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American Horror Story
As scary movie fan (though not a horror buff by any means) this show really managed to creep me the fuck out and keep my attention for an hour.
I'll be tuning in for more. I guess Walking Dead won't be the only scary show on my viewing schedule for a few weeks at least (I'm
not sure how long American Horror Story is slated to run but it looks like the first story arc, at least, will be four episodes, judging by
imdb.com?)
Anyway, thoughts?
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Interesting. I appreciate how fucked up it's willing to be, though I think maybe they're really trying too hard with it, to the point that
there's no single character who you'd call "normal", and the characterisation is a bit too "extreme". Most forced being either the
baseball bat wielding, disabled girl threating "I hate trees!" twins or the "eat the cigarette or I'll beat the shit out of you"
coke-snorting girl(btw, how did the daughter know about that? Unless when she was talking about it during that first scene to her friends she was
doing it loud enough for the dozens of people around to hear her). There's also a bit of disconnectedness to some of the stuff going on, feeling
unfocused, like when the daughter sees the dad with the housekeeper, and rather than logically following on with the dad talking to the daughter about
it, or telling the housekeeper it never happened or whatever, it cuts to the daughter at school, then the dad talking to his wife about something
unrelated, and its never brought up again. Also, the housekeeper herself is a suitably creepy idea, but it seems WAY too reliant on the dad and wife
just happening to no mention how old/young she is to each other. I mean, the very first scene we see that difference, the wife asks why he's
surprised she wants to hire her, all it would have taken was him saying "well, she's a skimpily dressed sexy young maid. Are you really okay
with that?" to totally ruin everything that came later.
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gobbledygooker
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Damn good points all-around Stu, and it really jogged my memory on a few questions I had about it.
- Going back to the "normal" thing, I found it a bit odd that the dad (who's a psychiatrist) would see a patient who's a boy with major
suicidal/homicidal tendencies and who is the same age as his daughter in his home office, a few feet away from where his daughter lives.
- This may have been my own lack of paying attention, but I was trying to figure out what exactly the timeline of everything was. There was the very
beginning with the two twin boys that looked like it was from the 70s. Then you had the burned guy who used to live in the house and tried to burn it
down after killing his family (which, going by his age, I assume happened after the boys from the 70s). But the house currently has no sign of fire
damage.
- Your comments about the maid were dead on. I was wondering that too. I just chalked it up to "If they mentioned it to each other, there would be
no show."
- Regarding your comment about them trying too hard with the fucked-up-edness, I can see where you're coming from with that too. I kinda got a
vibe where it's like the creators watched "The Walking Dead" last year and were like "Holy shit, we can get away with this stuff?!
Let's cram all of that and more into a show!"
Regardless, I did enjoy the hour. And they've managed to make a "gimp" costume scary again.
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quote:
- Going back to the "normal" thing, I found it a bit odd that the dad (who's a psychiatrist) would see a patient who's a boy with
major suicidal/homicidal tendencies and who is the same age as his daughter in his home office, a few feet away from where his daughter lives.
Yeah, their friendship seemed to develop a bit too quickly, especially almost completely offscreen. I mean the first time they meet, he's giving
her suicide tips. Then there's the scene with him telling her dad (while she listens) that he's worried the medication will make him
impotent, because he's met someone(clearly her), but she's only freaked out by him after what happens in the basement?
I wonder if it just all felt a bit much because it was the pilot and they were trying to grab people with all the different subplots and characters
they could use, and it'll be more evened out as a series proper. Zachary Quinto's going to appear in the series as one of the former
owners of the house too. I also liked Denis O'Hare as the burn victim guy, and Charles Rennie Mackintosh font FTW.
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quote:
Originally posted by gobbledygooker
- This may have been my own lack of paying attention, but I was trying to figure out what exactly the timeline of everything was. There was the very
beginning with the two twin boys that looked like it was from the 70s. Then you had the burned guy who used to live in the house and tried to burn it
down after killing his family (which, going by his age, I assume happened after the boys from the 70s). But the house currently has no sign of fire
damage.
There was a bumper before the first scene with the twins that said it was 1978... then another that said today before the wife was at her gyno
appointment.
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gobbledygooker
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So when did the fire happen?
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When that burned up guy killed his wife and daughters. Pay attention.
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gobbledygooker
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Will you come over and watch it with me next week and maybe hold my hand during the scary parts?
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quote:
Originally posted by gobbledygooker
So when did the fire happen?
I'd assume the twins die in 78. House stays abandoned for a while. Then the guy and his family move in, he burns them up within 6 months he
said. House stays abandoned for a while again. The gay couple buys the house. And the realtor even said they put a lot of time into restoring the
house so assume they were there for a while before they went insane.
And with regards to the timeline, I'm assuming they're not telling us specifics because they want to keep it vague but I'm thinking
it's not happening all within a week. I would actually guess the pilot was a good 6 months from start to finish.
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It's kinda weird, because, after watching it, I was left with no impression other than "I guess I have to watch next week to know whether or
not I like this". And I feel like that's exactly what I should feel with a show like this. I wasn't really scared at all (you knew when
those twins were dying...though I did not expect the dog to make it through the episode), but the story seems to be where it needs to be for episode
one, so they definitely have my attention for episode 2.
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gives itself abortions. -Punker on Lilly Allen's Miscarriage
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I missed the premiere episode, so I DVR-ed a repeat showing and watched it and the new episode back to back tonight. I gotta say that I'm
generally liking the series so far, but I do agree with some of the issues/criticisms that have been brought up in this thread. And as a guy who
doesn't watch a whole lot of TV series, I'm pretty surprised by what all they can get away with in American Horror Story. Maybe if I
watched stuff like Breaking Bad, Nip/Tuck, Sons Of Anarachy, etc I wouldn't be so surprised. Either way, I'll be tuning in for the third
episode next week.
And maybe it's kinda obvious, but I'm calling it right now: in addition to the retarded woman, the old/young maid, the crazy blonde kid,
and the young stud guy are all Constance's (Jessica Lange's character) children. Yes, the same young stud guy she appeared to be about to
fuck. Because it's that kind of show.
I'm also betting it was either him or the crazy blonde kid that was in the gimp costume and knocked up the wife (though probably more likely the
former than the latter).
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gobbledygooker
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Despite some continued minor inconsistencies, I"m still thorughly enjoying this show. The main items that bothered me last night were:
1. What are the odds that three wannabe psycho serial killers would pick that house and put that mom and daughter through hell? Other than the fact
that you could just say that house is like a magnet for fucked up shit.
2. The mom and especially the daughter both seemed to bounce back pretty quick from being held hostage and almost murdered. By the end of the
episode when the daughter was like "Hey mom, you were pretty tough." I was like "Really?!" Like a 14-year-old would just shake that off and head
up to bed after a night of absolute terror?
3. The continued pattern of people just walking into their house whenever they feel like it and the parents' continued apparent lack of concern
at this. If I lived in a house and had issues with my neighbors just walking in at all hours of the night, I would be taking some action to remedy
that situation.
These things aside, I thought they progressed things very nicely last night. I like how they put the blonde boy with Jessica Lange, so that at least
explains his involvement. Jessica Lange, by the way, is KILLING it on this show. She is awesome.
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Stu
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quote:
Originally posted by gobbledygooker
1. What are the odds that three wannabe psycho serial killers would pick that house and put that mom and daughter through hell? Other than the fact
that you could just say that house is like a magnet for fucked up shit.
I thought the house is the same one the original murders happened in in the flashback? So it's only contrived in the timing. I like that the one
who said "maybe I just have a fear of being cut in half" got an axe right to the midsection.
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2. The mom and especially the daughter both seemed to bounce back pretty quick from being held hostage and almost murdered. By the end of the
episode when the daughter was like "Hey mom, you were pretty tough." I was like "Really?!" Like a 14-year-old would just shake that off and head
up to bed after a night of absolute terror?
To be fair, this is the same daughter who once she reveals she knows her mother is pregnant, just starts to say hurtfull things to her, including
upsetting statistics about pregnancy difficulties for women in the forties. Her mother who had a miscarriage not too long ago, keep in mind.
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3. The continued pattern of people just walking into their house whenever they feel like it and the parents' continued apparent lack of
concern at this. If I lived in a house and had issues with my neighbors just walking in at all hours of the night, I would be taking some action to
remedy that situation.
Also the general tendency for people be openly rude or intimidating. An alternative title for the show would be American Cockbags, because nearly
every character seems to be one and it's just brushed off.
"Is everyone crazy?"
I dunno, you tell me, you're the psychiatrist!
quote:
These things aside, I thought they progressed things very nicely last night. I like how they put the blonde boy with Jessica Lange, so that at
least explains his involvement. Jessica Lange, by the way, is KILLING it on this show. She is awesome.
Yeah, she's good, but it seems a bit convenient again how if that's the case, then it was her he was talking to on the phone, and also
he's been treating this kid and hasn't had a face to face consultation with his parents to discuss the matter at all?
[Edited on 13-10-11 by Stu]
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gobbledygooker
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RE: The wannabe murderers picking their house.
The detectives said that the trio was planning on going around to houses in the L.A. area where famous murders happened so it would've have just
been random who's house they wound up at and when. It was just convenient for the plot that they picked the house where people are getting
attacked by demons in the basement and there's a maid that could be old and ugly or young and hot.
RE: The mom and the daughter shaking off their trauma
I agree with your point but I still think they both acted a bit too "Eh, just another day." Especially when they had a woman who had just taken an
axe to the stomach trail blood all along their upstairs hallway wall. That could be a bitch to clean.
And speaking of the axe to the stomach, that's where I was really glad they tied the blonde boy in with the neighbors because when he did that I
was like "Really?! This kid who supposedly just has mental problems is now murdering people?" But his revealed alignment explains that. There are
bigger issues going on there than just mental.
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gobbledygooker
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Wow. That whole episode was basically every guy's worst nightmare, even without the supernatural shit.
So we now know that the maid is hot as shit for all guys.
Is it wrong that I've been enjoying this show more than I enjoyed the first episode of "Walking Dead?"
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Stu
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So the maid was drugging him because during his blackouts she could make him start to dig her body up, and was hiding the tape recorder to stop him
from realising stuff was happening during the time he couldn't remember? Nice, though possibly a bit confusing since in the pilot he was
suffering a similar thing where he was sleepwalking.
Also more weird disjointedness with the mother running off suddenly from that tour into the house, like she was urgently trying to do something, then
cutting straight to a doctor's appointment.
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I liked how you found out why Moira has the fucked up eye.
And Ben has amazing restraint... show of hands-- how many of you could resist sticking it in, if you had a maid who looked like that, doing all the
stuff she does? It was pretty hilarious seeing him screaming about her sexuality and Vivian looking on like he was a lunatic.
Obviously Hayden was gonna die, since she was a crazy bitch... but I figured Ben was gonna be the one to kill her during one his blackouts. I
wasn't expecting burnface to swoop out of nowhere to be the hero.
[Edited on 10-21-2011 by punkerhardcore]
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gobbledygooker
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Yeah, Burnface guy wacking her with a shovel was a nice "Oh shit!" moment.
And I think the house's abortions-gone-wrong past is a good twist, especially given the mom's current pregnancy. Who knows what kind of
fucked up shit is going to take place.
And I have my hand raised in response to Punker's question.
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You're a better man than I am, then.
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gobbledygooker
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I misread the question. I meant my hand is down. Around my genitalia. As I think of what I would do with the maid.
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Let me just post two facts here:
1. This show was created by Ryan Murphy.
2. This show was created by Brad Falchuk.
Those names might not mean a lot to you, but they mean a lot more if we go (spoooooooooky) into their past and look what they've created....
1. Nip/Tuck, a show that started out kind of weird and then turned into a dumbass soap opera that didn't even make sense.
2. Glee, a dumbass soap opera that doesnt even make fucking sense at all even in season two, but there's singing. It's for dumbasses.
Keep watching for the hot maid bitch to masturbate more. That's a reason to watch. But this show will not make sense, it won't turn out to
have a point, it will keep adding characters again and again, and you will wind up hating yourself for giving a shit. These guys are masters at adding
thread after thread to a story and then totally forgetting about it, backtracking on characters, flipping personalities around and not even
remembering what people were like in a previous episode. I want it to be good, because good horror rules, but it's already started doing this.
(Instead of having her arrested for slashing her face, the schoolgirl who kept trying to beat up the daughter now trusts her as a confidante?
Really?) It will end up with a plot like a burrito you didn't remember ordering while fucked up.
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quote:
Originally posted by Stu
Also more weird disjointedness with the mother running off suddenly from that tour into the house, like she was urgently trying to do something, then
cutting straight to a doctor's appointment.
That's because, when the tour got to their house, she looked down and saw bleeding from her vagina that was staining her pants.
The wife and I just got done watching the first four (or was it five?) episodes. We're still not sure how we feel about the show. It's
definitely interesting, but I'm not sure if I actually care about any of the characters.
Best part of the show? My wife, when looking at the young Moira, said that if we found a maid that looked like that, we could keep her. But only if
we shared her. BOO.YAH.
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Nice work.
I got caught up on Halloween's part 1 and 2 in the last couple of days. I'm still loving this show and here are some things that
surprised me/fucked with me -
- So we're (or at least I'm) thinking that Constance's whole brood is a merry band of ghosts until poor Addy gets creamed by a car
and seems to be killed.
- Is Hayden dead? Is she not? I thought it was her ghost at the beginning of the episode. Then I thought it wasn't once she kinda acted
mortal (since she was kinda acting like a pregnant woman who had just taken a shovel to the face would act). Then she disappeared from the security
officer's car so I'm assuming she was a ghost afterall (which would explain the well-timed phone calls, the writing in the steamed-up
mirror, etc.)
- Good explanation about the abomination that is inhabiting the basement. My wife happened to catch the scene with the doctor sewing what looked like
a deer's leg onto what was presumably a human baby's body and gave the appropriate "WTF?!" reaction.
- I'm still not convinced that, with all the fucked up things that have happened, that this family would just keep perservering in this fucked
up house. I guess the explanation the show wants to give is that they're all becoming increasingly unhinged. However, I had to laugh outloud
when Vivien and Ben were at the hospital and an apparently-insane adult male (Larry) was banging on the door of their house and screaming about money
while young Violet was home alone and Ben's sage advice when Violet called him in a panic was "Keep the door shut, honey. Is the door locked?
Just keep it shut!" Father of the year.
- When the hell did the family get a dog? Is there something I missed? Wouldn't this dog have been going insane during the other home
invasions that have been taking place this season? The addition of the dog kinda threw me for a loop.
I hope the above don't sound too much like complaints because I've really been enjoying this show and it's been picked up for season
2! I, for one, will keep watching.
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Don't read too much into the Halloween interactions with the dead- they specifically said that it was the one day the ghosts could walk free.
That's why Sylar's bf went straight (ha!) for the sexing and pregnant mistress disappeared from the cop car...
What do Sherri Martel and George Clooney have in common?
They both got screwed by Stacy Keibler.
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quote:
Originally posted by gobbledygooker
- Is Hayden dead? Is she not? I thought it was her ghost at the beginning of the episode. Then I thought it wasn't once she kinda acted
mortal (since she was kinda acting like a pregnant woman who had just taken a shovel to the face would act). Then she disappeared from the security
officer's car so I'm assuming she was a ghost afterall (which would explain the well-timed phone calls, the writing in the steamed-up
mirror, etc.)
There was also that part when Hayden was in the basement with Ben, and coughed up a bloody chunk of something and said, "I'm rotting from the
inside." Then yelled at him for burying her under the gazebo.
All that time I'd assumed Ben's thing with Hayden was just the one night stand, shown in that first episode when Vivian caught them...
and then you find out he'd carried on the affair for a while after that. No wonder he tried extra hard to cover up the pregnancy.
So is Tate supposed to be dead? That group of students confronted him, because he supposedly killed them, and the one girl mentioned that she'd
be 34 by now if not for what he'd done... they showed few quick flashes of him that looked like a school shooting, so if he'd done that to
her, that would put the event going down in the mid-90s. But he hasn't aged. Maybe he's in some kinda living limbo like that maid or
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