hail2thesteve
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ECW Title Match at TLC PPV Announced
Christian-Shelton Benjamin in a ladder match. The way the two were talking last night about stealing the show, I hope they give them more than 10
minutes.
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Psycho Penguin
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We got our new blood PPV, let's see how many buyrates it gets. I'm loving this match.
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williamssl
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I guess this saddles Batista/UT with the chair match then, right?
Probably for the best.
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DrBoz
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I'd love to see Christian/Shelton get some serious time to pull off something awesome. It's almost like someone at the E is actually
paying attention to some of the comments on the interwebs. Christian talks about ECW being ignored. Jesse brings up the issue of being tired with
the same people in the main events. Younger guys are finally getting what appears to be legitimate pushes.
I hope they're willing to ride it out for a bit to see if it brings about positive attitude changes from fans. Vince has always seemed like a
reasonable and patient type of guy....
"I guess my heaviest experience is gravity...keeps my feet down...it's like weighing me down...I can't get my arms up now...like my legs
fall...I'm falling down and I can't...it's making me heavier...I'm heavier...I can't move...Now I'm a dead dog in
water...I can't...I'm floating but I sink to the water...I'm a wet sandwich...wet with meat...I'm broken salami...tiny
mustaches are heavy...I'm falling...."
- Chester from Sifl and Olly
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SeanSmythe
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The conspiracy theorist in me wonders if Vince is actually scared of Hogan/Bischoff at TNA.
But Shelton vs Christian in a ladder match, if given time can be all types of awesomeness.
[Edited on 11-25-2009 by SeanSmythe]
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theflammablemanimal
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| posted on 11-26-2009 at 12:32 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by williamssl
I guess this saddles Batista/UT with the chair match then, right?
Seems like they were setting that up with Batista powerbombing Ray onto the chair.
And good for them. These guys would stink in a Ladder match and a table match wouldn't add much. But they're both guys who could
believably take some nice chairshots and keep fighting. They'll probably both kick out of a finisher and then the match will end with a
powerbomb/Tombstone on a chair. And I would think even WWE would realize this is the 3rd or 4th best match on the card and hopefully give it less time
than the ECW Ladder match.
Still, I've got to say a Chair match is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard. How is this any better than a no-dq match? It just
reminds me of a CyberSunday where fans could vote for Kane/Snitsky in a chain/chair/something match, the fans chose Chain, and then they went ahead
and used a chair anyway.
But I guess as long as it isn't a Chair-on-a-pole match, it won't be so bad. It's not that a Chair match itself will stink,
it's just that "Chair Match" isn't going to sell PPVs.
Still, I might actually buy this PPV since the 2 ladder matches sound awesome, we'll probably get a nice Morrison match of some kind, and
I'd like to make WWE think that pushing new blood will pay off. Maybe a nice buy rate will keep Orton out of the title picture for a while.
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williamssl
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I'll blame my memory on this one, but has there ever been a chair match? I mean just a chair match? I know TLC got started with the
Dudley/Tables + Hardys/Ladder + Edge&Christian;/Chair, and the chair part was the whole con-chair-to thing...
...and there have been tables matches. And ladder matches...
But Chair matches? I can't recall a straight up Chair match.
To the point above, what's the stip? Chairs are legal? And isn't that just a No DQ match? Or a hardcore match? Why limit it to
just chairs...
Someone refresh this foggy memory on whether this match has any actual history (besides Edge and Christian just doing the con-chair-to thing)....
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CheMateo
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| posted on 11-26-2009 at 01:51 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by williamssl
But Chair matches? I can't recall a straight up Chair match.
To the point above, what's the stip? Chairs are legal? And isn't that just a No DQ match? Or a hardcore match? Why limit it to
just chairs...
Nope there has never been a straight up "Chair match." Your memory didn't fail you in how the TLC matches got set up.
I guess they didn't want to "cheapen" the TLC gimmick by not making multiple TLC matches but that's the E's own fault for using
gimmicks as band aids. I don't know the exact rules of the upcoming chair match but it would seem like only chairs are legal. Otherwise what
is the point? They would be better off just making it anything goes.
Quite frankly I get the feeling it'll be an okay match with just a couple chair spots. I honestly wouldn't trust many wrestlers to have
an entertaining chair match other than RVD. The guy had a lot of fun and inventive spots with just a chair. I remember a few of his matches during
his Hardcore title run only used a chair or two. Normally I would throw a tantrum at the lack of weapons. But with RVD in tow he managed to make
liberal use of the chair and do something different. I'm afraid Taker/Batista will just slap each other a couple of times, maybe wedge a chair
in between the ropes, and either choke slame/tombstone or power bomb on a chair. Ho hum.
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theflammablemanimal
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quote:
Originally posted by CheMateo
Nope there has never been a straight up "Chair match." Your memory didn't fail you in how the TLC matches got set up.
Yup, I think that's correct. The only time I even remember mention of a chair match was the abovementioned Cyber Sunday match (which was
actually back in 2004 when it was called Taboo Tuesday). Could have been a Chain match, Chair match, or all weapons and it became all weapons. Big
surprise.
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Gobshite
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| posted on 11-26-2009 at 11:20 AM |
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I think this might be the opener, as they wont want the two ladder matches near each other, and as the only TLC match on the card (and the most likely
title change), they'll close with DX/Jerishow.
Undertaker vs Dave will just be a good old slobberknocker. They had some good matches the other year, and using the chair WITH things like guardrails,
steps and announcers booths will give them more than enough opportunities for a good entertainment brawl.
I also think they'll give Shelton the title. Now is a good time to experiment with what might click in the next booking year (after backlash).
If things like Seamus stick, they carry on with it. If it fails miserably, you restart things at the rumble and move on.
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chewey
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The "chair match" and the tables match might be a lame way to do so, but at least we're not getting a ppv saddled with three or four TLC
matches. Granted they should have realized before they decided to do a TLC ppv that Undertaker-Batista and Cena-Sheamus would probably make for
terrible TLC matches, but you work with what you've got.
My issue is that won't the table match between Cena and Sheamus seem really lame when DX-Jerishow will presumably be putting people through
multiple tables throughout the course of the entire match? I'm not as worried about the TLC taking away from Christian-Shelton's standard
ladder match, but that's also something to think about.
"Don't matter how many times you get burnt, you just keep doin' the same."
--Bodie, HBO's The Wire
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theflammablemanimal
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That's the real problem with this setup, in that they probably will hold back on other table spots just to make the actual Table match look
better.
Which, actually, is silly.. The Table match won't be about how brutal the winning table spot is. It should just be about the suspense of trying
to get someone through the table. Plus, I imagine at least one guy will put himself through a table on his own without losing.
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Thom
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| posted on 11-27-2009 at 05:29 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Psycho Penguin
We got our new blood PPV, let's see how many buyrates it gets. I'm loving this match.
The cynic in me really wants to say that - due to the recession, the meh product, and the holidays - buyrates will go down. Then, Vinnie Mac & co.
will claim that it's because of the "non-proven" guys in the ME or some horseshit as a way to plug Orton (or someone else that's a
veteran ME'er) back into the ME spotlight.
But, I'll refrain from saying that. 
Stay wet, my friends.
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