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posted on 10-11-2011 at 07:47 PM
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He's getting added to the roster of the new WWE video game
quote:"It's one of those things where� it's part of my history. Without the WWE, I probably wouldn't be where I am today," Lesnar
told me via e-mail. "I wouldn't have the high visibility, I wouldn't have had the leverage to come into the UFC. I would have had to do
it all on my own. I'm no idiot when I say that when I was with the WWE, the visibility from that company and what they did on a global network
for 'Brock Lesnar' as a whole, put me on another level."
quote:Of course, being in WWE '12 begs the obvious question - would Lesnar ever consider returning to WWE programming? "It would have to be
under the right circumstances," Lesnar said. "I don't know if Mr. McMahon and I could come to the right circumstances. If it was good for me
and good for him I think that we could do something. At the end of the day, my life, my character and my profession - I take them very seriously. At
the end of the day, if it doesn't help me or my family out, and it doesn't make sense for me to do, then I don't do it. Everything
would have to fall in the right place, but would I consider it? Absolutely."
Lesnar noted there is one former WWE superstar who could easily lure him back to the ring - 'Stone Cold' Steve Austin. "[Austin]
chicken-sh**ted out on me and walked away and didn't want to participate because he thought that I was getting something too fast too soon and
he felt threatened by me." Lesnar also noted there is "a guy that's been on a winning streak for a long time that somebody needs to step up to
the plate and finish the winning streak."
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posted on 10-11-2011 at 09:33 PM
So he would come back, but only for Austin or, I'm guessing, Taker. Which makes sense money wise...for him and wwe. I don't think either
will happen though. Even with what happened between Brock and taker at his fight a while back.
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posted on 10-11-2011 at 10:00 PM
Austin was also on the downward curve of his career thanks to too many neck and knee injuries and probably didn't want to get crippled for good
by some corn/steroid-fed psycho. So fuck you Brock. Try taking your balls out of Rena Mero's purse once in a while too, ya big freaky douchebag.
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posted on 10-11-2011 at 10:46 PM
I believe the story from Austin's end was he didn't want to job without any build-up. The wwe wanted to hotshot the match on that
evening's Raw and Austin said no way.
Regarding Brock, I believe his current UFC contract is down to it's last fight and he's being fed to Overeem to put Demolition Man over
for the UFC audience. This fight is Jan 30th this year.
I wouldn't be surprised if Brock vs Undertaker happened at WM in Miami. Of course UT wouldn't job to Lesnar on a one shot deal - so to
add intrigue for the internet fan they'd have to leak worries about Brock potentially shooting on UT in the match and how the ref should deal
with it.
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posted on 10-12-2011 at 02:05 AM
quote:Originally posted by C.MontgomeryPunk
I believe the story from Austin's end was he didn't want to job without any build-up. The wwe wanted to hotshot the match on that
evening's Raw and Austin said no way.
'Course, Austin also said no way to pretty much every other job he was asked to do from '97 onwards.
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posted on 10-12-2011 at 02:35 AM
^^Well, that's not true at all. Let's not shit on Austin for being smarter than the writermonkeys.
Anyway, he wants to end "someone's winning streak?" Better watch out, Crimson!
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posted on 10-12-2011 at 03:43 AM
quote:Originally posted by FistHiccups
'Course, Austin also said no way to pretty much every other job he was asked to do from '97 onwards.
Well, except for when he jobbed to Bret Hart, Undertaker, Foley, the Rock, Triple H, Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, and I think maybe RVD on a Raw
somewhere in late 2001. It's a better track record than Cena, especially considering that in the 5 year window between 1997-2002 when Austin
walked out after refusing to job to Brock that he was injured for at least 18 months of that timeframe.
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posted on 10-12-2011 at 10:18 AM
I've only ever read about Austin refusing to job to someone on two occasions, and with both there's kind of more to it than that;
Brock - I think his big quote was that he felt there would be money in a feud between Lesnar and himself, and that as mentioned above he didn't
think hotshotting the angle in a throwaway squash on free TV was the right thing to do just so that Lesnar could be fattened up and fed to HHH down
the line.
Did Austin handle it right? No, but I can't say that he's wrong either. Also in his "defense", he was pretty much done by that point
onward, so we'll never know how he would have handled ultimately having to put Brock over.
HHH - This one goes back to HHH's first ever title win at Summer Slam (I think it was the one Ventura reffed) and the story going around was
that Austin didn't want to put HHH over, which is why Foley was brought in and wound up winning the match only to lose to HHH on Raw the next
night.
I memory serves correct that match was followed by Austin having a pretty inconsistent schedule for the next little while, with really his only match
being one where he put HHH over (I know he put him over at some point when they had that 3 stages of hell match... which I would like to see the WWE
dust off again at some point) as I do believe this was around the time of that six man HITC match and where they did that whole "cheat" where they
billed Austin as being good to go until the night of the PPV and then had him hit by a car and unable to compete as he was on the shelf for neck
surgery. There were also a lot of comments about how Austin didn't think wrestlers should be sitting in on booking meetings, which is about the
time when HHH was starting to really cozy up to Vince (Jericho talks about the shitty matches he had to endure with Chyna and how up Vince's
butt HHH was in his 2nd book)
...So long story short on not putting HHH over, he did do it a few times, so maybe that one time where its rumoured he didn't was because
he'd have preferred to see them have a solid back and forth feud, as I know he did ultimately put HHH over on a few occasions.
Anyway, history aside, Brock being in WWE 12 is very cool as it sounds like the only dream name I think their missing thus far is Goldberg.
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posted on 10-12-2011 at 12:38 PM
Didn't Austin also refuse to job to Eddie Guerrero, which led to another infamous Austin walkout?
quote:Anyway, history aside, Brock being in WWE 12 is very cool as it sounds like the only dream name I think their missing thus far is
Goldberg.
Short of his music, you've got everything in Create-a-Wrestler to create Goldberg, even the bicep tattoo. They even got his
mannerisms on the Spear and Jackhammer down pat in the Moveset section. And how hard is it to create a bald white dude with a moustache in black
trunks and boots?
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posted on 10-12-2011 at 01:15 PM
The way I remember it, it was Jeff Jarrett that Austin refused to give a rub to.
But, if I am reading in between the lines here correctly, what Brock is saying is that coming to a future WM is Brock vs Big Show in a MMA match....
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posted on 10-12-2011 at 02:05 PM
I remember 'Austin refuses to job stories' to Guerrero, Lesnar, and in his most heinous moment- Coach, Vader, and Goldust.
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posted on 10-12-2011 at 04:00 PM
Oh wait, Michael Cole has a big winning streak too. Sweet.
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posted on 10-12-2011 at 08:48 PM
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posted on 10-12-2011 at 09:02 PM
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Seriously, wheres the beef?
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posted on 10-12-2011 at 09:33 PM
I can't imagine Lesnar having any real life issues with Austin, what with them going out and celebrating after Lesnar beat Mir for the UFC
Heavyweight title.
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posted on 10-12-2011 at 09:44 PM
I thought Austin was set to feud with Guerrero, but his walk out over the Lesnar match ruined that. Because didn't Eddie fight Ric Flair? I was
at a house show where RVD fought Eddie in a cage match, and Flair ran out to distract Guerrero.
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I remember Eddie Guerrero.
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posted on 10-13-2011 at 02:18 AM
This is quickly becoming an intersting thread (as opposed to a cool bit of news) as it morphs into a kind of urban legends revisited thread, except
now we've had a bit more access to some of the stories from days of yore'.
To wit;
Jeff Jarrett: I've head stories of the whole no Austin vs JJ, but I don't know if that can be firmly placed on Austin, but instead on JR
and the WWE at large as I don't think they ever saw any real money in Jarrett to push him to the top. The guy was afterall a long time on again,
off again employee who never really escaped the midcard, so as much as an Austin feud might have pushed him up the card, Austin was by no means the
only guy that might have frozen JJ out of the main event. A bit of a numbers game also worked against JJ as you had an emerging HHH at that time as
well as the newly signed Chris Jericho, to say nothing of DX being heels, along with your Kane's, Rock's, and Taker's flipping back
and forth, so the WWE had a pretty stacked deck to try and break into the top of the card as a heel (if it was as a face you couldn't put that
on Austin as he was the top face then).
JJ was holding the IC belt I do believe and due to an oversight and some problems with JR his contract was allowed to run out the day before a PPV
where he was schedule to drop the belt to Chyna. I don't remember if he had already signed with WCW or not at that point, but the word was going
around that he held up the WWE for a nice tidy sum of money in order to do the PPV and drop the belt to Chyna, which probably was the death nail in
terms of JJ ever getting a fair shake with the WWE in the future again, not that it bothered him as he went on to of course star in WCW and co-found
TNA.
Eddie Guererro - I've never heard anything about him refusing to job to Guererro as I was always under the impression he got on with Eddie. I do
remember hearing a story that Eddie was rehired expressly to work with Austin, but that all of the Lesnar stuff (I think they were around the same
time) kind of came to a boil and that was when Austin pretty much bailed... which I guess left Eddie hanging, but since he went on to be the world
champ not too many years later he seemed to do just fine as well.
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posted on 10-13-2011 at 03:43 AM
Well I'd guess that loss of mass probably has something to do with him, y'know, almost dying from
diverticultis and shit.
I really wonder what happens to Brock when his UFC contract is up. He's obviously a pretty big draw for them but I think his diverticulitis (and
getting his ass handed to him by Velasquez) has really stalled out his career. Even being significantly smaller, he's probably got more value to
WWE than he does to UFC right now, and he's only 34, so he could probably easily get another decade out of a wrestling career, but I don't
know if Vince can pay him what Dana is paying him. He's been gone for I think 7 years now, so just about every potential matchup for him would
be a fresh one. I guess it comes down to what he wants to do, and it's going to be interesting to see how his next fight goes and if that
factors into who he resigns with
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posted on 10-13-2011 at 09:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by JB KING
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posted on 10-14-2011 at 12:38 AM
Flash - the timeline you had was slightly muddied. Austin's dodgy neck and absence from a match came at Survivor Series 99 where he was meant to
face Rock and HHH in a three way (Big Show took his place and the title). The HITC six man was Dec. 2000, the 3 stages of hell early '01.
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quote:Originally posted by Red Irts
Flash - the timeline you had was slightly muddied. Austin's dodgy neck and absence from a match came at Survivor Series 99 where he was meant to
face Rock and HHH in a three way (Big Show took his place and the title). The HITC six man was Dec. 2000, the 3 stages of hell early '01.
Yeah, I wasn't quite sure about that as that was a pretty busy period within the WWE where they were genuinely able to give us several fresh
main events month to month, and quite frankly my memory just ain't what it used to be
Also, and I'm do lazy to go check, I think Austin did actually wind up facing HHH one on one before he was written out, but it was at one of
those old UK exclusive PPV's, so I'm not sure if the WWE always treated them as "cannon" to their ongoing global PPV's.
Anyway, thanks for the refresher.
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posted on 10-14-2011 at 12:19 PM
Flash the PPV you're thinking of with HHH/Austin one on one from '99 was No Mercy. It was a North American PPV, it also featured the
famous tag team ladder match between the Hardys and Edge and Christain. Would've been Oct '99.
For the record it also featured the match you mentioned before where Jarrett held up the office for more money ($250,000) to drop the IC belt out of
contract to Chyna on his way to WCW.
On the Jarrett topic, it was Russo who wanted to push Jarrett (Debra being Jarrett's manager and Austin's wife, the Attitude/reality era)
in the WWF. I read the real reason that Austin refused to work with Jarrett was because back in the Memphis/USWA days Jerry Jarrett screwed Austin out
of some money while working in Jerry's territory's and Austin also took exception to him pushing his son. So Austin has always had beef
with the Jarrett family since the late 80's.
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quote:Originally posted by Flash
Eddie Guererro - I've never heard anything about him refusing to job to Guererro as I was always under the impression he got on with Eddie. I do
remember hearing a story that Eddie was rehired expressly to work with Austin, but that all of the Lesnar stuff (I think they were around the same
time) kind of came to a boil and that was when Austin pretty much bailed... which I guess left Eddie hanging, but since he went on to be the world
champ not too many years later he seemed to do just fine as well.
I'm not too sure either. If I remember correctly, Austin stumped to have a match or two with Eddie. I think it was detailed on Eddie's
"Cheating Death" dvd.
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