Chris Is Good517
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Christopher Daniels arrested for DUI
*sigh*
I'm thinking TNA might want to have some kind of "how to not generate negative PR" meeting with its talent.
(Adjusts webcam) Hey what up y'all. This y'all girl Lil' J and this lil' girl right here (pause) ain't scared of nobody
so if you got anything to say to me you can say it to my motherfuckin' face or send me a mother- (pause) or hit me up on my motherfuckin'
MySpace. I ain't scare and this little bitch right here will fuckin' kill yo ass. NICK-GAH. So if you have anything to say you can say it
to... (pause) me. (pause). And if you wanna bump let's go cause I ain't scared of yo motherfucking ass, aight, bitch, latah.
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Shao Khan
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Pretty fucked up. He's one of the ones that I would've assumed that wouldn't get caught up in something like that. Then again he
*is* human so. . .On another note, I just watched the video that you got your sig from. High-fuckin-larious!
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nOOb
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I love how is real name is Daniel Christopher.
Everything about this girl is awesome. She's hot, she got kicked out of school for sucking too many dicks, she takes it in the ass and her body
gives itself abortions. -Punker on Lilly Allen's Miscarriage
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The Riot Act
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I'm a little surprised I didn't read about this first in a PM from Lucky. I thought we were friends, Lucky?
Seriously, though, it's not much of a secret around here how much man-love I have for Daniels (Lucky is just likely more aware of it than most
 ), so this is a bit of a shock to me. Not to mention a huge buzzkill (yes, I have been drinking).
Hopefully this situation gets resolved without much drama for Daniels and TNA.
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LuckyLopez
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I'll take this opportunity to voice how weird I think the reaction to DUIs in this country is. People don't like DUIs. Some people
excuse them as simple stupidity or controlled affairs, but most will agree they're bad. Many will say they're really bad. If you hurt
someone people lose it. And understandably so. You were reckless and irresponsible and you hurt or killed someone. But it always strikes me as odd
how the two matters seem to be handled differently. Sure, I understand why a victim changes things but the criminal is still doing the same thing.
Its no more reckless or dangerous or irresponsible if you kill someone. You just got unlucky where thousands of people that same night didn't.
And doesn't excuse it, but it often makes me question the perspective.
So yeah, with that off my chest I dunno. Daniels, you did a bad thing. You did a bad thing that could have been a lot worse but which was ultimately
the same bad thing way too many people I know have done and still done regularly. You should be suspended? I guess. I don't know. Suspend
him, TNA. It would be the moral call. Treat him fairly as you would anyone else in this situation. It really doesn't matter to me because in
the end I started this day thinking wrestling was a shitty business filled with immature and selfish idiots, I end the day thinking the same thing,
and I'll feel the same after you do or don't do something. And I had no reason to think Daniels above the fray so this doesn't
change anything. But I'm not even sure what it makes me think of him personally as I've seen plenty of intelligent and good people do it
too often.
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DrBoz
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| posted on 9-1-2009 at 08:51 AM |
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Lucky, that pretty much sums up my feelings exactly. I'll add though that if everyone who got a DUI got suspended from work there would be a
lot of nothing going on in the US. Not saying it shouldn't happen. Just saying it is frightening exactly how commonplace DUI's are
anymore. I'm a psychologist at a Community Mental Health center, and I'd say more than half of our new referrals are related to people on
probation for some type of drug or alcohol charge. Sad part is, a good portion of THOSE people are NOT first time offenders.
Is it really that hard to have a designated driver?
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reasoning, and inhibit clarity. With a little practice, writing can be an intimidating and impenetrable fog!"
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southermagu
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It is apparently very hard to get a designated driver. I'm friends with no less than three people who have been arrested for DUI.
Not to mention knowing about four others who are very open about driving drunk/high.
People are just plain old fucking stupid.
I'm disappointed Daniels got himself in this kind of trouble. I have no sympathy for him. Suspend his ass and while you're at it suspend
Angle.
Is it just me or did this stuff not happen when JJ was in charge?
[Edited on 9-1-2009 by southermagu]
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MayhemNX
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Here's the fun part about a DUI, living in Upstate NY. A buddy of mine got one, and we intended to go to Canadia to see a concert, got to the
border, he was turned away.
Turns out, you need to wait 5 years (this was a while ago so may have changed) to even APPLY to get back in, with a 6 month review process on your app
than a hearing to determine if you've "rehabilitated."
So apparetnly if you get a DUI in the states, to the Canadians, you're a threat to society.
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atothej
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quote:
Originally posted by LuckyLopez
I'll take this opportunity to voice how weird I think the reaction to DUIs in this country is. People don't like DUIs. Some people
excuse them as simple stupidity or controlled affairs, but most will agree they're bad. Many will say they're really bad. If you hurt
someone people lose it. And understandably so. You were reckless and irresponsible and you hurt or killed someone. But it always strikes me as odd
how the two matters seem to be handled differently. Sure, I understand why a victim changes things but the criminal is still doing the same thing.
Its no more reckless or dangerous or irresponsible if you kill someone. You just got unlucky where thousands of people that same night didn't.
And doesn't excuse it, but it often makes me question the perspective.
I disagree with this view about DUI, in general. There are any number of factors that differentiate a DUI with a victim and one without, and they
often go to culpability. Really, this goes to the notion (often pushed predominantly by MADD) that DUI is never a "victimless crime" simply because
it could result in tragic consequences.
For example, one could be just slightly over the legal limit, driving on often-unused roadways, and avoiding pedestrian-frequented areas. These all
represent decisions that take a large amount of luck out of the equation, and make the DUI driver less culpable than one who gets in an accident on a
highway. In this instance, the DUI driver is far less reckless and irresponsible than the DUI driver who causes an injury or fatality.
I'm not trying to argue that DUI is inherently harmless, but simply that it is not always a disaster waiting to happen, despite frequent
portrayals to the contrary. Should people avoid drinking and driving? Sure, of course. But that doesn't mean that all DUIs are equally or
even intrinsically dangerous.
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angstboy
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What about drunk guys with tasers?
Corner Kicked - a comic where Cory and Ziggy do inappropriate stuff to each other.
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atothej
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That poses an altogether different set of issues.
Your momma's so fat, Dave Meltzer gave her struggling to put her jeans on in the morning five stars. -- FF, destroying Jeb, his momma, and
Meltzer in one fell swoop.
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LuckyLopez
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| posted on 9-1-2009 at 08:29 PM |
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Sure, AJ. Some guys who would blow past the limit on a breathalyzer also have it together enough to drive safe. That sort of goes back to the thing
about how many people actually do it. So many people who down 5 beers an 2 shots and get in their car even though I know they were exhibiting all the
usual signs of being tipsy just 5 or 10 minutes ago. They grab a soda or a coffee... take a walk... dunk their head in the water... they're
good to go, or so they say. I have no idea. I don't have a breathalyzer handy. They seem aware enough.
I guess that's my point. "DUI" is treated like a "DUI." If you kill someone you become the devil, but context is rarely looked at.
Someone who kills a person could well be less reckless and less drunk than someone who gets home without the cops seeing him. Millions of people
drive dangerously drunk and get home without incident. Someone was driving drunk "safely" and didn't have the reaction time to deal with
another sober bad driver. One time some stupid asshole at my college plowed into a tree in front of my house and got away with nothing, and the
genius told me having no idea it was my house and realizing he was telling me he could have hurt my family or home.
I'm just saying its a weird crime to figure because of the lack of intent and because of the varying nature of "drunk." Because some hold
their liquor better than others and because I couldn't say the alphabet backwards right now. And again, I'm not excusing it because
there's really no good excuse for driving drunk. I just never really have much reaction to basic "drunk driving" stories. If there's a
crazy story that goes with it that shows how out of it you were? If its the 3rd DUI you've gotten? If you blew an insane number that would get
an elephant drunk? Obviously context can tell a story and shape a picture, but ultimately I never know how to judge the guy who drank a bit too much,
felt alright, and tried top get home without incident. Other than to know he was immature and reckless. But the basic lack of intent, the usual lack
of context, and the individual nature of "drunk" all make anything more difficult for me.
So Daniels is an immature dope. RVD is an immature dope. Joba Chamberlain, Charles Barkley, George W. Bush, and way too many of my friends and
family. But beyond that I have no idea how to read it and the presence of a victim in and of itself doesn't really tell anything more about the
criminal or his actions. But it does tend to dramatically change the reaction, understandably so.
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ThePunisher
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| posted on 9-1-2009 at 09:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by southermagu
Is it just me or did this stuff not happen when JJ was in charge?
I think that's kind of an unfair blanket statement to make. It hasn't been that long since Jarrett was "removed from power".
You make it seem like a ton of incidents have happened in the month he has been at home.
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LuckyLopez
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| posted on 9-1-2009 at 09:41 PM |
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Yeah, its really a pretty silly idea. For one, the Angle incident is still a "he said, she said" scenario. Angle did get a DUI a year or so ago.
TNA worked with guys like Scott Hall, Raven, and Shane Douglas for years during their bad personal problems and they actually sent home guys like
Juventud, Teddy Hart, CM Punk, Jeff Hardy, and Apolo over bad enough behavior. Its wrestlers. They do fucked up shit. I really doubt Daniels would
have chosen not to drink Friday night and then drive home if he had a different boss.
And for minor trivia notes.
http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/3873.html
quote:
As reported on Monday night, TNA Wrestling star Christopher Daniels was arrested on DUI charges this past Friday in Smithfield, North Carolina
after being pulled over for a traffic violation and failing (0.14 BAC) a breathalyzer test.
It's now become apparent that Christopher Daniels was drinking with WWE wrestler Shane "Hurricane
" Helms before he got behind the wheel.
Daniels was arrested a short distance from Helms's home. Daniels and Helms posted messages on Twitter on Friday evening talking about a drinking
contest the two were having. Since then, most of the messages referencing the drinking that led to Daniels' DUI have been taken down.
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Shannon Soze
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What's even more crazy about it is that prior to that he was in a drinking contest with Gregory Helms at some bar. You know you can't
out-drink superheroes.
Cool, though, that TNA guys and WWE guys can hang out with each other and not have their respective owners have a conniption about it.
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OORick
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I'm not going to get into any of the Morality of DUI Laws crap. But I am going to pop in with something that just got emailed to me.
Apparently, Christopher Daniels arrest was the result of an "Interpromotional Drink-Off" against Hurricane Helms. And it was documented on Twitter.
Here's a transcript-y type thing (most of it tells the tale of the drinking, but then the last three twats are apparently tangentially
acknowledging the arrest, and Helms being the one who bailed Daniels out):
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Helms: @facdaniels is at the Hurri-Cave! I hate his liver and it must be destroyed!!!
8:19 PM Aug 27th
Daniels: The Hurri-cave is tremendous!! I am in awe of it's splendor!!
8:40 PM Aug 27th
Daniels: By the way, I also hate my liver, but only slightly less than myself as a whole. Kill me if you see me!!
8:42 PM Aug 27th
Helms: At this point, I'm pretty sure @facdaniels liver hates me too. But that's how I roll. Fu*k livers!!!
9:09 PM Aug 27th
Daniels: @HurricaneHelms No, my liver and @HurricaneHelms are SOOO close right now.....
9:11 PM Aug 27th in reply to HurricaneHelms
Helms: http://twitpic.com/fjarr - Me and @facdaniels and these items that hate our livers!!
9:37 PM Aug 27th
Helms: You shoulda been here!! RT @MATTHARDYBRAND: Damn briz! Hate I missed it.. To hell with those livers, they'll recover.. some day! :)
9:57 PM Aug 27th
Helms: @MATTHARDYBRAND You know I just got poked in the eye! CD too!! He can't see sh*t!! LOL
9:58 PM Aug 27th in reply to MATTHARDYBRAND
Helms: What a night!! This was one for the books! And by that I mean one of those books that will never be written!! :-)
2:14 AM Aug 28th
Daniels: @HurricaneHelms i know for sure I'll never read it!!
3:06 AM Aug 28th in reply to HurricaneHelms
Helms: The Interpromotional Drink-off was won by Hurricane of course! Although my wallet feels a lot lighter! Weird! Hmmm! LOL
10:39 AM Aug 28th
I don't know if it makes me an awful person or not, but that whole mess strikes me as pretty funny. Apparently, it's next to impossible
for ANYbody to not come off like a fucktarded assclown on Twitter. I mean: twatting to someone WHO IS IN THE SAME ROOM AS YOU?!? Jesus H. Lapdancing
Christ. And adding to my perverse giggling: Daniels tested less than twice the legal limit after all that "liver hatred" and "interpromotional
drink-off'ing" and "making a drunken Twit of himself."
Goddamned lightweight. Or is "cruiserweight" the more politically correct term in this case?
Rick
PS: Still probably not as lame as Santino Marella failing a field test and getting slapped with a DUI despite blowing LESS THAN the legal limit,
though.
"He's from Mars, Officer; whiskey does not affect alien beings."
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drmuerto
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The important thing is that Helms drinks the better brand of vodka, and I'm not just saying that because it comes in a skull-shaped bottle.
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nOOb
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Okay, so Daniels gets suspended is a logical assumption...does this mean they push Hurricane for not just getting a rival company's guy
suspended, but also outdrinking him?
Everything about this girl is awesome. She's hot, she got kicked out of school for sucking too many dicks, she takes it in the ass and her body
gives itself abortions. -Punker on Lilly Allen's Miscarriage
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Shannon Soze
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Heck, this puts him in a Triple Threat with William Regal and Christian for the ECW championship at Breaking Point....not.
And about the skull-shaped bottle. I refuse to believe that Dan Aykroyd is responsible for that. (Crystal Head Vodka).
[Edited on 9-1-2009 by Shannon Soze]
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drmuerto
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quote:
Originally posted by Shannon Soze
And about the skull-shaped bottle. I refuse to believe that Dan Aykroyd is responsible for that. (Crystal Head Vodka).
I have a skull bottle signed by him from an event he did in NYC back in the winter. I got a chance to talk to his partner fora bit too and it sounds
like that's the guy that's really in charge of the product and the packaging. Akroyd seems to have put up some of the money for the
project, though, and he's the face of the brand, but he didn't wow me with his knowledge of liquor or anything.
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Stone Cold Steve Autism
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quote:
Originally posted by OORick
I don't know if it makes me an awful person or not, but that whole mess strikes me as pretty funny. Apparently, it's next to impossible
for ANYbody to not come off like a fucktarded assclown on Twitter.
My Twitter owns.
Originally posted by DevilSoprano
Just to play a bit of Devil's Advocate here...some of the movements/motions of Erin in these videos kinda, sorta, quite possibly, maybe just
a little knows she's being taped. I don't think she does, but there is a part of me just wondering if maybe she knows this can push
her beyond sports announcer and into a more mainstream media outlet.
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Shao Khan
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quote:
Originally posted by angstboy
What about drunk guys with tasers?
Shit. How'd you find out about that?
I've made random stops that turned into DUI's, and from a police perspective, it mostly falls between, "yeah, you could've hurt
yourself or someone else and you know you shouldn't have done it" or "you know DAMNED well your ass shouldn't have been out on the
road" (for those that I've caught weaving in & out of their lanes, obviously fucked up).
The way I look at it, and no matter who it may happen to, is that the legal limit for driving is put in place for *everyone*. The driver, potential
casualties, and for general public safety. I say that it's fucked up that he got the charge, but I don't excuse or condone his behavior in
the least. Not just because I'm a cop, but it really is a fucked up thing to do period.
ETA: I've got good friends that I've busted for DUI, so it really doesn't matter who it is to me but I tend to be less forgiving if
it's people that I know.
[Edited on 9-1-2009 by Shao Khan]
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Chris Is Good517
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quote:
Originally posted by nOOb
Okay, so Daniels gets suspended is a logical assumption...does this mean they push Hurricane for not just getting a rival company's guy
suspended, but also outdrinking him?
No because TNA doesn't exist in WWE Universe.
quote:
Shao Khan
ETA: I've got good friends that I've busted for DUI, so it really doesn't matter who it is to me but I tend to be less forgiving if
it's people that I know.
That's actually good to hear, for some reason.
I don't know, some people make mistakes and some people are idiots. Many years ago, I drove home drunk one night from a friend's house
because the other people there were creepy and I really didn't want to spend the night there. I drove slowly and made it home without incident.
It was an inexcusable mistake, but it was a mistake and I learned from it and I've never done it again. On the other hand, my sister has been
arrested twice for DUI in a 2 month span, wrecking two cars in the process, before she was even 21. And now she's a bartender. She's a
fucking retard (luckily nobody was hurt in either of her displays of brainlessness). Either way, it's probably easier for us to live with it
because we didn't hurt or kill anyone. I can't imagine how it must feel to be drunk behind the wheel and take somebody's life.
I think what's really going to distinguish whether Daniels made a mistake or whether he's an idiot is if this happens again.
(Adjusts webcam) Hey what up y'all. This y'all girl Lil' J and this lil' girl right here (pause) ain't scared of nobody
so if you got anything to say to me you can say it to my motherfuckin' face or send me a mother- (pause) or hit me up on my motherfuckin'
MySpace. I ain't scare and this little bitch right here will fuckin' kill yo ass. NICK-GAH. So if you have anything to say you can say it
to... (pause) me. (pause). And if you wanna bump let's go cause I ain't scared of yo motherfucking ass, aight, bitch, latah.
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