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Author: Subject: OOfficial Ratings/Discussion Thread for: Impact Wrestling (September 15, 2011)
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posted on 9-16-2011 at 12:09 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
OOfficial Ratings/Discussion Thread for: Impact Wrestling (September 15, 2011)

Tara/Tessmacher/Devon/Pope vs. Sarita/Rosita/Hernandez/Anarquia

Velvet Sky vs. Angelina Love w/ Winter

Matt Morgan vs. Samoa Joe

BFG Series winner Robert Roode vs. fellow Fortune member Kazarian

Handicap Match
Jerry Lynn & Bully Ray vs. Mr. Anderson

and the main event...



If Sting wins, he gets Hogan at BFG. If Sting loses, he must retire.



Also featuring: Angle, Immortal, Fortune, etc.





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Nice to see they remembered Kaz was a member of Fortune after he vanished the last 2 months.

I'm sure everyone has heard what was reported about the Sting/Flair match. I'm interested to see how it plays out on tv.

Not a fan of repeat matches the show after a ppv, but hopefully Joe and Morgan pull out the kind of quality match they had at the show.





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Just a question - why is it any more ridiculous that Jerry Lawler or Bret Hart won matches on Raw, when Ric Flair v Sting is tonight's main event?

I think neither are ridiculous and both part of running episodic plots (whether they are good/bad or one likes them or not is another story) ... and people needs to keep their fingers off the trigger finger ... but just seemed incongruous to me.





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Just a question - why is it any more ridiculous that Jerry Lawler or Bret Hart won matches on Raw, when Ric Flair v Sting is tonight's main event?


It's not, and I don't think I've seen anyone say it is. Everyone who shits on the old-timers wrestling in WWE shits on them wrestling in TNA just as much. There's just less discussion of TNA on these boards, so it doesn't come up as much or get argued over as much.





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I thought the show was rather good. Roode and Kaz put on a very good match, although I wish it were a few minutes longer. By ref distraction or not, Joe actually won a match. Why he couldn't have just won at the ppv, I don't know. AJ ripping into Hardy was also very sweet.

Flair and Sting surprised me by not being terribly awful. I can't believe Flair didn't bleed. Props to him taking the superplex. The editing issues looked to be at the beginning of the match. Sting went from pristine face paint to ruined. Then on the slap before the commercial, he went from messed up, to flawless on the hit, to messed up after.

The only 3 things that bothered me were

1) I thought Roode should have been built up a little more. If you didn't buy him as #1 contender going into tonight, you still don't.

2) Winter nailing Angelina with the title in front of the ref should have been a DQ. I mean, come on.

3) Anderson was on the show.

3) No really, the main event was either a no DQ match, or it was a DQ match where the ref ignored the rules when everyone ran in. 38 people hit the ring, the ref does nothing, yet Hogan and Flair were sneaking around with the brass knucks. Either everything is legal, or everything is illegal.

Overall, a better show than the build up to No Surrender. I hope they hit the road to BFG hard.





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1) I thought Roode should have been built up a little more. If you didn't buy him as #1 contender going into tonight, you still don't.



I actually thought they did a pretty good job with that. He was basically felated and put over by all the other Fortune members, all of them saying that they think he could beat Kurt Angle. Then he beat Kaz a very good, competitive match. I don't know, I think that if you never saw Roode as a guy with skills who deserved a huge push in the future, then you won't buy him as the #1 Contender just yet, but I always did, so our opinions may differ there. I was concerned that he wasn't getting any build prior to No Surrender, but this week did its job in that regard. And having Roode beat all the Fortune members in good matches like this one every week, will go a long way to solidifying him even more. Although I guess one of the Fortune guys will get the win just to set things up in the title picture after Bound For Glory. Roode has the look though, and the ring and mic skills. Plus, realistically he looks like he could plow through old man Angle with ease.

I thought all things world title picture related were the highlights of the show. I hated Sting/Flair though. That match was an embarrassment. Flair looked like he was about to have a heart attack any minute. It was almost scary to watch him.

I don't see how Hogan/Sting wont be a contender for worst match of the year at this point. No matter how much they dress it up, it going to be a train wreck. Its a shame this has probably been the longest-built TNA feud ever. (almost 2 years?) Sting deserves better, although I'm sick of him too. Its ironic how the top 2 feuds differ so much in just about every aspect. On one hand I'm seeing Roode get a proper push going into a match with Kurt Angle for the title, and on the other hand we have to suffer through Cripple Hogan vs Sting 14 YEARS after it was interesting for the last time.

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The difference between Lawyer/Bret's matches and the Sting/Flair (and now sting/Hogan) is that those WWE matches are meaningless 5 minute matches, and the TNA matches are pitched as omg dream matches that get main events, ton of build up and tons of time. Also, in the WWE matches, the old guys tagged with a a young guy who did all the work.

And the amazing thing was that sting/flair was more territory le than expected thanks to another super old guy. Come on Hebner. At least pretend you don't see these things going on? What the fuck was happening there? And it wasn't no dq because tenay at least pretended Hebner wasn't staring right at Sting for that low blow.

Roode's build hasn't been good. This fortune angke should help, but theyre really overplaying the mental aspect. Like Roode would expect any of Fortune to lay down for him instead of tying to get a shot at a title.





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