OORick
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OOfficial Ratings/Discussion Thread for: SmackDown (August 26, 2011)
OO Nation: All discussion pertaining to SmackDown (airing August 26, 2011) should be done in this thread. It will remain pinned at the top of
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Tonight on SmackDown: Bret Hart will be on hand as the Guest General Manager, as SD is taped in Calgary... he'll have a few rulings with
regards to tonight's show, but also make decisions that affect next Tuesday's special live edition of SD... Bret will go so far as to
claim that the live SD was his idea, instead of the brainstorm of WWE and SyFy, who didn't want to tank a week of ratings because people are too
busy having Labor Day Fun... but regardless, it means some decent stuff on tonight's show, and a compelling amount of build up to Tuesday, as
well...
First among Bret's duties: dealing with the return of Christian (who was conveniently absent last week, so that Mark Henry could become the new
#1 Contender)... while Henry's #1 Contender status is re-confirmed, Bret will grant that Christian has an obligatory return match due to him, so
he grants it on Tuesday's show... it'll be Orton vs. Christian in a Steel Cage Match; gotta love the Free-per-View, baby... meantime, for
tonight, Christian must do battle with a personal favorite of Bret's: Daniel Bryan (the two are said to have a good match)...
Other stuff: the main event will be #1 Contender Mark Henry vs. Sheamus, also made by Bret after the two interrupted a promo of his... on the
undercard is a match where Randy Orton takes on Junior DiBiase in a match that is prefaced by a Cody Rhodes promo (about rebuilding the prestige of
the IC Title), and followed by an Orton promo (about how he's sick and tired of beating Christian and can't believe he has to wrestle him
again)... Sin Cara will face Heath Slater in a match that was so bad the first time, they had to re-tape it (as this was the "real" Sin Cara's
first taping back from suspension, I'm curious if the re-do is really him, or if they had the replacement Sin Cara go do it for him)... Zeke
Jackson will take on Khali... Kelly Kelly grants Tamina a non-title match... and Wade Barrett will be "in action," kind of...
The flOOr is yours, OO Nation. Let your voice be heard and your thoughts on Brand Supremacy be known. Don't wait till after 10pm to post,
either. Pre-show previewing and prognosticating is certainly welcome. So discuss, debate, and rate!
"He's from Mars, Officer; whiskey does not affect alien beings."
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cardscott5
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Word going around is that it was the new Sin Cara, and apparently he's the permanent Sin Cara, as the old one was sent home from SD. Allegedly.
Visit my site: www.BearcatsBlog.com. Pretend to care.
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Gobshite
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I'd read that too - the mask must be cursed (or hard to see out of)...
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OORick
You and what army?
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FWIW, the "real" Sin Cara did the last round of house shows (his 30 days were up last Wednesday). The fact that they've semi-hinted (on
commentary) that there's something different-y about Sin Cara lately makes me feel like we're ultimately supposed to be able to tell the
difference...
Rick
"He's from Mars, Officer; whiskey does not affect alien beings."
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Gobshite
The Rowdy One
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Semi Hinted? All Booker T could do last week was talk about the "extra muscle" Sin Cara had added while he was away. He must have mentioned it at
least five times, five times, five times, five times, five times.
Oh HALE no....
To think that Regal is on NXT and he's on Smackdown makes me sad.
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knuckleballschwartz
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quote:
Originally posted by Gobshite
Semi Hinted? All Booker T could do last week was talk about the "extra muscle" Sin Cara had added while he was away. He must have mentioned it at
least five times, five times, five times, five times, five times.
Oh HALE no....
To think that Regal is on NXT and he's on Smackdown makes me sad.
This.
A couple of good matches (henry/sheamus was as good as it's gonna get from those two and bryan/christian was excellent). booker and cole were
both awful.
Am I the only one to think K2 may have started playing up the barbie-esque diva attributes a bit more since the Divas of doom appeared? More
stinkfaces, ass-slaps and so on, even more ridiculous hair and a slightly heelish moveset in the ring of late?
Also a noticeable "Henry" chant at the end of the main event...
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Frank Lloyd Wright
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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Does anyone know what the chant was during the Kelly Kelly/Tamina match? I would like to think it was "Tamina's a man", but I don't
believe that was the case.
Great match by Bryan/Christian and a decent effort by Henry/Sheamus in the ME. Found Wade Barrett's promo interesting. Don't know what
it means exactly, but interesting nevertheless.
I have two ambitions in life: one is to drink every pub dry, the other is to sleep with every woman on earth -- Oliver Reed
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diablo_dor
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Strange episode, we now have Christians Lawyers to thank for MArk Henry getting a PPV title shot has anyone checked that he isn't represented by
Wolfram & Hart?
Brett wants to ensure there is no question of Christian having issue with the match so he books a cage match, cos they NEVER end screwy!
Remember when people expected Dibiase to be the break out guy from Legacy? How long ago was that?
Sin Cara Duo still isn't completely working for me & I'm not certain what it is, I am interested in the match with ADR next week
though.
I understand it's WWE wrestling & wins & losses don't matter that much, but I'm starting to fear they are going down the NXT Season
1 route with Daniel Bryan again, he keeps fighting but losing, am I the only one who caught some dismissive commentary, not just the usual Cole
blather?
Why wasn't Zack on Zackdown with brett, he'd have DEFINITELY dressed as Neidhart for the visual!!
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C.MontgomeryPunk
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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I know it's a "if a tree falls..." scenario but Bryan did beat McIntrye on Superstars this week. The match was better than Christian vs Bryan
actually and worth checking out.
He is jobbing more than I'd like, but he's losing to the current WWE Champion, a former World Champion (or the vice versa). I guess he
could have beat Wade Barrett, or at least got a win back.
I remember Eddie Guerrero.
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diablo_dor
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quote:
Originally posted by C.MontgomeryPunk
I know it's a "if a tree falls..." scenario but Bryan did beat McIntrye on Superstars this week. The match was better than Christian vs Bryan
actually and worth checking out.
He is jobbing more than I'd like, but he's losing to the current WWE Champion, a former World Champion (or the vice versa). I guess he
could have beat Wade Barrett, or at least got a win back.
I get that the opponents "need" the win more and it's always going to be the case that the guy who makes others look good will be used to aid
those who need a push but it was the way Cole claimed last week something about imagine if ADR had to tap to someone LIKE daniel, and the way he was
putting down Dragon last night was really like they were going with another loser gimmick with D-Brian.
Of course Miz had to lose his US title before cashing in, ADR jobbed clean to Punk before Summerslam & all other MitB winners had moments of less than
stellar push but it was the way they went about last night that worried me.
I also would like to point out that clean wins are always a good idea, even for a heel!
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Flash
Man of a Thousand Holds
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That's kinda the problem with burying guys on commentary, just like we also saw Lawler do to Otunga and McGuilicutty this week as well (maybe
worse there because they were the actual tag champs at the time, so the belts were also disparaged);
If you bury them that badly then the other guy looks bad for losing to someone who is said to suck that badly, and if he beats him well then its not
really a big deal because he was a nobody anyway.
Its funny, the WWE goes to such lengths to instill this idea that being a "WWE Superstat" is this monumental thing (and it is), but then they treat
some guys publicly like shit so it underminds the whole "Superstar" branding, as afterall how great of thing can it be if they let ______________
in.
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JB KING
 
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In case anyone missed it
Two time Winner for 2010 Breakthrough Poster of the Year Award. You read that right.
XBL Gamertag: JB KING
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cloak and dagger
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quote:
Originally posted by diablo_dor
I get that the opponents "need" the win more and it's always going to be the case that the guy who makes others look good will be used to aid
those who need a push but it was the way Cole claimed last week something about imagine if ADR had to tap to someone LIKE daniel, and the way he was
putting down Dragon last night was really like they were going with another loser gimmick with D-Brian.
Of course Miz had to lose his US title before cashing in, ADR jobbed clean to Punk before Summerslam & all other MitB winners had moments of less than
stellar push but it was the way they went about last night that worried me.
I also would like to point out that clean wins are always a good idea, even for a heel!
It seems to me like it's losses that help Daniel Bryan more than they hurt. Leading up to this current "losing streak", he spent the last few
matches beating up on legit midcard / upper midcard talent in Heath Slater, Cody Rhodes, and Wade Barrett. With his MitB briefcase and string of
decent feuds, they've stepped him up to be fodder for the top card guys.
The thing is, it doesn't feel like he's going to be fodder when he comes out. In all of his losing matches, it feels like he has a legit
chance to win and deliver a shocker. I don't EXPECT Bryan to go over the current WWE champ, but if he did? I'd be surprised for a second,
then say something like "I knew he had it in him.". He has the feel of an upper midcarder taking on talent he's ALMOST ready for, but not
quite yet. The MitB briefcase gives him some of that main event level rub.
I hate his generic new theme music though.
"...and everything I touch, shall wither and die."
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Chris Is Good517
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I think the sweet video package that Daniel Bryan got is a good sign that they aren't burying him.
Gee, I wish I was still alive- LuckyLopez R.I.P.
Bachmann: "I haven't had a gaffe... when it comes to the best Republican who take
on Barack Obama and not have any clunker in my record to be able to take him on, it's me."
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C.MontgomeryPunk
Man of a Thousand Holds
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Bryan is basically going to be the new Chris Benoit. He'll be an upper card guy used to make others look good, but isn't good enough on
the mic to ever be a top guy. He'll get a couple title runs once he is more grizzled and veteran.
I wish Cole would knock his shit off, but I assume it's coming from Vince himself in his ear piece.
Only way this would stop is if Bryan kicked some muscleheads ass backstage so Vince could see him as a tough guy and not a geek vegan. Bryan is too
laid back for that to happen.
I remember Eddie Guerrero.
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mark markham
M4M - Looking 2 Meet Texan 5
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Brett was looking really old...almost Flair level old....at least in my eyes.
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the goon
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Last night's show wasn't bad, but I think the specter of Orton/Henry is casting a black cloud over Smackdown for me.
Bret, God bless him, isn't that good on the mic anymore but I think he works in sporadic appearances like this. Christian did a good job of
carrying the segment and it was fun to see those two in the ring together. And during the Henry/Bret exchange, it was kind of a mindfuck to think that
Henry was around in the WWE at a time when Bret was still an active wrestler.
And while Orton/Christian in a cage match definitely has the potential to deliver quality-wise, it's just going to be Christian jobbing to Orton
for the millionth time. I would almost say Christian had a shot at regaining the world title if not for the fact they ruined it by saying Mark Henry
gets the winner of the match.
Really good match between Christian/Bryan, though those two could probably sleepwalk to a good match with each other. I agree with the sentiment that
while Bryan has been jobbing lately, it's always been in hard-fought matches against top name opponents. Besides, there's still like seven
months between now and WrestleMania, so there's any number of things that could happen between now and then.
I'm interested in where the whole thing with Wade Barrett refusing to wrestle the jobber is going. I'd love to see him back in the main
event picture, so maybe this is a start. Though it's too bad his feud with Daniel Bryan already seems to be done.
I'd be curious to see the original Sin Cara/Slater botchfest, because the match that aired was kinda fun for what it was. It was a little odd
that Sin Cara won with a lionsault though.
Orton/Dibiase started kind of slow, but I thought got pretty solid by the end. Dibiase actually got to look pretty competitive against Orton, which
was good. And I still think there Orton/Rhodes could be a good feud and I'd take it over Orton/Henry.
Speaking of Cody, I like the angle that he's trying to bring some prestige back to the IC title.
Kelly Kelly/Tamina match wasn't anything we haven't seen a hundred times in a two-mintue Divas match. I'm glad Tamina switched up
her ring gear though, because that skirt ensemble she had going on didn't really work for her.
I thought both the IWC and OO would collapse by having a Khali/Ezekiel Jackson match. Zeke getting Khali in the torture rack was impressive, but I
guess if Cena was able to give Khali an AA, it's not too surprising.
Main event was okay, but I just think I become instantly bored when Mark Henry is in the ring. I will fully admit that he's doing well with his
current gimmick and this is probably the most tolerable I've found him ever, but I just think I'm conditioned to fall asleep when
he's in the ring.
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knuckleballschwartz
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quote:
Originally posted by C.MontgomeryPunk
I wish Cole would knock his shit off, but I assume it's coming from Vince himself in his ear piece.
Only way this would stop is if Bryan kicked some muscleheads ass backstage so Vince could see him as a tough guy and not a geek vegan. Bryan is too
laid back for that to happen.
I was interested to hear Stanford ask Grisham what Michael Cole's issue with Daniel Bryan on Superstars. Stanford's question suggested he
though Cole was a dick about it but Grisham no-sold it as a personality clash or something. I do worry this nerd thing will end up as a feud.
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theflammablemanimal
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I thought Cole was actually very restrained during the Bryan match. He said something about wishing he had charisma, but at least he wasn't
yelling about him being a nerd or saying he didn't deserve to fight Christian. He seemed to be giving Bryan a lot of credit. In fact, other than
yelling at Booker/Matthews that Christian was right (which he was), Cole was inoffensive.
Surprised that Barrett seems to have moved on from Bryan. I thought for sure the ppv win would lead to him challenging for the briefcase.
Glad to see Slater.get squashed.
What is the point of cutting a promo in a foreign language? If that's the only way you can get heel heat, you suck.
Did Matthews really say Rhodes mask is hideous?
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Get the pistons pumping and let the pigeons loose on my yambag
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SpiNNeR72
And I am AWESOME
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^^ Regarding Cole/Bryan - has everyone forgotten the history here?
If Cole *didn't* say anything about him being a geek etc etc it would be a complete break of character!
Personally I think Bryan is one of WWE's few "safe" performers. He can fit in anywhere in the roster, get decent/good matches out of just
about anyone, is extremely unlikely to get into any trouble outside the ring and so why rush anything...
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denverpunk
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quote:
Originally posted by theflammablemanimal
I thought Cole was actually very restrained during the Bryan match. He said something about wishing he had charisma, but at least he wasn't
yelling about him being a nerd or saying he didn't deserve to fight Christian. He seemed to be giving Bryan a lot of credit. In fact, other than
yelling at Booker/Matthews that Christian was right (which he was), Cole was inoffensive.
Definitely. He had it toned down today and was actually complimenting Bryan, albeit grudgingly. Unfortunately, this was ruined by Booker bleating
"OH MY GYOOODNESS" everytime something happened. I found that annoying as hell, and I like Booker.
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gimmickless
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I think Dok Hendrix had a B-side recorded in the vault just waiting for the right time. There's no other way Heath Slater could get an
effective ring song so quickly.
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theflammablemanimal
The Man
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When Heath Slater's titantron shows that slow motion shot of him waving his hair, does anyone else get reminded of close ups of the dude's
face during the money shot of a porno flick?
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Jumbie
And I am AWESOME
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quote:
Originally posted by theflammablemanimal
When Heath Slater's titantron shows that slow motion shot of him waving his hair, does anyone else get reminded of close ups of the dude's
face during the money shot of a porno flick?
Not sure about you or others, but I'm not usually paying attention to the guy's FACE in a porno.
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SpiNNeR72
And I am AWESOME
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^^ Not only that, but I've seen my fair share of porn and can't ever recal seeing a guys face during a money shot. Indeed by convention
the money shot is the girls chance to show her face.
Unless.... Well, ok, each to their own and all that. 
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