OORick
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OOfficial Ratings/Discussion Thread for: TNA Impact (May 3, 2010)
OO Nation: All discussion pertaining to RAW (airing May 3, 2010) should be done in this thread. It will remain pinned at the top of the Current
Events section for the remainder of the week. In discussing the program, we'd love it if you shared your numerical rating for the show
(from a low of 0.0 to a high of 5.0, in any increment of one-tenth of a point). For full details on the ratings scale and how to join in on this
informal "Battle of the Brands," please be sure to check out the OOfficial
Guidelines for TV Ratings/Discussion Threads.
Tonight on RAW: Just go read http://www.oowrestling.com/columns/oo/20100503.shtml for a Tale of the Tape for tonight's
Bubba-is-out-but Luger-is-in edition of Impact (trading one no-talent contributor to a female performer's demise for another, they are!). If
Lucky or others more in-tune with the TNA product wanna add more specific previewy stuff, please do go nuts and post away.
But for most of your informational needs, remember, it's: http://www.oowrestling.com/columns/oo/20100503.shtml
The flOOr is yours, OO Nation. Let your voice be heard and your thoughts on Brand Supremacy be known. Don't wait till after 10pm to post,
either. Pre-show previewing and prognosticating is certainly welcome. So discuss, debate, and rate!
"He's from Mars, Officer; whiskey does not affect alien beings."
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theflammablemanimal
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quote:
Originally posted by OORickBubba-is-out-but Luger-is-in edition of Impact (trading one no-talent contributor to a female
performer's demise for another, they are!)
Well played.
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LuckyLopez
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It was half written, so what the hell.
The big story this week is probably Hulk Hogan. Hogan promised last week to give Ric Flair's Hall of Fame ring - Which Abyss won in a match
with Flair - to someone this week. In addition Hogan's decided to address Sting about... I'm not really sure. I guess the heel turn he
made like 2 months ago. A more compelling big story is the World Heavyweight Championship now held by Rob Van Dam. AJ Styles would seem in line for
a rematch but Eric Bischoff introduced an online fan poll to help find the new #1 contender. With Jeff Hardy and a surprising Desmond Wolfe competing
for #1 TNA is teasing an announcement of who RVD will face. And while its not explicitly stated it does sound like they might be teasing a title
match tonight, so we might have RVD vs Hardy or RVD vs Wolfe on the bill.
The Motor City Machine Guns face Beer Money over a backstage skit the MCMG did mocking Beer Money... which didn't air on last week's
Impact. Hopefully TNA clues in there and shows it tonight but just in case, you can see it
here. (Although, in total fairness they DID air it on the
Thursday replay and since Thursday got a higher rating than Monday I guess more people saw it than didn't.)
Douglas Williams will be back after a 2 week hiatus due to volcano and lets all hope he's pissed off that he was stripped of the X Division
title. And lets hope he has a brick. The Beautiful People will defend all of their titles in a 6 woman tag vs Tara, Sarita, & Taylor Wilde. Its
probably the BP getting over on some ladies not in the mix (and rumored to be headed out the door) but part of me actually wants to believe that we
can get a curve ball here and Knockout Champion Sarita. And last on the list of announced things tonight is Orlando Jordon debuting a talk show
segment, the O-Zone, with his guest Global Champion Rob Terry- aka the Razor Ramon to OJ's Goldust.
Blah blah blah... Rick's preview, vote, make your voice heard... blah blah blah.
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cardscott5
And I am AWESOME
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Dixie Carter is promising something huge tonight on impact.
/fingers crossed for a Nasty Boys return
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DKBroiler
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Luger?
Um...
As in Lex Luger? I seriously thought he died, and I'm not even joking.
The world no longer moves when Chuck Norris does push-ups because Tim Tebow pushes back.
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desjr001
And I am AWESOME
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Will Black Machismo hold Luger responsible for Elizabeth's tragic demise?
Dunt-dunt duhhhhhhhnt
Tune in tonight and see
Opinions are like assholes,
everybody's got one.
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theflammablemanimal
Man of a Thousand Holds
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quote:
Originally posted by desjr001
Will Black Machismo hold Luger responsible for Elizabeth's tragic demise?
Dunt-dunt duhhhhhhhnt
Tune in tonight and see
YES! Hilarity ensues.
It probably is for that Machismo challenge he's been doing.
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LuckyLopez
Reeks of WCW
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quote:
Originally posted by DKBroiler
Luger?
Um...
As in Lex Luger? I seriously thought he died, and I'm not even joking.
He suffered really bad spinal paralysis a few years ago that confined him to a quadriplegic state. Last I heard he was able to stand up for short
periods of time but was in terrible shape and had dropped down to like 150 lbs.
My guess is Hogan's gonna use him in some kind of "This is Your Life" with Sting. A few years back it was spoiled that Luger and Buff Bagwell
would be on Impact and everyone lost their minds. Then it turned out it was just like 10 second cameos in a Sting bit.
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desjr001
And I am AWESOME
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Oh man, Then will Sting dump him out of the wheelchair or beat him with his crutches for serious heat? Or could that backfire?
Opinions are like assholes,
everybody's got one.
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theflammablemanimal
Man of a Thousand Holds
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No, Sting will see his fallen friend and then cry that he has lost his way. He'll hug Lex, then turn to hug Hogan, but Luger will rise up out of
his chair and smash his crutches over Sting's head, leading to a beatdown and spraypainting.
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kafkonia
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quote:
Originally posted by desjr001
Oh man, Then will Sting dump him out of the wheelchair or beat him with his crutches for serious heat? Or could that backfire?
Maybe Luger will pretend to be on Sting's side, only to turn on him and join the Four Horsemen...
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cardscott5
And I am AWESOME
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Meltzer is saying that TNA is going to announce Impact is going back on Thursdays tonight. Jerking the show back and forth different timeslots is a
great idea. Giving up on Mondays after what, 2 months? is pretty rash.
Also, how do you post links? Is there something I'm missing on how to do that?
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angstboy
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"Ink Inc."? Ugh ugh.
Corner Kicked - a comic where Cory and Ziggy do inappropriate stuff to each other.
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kafkonia
rOOkie
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Thoughts:
Jay Lethal as the the Black Nature Boy was gold, but is this the end of the Black Machismo gimmick? I hope not. As much as I like Lethal in the ring,
the gimmick really gives him that extra something.
Team 3D running in to even the odds makes no sense considering that MCMG and Beer Money already have a match, but I guess if they have nothing else to
do it shouldn't surprise me. The tag team division is a weird mess right now.
There is no way the pull-apart brawl should have lasted that long. Hogan giving Wolfe a title shot also came out of nowhere, although at least Tenay
and Taz provided an explanation later on by mentioning the fan voting.
And hey, way to take Lethal out of the mix right off the bat. Although if the alternative was to wrestle Flair, maybe it's for the best.
Ink Inc? If they're going to be on tv, at least they'll be in the same segment. Of course, being a new tag team with no gravitas, they get
a shot at the tag titles currently held by a single individual -- this is an Eric Bischoff show. Is this the third or fourth title shot Shannon Moore
has gotten since he showed up?
Brian Kendrick is really being horribly underutilized. Admittedly, he didn't look all that good in there -- kids, say no to drugs!
Anderson/Pope is gold. Hardy vs. Anderson at the PPV could be hit or miss. I love Anderson, but I'm not 100% sold on his ability to keep Hardy
on message.
The Knockouts match is pretty miserable. The Beautiful People are good heels outside the ring, but... well, they can't really wrestle. The
double-DDT on Sereta was atrocious, and the rest wasn't much better. It didn't accomplish much of anything from a storyline perspective
either.
And... uh... Tara is not good on the mic.
Nash and Hall "sneaking" down to the ring was utterly pathetic. And of course Eric Young makes the nonsensical turn nobody was clamoring for. Kudos
on giving the Guns the chance to take out the Old Man Band, at least. If they were being handled better, Shelley and Sabin could be two of the top
faces in the company.
Now switching to real-time:
The O-Zone... Rob Terry looks a little stiff. Orlando's pants aren't doing him any favours, and he doesn't have the mic skills to
host an interview segment -- certainly not to carry it by himself. The real Rob Terry is one of the scariest-looking people I've ever seen. He
doesn't look entirely human. All that being said, this segment brought me back to the early 90s WWE and the days of Brother Love et al.
The pacing on the Monster's Ball match feels all wrong. Maybe because it's a free tv match? And another brass knuckle shot to the
monster's balls. Yowch. And poor AJ for landing palms-first on those tacks. Chelsea in a trenchcoat is more appealing than 3/4s of the WWE eye
candy.
Wolfe sells too intensely for strikes as loose RVD's, and the match was way too short for them to get anything going. Remember what I said about
shuffling Desmond Wolfe out of the main event mix? Yeah.
Sting/Hogan summit is the main event? Seriously? After a couple of good live shows, this one is starting to feel like a bad Nitro episode in terms of
structure. And if they don't hurry their asses up I'm going to miss the end because the new season of Canada's Worst Handyman starts
in five minutes.
Hogan: "Blah blah blah." Sting: "Blah blah blah."
Crappy ending to a middling show. 3 out of 5.
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southermagu
Rated R Superstar 
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Memo
From: TNA Managment
To: Desmond Wolfe
RE: TNA World Heavyweight Title Match
Fuck you.
Thanks,
TNA Management
God is Dead, because Nietzsche no sold his finisher.
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LuckyLopez
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Liked most of the non-wrestling stuff, especially the opening stuff with Lethal and Team Flair, but there was a bit too much of it. Liked the
wrestling, but there was a bit too little of it. Pacing was all fucked to hell. Wolfe vs RVD was fucking criminal.
2.4
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southermagu
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I'll only go as high as 2.0, which is a damn shame because they just set the wheels in motion to make Jay Lethal a major star.
Lethal taking those slaps from Flair and being genuinely apologetic until he went one step too far was fantastic.
I hated the "staggered face run in" bull crap but whatever, they had a point to make.
Everything was ok, even the Jordan/Terry segment. Jordan going what I can only call "optimistically spread eagled" was hilarious. It was all a
little wasted as they tried to sell him as a violent psychopath, though.
Two weeks in a row now Moore has been bearable. I'm not sure what he's taking at the moment, but it must be working. But Ink Inc?
MCMG deciding to go get some of Hall and Nash was nice too. I feel like it made them look dangerous which is as it should be.
But then that itself was ruined when you consider that Eric Young suddenly has no problems helping out The Band.
I knew they weren't going to pick up Snow, despite the fact that being "the fourth man" is his fucking gimmick.
Oh well, off to Thursdays again with the lot of them.
God is Dead, because Nietzsche no sold his finisher.
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TommyD420
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quote:
Originally posted by southermagu
they just set the wheels in motion to make Jay Lethal a major star.
I really hope it's a real push and not a one-off thing.
Lethal's still really young, IIRC, and has flashed potential in the past; but TNA tends to constantly lose him in the shuffle.
http://www.examiner.com/x-22126-Worcester-County-Progressive-Examiner
I write things. You should read them.
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austin_83
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As mentioned above, there are serious pacing issues on this show. It's still more watchable than Raw most nights, but come on, the opening
promo/beatdowns lasted literally a half hour. You just can't devote 1/4 of your show to that, especially when you still have Hogan/Sting,
RVD/Wolfe, and AJ/Abyss as the pillars of your episode. I know the opening set all of that up, but you just know they wanted more than 5 minutes each
for the "main events". A whole lot of buildup for 5 minutes of action doesn't really satisfy...just ask the girl I lost my virginity to in
junior high.
MCMG & Jay Lethal are Money. Money. If Hogan really wanted to help TNA, he'd transfer some TV time from himself (and that God-awful Abyss) to
them.
Anderson/Pope/Hardy was great, and has tremendous potential. "Take your dress off" chant made me chuckle, as did Speak into...the mic.
I won't shit on The Band/EY stuff just yet. This could turn into a fairly good vehicle for EY, and I could see the logic of "Nash beat some
sense into me" or an "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" thing. EY seemed to grow into his own as the World Elite leader. Maybe he
just needs to be in a group to be effective. Kinda like MC Ren from N.W.A.
I can't say anything bad about the Beautiful People, solely because I could watch Velvet Sky read a dictionary, and like it.
On a side note, why do Hogan and/or Bischoff keep arriving late/leaving early for the shows? Doesn't exactly set a great example for the troops,
does it? Are they subliminally trying to tell us they don't care about this show? Stop scheduling meetings during your only 2 hours on TV each
week, weirdos.
Bottom Line:
The Good: Lethal/Flair, MCMG, and Anderson
The Bad: Timing problems, giving RVD/Wolfe 5 minutes
The Ugly: Daniels and Kong are gone, but Abyss and Orlando Jordan are still gainfully employed. Huh?
3.0 this week.
[Edited on 5-4-2010 by austin_83]
Hey Yo
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southermagu
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Tommy, I'm right there with you in hoping they don't just forget about all of this.
Lethal has been doing this for almost 10 years now and is only 25 years old. He has as much potential as any wrestler on TNA or WWE's roster and
he still has room to grow.
TNA has been having trouble looking inside at their veteran talent and elevating them correctly. AJ is an exception and some might consider Pope an
exception, but as Lucky pointed out, Burke set the foundation for this character in WWE.
From what I've seen on this episode, however, it seems that TNA is attempting to combine their "homegrown" talent with people who have
experience elsewhere and that is definitely a good way to go.
If they follow through with a proper Lethal vs Team Flair feud, then they will have taken a joke character that the crowd loves and turned him into a
three dimensional character that the audience could really get behind in the long term.
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angstboy
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I'm not gonna "Lance Storm"-out here or anything, but TNA is starting to annoy the crap outta me. At first, I could justify the constant
shuffling around as "growing pains" but ending up in the exact same place they were in 2 months ago isn't "growth". It may be a learning
experience for TNA, but honestly I'm tired of getting jerked around as a fan. Construct a plan, research it, implement it and fucking STICK with
it. All of this throwing shit against the wall and see what sticks stuff is starting to get annoying. I just got comfortable with the Monday night
switch, and had planned a good deal of TV watching around catching Impact on Monday. But now my Thursday goes back to getting all fucked up, and
frankly, TNA is starting to drop down way low on my priority list. I'm okay with the direction of the company, and in general, I'm being
entertained by the product. I'm just getting sick of the non-air drama associated with the show.
The announcement of the Thursday move had me rolling my eyes throughout the show at the littlest thing, and by the last half hour, I was just hoping
to get to the end. In retrospect, the show didn't seem bad per say, it was just unfairly colored by the announcement of the strategic
retreat. It's really starting to seem like TNA doesn't know what the fuck they are doing because they have no idea what the fuck they are
trying to do.
I hope that when they move back to thursdays that they keep running the live shows, and maybe do nothing but live shows... but it'll more than
likely go back to the old pre-taped shit they were doing before.
Sigh. TNA: Cross the Line... then step back and cross the two lines behind you.
Corner Kicked - a comic where Cory and Ziggy do inappropriate stuff to each other.
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TownOfDalem
Undisputibed Champion
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I think what annoys me about TNA is how they consistently tease us with absolutely awesome things that never go anywhere. Wolfe/RVD and MCMG/Beer
Money being exhibit A1 and A2 last night. I think I enjoy Raw more because I know what Raw is for better or for worse but Impact lacks identity. It
is just all over the place and I know it could be much better.
"I think Tim Wakefield would even say tonight that Tim Wakefield got to Tim Wakefield tonight."
-- Tim McCarver
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gobbledygooker
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Holy crap that was the longest brawl to open a show I've seen in sometime. Once we hit the thirty-minute mark, I figured the rest of the show
would have to be pretty slap-dash; and it was.
Jay Lethal's mimic abilities are uncanny. I started laughing when he was repeating the "16-time!" "16-time!" "16-time!"
I think that was the most personality I've seen out of a Jeff Hardy promo..well...ever! The way his responses to Anderson were so quick and
snappy was great. The last part where he did the talking for Anderson was a little weird but you can't fault the guy for trying. I'm
kinda surprised they booked that match given his upcoming court date but I guess they can always re-insert Pope if needed. Speaking of which,
what's the rationale behind taking Pope out of the match? Is there something going on I don't know about?
So Eric Young has gone heel and joined The Band. Whatever, but does that mean Sixx Pac is officially gone? I also LOVED the MCMG's taking it
to Hall/Nash, as did the crowd. Hopefully someone wakes up and finally decides to push those guys.
Ink Inc., huh? Ugh...I agree with everyone else's lack of enthusiasm as far as that is concerned. Jesse Neal's Sonic The
Hedgehog-inspired "Running Mohawk Spikes To The Mid-Section" finisher is pretty original though.
I hadn't seen a TNA-trademarked ultra-abrupt ending in a while so it was good to see them get back to that during the main event segment.
Jarrett comes out to attack Sting, Hogan holds him back, and....that's it? WTF?
Originally posted by punkerhardcore -
"Seriously, Rock Band > Guitar Hero. Guitar Hero is like the cute girl who makes out with you for the first time, which is awesome because it's
new and exciting. Then Rock Band comes along and is like the chick who blows you your junior year of high school... and then that first girl just
doesn't look quite so fun anymore."
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LuckyLopez
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Pope is hurt. Nothing more to it than that. The eye patch is a gimmick, the arm sling is real. So TNA is letting Anderson write him out and keeping
the feud going until he gets healthy.
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DKBroiler
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I just watched TNA. Truthfully I was gonna give it a fairly high score because I enjoyed it, but after reading the posts here I kind of agreed with
most of the negative responses.
As an example, I enjoyed the tag triple threat, but then when I read how stupid Eric Young's turn was I reluctantly had to agree.
Eh... whatever. More Jay Lethal is good enough for me. That guy is gold.
3.2
Actually, I'm going with a .1 point deduction for Chelsea having clothes on under that coat.
3.1
[Edited on 5-4-2010 by DKBroiler]
The world no longer moves when Chuck Norris does push-ups because Tim Tebow pushes back.
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