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Author: Subject: An Alternate History of the WWF.
JMD
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posted on 3-6-2008 at 10:10 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
An Alternate History of the WWF.

Just wanted to put a little plug here for a very entertaining project I've been following for over 2 years now.

It's a Counterfactual WWF, where the author re-books WWF history under the premise that Vince McMahon grew up as a huge fan of workrate rather than larger-than-life gimmicks. It's called "What if Steamboat beat Hogan?", and you can find his description of it here.

Definitely worth a read if you've got a couple of hours to kill some day, you'll find yourself hooked by the time you get to Wrestlemania II!

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posted on 4-25-2008 at 05:42 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
This was excellent JMD. Thanks for sharing. I spent many hours since you've posted this reading that blog. It was fantastic. I also made some comments following his post of WM XXIII. I'm Chris.





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posted on 4-26-2008 at 05:30 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I'm only a couple of entries into that, but its crazy awesome (if not highly unrealistic). I second the thanks for sharing and I'd strongly encourage everyone with a tolerance for fantasy booking to check that out from the beginning.

I mean, Steamboat and Dynamite Kid both have world championships by 1986! Its wrestling geek nirvana.

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posted on 5-1-2008 at 07:25 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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This whole thing is highly entertaining, but here's my first question. Even as much of a big fan I am of his, how do you justify Cactus Jack as one of the most important wrestlers in the history of the company? In this world Bret Hart is the top guy ever (living the gimmick), Owen, Hennig, Savage, & Shawn are right there behind Bret in WWF, and Benoit has 3 NWA titles to Flair's 5 with Benoit pretty much taking the top NWA spot with the first world title in 1996. In that super workrate geek universe, how does Cactus get over as THE top guy? I like him, too, but he just doesn't fit the bill. I'm willing to accept Austin right there at the top since he really could go (I think he could work, but just brawled the same match since that was his character. If anything, in the counterfactual, Austin would come in as the Ringmaster and the crowd would love it.)

If you want to argue it's because Mick could talk, then why not have World champ The Rock? And poor, poor HHH.

More than anything, I think this whole exercise proves once again how truly awful the storytelling is in wrestling. Sure, it's easier to tell stories knowing whose going to be great 5 (or 10 or 15) years in the future and that certainly allows for more foreshadowing and build up, but can't we just have a little continuity?

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posted on 5-1-2008 at 08:44 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I actually posed the same question to him. I don't get why Austin & Foley are treated so well and Triple H & Rock were not. To me Triple H and Rock are at least on par with Austin & Foley and many times better. I think Chris Jericho also got shortchanged a bit but with Angle and Benoit getting pushes somebody had to play in the midcard.





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posted on 5-2-2008 at 12:54 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
M-Kid, I think over the next year Jericho will become more prominent. Remember, the counter-factual universe is a year behind.

I think he was trying to prove a point with HHH and Rock, although to be honest, I only kinda disagree with Rock, because honestly HHH is a couple of breaks away from being Bob Holly. I don't get the Austin push either; but Foley's character came right in from ECW in this universe and just did crazy ECW shit, and became a "hardcore legend" which is kind of what he was anyway. The point there is that he thinks Foley would have done that ANYWAY, with or without help. I can't really disagree.






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posted on 5-31-2010 at 12:52 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
This is awesome! (I'm only posting to move the thread up for people who haven't seen it)
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posted on 6-15-2010 at 02:25 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
After reading this some more (up to WMX7 almost), I'm thinking he pushes Foley so hard because there was no one else. At this time in WWE, the top guys were Austin (who he pushes), HHH/Rock (who he dislikes) and Taker.

And he also pushes Foley as a crazy hardcore guy, not a "wrestler." Also, even though Foley does so well for himself, he really winds up just being used to put over other guys.

EDIT:

Whoah, the Hardy/Edge feud is a little over the top.

[Edited on 6-29-2010 by theflammablemanimal]

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