gambit3
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posted on 5-4-2010 at 01:04 AM |
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TNA Impact! moving back to Thursdays
Announced in tonight's broadcast.
A tactical retreat?
[Edited on 5-4-2010 by gambit3]
They sold it as "listening to their audience"
Rewinding now to transcribe:
Tenay: ... and ladies and gentlemen, huge news, right off the top. Listen to this. Earlier today, TNA President Dixie Carter made hte following
announcement to the TNA roster: Based on the feedback that we have been receiving (ed. note: low ratings?) TNA has listened to the fans and is moving
impact back home to Thursday nights right here on Spike TV beginning May the 13th.
[Edited on 5-4-2010 by gambit3]
Oh Gen-Y, where to begin. You are all beautiful, special little snowflakes, and no one can tell you differently. You are spoiled little brats. Things
have been so good for you for so long, you are not going to have any idea how to deal when things turn to shit, and mommy and daddy can't bail
you out. And it's coming. I know, I know, I am a mean person, a "hater", for not presenting life as anything but rosy. Don't worry, you
are all special, beautiful little snowflakes, and I want to kiss you all on your precious little heads. All I ask is that you don't cry to me
when your H3 is repo'd when things go to hell.
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punkerhardcore
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posted on 5-4-2010 at 01:12 AM |
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I highly doubt it was their decision. Probably more like Spike deciding the experiment wasn't working out, and they were pulling in better
ratings on Mondays before TNA moved there.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
--MySpace makes me way cool too.
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gambit3
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posted on 5-4-2010 at 01:17 AM |
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O yeah. Never for a minute did I think that they did this out of their own volition.
Oh Gen-Y, where to begin. You are all beautiful, special little snowflakes, and no one can tell you differently. You are spoiled little brats. Things
have been so good for you for so long, you are not going to have any idea how to deal when things turn to shit, and mommy and daddy can't bail
you out. And it's coming. I know, I know, I am a mean person, a "hater", for not presenting life as anything but rosy. Don't worry, you
are all special, beautiful little snowflakes, and I want to kiss you all on your precious little heads. All I ask is that you don't cry to me
when your H3 is repo'd when things go to hell.
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LuckyLopez
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posted on 5-4-2010 at 01:19 AM |
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Its lame they tried to sell it as a win.
Its kind of retarded that Spike or TNA had so little patience with this whole thing.
In the end its probably for the best.
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punkerhardcore
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posted on 5-4-2010 at 01:21 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by LuckyLopez
Its lame they tried to sell it as a win.
I was actually just gonna ask what their reasoning was for the move back, or if they even gave one... Impact won't be on for me for a few hours
still.
Though it almost seems silly for them to even try to spin some kind of story to the audience, since everyone and their mother knows why they're
moving back.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
--MySpace makes me way cool too.
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gambit3
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posted on 5-4-2010 at 01:29 AM |
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They sold it as "listening to their audience"
Rewinding now to transcribe:
Tenay: ... and ladies and gentlemen, huge news, right off the top. Listen to this. Earlier today, TNA President Dixie Carter made hte following
announcement to the TNA roster: Based on the feedback that we have been receiving (ed. note: low ratings?) TNA has listened to the fans and is moving
impact back home to Thursday nights right here on Spike TV beginning May the 13th.
Oh Gen-Y, where to begin. You are all beautiful, special little snowflakes, and no one can tell you differently. You are spoiled little brats. Things
have been so good for you for so long, you are not going to have any idea how to deal when things turn to shit, and mommy and daddy can't bail
you out. And it's coming. I know, I know, I am a mean person, a "hater", for not presenting life as anything but rosy. Don't worry, you
are all special, beautiful little snowflakes, and I want to kiss you all on your precious little heads. All I ask is that you don't cry to me
when your H3 is repo'd when things go to hell.
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punkerhardcore
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posted on 5-4-2010 at 01:38 AM |
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Ah, thanks man.
Yeah, they probably should have had more patience with this... moving them back after just two months is basically admitting the entire thing was a
failure. On the other hand, can't really blame a network for making whatever decisions make the most fiscal sense for them.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
--MySpace makes me way cool too.
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LuckyLopez
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posted on 5-4-2010 at 01:46 AM |
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The whole thing is just silly. Did they NOT realize that their ratings would struggle against the established show much larger than them that runs
live every week? During its hottest time of the year? Did they NOT realize that when RAW went to 3 hours they'd lose their 8 PM edge and draw
a really crappy rating? I can't blame them for pulling out, but I can blame them for having a shitty battle plan going in. You either knew
this was coming and decided to give it a chance but changed your mind... or you didn't think it through in the first place.
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nOOb
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posted on 5-4-2010 at 03:10 AM |
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Well, this kinda sucks, because, on a personal level, this means tonight was the last professional wrestling show I'll watch until probably late
August (I'm on three softball teams that play Tuesday through Friday evenings, and my Thursday DVR schedule consists of taping far more
important shows like Community, Office, 30 Rock, and, for my parents, Bones and whatever the hell CBS has on at 8pm CST). On the plus side, I love
the fact that I have Mondays back completely to devote to 24 and video games for the next few weeks. On the negative side, this kinda seems like
Bubba is going to count this as a win.
Also, I kinda have to wonder how guys like RVD and Jeff Hardy (more RVD than Jeff, but still) are going to react to this. It is still a job and they
are still getting paid, but it is also pro wrestling and not a single person involved in it is the least bit normal, so I could see one of those guys
who signed on because they'd be competing with WWE getting pissed and suddenly decide to stop showing up.
Everything about this girl is awesome. She's hot, she got kicked out of school for sucking too many dicks, she takes it in the ass and her body
gives itself abortions. -Punker on Lilly Allen's Miscarriage
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DevilSoprano
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posted on 5-4-2010 at 03:22 AM |
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You can start DVR'ing TNA in a month at the worst. Most season finales are in May.
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cardscott5
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posted on 5-4-2010 at 03:24 AM |
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Like most of you, I don't understand the rush to change things back to the status quo. I guess this means no more live shows either? Their live
shows seemed to always rate higher than the taped shows off of memory. I guess going live every week was out of the question. Everything about the
Monday move proved to be terrible. They couldn't draw what they did on Thursdays, they wasted a lot of time and energy on a 2 month change, and
they gave up on it extremely quickly. 2 months is an incredibly small sample size. I would understand if they switched come August or so when Monday
Night Football started coming on again, but not now. When you make a gigantic move by going on Mondays, you either go all in, or you don't. They
chose not to, and I think it makes them look kinda second rate and like they are admitting their product isn't as good as Raw. Kudos for
realizing they made a mistake going to Mondays this quickly, but a wag of the finger for not being prepared for the move in the first place.
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austin_83
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posted on 5-4-2010 at 09:11 AM |
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I, for one, am pretty surprised about this. I would have thought Spike TV would have done a little research and realized that historical evidence
shows Impact would have needed at least several months to begin to grow a regular Monday night audience. And, that would have only been if the product
was good enough to attract more viewers.
This now looks like Spike and/or TNA has made a couple of misguided knee-jerk reactions to weekly ratings. They decided to move to Monday after a 1.5
on Jan. 4th despite WWE being in the WM lead up, and now, with ratings down to .5 last week, they make the switch back. It makes the network and the
company look silly.
There may be more to the story than this, however. Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan foolishly promised huge ratings, and fast, when they arrived, and I
think Spike drank the Kool-Aid. Also, Kevin Kay, the President of Spike was said to be very upset about timing issues on the show as well as the
Orlando Jordan angle, which Spike has monitored closely. I think the combination of those factors have soured Spike's view on just how much of
an audience Impact can deliver.
The shame here, at least in my opinion, is that TNA had seemed to get some legs underneath it lately storyline and talent-wise.
As for RVD & Jeff being upset, I can see why they would be if they were. But, I think they are more into the lighter work schedules than anything else
at this point, and may not care as much as main-eventers should. The ones who may be more upset are guys like AJ, Pope, and MCMG who may have been
hoping to showcase themselves in this new Monday Night War.
Man, this "war" lasted about as long as Desert Storm. Does that make Hogan Saddam Hussein?
Hey Yo
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gambit3
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posted on 5-4-2010 at 02:10 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by austin_83
Also, Kevin Kay, the President of Spike was said to be very upset about timing issues on the show as well as the Orlando Jordan angle, which Spike has
monitored closely.
Source?
Oh Gen-Y, where to begin. You are all beautiful, special little snowflakes, and no one can tell you differently. You are spoiled little brats. Things
have been so good for you for so long, you are not going to have any idea how to deal when things turn to shit, and mommy and daddy can't bail
you out. And it's coming. I know, I know, I am a mean person, a "hater", for not presenting life as anything but rosy. Don't worry, you
are all special, beautiful little snowflakes, and I want to kiss you all on your precious little heads. All I ask is that you don't cry to me
when your H3 is repo'd when things go to hell.
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DKBroiler
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posted on 5-4-2010 at 04:27 PM |
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Much like how I was giving Hogan kudos yesterday for knowing when to cut his losses with Bubba The Cum Sponge, this is probably a good idea in the
long run.
They clearly jumped the gun and probably were not wise in thier original move of doing this during the WWE's marquee season, but a "tactical
retreat" is probably a wise move now that the numbers have shown this not be be as much of a success as TNA had hoped for.
PS...
This has nothing to do with TNA, but goddamnit will people stop running on the field in Philly! The entire world already thinks we are mouth
breathing mongrels. Now we look even worse despite a cop actually doing his job. End rant.
The world no longer moves when Chuck Norris does push-ups because Tim Tebow pushes back.
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austin_83
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posted on 5-4-2010 at 07:31 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by gambit3
quote: Originally posted by austin_83
Also, Kevin Kay, the President of Spike was said to be very upset about timing issues on the show as well as the Orlando Jordan angle, which Spike has
monitored closely.
Source?
I can't remember specifically, but I think it was on rajah.com where I read that Spike was none too happy about the Orlando Jordan angle, hence
why so much of his debut was cut. It was just a guess as to why this change was made so quickly, since I can't believe Spike would really have
such a knee-jerk reaction to such a small sample of ratings.
[Edited on 5-4-2010 by austin_83]
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Gobshite
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posted on 5-5-2010 at 10:22 AM |
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Well they pushed the move through pretty quickly, and whatever it is they were showing in that timeslot was likely drawing 0.8's anyway, and
costing a lot less than TNA. I understand that Spike still contributes to the cost of TNA programming, and that the live shows cost more. So moving it
back saves money, and hopefully gives them back their 0.8 monday and 1.2 thursday rating, as opposed to a 0.5 and a 0.7.
Just in time for May Sweeps too - the next 6 months+ of ad revenue rests on the next three or four shows. They NEED as good a set of numbers as they
can get. If moving it back improves the numbers, its extra millions in ad revenue for spike. They can't afford two 0.5's ruining their
average this month.
Which just leads in to why this was a rushed (not necessarily bad, but rushed) move to begin with.
I'd love to see the 'pep talk' dixie gave the locker room this time.
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RockyTopWrestling
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posted on 5-6-2010 at 04:08 AM |
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Here's the thing... TNA should have built the move to Monday night, not come out of the gate with it. They had a lot of bugs to work out before
such a big move and such a huge change in direction. Now that most of the bugs are worked out, now this is the time they should have considered the
Monday night move. Istead what TNA has done is make themselves a year or two away from being real contenders to the WWE product. If TNA would ever try
the Monday night battle again, they would have to add a second show to Monday's.
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