Fifth Horseman
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| posted on 6-12-2010 at 04:37 AM |
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Daniel Bryan - released?
Don't mess with Michael Cole... he just got the proverbial future endeavored line.
For real?
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Chris Is Good517
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| posted on 6-12-2010 at 04:48 AM |
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What the hell are you talking about? Do you have a link?
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gobbledygooker
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Apparently not. I must understand what he says as truth then - Daniel Bryan has been released.
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Chris Is Good517
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| posted on 6-12-2010 at 04:51 AM |
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Fuck. Apparently so. Fuck.
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Bonestein
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Whoever wrote his Wiki thinks it's a work. Is that possible?
Kind of a weird time to release him.
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Matte
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Maybe it's something retarded like they released Daniel Bryan, but Bryan Danielson is here to stay!
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Chris Is Good517
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quote:
Originally posted by Matte
Maybe it's something retarded like they released Daniel Bryan, but Bryan Danielson is here to stay!
While we're being all wishful and shit, I'd really like a talking pony
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gobbledygooker
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quote:
Originally posted by Matte
Maybe it's something retarded like they released Daniel Bryan, but Bryan Danielson is here to stay!
Actually, I was seriously kinda thinking this too. God, I hope this is the case. If not, I'll look for him at a ROH event coming to my region
in the near future!
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the goon
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| posted on 6-12-2010 at 05:12 AM |
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Wow, um...huh? I don't get it.
Though if it's true, the cynic in me wants to think it's because he went too far in the NXT attack on Monday, since those are the two
parts that were edited from the replay.
My fake (but real!) band's MySpace
My solo project on MySpace, covering music from old NES games
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cardscott5
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This is a stunner. They had Bryan Danielson in parenthesis, so I doubt it's Daniel Bryan fired, Bryan Danielson is here now. I think Goon is
right about the Roberts attack being the reason. It was very much not PG. But, wouldn't that be the directors fault for choosing to go to that
image? Isn't like Danielson said show me do this while there were 7 other people doing things.
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Chris Is Good517
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If WWE fired him for that and Randy Orton still has a job after all the bullshit he's pulled, they're fucking stupid. But they've
fired people for less, so who knows.
I dunno, I'm 99% sure this is real because a) WWE has never tried to work us via the internet before when it comes to releases and b) "come to
terms with the release of" sounds a lot different than "has released" which makes it sound to me like maybe Danielson wanted out. But that
doesn't make much since because Danielson looked poised for a huge push.
Either way, I'm taking it at face value because there's no good reason not to. I'm not holding my breath that it's a work or
an angle. I'm extremely grumpy with WWE right now. Even if Danielson did want out.
EDIT: But now Meltzer is reporting that it's an angle. If anyone can make me believe, it's him. So now I don't know what the fuck to
think. Fuckers.
[Edited on 6-12-2010 by Chris Is Good517]
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the goon
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| posted on 6-12-2010 at 05:23 AM |
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Backing up CiG (taken from 411):
Danielson posted the following on his Twitter last night�
Just changed my twitter name to Bryan Danielson. The winds of change are stirring.
Dave Meltzer is reporting that the firing is a "fake" firing, and that this is the first time that they have used the website to fake fire
someone.
Okay, I really have no idea what to think. I don't get why they'd pull a fake firing angle in the midst of the big NXT angle, unless kind
of going back to my original post, the WWE says Bryan was too vicious and is "firing" him. Or maybe they see him as a star on his own and are doing
it to break him away from the NXT group. Who knows? I'm gonna go drink more beer now.
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C.MontgomeryPunk
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If they were going to release Danielson, the last image of him wouldn't be kicking Cena in the head and spitting on him. He would have been
brought to raw to be completely squashed next week and then endeavored.
What's with the Karate Kid? Mr. Myagi tells Daniel-san to whack off, and now Jackie Chan is telling Jaden Smith to Jack it off...
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gobbledygooker
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Well, I seriously believed that a group of eight men in their underwear jumped into the ring during a WWE heavyweight match and assaulted the WWE
heavyweight champion and anyone who dared to interfere. So I don't know what to believe.
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LuckyLopez
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quote:
Originally posted by C.MontgomeryPunk
If they were going to release Danielson, the last image of him wouldn't be kicking Cena in the head and spitting on him. He would have been
brought to raw to be completely squashed next week and then endeavored.
If they were going to release Kennedy, the last image of him wouldn't be standing tall after pinning the WWE Champion cleanly.
I have no idea if its legit or not. It sounds plausible. For the sake of argument he went off script Monday night spitting in Cena's face and
choking Roberts. This is why they were edited out in later showings. These aren't just minor over reaches, these are actual lines to cross.
Maybe WWE talks it over. Maybe WWE talks to Danielson to see if he's contrite or understands he needs to play by the rules. Maybe WWE spends
the week debating his value to the angle vs their belief they can count on him. Maybe Cena or Roberts pitch a fit. Maybe they release him in the
dead of night on Friday night to avoid a lot of talk, a technique businesses use all the time.
I dunno. It could be a work. I have no idea what the point of that would be. Yesterday I would have said I'm absolutely going to watch RAW on
Monday. Tomorrow if you tell me that I absolutely won't see Danielson then I might not watch RAW at all and my interest in this story will have
died considerably. And if you're trying to convince us he was fired why do it in the middle of the night on Friday when only the cynical
hardcores are reading? Why not Tuesday afternoon where we have all week to obsess and the news spreads? And if its kayfabe why was Daniels fired but
not the other 7?
So yeah, I have no idea. But if anything this is going to have the opposite effect on me because I'm all about getting into this NXT thing but
that WWE's not exactly stoking the flames of interest here.
He smiled.
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SeanSmythe
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The only reason I see Danielson fired, and not the rest (if its a work), because the instant the other where fired everyone would know it was a work.
Plus they can play up the Michael Cole beatings plus the choke out on Monday as Bryan going way to far and he was the scape goat so NXT rooks will
behave.
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste
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happy_buddha
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| posted on 6-12-2010 at 09:42 AM |
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Maybe this is a work and the reason they edited out the Justin Roberts choke was to keep him able to announce matches- if the kept showing it,
he'd have to sell it on Monday.
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LuckyLopez
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http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/8128.html
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Source: F4Wonline.com
- People in WWE, including the creative team, were told that Daniel Bryan (Bryan Danielson) was fired for choking ring announcer Justin Roberts with
his own tie during the NXT invasion angle on RAW this past Monday.
The shot was edited from replays of the angle and was described as being too violent for what WWE allows on it's programming.
For what it's worth, Danielson was described as the type of person you would want your locker room filled with.
http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/8132.html
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Source: F4Wonline.com
- As noted before, the reason being told for Daniel Bryan's release is because of him choking Justin Roberts with his own tie during the NXT
invasion angle on RAW.
Word is that someone very important complained to WWE officials about the angle with the idea that kids who were watching may think it's fun to
choke people with their ties. It's unknown who actually complained but it had to be someone with a lot of power.
Bryan is being described as a scapegoat. WWE does want to bring him back to the roster once the whole thing blows over.
I'm sure WWE saw no way to weather this since they had such a hard time getting past Chris Jericho punching a woman in the face on camera or
getting arrested, or Randy Orton being Randy Orton. And I'm sure there's some kind of explanation of why choking someone with their tie
is worse than hitting them with a sledgehammer because kids can't raise sledgehammers. But you'd think some sane business men could issue
apologies and avoid firing a talented employee and effectively killing a ton of interest in your hottest story in years.
Lucky's complete interest and total immersion in WWE storyline = 4 days
He smiled.
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DudeLove721
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If that's the reason he was released, it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. On SD they're trying to get Ziggler's
sleeper over as a bigtime move but God forbid the kids see someone being choked by a tie? This G-Rated WWE crap makes no sense, it's a show
predicated on violence to solve the characters' conflicts! Apparently the message to kids here is: It's cool to punch your friends, hit
them with sledge hammers and to fight some kid with a broken arm as long as you have yours tied up too. You can close a door on someone's arm,
breaking their shoulder, but God forbid you choke someone with their tie! *gasp*
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FistHiccups
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| posted on 6-12-2010 at 01:31 PM |
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If it is "a work" then it's a pretty stupid one. Daniel Bryan doesn't even have a storyline contract.
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Chris Is Good517
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| posted on 6-12-2010 at 01:46 PM |
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Jesus Christ, this just reeks of shortsightedness for all the reasons Lucky pointed out. If WWE wants to bring him back when all this "blows over",
what's the point in even firing him? Just suspend him for awhile. I just... Jesus. They want me to hate them, don't they?
Whatever. I've made my peace with it now. They'll hire him back in a few months, and I'll be happy, or they won't and
I'll get over it. Either way, he's just one guy and by himself isn't enough to make or break my interest in the big NXT storyline,
but I've already lost faith in WWE's ability to not fuck it up. And he himself made the decision to go off-script so I dunno. I can be mad
at WWE's hypocritical "rules" but I can't be mad at them because Danielson isn't bigger than the rules like Jericho and Orton are.
Hopefully we see him again in relative short order. My guess would be most of the vets will be pulling for him, and they've brought back guys
who have fucked up worse. And if they don't bring him back- or if his pride is hurt and he won't come back- at least we got a killer match
with Jericho out of it.
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drmuerto
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What Lucky and CiG said. Why would you want to hamstring one of the best executed angles in recent memory by taking out the most legitimate performer
in the group? Without Bryan you're left with Barrett and maybe Gabriel as legit wrestlers. The others, except Otunga, can pull off a beat-down
and someone like Sheffield might actually excel at that aspect of things, but this has to eventually end up in a wrestling match(-es), and you
absolutely need Bryan there to make it look competitive or you loose all the build-up right out of the gate.
The idea that he'd be brought back after a few months after things have "cooled off", is beyond counter-productive because it completely
negates the most interesting thing he's been a part of. "Cooling off" is exactly what you don't want from angles like this.
I'd also imagine that Bryan has the standard "no compete" clause to his contract, so we won't be seeing him in TNA soon either.
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Smurfs Urine
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| posted on 6-12-2010 at 02:52 PM |
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Sigh. I don't watch wrestling very much nowadays because I've long since been disenchanted with the product. I heard about the Danielson
and Cole exchange on NXT and checked it out on Youtube. Got me interested and I've been basically watching WWE just to see if Danielson shows up
- much like the early WCW/Scott Hall days when I'd tune in just to see if he'd pop up in the final segment of their show.
It was very surreal watching the ending of RAW last week. They had me hooked and I really had my eyes trained on Danielson in particular just to see
what he was doing.
So Lucky hit the nail on the head for me - the WWE completely killed what was IMHO one of their more entertaining angles in quite sometime in just
about 4 days.
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CreativeInternetAliass
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This is why I don't get marketing to kids. This angle has the potentiall to draw in plenty of eyeballs, but if they water it down to be kid
friendly they will lose the viewers they really need, teenagers. Kids don't have jobs, and parents have responsibilities. Teens have jobs and
still live at home, that's where the disposable income is at. If they really are interested in pulling in the bucks they should shoot for the
thirteen to nineteen demographic. Teenagers don't tend to stick around for the "kiddie shows".
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C.MontgomeryPunk
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Utter ridiculousness. Kids might think it's fun to choke people with their ties? Do kids who wear school uniforms wear clip on ties or real
ones? Also shouldn't the same kids think it fun to punch people in the face and punt them in the head from watching wwe?
Admittedly it did look brutal, but that is what I remembered most from the whole thing. The wwe has used cords from cameras to choke wrestlers and
even attempt to hang them.
If anything, I think this is more Benoit fall-out combined with Linda McMahon's senate run. Mostly Linda's senate run, which means Bryan
is on the sidelines for four months until she gets blown out by Blumenthal.
He should just go to TNA and be introduced as "too extreme for the wwe".
[Edited on 6-12-2010 by C.MontgomeryPunk]
What's with the Karate Kid? Mr. Myagi tells Daniel-san to whack off, and now Jackie Chan is telling Jaden Smith to Jack it off...
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