OORick
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OOfficial Ratings/Discussion Thread for: RAW (September 12, 2011)
OO Nation: All discussion pertaining to RAW (airing September 12, 2011) should be done in this thread. It will remain pinned at the top of the
Current Events section for the remainder of the week. In discussing the program, we'd love it if you shared your numerical rating for
the show (from a low of 0.0 to a high of 5.0, in any increment of one-tenth of a point). For full details on the ratings scale and how to join in on
this informal "Battle of the Brands," please be sure to check out the OOfficial
Guidelines for TV Ratings/Discussion Threads.
Tonight on RAW: once again, nothing has been officially announced as of this writing, but with a PPV coming up this weekend, you can probably
make decent guesses as to what's on tap...
CM Punk vs. Triple H seems to be overshadowing the WWE Title picture, and after last week's added stipulations, I'm pretty much OK with
that... the No DQ stip means they'll be able to have a hell of an entertaining brawl on Sunday, and the "If HHH loses, he's no longer the
COO" stip gives Punk's character some genuine motivation... instead of talking about "making things fun again," he's got a REAL chance
to affect the quality of the product now that he can remove a "doofus" from power simply by beating him in a wrestling match... and wrestling is the
thing that Punk's the best in the world at, right?... the only catch: who's to say the new COO would be any less of a doofus than HHH? Or
is Punk dedicated to keep on screwing with whoever's in charge, until he gets leadership he can agree with?...
Wild card: Kevin Nash... they've "fired" him (for TV storyline purposes), but the mere fact that they had him ride off into the sunset with
Johnny Ace last week means that we've not seen the last of Big Sexy... I have little doubt he'll have more to say about the Punk/HHH feud,
and that he'll say it before 11pm (eastern) on Sunday night...
RAW's other main issue will be Alberto del Rio trying to soften up John Cena before Cena's title shot on Sunday's Night of Champions
PPV... last week's attempt to assemble a cross-brand alliance of Cena Haters didn't work out so well, so perhaps del Rio will make a more
personal effort to undermine Cena this week... it'd certainly be a welcome touch to a feud that still seems to have been randomly generated, and
which lacks any real drama...
Other RAW stuff: last week, Miz and R-Truth issued a challenge to Air Boom, and then (using logic that only Truth could fathom) accepted a challenge
issued by Air Boom, so now those four will be having a tag title match at the PPV, and it should be quite excellent; it could still use a little icing
on the cake in terms of build-up tonight, though... it's looking more and more like US Champ Dolph Ziggler is being paired off against Jack
Swagger, especially after last week's elimination match where Swagger got all the elims and upstaged Ziggler, leading to late match tension
between the two; I don't necessarily endorse a match between two heels where the valet at ringside will have more heat than the two of them
combined, but we'll see how things develop tonight... women's champ Kelly Kelly has a date with destiny, it seems; or at least,
she'll have to defend the title against Beth Phoenix on Sunday; I'm sure their paths will cross again tonight in some fashion (possibly
involving Natalya and/or Eve)... Zack Ryder was the beneficiary of Jerry Lawler's "feud" with NotNexus last week, so hopefully WWE'll
keep building on that tonight... and along similar lines, it'll be interesting to see if last week's battalion of D-lister who got their
first TV time in months last Monday will be back, if it leads to anything, or if it was just a bizarre one-week aberration that saw Drew McIntyre,
Curt Hawkins, and Tyler Recks all having cameos on the A-show...
Standard Caveat Now That These Are All "Supershows": a handful of SmackDown guys (and/or girls) will be peppered into tonight's show... a week
before a PPV, you can probably expect them to be the usual suspects: Mark Henry and Randy Orton, Christian and Sheamus, and possibly Sin Cara and Dan
Bryan (if they view the "fake" Sin Cara storyline/heel turn as big enough to deserve the cross-over exposure from RAW)... a week before a PPV called
"Night of Champions" and IC Champ Cody Rhodes STILL has no #1 Contender despite his claim that he's bringing prestige back to the IC Title, so
hopefully they'll get on that, and it'll be something good (as opposed to Cody's still-uninspired/affected/floptastic promo work
about paper bags)... and a possible wild card (or 3) regarding SD cross-overs: tomorrow's SD taping in Toronto is being advertised as a special
"Edge Appreciation Night" in his hometown, and Edge, Bret Hart, and Trish Stratus are all going to be there... what would stop one or more of them
from showing up tonight, if a decent reason could be concocted?
The flOOr is yours, OO Nation. Let your voice be heard and your thoughts on Brand Supremacy be known. Don't wait till after 11pm to post,
either. Pre-show previewing and prognosticating is certainly welcome. So discuss, debate, and rate!
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SeanSmythe
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Ninja Please, quote of the year.
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste
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G-Spot
And I am AWESOME
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Okay...So Alex Riley posts something scandalous on his Twitter about Melina, then has to tag with John Morrison...AND he gets the pin/win!
Now that's ballsy!
**Edited because the Twitter post may have been faked, so you can disregard the above...but still kinda ballsy from the WWE to book it!**
[Edited on 9-13-2011 by G-Spot]
"G-Spot rocks the g-spot!!!
**Ghandi (Clone High)**
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chewey
And I am AWESOME 
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I had been thinking for weeks that Michael McGillicutty was so freakishly tanned that he appeared only a couple shades lighter than his partner,
Otunga, but his tan stuck out even more tonight when he was in the ring with Sheamus.
"Don't matter how many times you get burnt, you just keep doin' the same."
--Bodie, HBO's The Wire
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DevilSoprano
Pee Wee's Plaything 
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What did Riley say?
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G-Spot
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quote:
Originally posted by DevilSoprano
What did Riley say?
It's explained here...
http://www.oowrestling.com/OOForums/viewthread.php?tid=24302&page;=12
...and also noted it's probably a fake account.
"G-Spot rocks the g-spot!!!
**Ghandi (Clone High)**
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Flash
Man of a Thousand Holds
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Didn't know where else to stick this, and don't know if its been mentioned on TV or not yet (I've downloaded last weeks raw but
haven't watched it yet), but it looks like the Rock being at Survivor series is now a done deal as WWE.com has got a graphic up of him and Cena
stating that the show has already sold out.
In between now and then we have NOC, HITC, and Vengeance, so I'm assuming the WWE will want to have an advanced announced Rock appearance be a
good spot for new/returning fans to jump onto the various storylines, so I would expect that this will be the rough time frame for what we're
dealing with now storywise.
Given how tepid and un-emotional Cena versus ADR has been I think its pretty safe to assume we'll ramp things up for HITC, which I'm
hoping will be the finish between these two, or at least post HITC a reason for Punk and his fight against the powers that be to take a brief hiatus
and see him set his sights on getting his belt back (maybe a three way at Vengeance?), even if he ultimately loses against ADR thanks to some PTB
chickanery.
You know, its been bumpy and not as great as I think some of their stories could have been, but just kind of blocking out the year it almost looks
like they have a plan this time around and maybe even reverse engineered from their finishing point like they used to many years ago as after Survivor
Series we've got TLC in December which given the historical low viewings thanks to the holliday cash crunch and other activities could serve as
a nice breather before January kicks off the Rumble and the Road to Wrestlemania.
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BC
Man of a Thousand Holds
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Okay, seriously, FUCK YOU WWE for pimping yourself about a show two days after 9/11. Sickening.
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mooseheadjack
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just for the record, in the year 2011, Jerry Lawler and Bret Hart both won matches on RAW.
This has been a total shit episode of RAW so far. Remember when we thought WWE was turning a corner and going to be interesting? Good times.
- The History of the OOWF: Archives at: www.oowfwrestling.com
- And Moose, seriously, shut the fuck up. - DSop
- Fuck you Moose. The worst part about it is that you are right. I fucking hate when you're right. - Metallikid
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the goon
Sister Act
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quote:
Originally posted by mooseheadjack
just for the record, in the year 2011, Jerry Lawler and Bret Hart both won matches on RAW.
Yeah, and they were teamed up with Sheamus and Cena respectively, in one match that featured two glorified jobbers and one that featured a ring
announcer as a participant (in Bret's home country). Let's at least put it a little bit in perspective.
As for the show tonight, I caught it on a very off and on basis due to the New England/Miami game having major fantasy implications for me (damn you
Tom Brady, you magnificent bastard, for helping me win), but it didn't seem like anything special. Just the usual "play it safe" go-home show
that we've seen many times in the past.
Though I will say the Punk/Triple H segment got really good during the last five minutes or so. Punk had a couple of awesome lines during the segment,
but I really liked the "This isn't CM Punk talking to Triple H...this is Phil Brooks talking to Paul Levesque" one. You really get the sense
those two don't like each other, which makes for good TV. I really think they're trying to replicate the "order it to see what happens!"
vibe from MITB, and it is kind of tempting...but no.
Also: does anyone know when the last time was that Randy Orton lost a match 100% clean? I'm curious to know.
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mooseheadjack
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They still got wins, which is inexcusable for ANY fed these days.
Also, it wasn't really clean, Cody hit him with his face guard
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the goon
Sister Act
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quote:
Originally posted by mooseheadjack
They still got wins, which is inexcusable for ANY fed these days.
I don't know, if Bret or Lawler had won on their own cleanly, then yeah. But I'm willing to let the occasional "person who
shouldn't be wrestling teamed up with a mega-babyface victory" slide, especially on occasions like Bret being in Canada or whatever. Maybe two
in one night is a little much, but I still don't think you could compare tonight's matches compared to if Bret or Lawler had won a
one-on-one contest completely clean tonight.
quote:
Originally posted by mooseheadjack Also, it wasn't really clean, Cody hit him with his face guard
Oh yeah, I know, that's why I was asking when the last time was that Orton actually lost a match clean, since he took a rare one on one pin
tonight (but not cleanly). And I wouldn't even count stuff like his Iron Man match with Cena...I'm more looking for him straight-up losing
a one on one match totally clean.
Nash is only a few inches bigger than JBL and depending on how stiff he gets Punk should be able to take it. -JB King, meant in a totally non-sexual
way
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OORick
You and what army?
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quote:
Originally posted by BC
Okay, seriously, FUCK YOU WWE for pimping yourself about a show two days after 9/11. Sickening.
There's probably stuff to complain about from tonight's show, but to me, this was none of it.
But I say that while acknowledging that it's a sliding scale, and I can only compare WWE against what the rest of the media did the past week.
Some of which was utterly pointless, and some of which was genuinely awful, and fuck 92% of the people in charge of broadcast and cable networks for
mishandling things so badly. But my memories of 9/11 actually do include what WWE did on 9/13, so if WWE wants to pat themselves on that back for
their contribution to that days-long collective-consciousness "event," so be it.
Still: if I'd been putting together the video package, I'd have had less Vince and JBL, and more Lilian Garcia....
About the show: nothing special, in my opinion... Cena/del Rio did not get the attention it needed, and as such, will not get the attention it needs
to be "PPV-worthy" on Sunday, if my guess is right.... but I will go out on a limb and say this was the second "win" in a row for Punk/HHH in
terms of latching onto some sense of purpose and gravitas after the last-second Nash pull-out... this match really is ABOUT SOMETHING now that Punk
can use his best-in-world wrestling skillz to oust HHH, and continue on his quest to "make things fun again" in HHH's absence... and better
yet, I'll risk my own Internet Wanker Card by saying that HHH was really, really good on the stick tonight, and might even have won that
exchange on "points" thanks to his late rally with the "we're going in circles, let's talk about why I want to fight you and why you
want to fight me" gambit... I liked that, and thought it brought the promo back up to the proper boiling point before they did the "Phil vs. Paul"
mic-outage.
Rick
"He's from Mars, Officer; whiskey does not affect alien beings."
-- Venus Flytrap speaking on The Rick
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diablo_dor
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Smackdown better have the Survivor Series moment edited into the video package.
Please tell me we are not supposed to worry who switched off the mic?
Because the mystery of the Text was so amazing.
This was one of those palatte cleansing shows that "entertain" the crowd and normally happen during a long stretch between PPVs this was just
completely wrongly judged for the last shot before the big show, especially with the Cena - ADR feud, they really haven't treated him like a
threat since that first week when he got to look like they were FINALLY building a heel world champion who wins. Maybe the fact that Mark Henry is
getting built up at the same time is the reason they have completely blown this feud but I get the feeling Del Rio scurries away with the title in the
most unsatisfactory circumstances.
The HHH-Punk end was interesting, if once again they are trying to rewrite history wih the HHH claim that Punk is now only getting over and Punk not
once bringing up any of the guys who have gotten over (Ryder, Santino hell don't forget Cabanas WWE.com viewing figures) or even mention how for
most of the last few years he's been a heel, this is without ever bringing up the fact that Taker squashed his heat when Punk was majorly over
as a world champ.
I think the fact that Punk was trying to have a conversation whilst HHH got to cut a Wrestling Promo maybe what skewers the perception.
About 9/11 package, I'm not American but that was the first time a large group of people were allowed to congregate, they had to get signed off
by the governor at the time. This was before the last 10 years & no one knew what might happen. I'd have shown more Lillian as well but thank
christ they ignored Stephs promo!!
[Edited on 9-13-2011 by diablo_dor]
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Doug Almighty
Creepy Little Bastard
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Don�t want to have to harp on about this again. But...
Whenever 4 or more people squabble in the ring, particularly any even number of people, I always cringe in anticipation. As I have learnt to expect to
see an authority figure �surprisingly� create a tag match out of the situation...
Involving someone like Bret Hart in that formula (someone who is clearly in no condition to wrestle) just makes it seem even more insulting and crappy
IMO. So, the opening segment of this week's Raw was just head-shakingly shit to me.
Anyway! I guess it�s time to give up on the idea of a Punk-inspired �different� era?! Remember when that seemed like a genuine possibility?! As I�ve
said all the way along, this stuff is more or less EXACTLY THE SAME (minus the bits where Punk complains about the unsatisfactory nature of certain
things) so certainly isn�t what I was hoping for. It�s undeniably THE SAME in terms of formula, writing, formatting and production etc. So, like, who
cares and shit?! Same flavour, same aftertaste.
For now, I am (perhaps foolishly) holding onto the idea that there is at least some sort of �under the radar� storyline going on. One which will take
more shape in the coming weeks/months. But wow! The stuff that actually IS on the radar is damn samey and unexciting (not counting the bits where Punk
complains about what is on the radar, obviously)...
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Frank Lloyd Wright
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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I give credit to the WWE for the build up of Mark Henry, since his heel turn a few months ago. His continuing destruction of Orton, post match, leads
you to believe that that fat son of a bitch might actually take the title! Then reality hits, and you realize it's Mark Henry we are talking
about and that Orton will destroy him at Night of Champions.
Even though it wasn't a clean win, I like the fact the Cody went over on Orton, considering he lost clean to him on Smackdown last week. Based
on how his character has evolved, I'm sure he won't let us forget that he beat the World Champion.
I know the show was in Canada and all, but Bret Hart has no business being anywhere near a ring, not to mention a microphone.
Thought the HHH/Punk promo was OK, but felt it got a bit repetitive around the 10 minute mark. I do give them credit for cutting the mic when they
did. When Punk mentioned "Phil vs. Paul", it grabbed my attention once more.
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MbahABako
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Am I the only one who:
(1) Loved the "this is Phil talking to Paul" part
and
(2) Saw ANOTHER hint about evil Punk with the grin he gave after flattening HHH with the microphone?
How quickly do we forget what happened last time Punk blasted someone with a microphone? Here's an update: it was the true catalyst towards his
heel turn when he plastered Jeff Hardy with it after a match.
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blackdragon
The Great One 
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That's easily one of my favorite turns. Just come out say "you know Jeff," then popped him in the head with the mic. Sweet and to the point.
No turning on him in a tag match after wrestling for fifteen minutes, no ten minute promo, just call out the dude's name and drop him.
A ho fucks everybody. A bitch fucks everybody but you.
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Froggie
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quote:
Originally posted by Doug Almighty
Involving someone like Bret Hart in that formula (someone who is clearly in no condition to wrestle) just makes it seem even more insulting and crappy
IMO. So, the opening segment of this week's Raw was just head-shakingly shit to me.
I'd have to disagree with the Bret Hart bit. Now last year before SummerSlam when Team WWE introduced Bret Hart as the newest member of their
five man team who would battle The Nexus in a five-on-five elimination match, no one brought up his stroke condition! In the ring, his stroke
condition was completely ignored...what they said was that pro-wrestling legend Bret "The Hitman" Hart would be a part of the team where he spent
the majority of his career and he would be a huge force (which he was...obviously he couldn't take any bumps because of his condition but he was
in great shape and all of his offense looked sharp).
I think it was the same type of thing with RAW tonight! I didn't watch the show but I would assume its the same kind of thing. John Cena
didn't say "The 54 year old stroke victim Bret Hart will be in action tonight!" I'm sure they presented Bret as a pro-wrestling legend
who would be a huge force which is how it should be. And Bret looks light years younger than many others his age so its not a hard thing to do
"...Best There Ever Will Be!!"
-When WWE jobbed first time WWE World Heavyweight Champion Christian out to Randy Orton and turned him heel when he (Christian) was arguably the most
over babyface on the roster and having great matches with everyone on the card, it was at that exact moment that WWE jumped the shark!!
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JMD
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Here in Canada, the Score (the network that airs Raw) runs a 15 minute filler/recap show beforehand called "Countdown to Raw", with a generic host
who talks you through some video clips. This week, Edge was there as a guest host, and at the end they mentioned he'd definitely be on
Smackdown, and then had the following exchange.
Host: "So, can we expect any interaction between you and your old friend Christian?"
Edge: "Well, I've never been the type of guy to be an instigator (smirks), but if he comes to me I'd say it's a good
possibility."
It may be sad, but that countdown show was the most exciting part of Raw to me. And it's not even part of Raw.
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williamssl
Steers and Queers 
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That was the most heelish vibe I've felt from Punk to date under this current persona.
The "business" portion of his promo w/ HHH ...he came across whiney..or rather I felt HHH did a very effective job of neutralizing what Punk was
saying and throwing it back on Punk.
The "personal" portion...well it ended with the blindside mic to the head and the smirk.
I'm not saying Punk is turning at all - hell, right know I don't think they could turn him even if they tried.
And please WWE....let's have PPV matches set and locked prior to there being less than a week before the PPV. US Title resolved it self finally
last night. Guess we'll have to wait for SD to see who Cody's facing.
[Edited on 9-13-2011 by williamssl]
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C.MontgomeryPunk
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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The Punk/HHH stuff is way too insider, to the point of exposing the business level talking about not getting over or not getting pushed. And Punk is
running around calling the show garbage and wanting to change it for the better but nothing is changing, and then HHH is burying arguably their
hottest star not to months ago for being nothing special and a midcard act who whines about not getting pushed.
So why should I watch the show that Punk is rightly saying sucks, or care about Punk who HHH completely neutralized/buried on the mic?
Only thing that would save this would be to book Punk as the complete mastermind.
At the PPV, Kevin Nash takes out HHH giving CM Punk the win. John Laryngitis is names the new COO. Punk opens the show with Nash in the ring as his
bodyguard/muscle - they even do the HBK/Nash pose. Punk explains everything. How he got Vince McMahon removed, and now got HHH removed from COO.
How he hatched this plan months ago, went to Johnny Ace and had him bought in because he knew that Johnny Ace was a lot like Punk, never given a fair
shot in America, and was hired on by Vince to just kiss his ass. So now Punk has an "ace up his sleeve". But more than that brought back Big
Daddy Cool, to have Nash take him out at the PPV and cost him his title because he had bigger plans and being a former MITB winner himself he know it
was only a matter of time, so did it to set things in motion. He had people believing HHH and Nash were in cahoots and never considered Punk would
cost himself the title. This lured HHH back into the ring from his office job and put his COO job on the line. Punk brags about getting rid of HHH
by using his best friend to do it. He then tells a story about a man and a snake, and as Nash is listening it's sort of dawning on him that he
is the man and Punk is the snake. Punk used Nash to get HHH, to break up the faction that put HHH into the position he is in, that made HBK the top
guy etc. But Nash has little use to Punk now, he's old and broke down and yesterdays news. Before Nash has a chance to react he's jumped
from behind by Colt, Hero and Castagnoli, and along with Punk they completely decimate him. Full stretcher job level - nobody would make the save
because nobody likes Nash.
So McMahon is out, HHH is out, Clique is broken, Ace in control (and in Punk's back pocket) and Punk back as a heel, has a new faction to run
roughshod with. The faction will be Horsemen-esque, together for years without much inner turmoil. Johnny Ace could even fill the JJ Dillon role in
some respects.
I remember Eddie Guerrero.
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williamssl
Steers and Queers
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Sold.
What alternate universe channel will your storyline be on so I can set my DVR to record that?
Don't Mess With Texas
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salmonjunkie
American Dream 
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quote:
Originally posted by C.MontgomeryPunk
Only thing that would save this would be to book Punk as the complete mastermind.
At the PPV, Kevin Nash takes out HHH giving CM Punk the win. John Laryngitis is names the new COO. Punk opens the show with Nash in the ring as his
bodyguard/muscle - they even do the HBK/Nash pose. Punk explains everything. How he got Vince McMahon removed, and now got HHH removed from COO.
How he hatched this plan months ago, went to Johnny Ace and had him bought in because he knew that Johnny Ace was a lot like Punk, never given a fair
shot in America, and was hired on by Vince to just kiss his ass. So now Punk has an "ace up his sleeve". But more than that brought back Big
Daddy Cool, to have Nash take him out at the PPV and cost him his title because he had bigger plans and being a former MITB winner himself he know it
was only a matter of time, so did it to set things in motion. He had people believing HHH and Nash were in cahoots and never considered Punk would
cost himself the title. This lured HHH back into the ring from his office job and put his COO job on the line. Punk brags about getting rid of HHH
by using his best friend to do it. He then tells a story about a man and a snake, and as Nash is listening it's sort of dawning on him that he
is the man and Punk is the snake. Punk used Nash to get HHH, to break up the faction that put HHH into the position he is in, that made HBK the top
guy etc. But Nash has little use to Punk now, he's old and broke down and yesterdays news. Before Nash has a chance to react he's jumped
from behind by Colt, Hero and Castagnoli, and along with Punk they completely decimate him. Full stretcher job level - nobody would make the save
because nobody likes Nash.
So McMahon is out, HHH is out, Clique is broken, Ace in control (and in Punk's back pocket) and Punk back as a heel, has a new faction to run
roughshod with. The faction will be Horsemen-esque, together for years without much inner turmoil. Johnny Ace could even fill the JJ Dillon role in
some respects.
I'm sad that this won't happen. This is excellent.
[Edited on 9-13-2011 by salmonjunkie]
Personally, I think he�s a [freaking homosexual].
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southermagu
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You put Sheamus on the other side of that "modern" Horseman stable occupying the same role as Sting and money would probably just leap out of
people's wallets.
Apparently Amanda Bynes and Charlie Sheen are related, because she's full of the same kind of
crazy.
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