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Tonight on SmackDown: it's the eve of the Hell in a Cell PPV, and all the top players will be in action against their secondary/non-PPV
rivals... the main event will be another go-round between Christian and Randy Orton, who've had a nice series of matches dating back to May...
meantime, the night's other "anchor" match will pit Christian's current #1 foe, Sheamus, against IC Champ Cody Rhodes (with the title on the
line)... and World Champ Mark Henry will get a minor work-out against the [redacted] Khali in a battle of the giant oafs...
An intriguing opening bout will put Vickie Guerrero's stable (Dolph Ziggler/Jack Swagger) to the test, as they face Air Boom in a non-title
match.... Sin Cara will compete against Heath Slater, and afterwards, will be challenged to a PPV match by Sin Cara... Kelly Kelly will take on
Natalya, while her PPV challenger Beth Phoenix sits in on commentary... in a development that would have been unthinkable a month or two ago, Zack
Ryder will be "in action" (80s Saturday morning euphemism for a squash match)... Johnny Ace will be milling around backstage, trying to quash any
insubordination that may or may not be being fomented by David Otunga, Esq., and Triple H will be keeping tabs on Johnny's progress....
It actually sounds like a decent enough show, especially on the in-ring/rasslin's side of things, but alas, OO must admit that CC Sabathia vs.
Justin Verlander sounds like an even better way to spend my evening... I'll actually be relying on the youtubes to get me caught up on SD,
because while I'm watching the Yankees game, my DVR's other tuner will be pre-occupied with something else pretty awesome: if you're in
a region where Fox Sports Ohio is available, you'll want to join me in recording "4192," which isn't just a documentary about Pete Rose,
it's a documentary about Pete Rose with music provided by Bob "Guided by Voices" Pollard... I'm fully expecting that to rule the
universe....
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Final Score:
Mother Nature 1
The Rick 0
Seriously disappointed they gave away the RKO last night, I would rather this be the one time they leave doubt in the fans mind.
Glad they made Sin Cara Dos change colour scheme but I still maintain the match would have been better with Daniel Bryan, PS where was he?
I kinda like the slow build of the Ortunga Legal Force and I'm seriously impressed they didn't go down the Eric Bischoff esq Cody loses the
title & gets it back through legal means after the "under protest" line.
quote:
Originally posted by diablo_dor
Seriously disappointed they gave away the RKO last night, I would rather this be the one time they leave doubt in the fans mind.
Yes, too bad they gave away the "can Orton RKO Henry" angle, considering that Orton had never RKOd Henry before and there's a logical reason why
he wouldn't be able to. Oh wait, he's RKOd Henry multiple times, this year, because there's no logical reason why Henry would be harder
to RKO than anyone else.
Otunga's lawyer outfit is hysterical.
The Sin Cara promo would have been better if he could speak English. And how do we know that's the b?ad one? And if it is, why was the good one
using his swanton bomb
quote:
Originally posted by theflammablemanimal
Yes, too bad they gave away the "can Orton RKO Henry" angle, considering that Orton had never RKOd Henry before and there's a logical reason why he wouldn't be able to. Oh wait, he's RKOd Henry multiple times, this year, because there's no logical reason why Henry would be harder to RKO than anyone else.
quote:If I had to guess, main eventing Superstars with Wade Barrett.
Glad they made Sin Cara Dos change colour scheme but I still maintain the match would have been better with Daniel Bryan, PS where was he?
quote:I think it's the "no kneepads" thing that throws people off. I think it works for Cody. Current gimmick-aside, the dude gives off this "old school"-vibe for me: his non-usage of elbowpads and kneepads, his intrinsic knowledge of what to do in the ring, his fluid movement and transitions, etc.
Though I still think (Cody Rhodes) needs to switch to tights, as the hooded jacket/short trunks look just doesn't work.
quote:Yeah. The bowtie and short-sleeved polo shirt makes him look like a waiter instead of a lawyer.
Otunga's lawyer outfit is hysterical.
quote:I kinda like the other one selling his anger/resentment just through ominous finger pointing. CMP's right, though. The one with the blonde hair sticking out the back of the mask is the real/original/face Sin Cara, so that was the face Sin Cara against Heath Slater. The Swanton works as a finisher for Sin Cara, but Hunico did it more beautifully last week.
The Sin Cara promo would have been better if he could speak English. And how do we know that's the b?ad one? And if it is, why was the good one using his swanton bomb
Goon, remember when WWE was killing Christian's push by having him lose to Orton a dozen times in a row? Well, back then, a whole 4 or 5 months
ago, Henry was a jobber and was constantly RKOd by Orton. I'm pretty sure Orton beat him clean with an RKO, and heck, Christian might have even
given him an Unprettier. And before Christian was fully heel, there was a triple threat #1 contender match between Christian, Sheamus and Henry where
Orton ran in and RKOd Henry.
I think Kelly Kelly was being raped by the stupidity of that angle. It's been exactly the same for three months except now Beth has no reason to
say Kelly is unworthy when Kelly has beaten her twice.
quote:
Originally posted by theflammablemanimal
Yes, too bad they gave away the "can Orton RKO Henry" angle, considering that Orton had never RKOd Henry before and there's a logical reason why he wouldn't be able to. Oh wait, he's RKOd Henry multiple times, this year, because there's no logical reason why Henry would be harder to RKO than anyone else.
I get that it doesn't have to be true, but I hate stories where they just ignore the last and assume we've all forgotten everything that
happened months ago.
More importantly, I don't think it's a good story that would sell ppvs. Who would tune in just to see if Orton can hit an RKO? Plus, this is
a HITC match. It shouldn't need that extra sell. And, with the wrestling logic that almost anyone knows, Orton standing over Henry at the end of
the show makes it more likely that Henry wins, which is the opposite of expectations. If they had gone into this match with any kind of "Orton
can't win/hit an RKO", it would practically guarantee an Orton win.
[Edited on 10-2-2011 by theflammablemanimal]
Firstly an admission, I'm not buying the PPV
I don't think they are worth the money, especially when we got Night of Champions for free a couple of weeks ago & the idea should be that Hell
in the Cell is the end of a feud not just because they couldn't think of a name for a PPV.
ESPECIALLY in the pg era.
My desire is for a story that makes sense, plays off the history we all know and builds to a logical conclusion.
This, Mark Henry won the world title dominantly last PPV a story that referenced the last 15 years and his under achieving career & used the
frustration to actually fuel his "Hall of Pain" run is an interesting story & makes people WANT to see him finally lose.
The issue is that it made Randy look human for the first time since the Foley feud and from some reason that is not allowed to happen and therefore
the closing moments of the last two Smackdowns has been Randy standing tall.
Even the whole, he looks weak before the PPV means he wins at it is not something they even need to worry about right now, they have built a new world
champ as a legitimate threat for the first time in how long (exception the first 2 weeks of ADR after that it went to shit) why not let he run wild
over the roster before the inevitable humbling?
I just loved the visual of a 215 lb. man (estimated) grabbing a 400 lb. man (estimated) by the head and taking him down and, therefore, knocking him
out.
Gotta love wrestling!
I think a 400 pound man would have a hard time supporting 215 pounds by their neck, especially if he was already bent over and if he was taken by surprise.