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John Morrison's Future
According to multiple sources, John Morrison's contract up very soon. And with his recent treatment, it doesnt seem that Jomo has any intrest
with an intial re-signing. WWE looks to pull another "Shelton" by releasing good talent. Back in December of 2010, John was on a rollercoaster ride.
He was feuding with WWE Champion the Miz and was getting great hype via video packages like Jeff Hardy back in 2009. Then some things happened.
1. The Wrestlemania incident. Melina made the inital fire when she made it public news. Making accusations were that Trish Stratus and Snooki
"stole" her WM spot when in reality wasnt even on the main shows in weeks. The heat came Johnny's way when he initally sided with Melina and
snubbed Trish, Snooki, and people backstage.
2. Neck injury. Morrison was given a title shot, but due to his neck injury he was sidelined for several months as he nemisis, R-Truth gained massive
heat and got over. There was also current rumors about a dispute with Morrison and WWE medical staff about his neck bill. Although with little sources
explaining the situation, it may be fake.
3. Return to Today. Johnny returned to feud with Truth. Only to job 3 times in a row clean? As a matter of fact, Jomo has had little to no clean wins
on Raw and Smackdown. Most recently, he has been doing the job to Henry, Ziggler, Cody and Christian in very short matches. Sadly, Melina continues to
"defend" her boyfriend while also doing off colored shennanigans. On the brighter side, he has a new t-shirt.
When you take all of this into account. You have to wonder if hes about to be 'devored. Maybe he might just take some time off and return. Or
maybe we are looking at the next Christian Cage of making it big and building his character in another promotion before returning back to WWE and make
it big. As silly as some of the options given in the poll may indicate, I still want to try to make this a somewhat serioous discussioin.
Two time Winner for 2010 Breakthrough Poster of the Year Award. You read that right.
XBL Gamertag: JB KING
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Frank Lloyd Wright
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It's a shame that he's let a crazy bitch like Melina flush his career down the toilet. He just needs to keep his mouth shut and not make
any noise during his exit. No reason to burn bridges at this point. The WWE will be around forever, Melina won't.
I have two ambitions in life: one is to drink every pub dry, the other is to sleep with every woman on earth -- Oliver Reed
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punkerhardcore
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He has a ton of talent and is over as hell, but I agree with Frank... it seems like he let his girlfriend's poor attitude rub off on him. Best
thing he could do for his career is cut ties with her for good and start building up a good rapport backstage again.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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Paddlefoot
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Hogan/Bischoff-Era TNA seems to enjoy collecting malcontents, nutcases, genuine assholes, and gOOfoffs of all stripes. As such I'm certain that
Morrison and his favourite female will enjoy a long successful streak there of fucking over any of the other performers who are on the wrong side of
the internal backstage politics. Start the deathclock on Brooke Assmacher's TNA career the moment Melina is signed because the War Over The
Fuzzy Boots ain't over by a longshot.
GW Bush read Camus because "everyone has to read a book written by a killer whale" - General JC Christian
I downloaded the soundtrack to "Song of the South," and it's 45 minutes of whipcracks, women pleading "please, no," and people screaming.
- the esteemed Dr. Mobute
When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? - John Maynard Keynes
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nOOb
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How are options 1 and 4 exclusive from each other?
Everything about this girl is awesome. She's hot, she got kicked out of school for sucking too many dicks, she takes it in the ass and her body
gives itself abortions. -Punker on Lilly Allen's Miscarriage
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Paddlefoot
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Don't get me wrong. The Morrison matches in TNA should be borderline spectacular. It just that, as goes with too much in TNA, it'll be
involving a person (as shown by the Trish incident) who has the same personality as that which someone with lung cancer just hocked up into the
bathroom sink.
As such all signs surely point to Morrison and Melina getting on incredibly well with Hogan.
GW Bush read Camus because "everyone has to read a book written by a killer whale" - General JC Christian
I downloaded the soundtrack to "Song of the South," and it's 45 minutes of whipcracks, women pleading "please, no," and people screaming.
- the esteemed Dr. Mobute
When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? - John Maynard Keynes
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C.MontgomeryPunk
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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He'll very likely go to TNA where they'll greet him with open arms. It would be a good fit for both parties. Morrison can sell his ass
off and works a flashy style. Can't promo to save his life though, but TNA doesn't worry about that all that much.
I think he could have been a top guy in the WWE, but he never passed the Vince McMahon sight test (meaning Vince didn't believe he could kick
anybodies ass in real life so he couldn't push him to a title). I still think he could have been paired with Vickie Guerrero and given a strong
HBK/Sherri homage storyline.
However Morrison is one of those guys whose been around too long without breaking though and is just taking the spot of others who still could. The
drama with Melina just makes him not worth the hassle.
I remember Eddie Guerrero.
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Martman
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I really don't think Melina had anything to do with the snubbing of Trish at WrestleMania. I think Morrison got pissed that he was put in the
"divas" match on the show, a match that wasn't going to get any time and was probably going to be used as the breather/restroom break, and he
felt he deserved a more prominent place on the card. Then to make things worse, when Trish helped lay out the structure of the match, it focused
mainly on her, Michelle, and Snooki. And in a way, that made sense. Trish was going to be a trainer on TE, so they had to promote her. Snooki was
the celeb, so they had to give her a spot or 3.
Morrison should've known better, and so I don't blame WWE for punishing him. But that punishment should've lasted maybe a month or
2 and THEN you forget about it and go about the business of turning Morrison into a main eventer - something the company desperately needs right now.
Forget about who Melina slept with. Forget about her trying to break in backstage at an event. Focus on Morrison and helping him reach that next
level. The guy has the look and the wrestling ability to be a main eventer. His match on RAW with Miz for the title was LIGHT YEARS ahead of
Miz's match with Cena at WrestleMania. And that's not cuz Cena's a bad wrestler, its because of how the match was booked. But
still, Miz/Morrison would've been a great Mania match and they took that away from him. And now they're burying him for stuff he really
has no control over.
WWE needs to get over it and make a new star. They're desperately short of them.
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chewey
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Remember the time Jerry Lawler left the WWE because they let Stacy "The Kat" Carter go? And then a few weeks after Lawler left, the Kat ended up
cheating on Lawler?
Yeah, this sort of reminds me of that.
"Don't matter how many times you get burnt, you just keep doin' the same."
--Bodie, HBO's The Wire
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Beer Baron
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Fuck that Nigga.
*reply may or may not be alcohol induced and in no way would be a proper race related response.F
There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.
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Gobshite
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quote:
Originally posted by chewey
Remember the time Jerry Lawler left the WWE because they let Stacy "The Kat" Carter go? And then a few weeks after Lawler left, the Kat ended up
cheating on Lawler?
Yeah, this sort of reminds me of that.
But JoMo knows that Melina cheats on him...
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firewoman
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Probably TNA for a while, anyway. He might do the Christian thing and go back and forth.
I can easily see him taking over the role they seem to want Jeff Hardy to play, but with a lower likelihood (as far as we know, anyway) of surprising
them with court drama.
And thanks to JB King for the awesome picture.
resident sorceress and necromancer in training.
[DevSop] god your sex life scares me
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punkerhardcore
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quote:
Originally posted by Martman
I really don't think Melina had anything to do with the snubbing of Trish at WrestleMania. I think Morrison got pissed that he was put in the
"divas" match on the show, a match that wasn't going to get any time and was probably going to be used as the breather/restroom break, and he
felt he deserved a more prominent place on the card.
That actually seems less plausible to me than the Melina explanation. As worthless as I think Snooki is, her fame and popularity is undeniable.
Morrison had to know "Snooki has a match at Wrestlemania, teaming up with..." was going to get mentioned on Extra, TMZ and every other tabloid TV
show. Yeah, it would have been ideal for Morrison vs. Ziggler to be the Mania match, but getting some mainstream exposure wasn't going to be a
bad thing either... especially in a business where popularity means everything.
[Edited on 10-15-2011 by punkerhardcore]
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desjr001
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"cut ties with" a "crazy bitch like Melina"
Do any of you REALLY think that Melina would just ride off into the sunset should he break up with her? She's insane, possessive AND vindictive.
That's not a reasonable combination in anyone.
(thanks to punker and FLW for the quotes)
Opinions are like assholes,
everybody's got one.
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Martman
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quote:
Morrison had to know "Snooki has a match at Wrestlemania, teaming up with..." was going to get mentioned on Extra, TMZ and every other
tabloid TV show
Not really, from what I remember. Yeah they showed video footage of the 3 together, but all the talk focused on Snooki, not the other two. But hey,
I wasn't there, so my speculation is as good as anyone else.
[Edited on 10-15-2011 by Martman]
[Edited on 10-15-2011 by Martman]
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Flash
Man of a Thousand Holds
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I gotta weigh in on Punker's side on this one; We may think that the Snooki "entertainment" spot was a shit spot, but the reality is that it
was a featured spot on the Wrestlemania card (and thus rates above not being on the card), and probably netted him a nice card appearance bonus.
Would he have loved to have stolen the show and had bit time feud culminate there? If he's passionate about his job then no doubt, but what he
got was a hell of a lot better than doing non televised (and thus no bonus) warm up matches. You could also question why if he was upset about his
spot would he take it out on a fairly beloved legend like Trish by snubbing her, unless someone he was fond of was perceived as being cut out of the
Wrestlemania pie.
As for Morrison's future... ?
I don't know that his recent losing streak can really weigh to heavily into our perception of what the WWE really thinks about him. It
wasn't so long ago that we were wondering if CM Punk was on his way out as he seemed to job week after week as he barely made it onto
PPV's and yet here we are; new contract in hand and he's top 5 in the company. Is Morrison Punk? No, but I do think the WWE recognizes
both his talent and their level of investment in him over the years, so it would suprise me if they don't at least make him an offer to stay.
So I think its on him really... I think he could do a lot of good in TNA, and could probably still have the option to come back one day to the WWE
provided he keeps his gripes to himself on his way out the door and during his theoretical hiatus. I think he needs to look at the big picture though;
not to set off a big TNA war or anything but they are on shaky ground, so if they aren't going to be around 1-2 years from now is it worth
potentially damaging his relationship with the WWE expecially knowing that even if he is a success in TNA and the WWE would take him back, the midcard
is still his likely destination for a while anyway. The other thing to consider is at around 30 years of age is it smarter to suffer through with a
WWE downshide contract over TNA's upside? Is the WWE door that closed to Melina, or could some time off and some good behaviour let her come
back one day? There also seems to be a renewed focus on the WWE midcard, so if he re-signs and plays the good soldier is there once again an
opportunity to shine?
So long story short the in ring story implications are potentially intersting in both companies, probably moreso in TNA simply because there's
more likelyhood of him getting a main event shot, however the "real" world implications are that the TNA door will likely always be open to him and
the fat WWE cheques may not. It might make more sense to shut up for a while, collect the money jerking the WWE curtain, get future endeavoured a year
or two from now, and then go to TNA if that's still an option.
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cloak and dagger
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I blame both him and the WWE.
As athletic as he is, he deserves more time on-screen and in the ring. His promo work however, has deteriorated. When he was tagging with The Miz? He
nailed every promo he got. When he was ECW champion? Crushed it. Coming out of the tag split with Miz, nobody could've told anybody that
Morrison wasn't the more marketable star out of the two.
His promo skills are trash now, and that has lowered his stock. If he could talk, he'd be too over to throw away. R-Truth was having problems
talking when he first started getting his push, but he took care of that REAL quick. The result is that Morrison's two tag partners are the
focus of the show right now.
Catch the fuck up, Johnny. Nobody wants to see you get lost in the shuffle in the Impact Zone, having a feud over who's the prettiest with
Robbie E.
"...and everything I touch, shall wither and die."
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theflammablemanimal
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Maybe mouthing off to Johnny Ace was the start of something? Otherwise, I hope he goes to TNA or ROH. But I wouldn't be surprised if he gets the
patented Shelton Benjamin "Here's a ton of money to waste your career" contract.
The first undisputed OO draft champion of the world
Get the pistons pumping and let the pigeons loose on my yambag
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the goon
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quote:
Originally posted by cloak and dagger
Coming out of the tag split with Miz, nobody could've told anybody that Morrison wasn't the more marketable star out of the two.
Totally agree. At the time, it seemed completely obvious that Miz would be the "Jannetty" of the team...boy, how that notion has since been proven
wrong.
And I'm an admitted Morrison mark, so I don't like to see the way he's been jobbed out lately, but if it's because of any
backstage/Melina-related reasons, then what can you do. If he were to go to TNA, I'd definitely tune in to watch him there. If he sticks with
WWE, hopefully he can tough it out and regain the push he had when he was going over Sheamus on PPV.
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denverpunk
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Morrison and McIntyre are both obviously being punished for who they dated, but I think a bit of a double-standard is being used here, and the girls
are being used as scapegoats to punish them for other real reasons. Wasn't Kurt Angle's wife seen as domineering when he was in WWE? He
was never 'punished' for that. Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart both hooked up with Sunny (who's not exactly a stable person to have in
the locker room), and neither of them saw any flak. Triple H dated Chyna for years and never got 'punished' for it.
Melina caused a lot of shit, and Morrison's a dumbass for staying loyal to her through that, but if they truly valued him then they would work
around it. The same with McIntyre, but even more so. He married a girl who wasn't even around very long to cause too much trouble (their
public fight nonewithstanding), and he's buried because of THAT? She hasn't even been with the company for over a year! There have to be
other reasons for being ignored and underappreciated.
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FistHiccups
Man of a Thousand Holds
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quote:
Originally posted by cloak and dagger
As athletic as he is, he deserves more time on-screen and in the ring. His promo work however, has deteriorated. When he was tagging with The Miz? He
nailed every promo he got. When he was ECW champion? Crushed it. Coming out of the tag split with Miz, nobody could've told anybody that
Morrison wasn't the more marketable star out of the two.
That's not true at all. Morrison has always been a terrible, terrible talker. When he was Johnny Nitro, when he was ECW champion, it always
sucked. He was tolerable with Miz on the Dirt Sheet because Miz carried a lot of that and the Dirt Sheet was a very different animal from wrestling
promos, so Morrison's awkward, wooden delivery wasn't as jarring as it is when he does a speech in front of a live crowd.
But by the time they split up, it was more than clear which one was better at connecting with the audience. I don't think anyone could've
predicted Miz would be headlining WrestleMania within two years, but it was obvious he was the star of that team. As soon as they split, I was saying
WWE needed to innovate a new way of presenting Morrison and his storylines, because putting him in the ring with a microphone would be a disaster. And
thus far, it has been. The only time I can think of where it seemed like they'd figured it out was the first week he did the parkour thing. I
think there were one or two weeks where he seemed pretty badass, and then it just fizzled out again and he went back to being Spotmonkey, The Wooden
Nervous Boy.
Morrison's just another Shelton Benjamin, I think. He's athletic, has a good look, can pull off some impressive moves, but he
doesn't have what it takes to make people give enough of a fuck to put him at world title level. Though he can pull out a main event level match
with an opponent who has the ability and crowd connection to carry him through it. He's been in WWE for about six years now, too. If he was ever
going to get the personality side of the job, I think he would've done it by now. I hope he proves me wrong one day, though.
quote:
Originally posted by denverpunk
Morrison and McIntyre are both obviously being punished for who they dated, but I think a bit of a double-standard is being used here, and the girls
are being used as scapegoats to punish them for other real reasons.
That doesn't make any sense. You can't think it's obviously over girls and think it's not really over girls. What do
you suspect the real reasons to punish Morrison and McIntyre are? I think Morrison's where he is largely because he's shitty, and because
bringing your batshit-crazy girlfriend to work after she's just been fired for being batshit-crazy (and past her expiration date) is indicative
of being a moron.
I think in McIntyre's case, it's largely because he was megapushed for about a year and a half and did nothing with it. Kind of the same
thing that happened with Masters, he blew his initial push and the company doesn't have faith in him. Drew's actually really good these
days, though. If he was performing at his current standard 18 months ago, he'd be a world champion by now. Instead, he's wrestling on
Superstars, which they don't even bother putting on WWE.com anymore.
[Edited on 10-21-2011 by FistHiccups]
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denverpunk
Showstopper
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quote:
Originally posted by FistHiccups
That doesn't make any sense. You can't think it's obviously over girls and think it's not really over girls. What do
you suspect the real reasons to punish Morrison and McIntyre are? I think Morrison's where he is largely because he's shitty, and because
bringing your batshit-crazy girlfriend to work after she's just been fired for being batshit-crazy (and past her expiration date) is indicative
of being a moron.
I think in McIntyre's case, it's largely because he was megapushed for about a year and a half and did nothing with it. Kind of the same
thing that happened with Masters, he blew his initial push and the company doesn't have faith in him. Drew's actually really good these
days, though. If he was performing at his current standard 18 months ago, he'd be a world champion by now. Instead, he's wrestling on
Superstars, which they don't even bother putting on WWE.com anymore.
[Edited on 10-21-2011 by FistHiccups]
Yeah, I didn't word that very well at all. I meant that the girls were the 'official' reason why Morrison/McIntyre were being
punished, but the true reason was beyond that. Being drunk didn't help that one.
I have to disagree about McIntyre. He had some really solid matches during his initial push -- hell, he even made Matt Hardy look good. Sure, his
promos were a little vanilla, but he certainly didn't blow anything bad enough to be put below David Otunga on the depth chart and never be put
on TV again.
Morrison's a documented dipshit, sure, but he's a dipshit who can draw money with thr right angle and push. He's far too young and
talented (in-ring, at least) to just let go, despite being a pain in the ass.
[Edited on 10-21-2011 by denverpunk]
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cloak and dagger
Creepy Little Bastard
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quote:
Originally posted by FistHiccups
That's not true at all. Morrison has always been a terrible, terrible talker. When he was Johnny Nitro, when he was ECW champion, it always
sucked. He was tolerable with Miz on the Dirt Sheet because Miz carried a lot of that and the Dirt Sheet was a very different animal from wrestling
promos, so Morrison's awkward, wooden delivery wasn't as jarring as it is when he does a speech in front of a live crowd.
But by the time they split up, it was more than clear which one was better at connecting with the audience. I don't think anyone could've
predicted Miz would be headlining WrestleMania within two years, but it was obvious he was the star of that team. As soon as they split, I was saying
WWE needed to innovate a new way of presenting Morrison and his storylines, because putting him in the ring with a microphone would be a disaster. And
thus far, it has been. The only time I can think of where it seemed like they'd figured it out was the first week he did the parkour thing. I
think there were one or two weeks where he seemed pretty badass, and then it just fizzled out again and he went back to being Spotmonkey, The Wooden
Nervous Boy.
You're delusional.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNd2xwk8OI
Morrison was more than solid by the time he and Miz split. They carried each other in that tag team, but Morrison was definitely the better talent at
the time. In fact, I think his real problem is the fact that Morrison can't deliver as a face the way he can as a heel. He has less material for
his smarmy-ass Jim Morrison character when he has to dance for smiles from the crowd.
Mind you, that's still a problem he needs to overcome. You gotta be able to roll with what's thrown at you without losing your character.
Sheamus is a great example of that being done right. But to say that Morrison now = Morrison then? Not even close.
"...and everything I touch, shall wither and die."
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cloak and dagger
Creepy Little Bastard
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edit: stupid double post.
[Edited on 10-21-2011 by cloak and dagger]
"...and everything I touch, shall wither and die."
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FistHiccups
Man of a Thousand Holds
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quote:
Originally posted by cloak and dagger
You're delusional.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQNd2xwk8OI
If you watch that and think Morrison's a good talker, then God bless you. Wrestling should have more fans who are so easily pleased. It's
not his worst by any means, but he's still awful there -- and even on that one he had Miz holding his hand. I think that mini-feud with Miz was
about two weeks before the start of the "Mr Ziggles" feud. He didn't have a lobotomy in between. He's always been very, very bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szhZgxvA_FA
As a heel, you can get away with awful delivery more because people don't have to enjoy your speech. But as a heel, you have to have a bit more
in your arsenal than flippy stunts, too, so he's pretty fucked either way. Still, another tag team may come his way that can hide his weaknesses
the way his teams with Mercury and Miz did.
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