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OO Nation: All discussion pertaining to Impact (airing April 26, 2010) should be done in this thread. It will remain pinned at the top of the
Current Events section for the remainder of the week. In discussing the program, we'd love it if you shared your numerical rating for
the show (from a low of 0.0 to a high of 5.0, in any increment of one-tenth of a point). For full details on the ratings scale and how to join in on
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Tonight on Impact: Its Monday and its a taped Impact this week, so with RAW running the Draft you can go find the spoilers for the show in the
spoiler forum if you want to see what's worth watching and what isn't. But even though I read the spoilers a week ago I've
forgotten them so we're playing this like we're all as pure and innocent as the the members of the Impact Zone's Critical Crew.
Last week was one for the books as Rob Van Dam ended the 7 month reign of AJ Styles and became the TNA World Heavyweight Champion. AJ will most
certainly want his rematch, the Pope still wants revenge on AJ, Joe's back in the mix, and there's a dozen more guys who could get
involved in the title picture. And Eric Bischoff has promised to unveil the new ranking system for the World Title that he mentioned waaaaaaaaaay
back in January and then forgot until Hulk reminded him last week. So we should be getting some clarification on the World Title picture this
week.
In ring the story is what an optimistic man might say is the end of the "Magic Ring Saga" as Ric Flair will make his singles in-ring debut to face
Abyss. On the line in the match will be both men's rings. I can feel your excitement. Combined Abyss and Flair might lose enough blood to
raise Pinhead from hell.
We have two scheduled title defenses tonight. The new X Division Champion Frankie Kazarian will defend his belt against Shannon Moore, who must have
lurid photos of Eric Bischoff because this will be his 3rd title shot in the last 2 months and I don't think he's won a single match in
2010. And Matt Morgan will have to defend the Tag Team Titles against Team 3D, which means he'll have to scrounge up another tag partner with
Hernandez off the shelf, even if he doesn't think its necessary. Last week Morgan sought to get Moore to stand in for him but Moore refused and
had some harsh/douchy things to say. With Doug Williams unavailable to smash Moore in the face with a brick Matt Morgan will have to just kick his
head off for our amusement.
That's our advertised show but as always, you can expect much more. So while I can't blame you for caring more about what RAW midcarder
gets a reprieve and gets to go to SD and whether or not SD can walk right tomorrow morning, you can always keep Impact available as something to flip
to during those guest host segments, commercials, and leprechauns.
And as always Rick will be doing his show-to-show Tale of the Tape at OO proper and you should go and check that out at
http://www.oowrestling.com/columns/oo/20100419.shtml. If its not up when you click check back later and it will be.
The flOOr is yours, OO Nation. Let your voice be heard and your thoughts on Brand Supremacy be known. Don't wait till after 10pm to post,
either. Pre-show previewing and prognosticating is certainly welcome. So discuss, debate, and rate!
I don't think anyone actually watched this one. TNA's whole "one live and one taped" schedule works for me, because it means I get to
watch 24 on-time every other week, especially since they don't seem to try too hard on their taped shows.
Everything about this girl is awesome. She's hot, she got kicked out of school for sucking too many dicks, she takes it in the ass and her body
gives itself abortions. -Punker on Lilly Allen's Miscarriage
LuckyLopez
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posted on 4-27-2010 at 05:01 AM
I watched on two monitors and caught most of the show but even I was basically more interested in the Draft and its implications than a show I had
already read spoilers on.
Still, seemed solid enough from what I did see. Even if there was a disturbing amount of time spent on the Mohawk Patrol and if Ric Flair main
evented.
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posted on 4-27-2010 at 07:42 AM
I've had Impact on while I've been surfing the internet. I feel the need to point out that my television is obscenely large for my tastes
and it should be hard to ignore for that reason alone.
But somehow I've done just that unless AJ Styles is on my screen. I literally watched the opening promo, which I thought was pretty good and
just now looked back when the AJ/Sting vs Jarrett/Hardy match came on.
I couldn't think of anything to say. So I just stabbed him. With my sais.
Joeldacat
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posted on 4-27-2010 at 03:38 PM
I didn't read spoilers, and found both Raw and Impact equally solid at the time. It's taking a lot of effort, however, to remember what it
was I actually watched.
Unorganized thoughts as follows:
Morgan spiking Moore off the top rope looked brutal.
Joe's unexpected appearance and beatdown of Kaz had me cheering the TV.
Flair as a bloody mess is an increasingly disturbing visual. He was bleeding just by yelling during his promo - that's not right.
It bothers me Flair won in the main event, and then lost to Abyss' Hogan impersonation after the match restart. I feel bad for the guy.
I was also hoping Jeff Hardy didn't dive off the ladder onto AJ during that match - it's only Impact, for Chrissake! - and was glad the
match ended before he went that high risk for a relatively meaningless tag match.
I also greatly enjoyed the Pope and Anderson playing off each other. They feel like larger than life characters, but completely natural to their
inherent personalities at the same time. I don't feel that way about most WWE up-and-coming guys. I knew it was fake, but had to turn away from
Anderson looking like he was going to gouge Pope's eye out.
ETA: I guess I can rate the show: 3.9. I feel like they have to build up to a 4.something; and if next week is good, it'll get it from me.
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posted on 4-27-2010 at 08:55 PM
Finally watched the whole show and I think I'm glad I did. It was a solid show and it get's an easy 3.
I think the big problem was that they were up against the draft and blew their whole wad last week in terms of "shocking tv".
Much like Raw, however, I feel like everyone delivered to the best of their ability. The only thing holding this down from matching RAW is the
Flair/Abyss nonsense.
It's just unnecessary and very boring.
As I said earlier, AJ's promo was that kind of nice, dismissive heel promo that you don't see very often. Where as Jericho seems to be a
petulant asshole who wants to be handed everything, AJ seems like he really believes he deserves anything he wants.
They've hooked me next week for whatever continuation of Pope/Anderson there might be. Those two already seem to have a nice chemistry and the
eventual matches should be nice.
Kaz/Moore was actually pretty good. If only they'd quite
Joe destroying Kaz was interesting because he didn't sneak attack Kaz. It was pretty clear from the moment he hit the ring that he came to kick
someone's ass.
Kaz going from being indignant at Joe to realizing he needed to bail was a good little touch. As was his reluctance to make any sudden moves, like Joe
was the T-Rex from Jurassic Park or something.
The off camera Team 3D beatdown on Waltman, at first, seems like a heel move. But in reality, that's just how those two would handle that
situation according to how they've been characterized.
Nash coming out with Waltman's blood on his hand was another little touch that added to it, as was the backstage promo. Although I worry about
who the fourth man is.
Morgan continuing to be delusional has been fun. If in fact, he is delusional. I personally choose to believe that Morgan has merged with the Venom
sybmiote. Which would explain his apparent thirst for cracking people's skulls open.
All in all, TNA is building and maintaining momentum and making me want to continue watching the next week.
I couldn't think of anything to say. So I just stabbed him. With my sais.
angstboy
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posted on 4-27-2010 at 08:59 PM
Why TNA can't find 90 seconds to put something like this on Impact is beyond me:
[Edited on 4-27-2010 by angstboy]
Corner Kicked - a comic where Cory and Ziggy do inappropriate stuff to each other.
TownOfDalem
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posted on 4-27-2010 at 09:07 PM
Because nobody wants to risk giving Russo the idea of doing yet another alcoholism storyline.
"I think Tim Wakefield would even say tonight that Tim Wakefield got to Tim Wakefield tonight."
-- Tim McCarver
angstboy
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posted on 4-27-2010 at 09:08 PM
If the very existence of Beer Money didn't cause that to happen, there's no way this video was gonna do it.
Corner Kicked - a comic where Cory and Ziggy do inappropriate stuff to each other.
southermagu
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posted on 4-27-2010 at 09:22 PM
That's an interesting way to get a feud going...
I couldn't think of anything to say. So I just stabbed him. With my sais.
LuckyLopez
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posted on 4-27-2010 at 09:50 PM
quote:Originally posted by angstboy
Why TNA can't find 90 seconds to put something like this on Impact is beyond me:
Reason #827 why I ask why no booker in the last 10 years has thought to steal Paul Heyman's "Pulp Fiction" gimmick. 5 minutes a week of short
video clips from your roster to advance stories, keep characters active, and just entertain. Blocked together so they don't get lost in the
confusion of the rest of the show or break up the stories you're trying to tell. Every single booking notion from that era has been stolen,
recycled, and run into the ground EXCEPT this one.
from pwinsider -
The 4/26 edition of Impact was definitely hurt by the draft (even if WWE wasn't overly helped by it) as they did a 0.5 rating, with 739,000
viewers.
My Mother was a preacher and my Father was a prizefighter...
LuckyLopez
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posted on 4-28-2010 at 12:14 AM
Yeah, I said .6. So just about what I expected. As always TNA and Co shouldn't be paniced, they should just realize that's what happens
when you run a taped show advertising Abyss vs Flair in the main event and nothing major in spoilers against a major 3 hour cross brand RAW with
actual implications on the company and no crappy guest host. The "3 hour" thing being key, since they lost the little help they were getting from
the timeslot move.
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posted on 4-28-2010 at 02:00 PM
Sheez. 0.5 is pretty rough. I think this'll get them on the path to live shows every week. Within 6 months, all Impacts will be live. I can feel
it.
Also, for Lucky's benefit, it's "panicked". And no, I don't think TNA should be panicked either. That's not gonna stop the
IWC from freaking the fuck out and shitting themselves over what is a largely meaningless number.
Corner Kicked - a comic where Cory and Ziggy do inappropriate stuff to each other.
theflammablemanimal
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posted on 4-28-2010 at 04:52 PM
Can Flair bleed just by thinking about it?
Loved AJ's promo. He's really come into his character and mic skills. "Are you high, right now?" was a great line, made even better when
Taz said ""Yeah, probably."
I don't like where the Terry/Jordan thing is going. It always feels weird when the Face's whole motivation is "Ugh, don't touch me
homo!"
Anderson/Pope was great. Their both doing a great job with their characters, especially Pope with the crowd interaction.
Actually, a lot of TNA is doing great character work. Morgan's on fire, Nash/Hall/3D were believable in all their backstage stuff. Really liked
the Joe/Kaz interaction.
I'm just not sure why 3D would bother attacking X-pac. I thought they squashed the Band at Lockdown. Shouldn't they have moved on.
Solid show.
DKBroiler
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posted on 4-28-2010 at 05:08 PM
Impact was solid, but not spectacular. It seemed to lose steam as it went along however that could simply be that I can't stand Abyss and still
wish Flair hadn't unretired.
2.8 sounds about right. Certainly not bad. Just not all that good. Probably slightly better then an average wrestling show should be.
The world no longer moves when Chuck Norris does push-ups because Tim Tebow pushes back.
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posted on 4-28-2010 at 05:57 PM
One thing I forgot:
That Jarret/Hardy v AJ/Sting match was horrendous. Could someone please explain how it starts off as Falls Count Anywhere, then suddenly they have to
follow tag team rules (complete with a 2nd ref who also misses tags) and then goes back to Falls Count Anywhere? What the fuck? This took the
illogical No-DQ tag match to the next level.
Biff_Manly
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posted on 4-28-2010 at 06:19 PM
TNA might really have to consider staying live if they are going to put on taped shows like this. The spark and energy that last week's show had
was just missing this week. I don't know if that is a factor of the edit or is it because they film both weeks at once and the wrestlers just
don't have the "pop" they have for the live show?
Either way I hope this Monday's show brings back the certain something they had last week.
"Walter: I can solve everything by making this gramophone have sex with time."
--SCSA's Fringe on Ice Holiday Spectacular.
TommyD420
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posted on 4-28-2010 at 08:54 PM
quote:Originally posted by theflammablemanimal
One thing I forgot:
That Jarret/Hardy v AJ/Sting match was horrendous. Could someone please explain how it starts off as Falls Count Anywhere, then suddenly they have to
follow tag team rules (complete with a 2nd ref who also misses tags) and then goes back to Falls Count Anywhere? What the fuck? This took the
illogical No-DQ tag match to the next level.
You seriously act like this never happens in every single wrestling company.
Refs giving 5-counts in No-DQ matches? Counting pinfalls in submission matches?
But "they did it" doesn't really justify it either and its not manimal is some TNA hater who praises WWE for this stuff. He's just a
critical fan of everyone.
I think I'll need to catch the Impact replay because I'm really drawing a blank on the show. I guess I really did keep most of my focus
on RAW.
You seriously act like this never happens in every single wrestling company.
Refs giving 5-counts in No-DQ matches? Counting pinfalls in submission matches?
Never happens.
To be fair, I did say "illogical no-DQ tag match," to show that I think they stink in general. If I had the time, I'd go back through my
posting history because I think I've pointed it out a few times in the past. That's partly why I didn't expound on how stupid it was
(like when Jeff let the ref put him back in the corner twice, then said "fuck it" and kept wrestling and the ref said "fuck it" and let it go).
Although I must admit, I don't think I've ever seen an anywhere-falls tag match that wasn't tornado style and I also don't
think I've ever seen 2 refs in 1 match both miss a tag.
Plus, just because everyone else does something stupid doesn't make it ok.
Thanks Lucky
kafkonia
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posted on 4-30-2010 at 03:21 AM
quote:Originally posted by angstboy
Why TNA can't find 90 seconds to put something like this on Impact is beyond me:
*snip*
Interestingly, they just aired it during the replay... I wonder what prompted that.
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posted on 4-30-2010 at 02:17 PM
quote:Originally posted by theflammablemanimal
Can Flair bleed just by thinking about it?
I don't know if he can by just thinking about it but it sure does look like if he creases his brow wrong currently, he'll start a
gusher.
Also, this made me laugh -
quote:I don't like where the Terry/Jordan thing is going. It always feels weird when the Face's whole motivation is "Ugh, don't
touch me homo!"
I thought it was a decent show. Nothing much to get excited about.
I did like the opening promo and agree with Manimal, A.J. really is getting better on the mic. His "You're probably high right now!" comment
got me to laugh, mostly due to his delivery.
GOD, Velvet Sky is hot beyond words. When she yanked her skirt up real quick while doing her "grinding on the middle rope" ring entrance, I almost
lost my shit right then and there. I'm also liking Madison as the Knockouts champ. She fits the "chickenshit heel" role to perfection. Just
an amazingly hot "chickenshit heel."
I like Samoa Joe attacking Kaz, since that's a fresh matchup and I'd like to see what those two do together.
Speaking of new feuds I like, Anderson and Pope should be awesome promo-wise, if nothing else.
Glad to see they finally had the common sense to join up the Mohawk Twins.
Man, seeing Flair stumbling around balding and bleeding made me really wish he would stay retired. And that final pin on Abyss was the lamest thing
I've ever seen (okay, maybe not the lamest. But close!). Mainly because Abyss, who was supposed to be incapacitated by the brass knucks nut
shot, apparently had the where-with-all to brush the hair out of his face before kindly letting Flair pin him. That just looked horribly amateurish.
And was I the only one thinking it made Abyss and Hogan seem like the heels when they were holding down an old man and stealing his ring?
[Edited on 4-30-2010 by gobbledygooker]
Originally posted by punkerhardcore -
"Seriously, Rock Band > Guitar Hero. Guitar Hero is like the cute girl who makes out with you for the first time, which is awesome because it's
new and exciting. Then Rock Band comes along and is like the chick who blows you your junior year of high school... and then that first girl just
doesn't look quite so fun anymore."
Wickedfrost
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posted on 4-30-2010 at 05:24 PM
The one thing that I'm sure of is that Joe should never chase a title. The champs should chase him for legitimacy. I prefer Joe when he's
wrestling awesome matches with the attitude - "I don't need a belt, I'm Samoa f'n Joe".
Stay wet my friends.
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posted on 4-30-2010 at 06:24 PM
So this is the first Impact that I've watched in a really long time. I've got to say that I liked it a lot. Aside from the Flair-Abyss
awfulness, I enjoyed every match.
Pope is just awesome. I liked Elijah Burke back in WWE, but wow. He had that crowd eating out of his hand. I thought it was a mistake when WWE let
him go then, but now I'm certain that they're absolute morons with no eye for talent. How on earth this guy got released is beyond me,
but he's going to a player in TNA for as long as he wants to.
Matt Morgan? Now THAT'S how you build a guy. I really enjoyed JeriShow and ShowMiz, but there's nobody around them to work with other
than the Harts. What TNA is doing with Morgan is more interesting than anything going on in the WWE tag ranks -- and that's not counting MCMG,
Generation Me, Beer Money, etc. They've got some good stuff going on, and there's more coming when they bring in Shelton to do a program
(hopefully) with Angle or AJ.
And Velvet Sky pitches my tent more than any Diva I can think of. If TNA will lay off the Flair-Hogan stuff and keep X-Pac off of TV forever, I may
convert completely.
