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Florida Championship Wrestling
I watched a shit load of FCW today and here's a few minor things I learned which I feel like saying. Feel free to ignore the thread.
- Tyler Recks wrestled one match that made me thing he had more to show than he has in ECW. Not good or anything, but he was agile for his size,
pulled out a moonsault and some different stuff including a burning hammer (even if it was a little sloppy). Then I saw him wrestle a title match
designed to put him over and I take it all back. He sucks. And its good if WWE doesn't let him use the burning hammer because he'll
probably kill someone.
- Lance Hoyt is in FCW and the Florida fans chant "Tramp Stamp" at him.
- Rosa Mendes and Alicia Fox wrestled a match that included one of the worst series of moves I've ever seen. And I say this with Jenna/Sharmell
still fresh in my mind. Those two are horrible.
- Abraham Washington doesn't have much more to show. Just as we know from ECW he's got some clear charisma and mic skills but just like
in ECW he rambles on in a boring fashion leaving you wondering where you were to be entertained. No bad talk show jokes but instead an over the top,
borderline racist, sometimes uncomfortable Obama impersonation that mayb be hilarious for Glenn Beck fans but does nothing for me. If he were allowed
to have a gimmick that wasn't retarded he might be good but he still has a tendency to just ramble and stumble over lines.
- DJ Gabriel is alive and he's no longer a DJ. Which struck me as odd because I thought his first name was "DJ" until he said "I had a lot
of fun as a DJ, but that's done."
- GM Abraham Washington booked a REVERSE BATTLE ROYALE!!!!!
- FCW has Joe Hennig, Brett Dibiase, and TWO Rotundos. And none of them stand out at all. Except Hennig who stands out because he's going bald
badly and has a just embarrassing comb over (or just hair that's so thin it looks like a comb over). I watched an interview with him and I just
couldn't stop staring at his head and wondering what was going on with it. Someone has to talk to him.
- Dusty Rhodes retains all his awesome announcing glory.
That's all. Ignore me.
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quote:
Originally posted by LuckyLopez
- FCW has Joe Hennig, Brett Dibiase, and TWO Rotundos. And none of them stand out at all. Except Hennig who stands out because he's going bald
badly and has a just embarrassing comb over (or just hair that's so thin it looks like a comb over). I watched an interview with him and I just
couldn't stop staring at his head and wondering what was going on with it. Someone has to talk to him.
[Edited on 7-26-2009 by LuckyLopez]
That was quite amusing. If it's at all possible, could you post an image?
It's sad to read that there are little to no prospects brewing in Florida. In OVW you could see good things here and there. The only FCW match
I have seen was that entertaining 15 minute match Kaval had when he just reported to FCW. I can't remember his opponent.
I went to the FCW website and was disappointed to see that the majority of the roster looks the same. They all used the Orton template.
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Psycho Penguin
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There's always Drew McIntyre.
Kaval's opponent was Tyson Kidd.
I'm only on May 4th's episode, so I have some catching up to do.
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LuckyLopez
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McIntyre was one of the few mild standouts but he wasn't really anything to talk about from what I saw. Then again he wrestled Tyler Reks and
then in a 6 man so they weren't exactly showcases.
I don't want to suggest that no one could be a star or anything. There's at least a few guys who seemed to be more than future DJ
Gabriels and Ricky Ortiz's (the two of whom teamed up for an awesome pairing!). But everyone seemed so remarkably green. And, I mean, I think
they ARE all green. There's not one guy of the bunch I know from anything other than FCW. McIntyre's been around WWE's
developments for awhile as has Eric Escobar and they seem about as full a package as there was. And then I recognize names, largely because of their
daddies. But with the Harts and Sheamus and Low Ki not there its just a bunch of nobodies. And not that there's anything necessarily wrong
with that but its so clear that WWE grabs these raw kids with the look they like or a name they like and start them from damn near scratch. While the
more interesting guys are almost always ones who have spent a couple of years in the business and I've seen them here or there, if not seen them
as outright stars. Considering that WWE's biggest development success stories have largely been seasoned veterans, indie stars, collegiate
athletes, and the like its sort of crazy that FCW looks so generic and green in general.
quote:
Originally posted by CheMateo
That was quite amusing. If it's at all possible, could you post an image?
Sure, why not?
Here's his big return from injury that was my first look and had me kind of curious that something was off.
And here's the interview that I just couldn't hear.
Here he is coming out to wrestle, which amused me just because I'm a camera/film guy. He was shot from a LOT of low camera angles that seemed
different from the show's general approach. Probably something most people wouldn't notice but which struck me, and I couldn't help
but think that they were doing it specifically to avoid his scalp.
Here's some before the match where he has his hair all wet and slicked, a very strange choice with bad results. I wish I could have grabbed
some caps of him from the back because you're just staring at his scalp through the hair but the image wasn't good enough to show it.
And finally its him after he wrestled the match when all the oil or water or whatever he put in his hair has dried up and his hair is mussed up from
the action. Which struck me because it was the only time I saw him where he didn't remind me of a junior high gym teacher who watches the boys
when they take a shower.
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Shaggy
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Justin Angel could wrestle on wwe programming right now, but he's a cruiserweight. South African wrestler.
Kawal/Low-Ki is out injured but would be ready though probably won't last long in the wwe given he won't like playing job boy.
Lance Hoyt's FCW name is "Vance Archer". I smell Braden Walker with this guy.
Dos Caras and El Sicodelico will both be called up sooner than later. Both are Mexican wrestlers with some size to them. El Sicodelico needs work on
his look. Dos Caras lost of Mirko Crocop over in Pride when he tried his luck in MMA (it didn't last long)-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Biz3sfhqWY
Chris The Bambi Killer has extensive international experience and wrestles as Krystof Herzog in FCW.
Trent Baretta and Calen Croft could be wwe's rip-off answer to Alex Shelley and Chris Sabin (Baretta being Shelley). Baretta is Plasma from the
New York indie scene and Croft was formally Chis Cage when he wrestled in OVW under developmental and was close to a call-up (teaming with Miz) but
when down on Spring Break to shoot some promos there was an incident and he was fired.
Mr. Tarver has the look, ring presence and is solid on the mic and I like his finisher for it's simplicity.
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CheMateo
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quote:
And here's the interview that I just couldn't hear.
That one is oddly funny. I'm going to use it as an avatar one day.
quote:
Dos Caras and El Sicodelico will both be called up sooner than later. Both are Mexican wrestlers with some size to them. El Sicodelico needs
work on his look. Dos Caras lost of Mirko Crocop over in Pride when he tried his luck in MMA
I was surprised to see El Sicodelico listed. I am
excited at seeing Dos Caras. Although I was under the impression he was going to join one of the main rosters and skip developmental.
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Skip development? Ha! They have to unlearn him all those fancy lucha moves. Seriously, I can enjoy some lucha matches, but I can't stand when
there is literally a five minute sequences of "how many flips/spins/rotations can I do before eventually arm dragging you." That always bugs me
when Gail Kim or Rey do all this fancy springboard stuff only to look like they hurt themselves more from the bump because the person receiving the
arm drag looks like they took a front roll instead of front flip.
A ho fucks everybody. A bitch fucks everybody but you.
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LuckyLopez
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I was amazed to see that El Sicodelico was actually a luchadore and ACTUALLY the nephew of Mil Mascaras and Dos Caras to boot. Because when I saw him
wrestle all I could think was that he was some generic sucky white boy who they stuck in a mask and pretended was a luchadore. Because nothing he did
said "luchadore" let alone "good." But it was one match and it was against Mr. Tarver who I saw suck at least twice so who knows?
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Psycho Penguin
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I remember Caleb O Neal pulling off a sick finisher on the March 26 episode against a guy mocking Sweet Papi Sanchez. And he's from Baltimore. I
like him.
I gotta catch up on these shows.. maybe I'll watch some now.
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blackdragon
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Lucky, where are you watching FCW? Is it via torrent?
A ho fucks everybody. A bitch fucks everybody but you.
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Shaggy
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quote:
Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
I remember Caleb O Neal pulling off a sick finisher on the March 26 episode against a guy mocking Sweet Papi Sanchez. And he's from Baltimore. I
like him.
I gotta catch up on these shows.. maybe I'll watch some now.
I believe Caleb O'Neal was fired a while ago - getting a tattoo without prior approval (aka the Hurricane Helms rule) was the final straw.
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quote:
Originally posted by LuckyLopez
I was amazed to see that El Sicodelico was actually a luchadore and ACTUALLY the nephew of Mil Mascaras and Dos Caras to boot. Because when I saw him
wrestle all I could think was that he was some generic sucky white boy who they stuck in a mask and pretended was a luchadore. Because nothing he did
said "luchadore" let alone "good." But it was one match and it was against Mr. Tarver who I saw suck at least twice so who knows?
I saw that same match and got the sme vibe from Sicodelico, however assumed it must have been a bad night. It was reason why I said he needed to work
on his look. Wwe has been interested in Dos Caras Jr, and I wonder if they signed Sicodelico in order to get Dos signed on.
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quote:
Originally posted by Shaggy
quote:
Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
I remember Caleb O Neal pulling off a sick finisher on the March 26 episode against a guy mocking Sweet Papi Sanchez. And he's from Baltimore. I
like him.
I gotta catch up on these shows.. maybe I'll watch some now.
I believe Caleb O'Neal was fired a while ago - getting a tattoo without prior approval (aka the Hurricane Helms rule) was the final straw.
Damn.
I've been catching up and just typed a quick review of the last episode I watched.
FCW - 5/31/09
Justin Angel vs Kris Logan - These guys are the truth. Lots of crazy stuff you probably only see in ROH. Good match.
Dawson Alexander, that Hudson girl's fiance, makes his debut and beats the crap out of an impressive looking Troy Jackman.
An election between Abraham Washington and Fletcher Chase for the FCW GM position. Boring chants, and Washington challenges Steve Keirn to a match.
One of the 'agents'; of Washington tries to attack Keirn and Keirn puts him in a sleeper. SHEAMUS comes in and clears house of the agents.
Face turn? Big Sheamus chant. Bizarre, unless he just wanted a title shot from Keirn. They stare each other down.. Keirn extends his hand, and Sheamus
shakes it. Okay..
Alex Riley and Beverly vs Johnny Prime and Angela. I remember 2 weeks ago they had a brief picture of this match, then hyped a Riley/Prime match. This
is the feud that just won't end. It's like the FCW version of HHH/Orton, only Alex Riley is interesting and Prime is like jobber
enhancement talent. In FCW. The video package hyping the match was like 3 minutes long! Beverly is pretty cute and Riley has a cool theme song. Angela
pins Beverly, assuring this feud will never end.
Coming up next.. Fletcher Chase creates his match! (By the way, I would be remiss in pointing out that Fletcher Chase's theme is a complete
ripoff of Bad.) Drew McIntyre (still champ!) is on commentary, and the match is a 10 man battle royal with the winner facing McIntyre next week. How
is Washington gonna top that? All the competitors come out at once to the same theme song. Gotta love FCW. RICKY ORTIZ IS HERE. Why is he on TV still,
I have to ask again. LOL and Ortiz wins of course. Ortiz/McIntyre next week.
Washington calls Sheamus "Sheamus O Shancey" which made me chuckle. Sure enough, Washington makes a FCW tag title match.. Trent Baretta and Calen
Croft come out.. and he makes it a handicap match. Half of the tag champs Johnny Curtis is banned from the match. Barretta and Croft vs "The Bob
Marley Reject" Tyler Reks. This feud has been going on for a while and it's been fun. Reks looks pretty good here, but Croft and Baretta steal
a victory and are the new tag champs.
This show is a lot of fun to watch if you watch every week like I do. The commentary is always amusing.
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LuckyLopez
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So the thing with me being bored by WWE is that I seek out other wrestling and that leads me to FCW. FCW has a certain appeal despite it being
inferior to other indies, primarily because its not really an indy but instead is WWE's developmental and thus I know I'll see a lot of
these guys some day on WWE TV. That makes them kind of interesting a way that others aren't to see them grow and get insight on the next
generation of WWE superstar. So I just finished catching up on a few months of FCW and I felt like doing an overall review of the FCW roster. Once
again, feel free to ignore as its probably boring and useless but I felt like doing it, it only took me about half an hour, and I figured a few might
be interested for the same reason I am.
Not included in this bunch since he's not on the FCW roster nor has been on TV as he was only signed a few days ago.
Ricky Steamboat, Jr
He'd be 2nd on my list if I'd ever seen him wrestle, I'm such a mark. Word is he's very good for a prospect and his dad has
made him tour the world to learn his craft. In terms of real, honest to god legacy prospects I haven't heard this much buzz about anyone since
Harry Smith or maybe even further back to Teddy Hart. I am VERY excited to see this kid pop up in FCW.
So here's the guys on FCW's website's roster and my quick take on them, ordered based on how good/relevant I think they are.
http://www.fcwwrestling.info/talent.html
Kaval
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Motherfucking Low Ki. If you don't know, too bad. He's the man and go look him up on youtube. One of the founding fathers of ROH and a
former ROH World Champion, one of the pioneers of TNA's X Division and a former champ, and a member of one of the best tag teams of the 21st
century in TNA's Triple X. He's been on the shelf due to injury for awhile but is back and rumored to be a SD callup soon. If he gets
half a break he'll be awesome provided he doesn't do something stupid since he's a little self destructive. And he likes to stiff
the fuck out of people so don't let him near Taker. Also, he sounds like Barry White. Low Ki is awesome.
Joe Hennig
The son of Curt Hennig aka Mr. Perfect, he's a pretty solid wrestler and probably the best chance of a WWE star that I see in this bunch. A
little green like everyone in FCW not named Kaval, but probably as ready as anyone who WWE has called up since CM Punk. His biggest flaw to me was
his terrible male pattern baldness but apparently someone talked to him about it and he got a buzz cut. I no long laugh at him every time he tips his
head or the camera catches him from the back.
Mia Mancini
Known to Shimmer fans as Serena Deeb she's the "Queen of FCW" (which is like a championship, only its a tiara). She's got this really
silly mafia gimmick which hopefully won't translate to WWE. She's a very solid-to-good wrestler who would immediately be one of the best
in WWE today. She's booked as a big bruising heel in FCW but that's kind of necessary since everyone else is a tiny non-wrestler so
she's just the intimidating presence. In WWE she'd be more average sized and probably works more naturally as an upbeat face. Just for
kicks you should google pictures of Serena Deeb to see what she looked like before WWE because some plastic surgeon got a nice payday with her.
Justin Angel
Reigning FCW Champion he's a decent high flyer and billed as the only South African wrestler in the business. He's no Evan Bourne but
he's got a little flash to him and would stand out at least as well as Yoshi Tatsu has. He's got a bit of an accent and is pretty iffy on
the mic. He's... metro, I guess. Its a weird look that doesn't quite work for me but you can hear women SQUEAL so I guess it works for
its purposes. He comes out to Candice Michelle's theme music which is fucking HILARIOUS.
Bo and Duke Rotundo
 
Sons of Mike Rotundo aka I.R.S. they're the reigning FCW Tag Team Champions as of my FCW viewing. Duke's a big boy but Bo's pretty
non-descript. They're a solid Southern tag team that could probably have some success in the tag team world but I don't see a ton of
purpose for them in WWE unless WWE's grand plan with ECW is a brand of tag teams made up of 2nd and 3rd generations wrestlers. Which I'd
be all for and which you'll really understand soon enough.
Heath Slater
I like this dude. He's a solid wrestler if nothing to rave about, but he doesn't put me to sleep like most of FCW does. He's got a
slimy Southern charm that just kind works and enough character to get by. He's not a star as currently constructed but he feels like a prospect
to me, and one of the few not relying on his last name.
The Dudebusters - Caylen Croft, Trent Baretta, & Curt Hawkins (not pictured)
 
Croft and Baretta are in ECW and Hawkins was Zach Ryder's tag partner in the Edgeheads/Majors so these guys aren't strangers.
They're basically a bunch of Zach Ryders. None of them strike me as anything to talk about but clearly the character works for Ryder. I
actually think Hawkins does it BETTER because he's less over the top and more believable with his attire and music, but then again maybe
that's me just missing the appeal of the gimmick Either way, they've all already gotten their WWE card so saying they won't go
anywhere is probably silly, but none of them strike me as much. Croft however is Chris Cage who has been in WWE development long enough to form a
regular tag team with not just The Miz but fucking Nova/Simon Dean. But once upon a time I did think he was a decent wrestler.
Donny Marlow & Jimmy Uso
 
Uso is Jonathon Fatu, son of Rikishi making him (to the best of my knowledge) the first of the new generation of the legendary Anoa'i family and
grandson of Afa. Marlow is Tevita Fifita, son of Tonga Fifita, better known as Meng or Haku. That makes me instantly love him. The sons of
Headshrinkers and Islanders they call themselves "family" and form a sort of 21st century Samoan gimmick. Picture a traditional Samoan dance being
done to the sounds of beat boxing and while wearing stylish clothes. Its actually kinda cool but honestly its a gimmick I've wanted to see for
years. I've only seen a little of these guys and like most everyone else in FCW they look green, but with potential.
Brett Dibiase, Alberto Banderas, and Wes Brisco
  
None of these guys are remotely associated with each other but I grouped them together for a reason. Banderas is actually Dos Caras, Jr, son of the
legendary Dos Caras and nephew to the way more legendary Mil Mascaras. Brisco is the kid of the Stooge, not the NWA World Champion. And Dibiase is
obviously the brother of Ted Jr who had a brief moment with Legacy in helping Orton retain his gold. They're all here because they're all
green as anything and generic but they all kind of stand out because of their daddies and for that reason will be given more opportunity to succeed.
And honestly, I'll pay more attention and give them more chances to impress me because I too am a mark for legacies. If this had been a couple
of months ago the group would have included Bandera's cousin El Sicodelico Jr and there's another Dibiase brother just waiting to be
snatched up.
AJ Lee
Indy wrestler Miss April, she's an okish little wrestler for WWE. She's TINY but basically does what Kelly Kelly does only better.
She's also very cute so she would be a very viable Diva who kind of looks 15 for those pervs.
Eli Cottonwood with Aksana
 
He's like a cross between Abyss and Waylon Mercy. A big fucker who just left the sanitarium and clearly shouldn't have, he recites creepy
dialogue in a Southern accent and looks like he's going to rape your eye sockets. He's kinda not good in the ring but in that 7 fter way
and he's not Great Khali bad or anything. He could probably carry over his creepy as fuck thing to WWE but he doesn't really have any
kind of viable look. Aksana's into him and she's hot (in the right light) and that's all I got about her.
Courtney Taylor, Liviana, Savannah, Jenny Cash
   
Taylor is formerly Beverly Mullins, she's at least listed as an ECW backstage announcer although I have no idea how often she does it. Liviana
was the "candy girl" to Sweet Papi Sanchez which means she threw candy to fans. Now she's Abraham Washington's arm candy. Savannah is
Angela Fong who now seems to be doing ring announcing duties on ECW. Cash once did a weird gossip segment on FCW but now seems to fill in as ring
announcer when Savannah is up with ECW. They're all attractive ladies who sometimes wrestler badly and don't really seem to do much of
anything else of real value. So they're you're prototypical Divas.
Alex Riley
He's a jock. He's ok, but kinda generic. Was supposed to get a callup awhile back but didn't happen. I suspect it will eventually
and I guess he could work out and I don't hate him. But I have nothing to say about him.
The South Beach Boys - Darren Young & Percy Watson
 
I have absolutely no words to describe these guys. The FCW announcer once said "its like we've been transported to Harlem in the '70s"
and despite the fact that I have no idea what that means I think it might be the most accurate way to describe them. They dance around, say "You
know what I'm saying?" a lot, and call themselves the "Sexy Stud Star Stallionaires." I THINK they're gay but I'm not entirely
sure that's true. Really, I have no idea but whatever the act is I'm guessing it might work for some and will probably get a callup
unless they ARE gay and that stops it. They did nothing for me in the ring and are much more sports entertainers, it seems. And if you want to see
something really creepy take a close look at Young and tell me he doesn't look like John Cena in blackface and a wig.
Skip Sheffield
He's a big goofy Texan who wrestles like a big Texan bruiser. He behaves kinda deranged in but a face way, talking to himself in the ring and
spouting all kinds of nonsense. His catchphrase is "Yep, Yep, Yep!" which seems like it should suck but the crowd chants it. I have no idea if
that means he's got something or if it just speaks to how easily a small indie crowd will take to anyone. OVW crowds loved Ricky Ortiz.
Sweet Papi Sanchez
He was once a pudgy masked monster. Then he took the mask off and became a pudgy fun loving and colorful latino. Either way he's pretty sucky.
Dawson Alexander
His wife is famous and he was on a reality show. That's as deep as his gimmick gets and as worthwhile as he is to talk about. The funny thing
is that's probably enough to get him a promotion if anyone ever tells Vince it will get WWE talked about on E!, Entertainment Tonight, and
American Idol. Or get AI people to host RAW.
Johnny Curtis & Johnny Prime
 
They're not tag partners and I think one is a heel and one a face. But I seriously can't tell them apart they're so generic.
Gabriel
DJ Gabriel who you might know from ECW awhile back. He blows as much as he did then.
There's a few people I didn't talk about like Abraham Washington, Tyler Recks, and Rosa Mendes just because they've been in WWE long
enough that you can get a better impression of them there than from me. And there's a whole bunch of other guys on FCW's roster who I
said nothing about because I either have no idea who they are or saw them once and don't remember a damn thing about them.
[Edited on 12-18-2009 by LuckyLopez]
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punkerhardcore
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Good read, Lucky. I've never seen FCW but have always been interesting in learning more about the guys in the farm system, so thanks for this
post.
Two things--
1.
I wonder if Mike Rotundo knows that Greg Valentine fucked his wife 20+ years ago.
2. How the hell old is Rikishi to have a son who is old enough to now do this?
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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Rikishi's 44. Don't forget, this is the same dude who was a Headshrinker back before the New Generation. And before that they were the
Samoan Swat Team in WCW/NWA/Crockett/Whatever in the damn 80s. Fucker's been around forever. Not to mention his brothers are the
44-year-old Tongan Kid and Umaga who died at 36. I don't know how old his kids are (there's another one in the indies) and he had to have
had them in his early 20s, but nothing too scandalous to it. Just Rikishi being deceptively old because I think we kind of forget that giant ass
Rikishi was once this dude.
I just find the Anoa'i family so damn interesting, for some reason. Just to say something like "Rikishi is Umaga's brother" just feels
weird and cool to me for some reason.
Dusty Rhodes does commentary and he likes to allude to the possibility that Duke Rotundo's daddy is actually Barry Windham. Dusty Rhodes is
awesome. I find that especially funny since Windham is Duke's uncle and Dusty almost certainly knows that.
I find wrestling familes really interesting.
[Edited on 12-18-2009 by LuckyLopez]
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"And if you want to see something really creepy take a close look at Young and tell me he doesn't look like John Cena in blackface and a
wig."-Lucky
Hoe-Lee-She-It!
Opinions are like assholes,
everybody's got one.
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punkerhardcore
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You're right. I always forget how I was watching the Headshrinkers in the early 90s, which is almost twenty years ago(!) now. Fuck.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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LuckyLopez
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I think really looking at Rikishi's career is one of the things that makes me feel oldest as a wrestling fan. He's spent 10 years as
"Rikishi" and yet I can remember going back to him as the Sultan wrestling Rocky Miavia at Wrestlemania. And then I can remember him as "Make a
Difference" Fatu trying to get his Headshrinker partner Samu to stop doing drugs or something. Then I can remember him partnering with The Barbarian
who tried to teach him how to wear shoes. And then if I go far back enough I can remember a time when Rikishi didn't weigh 500 lbs and
didn't wear shoes and was a wild savage Samoan back before WWF had Attitude or even a New Generation.
And now I'm watching his kid wrestle.
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S Kid J E T S 48
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I barely know anything about the FCW generation down there now, so thanks Lucky, this was really informative.
I'm excited to see Low-Ki on WWE television. I never really saw him fight much in TNA, so all I've heard was hype...but I can't
imagine with what has been said that I won't enjoy him. The rumor was that he was to start very soon in a feud with Rey, and since he seems
small, that will probably be a good starting point and make him look like a badass.
I'll tell you, the second I read Son-of-Haku, I got excited too. That just seems like a really cool pairing. There should always be at least
one Samoan around the WWE at all times.
Finally...Sweet Papi Sanchez....should have kept the mask on. His picture makes me think he might be mildly retarded. I have no desire to ever see
him called up.
And thanks Lucky...there is nothing scarier than a Black Cena.
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DrBoz
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quote:
Originally posted by S Kid J E T S 48
And thanks Lucky...there is nothing scarier than a Black Cena.
Except for mabey a White Cena.
Seriously, most of those guys either look like gay porn stars or have gay porn star names. Especially that Skip Sheffield. I'm pretty sure I
saw him in a muscle worship video once.
"I guess my heaviest experience is gravity...keeps my feet down...it's like weighing me down...I can't get my arms up now...like my legs
fall...I'm falling down and I can't...it's making me heavier...I'm heavier...I can't move...Now I'm a dead dog in
water...I can't...I'm floating but I sink to the water...I'm a wet sandwich...wet with meat...I'm broken salami...tiny
mustaches are heavy...I'm falling...."
- Chester from Sifl and Olly
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LuckyLopez
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quote:
Originally posted by S Kid J E T S 48
There should always be at least one Samoan around the WWE at all times.
I think the trivia note I once saw was that when Umaga was fired between Between Afa, Sika, Samu, Rikishi, Tama/Tongan Kid, Yokozuna, Rosey, Umaga,
and Manu it was the first time in almost 30 years when Afa debuted that one of his kin wasn't on the WWE roster. And that's not even
counting the extending "family" of Peter Miavia, Rocky Johnson, The Rock, Jimmy Snuka, Deuce, Meng/Haku, Barbarian, and Gary Albright. And along
with Uso's brother in the indies I know Jimmy Snuka's daughter recently debuted in Afa's company.
And even though this sounds like a joke Samoa Joe might be a distant relative.
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Psycho Penguin
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I'm only on 10/18 episode, but what about the stable around Abraham.. there's Riley and a couple of big buys, Jackman and Cannon (?)
I think Alex Riley will be a star one day, same with Justin Angel.
Sweet Papi Sanchez IS retarded, but I think that's his gimmick at this point.
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LuckyLopez
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I know who you're talking about. The dude who ran against Washington in the election and that other white dude who he tagged with. But the
only reason I can even come close to their names is because you said them and they're just 2 or the seemingly endless stream of faceless,
generic wrestlers with silly names that are in FCW who I didn't profile because I can't tell them apart from each other. Its "Johnny
Prime, Johnny Curtis, and... everyone else." I can't tell any of those bastards apart and not one of them has shown a damn thing to make me
learn their names.
Riley just doesn't seem to have anything. I kinda like him but I have no idea why. He's not bad or anything. Put him in there with one
of the better wrestlers and he has a match I don't zone out during. He's got a normal enough name and wears a jacket so I remember who he
is. I wouldn't say he'll never be a star because who fucking knows? Recent wrestling history is filled with guys like John Cena, Tommy
Dreamer, Shane Douglas, James Storm, The Rock, and whoever who struck me as generic and easily disposable guys when I first saw them and then
something clicked and they became people to notice or people who became stars. Riley could well find that gimmick or catchphrase or whatever to make
him stand out. And if not I'm sure he'd be able to do fine in a tag team (if WWE had those) or as some random midcarder. But unless
there's something he has that I haven't seen he'd just get lost in the shuffle because he does nothing to make him stand out.
Angel, I dunno. Like I said, he's not without talent and I think he could probably work in WWE or TNA. I think he's a pretty limited
"high flyer" or striker but WWE's style is so toned down and generic that in the same way that Swagger's gutwrench powerbomb or
Bourne's SSP or any sloppy kick Yoshi Tatsu does seems to dazzle WWE fans who have no real basis for comparison I guess Angel could do the same
with his moveset. And if Jeff Hardy can be a main eventer and Matt Hardy an upper midcarder lots of people love or Eric Young a dude with a push then
I guess Angel could be because he's probably no more limited than them. But for a guy who is basically the high flyer of FCW and the big star
who gets giant banners he has not "IT" for me.
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C.MontgomeryPunk
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Where is Iron Mike Tarver on your list? Anybody who names themselves after Mike Tyson and Antonio Tarver is a-ok in my book. He cuts a solid promo
to boot and can play the angry black guy pretty well.
Lennox McEnroe on the other hand is a terrible combination of Lennox Lewis and John McEnroe - At least I think. Brutal ring name.
Ritchie Steamboat is definitely the real deal. He could be the same classic babyface that Ricky was for all those years. I don't know if he
could be a top guy, I just see a very similar career path as his father. I hope he goes by Ritchie rather than Ricky jr. (or just Ricky Steamboat
like Ted Dibiase Jr dropping the jr) Ritchie "The Dragon" Steamboat is a keeper
I hate the ringname Kaval and hope it's changed upon call-up. There is a rumor that he was supposed to be called up to feud with Rey Mysterio.
He'd wear a mask and be somebody from Rey's past. I do find it ironic that the wwe forces it's legit Luchas to de-mask, but will
put Low-Ki under a mask.
I think Joe Hennig went to Chavo's hair transplant doctor because he's looking a bit fuller on top. I think it's more than just the
buzz cut, though I could be wrong. Hennig should adopt his fathers singlet ring gear.
Mia Mancini is probably the best womens wrestler in FCW and she has had work done to the point she could make it in Diva land. For another wwe
"makeover" try and guess which current diva this is (no cheating) -
 
Justin Angel could get over for the reasons Lucky mentioned. However I don't think there is any way that the wwe bookers wouldn't book
him as gay rather than just a pretty boy metrosexual that the ladies would love. He can bring it enough in the ring now to be on a main roster.
I don't see any future for the Rotundos. I don't think there is a chance they would have ever been hired if it wasn't for their
last name. At best I guess they could fit as the tag team in a stable, maybe in Legacy after the shake-up. Given their father works for wwe I think
they'll eventually get a call-up regardless if they deserve it.
I never got into Heath Slater. He just seems like an Edge rip-off of sorts. His look is nothing special either.
Croft and Baretta have obviously been called up, but haven't made much of a splash. I liken them more to TNA's Motor City Machine Guns
than Hawkins and Ryder. I don't see what the point of a tag team on ECW is though. They certainly need more mic/promo time and a move to SD!
I'd also add a third wrestler to allow them to wrestle under "Freebird Rules" like they to in FCW. Michael Hayes might push them with that
gimmick.
My Mother was a preacher and my Father was a prizefighter...
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