Rumor Crap 2016, Pt. 3
OORick - 7-16-2016 at 07:31 AM

Dammit, people, once we hit 1000 posts, we start a new one, in deference to the poor, weak, rickety server upon which OO is housed!

When last you spoke on the Rumor Thread, these were the issues:

* Brock Lesnar sucks and his matches suck more, because he only has one move of doom.

* Brock Lesnar may be in trouble after a drug violation (this now has its own thread).

* Cody Rhodes in ROH is happening soon.

* A lot of WWE Alumni are expected to show up and (even if only briefly) repopulate the rosters after the draft.... Tajiri and Rhyno are already on part time contracts, and MVP is rumored. OO really hopes that those Carlito rumors are true! Longshots would be the likes of Morrison and Rey from LU (LU has ardent fans, but less than solid financial grounding, and might give up Rey so that they have more funds to do their third season filming the right way), and maybe, just maybe one major surprise like Angle or something.

* And probably other things, too.....



Rick


First 9 - 7-16-2016 at 08:23 AM

According to Meltzer, Cena is booked for only six house shows until November. Those being international shows and a MSG weekend.

It's official, the Cena era is over. He's a part timer like Taker and HBK were 7 years ago. With the Brand Split coming up, he could even be the new Undertaker as SD's titan who overshadows even the top guys just like Taker did when Cena and Batista became top guys.

Also this really opens up the chance for Ambrose/Rollins/Styles to become the top guy by becoming the face of SD while Reigns keeps tanking on RAW.

[Edited on 7-16-2016 by First 9]


TonyTH - 7-17-2016 at 10:04 PM

Yeah, I'm kinda bummed out, because after his US title reign, I really came to like the dude. I never disliked him outright, but I really gained a lot of respect for him after that. But hell, it;s been a hell of a run, so I'm glad for his sake he's slowing down and pursuing other things. I'm sure he'll be around forever anyway from the way he talks. Even if it gets widdled down to Mania in 4-5 years or something.


Gobshite - 7-17-2016 at 10:56 PM

I think he'll still be a regular on TV, so for the majority of fans it won't make any difference.


First 9 - 7-17-2016 at 11:35 PM

Per WWE.com, this is how the draft will work.

-Raw has the first overall pick
-Since SmackDown Live is a two-hour show and Raw is three hours, for every two picks SmackDown Live receives, Raw will receive three picks
-Tag teams count as one pick unless a Commissioner/General Manager specifically only wants one member of the team​
-Six draft picks will be made off the NXT roster​

Interesting notes:
-Brock Lesnar is eligible for drafting and thus could be limited to one brand moving forward.
-The Wyatt Faimly is not protected under the tag team rules so we might see them split
-No mention of drafting non-wrestlers.

I can see the obvious advantage RAW has in numbers being mixed into Steph's rivalry with Shane, so we'll get Steph bragging how she absolutely has the advantage in quantity only for Shane to make a bombshell of a final draft pick.


Matte - 7-17-2016 at 11:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by First 9
-Tag teams count as one pick unless a Commissioner/General Manager specifically only wants one member of the team

That seems like a decent way to bury the other guy. Clearly making a point to say that one member of the team is good and the other member is not. I would assume taking a team with one pick forfeits the following pick, otherwise there wouldn't be a point in taking half a tag team when you could just grab them both. Doesn't mention that, though.
quote:
-Six draft picks will be made off the NXT roster

Nice.


williamssl - 7-17-2016 at 11:55 PM

{moved and deleted stuff went here}

EDIT: Can someone move this to the WWE Draft thread since there is already a thread about it, it's big, and it's news?



EDIT 2: First 9 reposted in the Draft thread and I moved my comments over there.

[Edited on 7-18-2016 by williamssl]


CCharger - 7-19-2016 at 03:41 PM

* The Torch is reporting that Gran Metalik and Ibushi from the CWC have signed full time deals with WWE. Expect more cruiserweight signings as they look to fill out the division.

* Big Show vs. Shaquille O'Neal at Wrestlemania is a thing that is happening.

* Things are extremely tense on the writing team for WWE because Vince is doing everything regarding the brand split week to week on the fly rather than planning things out well in advance. Even his decision for the brand split was made rather quickly with no real reason given.

[Edited on 7-19-2016 by CCharger]

[Edited on 7-19-2016 by CCharger]


Count Zero - 7-19-2016 at 08:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
* Things are extremely tense on the writing team for WWE because Vince is doing everything regarding the brand split week to week on the fly rather than planning things out well in advance. Even his decision for the brand split was made rather quickly with no real reason given.

If this is true, it makes an ass-load of sense out of the product they have been presenting.


DKBroiler - 7-19-2016 at 09:23 PM

Shaq vs Big Show makes me happy.

Now we just need that Ziggler vs Jackman match.

I love writing things that sound sarcastic but are actually things I want, even though they sound like trolling but aren't.


Sam Is Neat - 7-20-2016 at 07:29 AM

Apparently Simon Gotch got into a legit fight in catering with Sin Cara at Smackdown tonight.

For whatever reason, I feel like this will come back to fuck Sin Cara in the ass, more than Simon Gotch.


CM Crunk - 7-20-2016 at 07:34 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Sam Is Neat
Apparently Simon Gotch got into a legit fight in catering with Sin Cara at Smackdown tonight.

For whatever reason, I feel like this will come back to fuck Sin Cara in the ass, more than Simon Gotch.


Not that I wish any ill will towards him, but I agree. After all, this isn't the first dust-up that Sin Cara/Hunico has been involved in backstage. Sounds to me like he's got a bit of a temper, because Gotch seems like an all around sweetheart.

And I mean that in the manliest of manly ways possible.


punkerhardcore - 7-20-2016 at 07:48 AM

But is he The World's Sweetest Man? No. No he isn't.

Maybe all that pomade grease Gotch uses has soaked through his scalp and into his brain, giving him some weird form of CTE.


ThePunisher - 7-20-2016 at 02:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by OORick
* Cody Rhodes in ROH is happening soon.


It's official now.


CCharger - 7-20-2016 at 05:02 PM

* The substance that Lesnar tested positive for was clomiphene which is used by steroid users at the end of their cycle to help restore the natural production of testosterone.

* The Social Outcasts are done as a stable

* Putting Paige and ADR on two different shows was allegedly a deliberate attempt by managment to break them up


Cherokee Jack - 7-20-2016 at 05:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
* The substance that Lesnar tested positive for was clomiphene which is used by steroid users at the end of their cycle to help restore the natural production of testosterone.
Interestingly enough, also the same substance that Jon Jones got popped for, forcing him off that same show.

quote:
* The Social Outcasts are done as a stable
If this means that they're going to actually try to do something interesting with the guys involved, cool. If not, it's just another example of them killing off an act for committing the cardinal sin of getting over more than intended.

quote:
* Putting Paige and ADR on two different shows was allegedly a deliberate attempt by managment to break them up
Kinda shitty I guess, if the relationship is really causing problems then maybe just sit them down and talk to them like adults? If anything this seems to make WWE the overprotective father who'll just drive those crazy kids closer together!


punkerhardcore - 7-20-2016 at 05:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Cherokee Jack
If this means that they're going to actually try to do something interesting with the guys involved, cool. If not, it's just another example of them killing off an act for committing the cardinal sin of getting over more than intended.


I think we all know which of the two it is.


salmonjunkie - 7-20-2016 at 08:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CM Crunk
Not that I wish any ill will towards him, but I agree. After all, this isn't the first dust-up that Sin Cara/Hunico has been involved in backstage. Sounds to me like he's got a bit of a temper, because Gotch seems like an all around sweetheart.



I haven't heard this about Sin Cara. What's the scoop?


janerd75 - 7-20-2016 at 08:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by salmonjunkie
quote:
Originally posted by CM Crunk
Not that I wish any ill will towards him, but I agree. After all, this isn't the first dust-up that Sin Cara/Hunico has been involved in backstage. Sounds to me like he's got a bit of a temper, because Gotch seems like an all around sweetheart.



I haven't heard this about Sin Cara. What's the scoop?


http://thebiglead.com/2016/07/20/wwes-sin-cara-has-now-reportedly-been-in-multiple-backstage-fights/


Count Zero - 7-20-2016 at 08:30 PM

Is Sin Cara going to be the modern-day Haku?


salmonjunkie - 7-20-2016 at 08:30 PM

Looks like that other fight was Sheamus being a bully and Sin Cara defending himself.


janerd75 - 7-20-2016 at 08:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by salmonjunkie
Looks like that other fight was Sheamus being a bully and Sin Cara defending himself.


If accurate, yeah that would be a shitty thing for the big fella to do. Though I do love me some backstage stories where the smaller guy takes out the supposedly intimidating bigger guy, like Jericho did with Goldbrick.

Dunno, but all this seems like a hearsay fest and/or generalized locker room scuffle stuff.


denverpunk - 7-20-2016 at 09:54 PM

That's not the first story I've heard of a smaller guy taking out Sheamus. I remember reading back in the day that Yoshi Tatsu smacked him around a little, too. Who knows if it's true.

Whether Hunico was the instigator or not, I don't see much of a future for him in WWE. Sin Cara has become an albatross of a gimmick since Mistico fucked it up so badly.

[Edited on 7-20-2016 by denverpunk]


Matte - 7-20-2016 at 11:25 PM

So this is pretty funny. From WWE.com.

quote:
After Tuesday night�s SmackDown Live, the WWE Universe watched helplessly as the lights quite literally went out on Heath Slater.

The Social Outcast member more than lived up to his former group�s moniker when he found himself sitting alone in the dark, the only Superstar not chosen during the WWE Draft. And though the awkward moment proved painful to watch and may have brought lesser men to their knees, the rejection seems only to have added fuel to the redheaded rocker�s fire.

�Guess who is the Hottest Free Agent� Yeah!!!! Me!!!� Slater tweeted, moments after SmackDown Live went off the air. And though his assessment may be overly optimistic � or arguably delusional � perhaps he has a point. After all, Slater is also a Slammy Award winner, a three-time WWE Tag Team Champion and the man who has defeated the likes of Seth Rollins, The Great Khali and Dolph ZIggler.

Any independent promotion with an ear to the ground knows Slater would be a respectable acquisition. Rumors have even surfaced that sports-entertainment�s newest free agent has already been in talks with EVOLVE Wrestling�s Gabe Sapolsky and has reached out to William Regal regarding promotions in the United Kingdom.

If Slater does decide to hang up his boots, however, it may well be time for his close-up. With a role in the upcoming film The Marine 5: Battleground and as host of WWE Game Night on WWE.com, the burgeoning actor appears to have caught the bug. If so, Slater finds himself uniquely poised to follow The Rock and John Cena as the newest WWE Superstar to conquer Hollywood.

And for those who have clamored to hear him fulfill his destiny as a front-man in a rock-n-roll outfit, don�t unplug you�re headphones just yet. With time now on his side, The One Man (Southern) Rock Band may soon be spending days laying down tracks in an effort to rock your face off before long.

Regardless of what path his journey may take, whether in the ring, on a movie set or in a recording studio, Heath Slater isn�t about to rest on his questionable laurels. To paraphrase rocker Neil Young, it�s better to burn out than to fade away � bay-bay!


[Edited on 7-20-2016 by Matte]


CM Crunk - 7-20-2016 at 11:32 PM

ONE MAN BRAND BABAY!!!!!


GodEatGod - 7-21-2016 at 12:14 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CM Crunk
ONE MAN BRAND BABAY!!!!!


Post of the Year nominee. I legitimately laughed out loud.


Count Zero - 7-21-2016 at 01:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by GodEatGod
quote:
Originally posted by CM Crunk
ONE MAN BRAND BABAY!!!!!


Post of the Year nominee. I legitimately laughed out loud.
Totally seconded. In fact, that was such a spot-on Heath Slater imitation that I think Crunk ought to form the Social OOutcasts? Can Janerd be Bo Dallas?


CM Crunk - 7-21-2016 at 02:10 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Count Zero
quote:
Originally posted by GodEatGod
quote:
Originally posted by CM Crunk
ONE MAN BRAND BABAY!!!!!


Post of the Year nominee. I legitimately laughed out loud.
Totally seconded. In fact, that was such a spot-on Heath Slater imitation that I think Crunk ought to form the Social OOutcasts? Can Janerd be Bo Dallas?


Not a bad ideer there Count. Janerd is a font of quixotic positivity and Gape Vigoda pictures. Is this your roundabout way of campaigning for the Axel spot?

Speaking of Bo, I won't be happy unless they paired him up with Tamina and Nia Jax to be an SJW themed mini-stable. Just slap a fedora on Bo and list their tumblr accounts under their names instead of their Twitter handles.


Slick - 7-21-2016 at 02:37 PM

Just read that supposedly the drug Roman Reigns got popped for was Adderall.


royberto - 7-21-2016 at 03:20 PM

Nikki Bella has been cleared by doctors and will begin training at the Performance Center:

http://411mania.com/wrestling/nikki-bella-gets-good-news-teases-in-ring-return/

I'm glad that she is able to continue her career and not have it taken away from her. Hopefully she will stay healthy and be able to go out on her own terms when the time is right.


denverpunk - 7-21-2016 at 03:25 PM

Word has it that Cesaro's comments after last week's draft was a shoot. He wanted to be on Smackdown with Daniel Bryan, and when drafted to RAW, he said that he hoped the focus would be on the wrestlers there, and not Stephanie and Mick Foley.


royberto - 7-21-2016 at 03:26 PM

This is why not telling your talent beforehand that they are being drafted is sometimes a good thing. Nia Jax reacts to being drafted and becomes emotional:



Just goes to show you there is some reality to this scripted world.

[Edited on 7-21-2016 by royberto]


CCharger - 7-21-2016 at 10:36 PM

* WWE have signed Rhyno and Curt Hawkins to full time deals to help fill out the roster

* Word is that Daniel Bryans was presented with the opportunity to be the GM of Smackdown opposing Shane and Steph on RAW, but declined because he was not mentally ready to be around wrestling full time again. Vince approached him again a few weeks later and Bryan agreed and was shoehorned into the spot.

[Edited on 7-22-2016 by CCharger]


Count Zero - 7-22-2016 at 12:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CM Crunk

Not a bad ideer there Count. Janerd is a font of quixotic positivity and Gape Vigoda pictures. Is this your roundabout way of campaigning for the Axel spot?
I'm probably not wild enough to be Adam Rose, so I guess I would have to say YIIIIII! YIII! YII!!! YI!!!YIIIII!!! *chopping hand-motion*


CM Crunk - 7-22-2016 at 12:30 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Count Zero
quote:
Originally posted by CM Crunk

Not a bad ideer there Count. Janerd is a font of quixotic positivity and Gape Vigoda pictures. Is this your roundabout way of campaigning for the Axel spot?
I'm probably not wild enough to be Adam Rose, so I guess I would have to say YIIIIII! YIII! YII!!! YI!!!YIIIII!!! *chopping hand-motion*


Pads a lock for our Radical Mongoose, right?


Count Zero - 7-22-2016 at 12:34 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CM Crunk

Pads a lock for our Radical Mongoose, right?
In hindsight, I should've realized that was the obvious choice. YIII! YII!!!!


Paddlefoot - 7-22-2016 at 01:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CM Crunk
Speaking of Bo, I won't be happy unless they paired him up with Tamina and Nia Jax to be an SJW themed mini-stable. Just slap a fedora on Bo and list their tumblr accounts under their names instead of their Twitter handles.


*Nia and Tamina accompany Bo to the ring, stopping in front of the announcer's desk to yell something about JBL's cowboy hat being a "microaggression".

*Bo rolls up into a small ball like an armadillo in the middle of the ring*
What the hell kind of move from Bo was that, Mauro?
He calls it The Safe Space, John.


Paddlefoot - 7-22-2016 at 01:24 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Count Zero
quote:
Originally posted by CM Crunk

Pads a lock for our Radical Mongoose, right?
In hindsight, I should've realized that was the obvious choice. YIII! YII!!!!



Flash - 7-22-2016 at 02:08 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
* Putting Paige and ADR on two different shows was allegedly a deliberate attempt by managment to break them up


Well, either they succeeded in breaking them up, as apparently Paige has deleted just about every quote about, or picture of ADR from her instagram, or this rumour got it backwards and they broke up and the WWE put them on separate shows to keep the peace.

I feel like I've now sunk to a new low... gossiping about wrestlers love lives


janerd75 - 7-22-2016 at 02:20 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Flash
quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
* Putting Paige and ADR on two different shows was allegedly a deliberate attempt by managment to break them up


Well, either they succeeded in breaking them up, as apparently Paige has deleted just about every quote about, or picture of ADR from her instagram, or this rumour got it backwards and they broke up and the WWE put them on separate shows to keep the peace.

I feel like I've now sunk to a new low... gossiping about wrestlers love lives


I see your sunk to a new low and raise, er, lower, you mine... *shrugs*

ETA: Spoiler alert, ees ah teedie, Se�or.

[Edited on 7-22-2016 by janerd75]


Paddlefoot - 7-22-2016 at 02:50 AM

Add #dicks out for harambe to your avatar.


janerd75 - 7-22-2016 at 03:35 AM

Holy shit that's really a thing? Dunno, that av is getting pretty wild already without adding gorilla dicks to it though. Maybe squeeze Milo in there somehow.


Paddlefoot - 7-22-2016 at 03:37 AM

Gotta go with Danny on this one.


janerd75 - 7-22-2016 at 04:03 AM

So we don't piss off the nOOrmals...

http://www.cagesideseats.com/2016/7/21/12241080/roman-reigns-wwe-suspension-ends-adderall-substance-tested-positive

Unlike Bark Lobster, Adderal (if that's what it was) doesn't seem like such a big deal. Heavy schedule, lots of travel, whatevs. It wasn't Bolivian Marching Powder, so at least his heart won't asplode.




#DicksOut4Royberto


TonyTH - 7-22-2016 at 11:40 AM

Adderall isn't that hard to chant either. Poor Bastard.


CCharger - 7-22-2016 at 01:38 PM

* The rumored plan is to have Rollins pin Ambrose for the belt at Battleground and then feud with Reigns, while Ambrose is moved back down to the upper mid-card.

* Rumors are that the fight between Gotch and Sin Cara was a total ass-kicking with WrestleZone calling it a "one-sided destruction" on the part of Sin Cara. Reportedly, the two were standing in line at catering when Gotch made some type of remark about Mexicans that Hunico was offended by and beat Gotch's ass for it. There is more heat on Gotch for the incident as the WWE is trying to get a hold on the anti-Hispanic, anti-immigrant talk that has been commmon in WWE lockerrooms for years.

* As WWE tries to bolster its roster numbers, some names that have been offered deals are Cedric Alexander, Tozawa, and Tajiri.

[Edited on 7-22-2016 by CCharger]


Slade - 7-22-2016 at 03:13 PM

quote:
Posted by CCharger
* The rumored plan is to have Rollins pin Ambrose for the belt at Battleground and then feud with Rollins, while Ambrose is moved back down to the upper mid-card.


Rollins vs. Rollins at Summerslam! Sweet!


CCharger - 7-22-2016 at 03:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Slade
quote:
Posted by CCharger
* The rumored plan is to have Rollins pin Ambrose for the belt at Battleground and then feud with Rollins, while Ambrose is moved back down to the upper mid-card.


Rollins vs. Rollins at Summerslam! Sweet!


Ha! Edited.


gobbledygooker - 7-22-2016 at 08:48 PM

If they do indeed go with Rollins-Reigns going forward, between the suspension and, you know, the fact he's been booed out of the building the past two years, they've GOTTA do the double-turn don't they!?

Don't they...?

Don't.........they?


merc - 7-22-2016 at 09:32 PM

Recently reported on the OO forums:

Slade is responsible for all the crappy booking done by Vince in the WWE.


Slade - 7-22-2016 at 11:06 PM

You're welcome!


Paddlefoot - 7-22-2016 at 11:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Flash
quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
* Putting Paige and ADR on two different shows was allegedly a deliberate attempt by managment to break them up


Well, either they succeeded in breaking them up, as apparently Paige has deleted just about every quote about, or picture of ADR from her instagram, or this rumour got it backwards and they broke up and the WWE put them on separate shows to keep the peace.

I feel like I've now sunk to a new low... gossiping about wrestlers love lives


Apparently she put them all back up again and is saying it was some kind of technical error. The whole thing is probably a work for that Total Divas idiocy that she's unfortunately been downgraded to.


Paddlefoot - 7-23-2016 at 06:44 AM

ReiBOOOOOOO! returned today at an event. The crowd didn't eat him alive, if you can take the reaction from a house show to what it will be at Battleground and then on RAW.


merc - 7-23-2016 at 04:58 PM

ETFS. - Edited for stupidity.

[Edited on 7-23-2016 by merc]


Paddlefoot - 7-24-2016 at 10:08 PM

The dicks are still out, Steph.



[Edited on 7/24/2016 by Paddlefoot]


coxito - 7-24-2016 at 10:24 PM

A couple sites are reporting bayley as sasha's mystery partner.


Paddlefoot - 7-25-2016 at 06:28 PM

* word is that ADR won't be returning after his contract expires in October; Vince allegedly wants to keep him but he's one of the performers that HHH is apparently trying to low-ball on a contract renewal

Not sure how this affects Paige, if she'll remain with WWE herself or go all "stand by her man" the way AJ Lee did with Punk. I couldn't see either her or ADR in the respective RAW or SD locker-rooms at the end of the PPV last night, which is kind of a big thing as talent is always expected to show up backstage at shows even if they're not being used in-ring.


merc - 7-27-2016 at 03:01 AM

Could someone please post the link where an unknown dean Ambrose confronts mick foley at a fan event? I remember it, but YouTube isn't helping


janerd75 - 7-27-2016 at 03:13 AM

quote:
Originally posted by merc
Could someone please post the link where an unknown dean Ambrose confronts mick foley at a fan event? I remember it, but YouTube isn't helping


http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/_L1THoIpVUo


merc - 7-27-2016 at 03:23 AM

Thanks!

Beer on me


CCharger - 7-27-2016 at 05:25 PM

* Cageside Seats is reporting that Reigns' push as "a top guy" is over "for the time being". I don't even know how to take that.

* Bayley vs. Sasha is set to be a slow boil, long term feud that will culminate in a match between the two at Wrestlemania 33 in Orlando

* WWE and Kurt Angle are in the process of negotiating a deal to bring Angle back. The sticking point appears to be money as new HHH's tactic is to low ball performers on salary offers.

* Add Melina and Tommy Dreamer to the list of names possibly returning to fill out the roster