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Battle of the WrestleMania Rosters
25 years ago, we were on the threshold of WMIII, an event that really carried through on the concept of the supercard to say the least. Matching that
card with the developing WM card 25 years later, let's see what kind of matchups we come up with. In doing this, I will keep a strict adherence
to match buildups on each respective card, face/heel designations, and so on, even if it means sacrificing match quality for acuracy.
Double Main Event
Hulk Hogan vs John Cena
and
Andre the Giant vs The Rock
Cena-Rock is the de facto ME of WM XXVIII. Since Rock is much more popular than Cena (and since Hogan-Rock has actually happened at a WM), Cena can
matchup against the uber-popular Hogan of 1987 while Rock can play the Hogan role, so to speak, against Andre.
Next, taking the ME matches out of the equation, let's look at the most high-profile title match remaining on each card. In keeping with
face/heel designations, and despite it leading to a match that has kind of happened at a WM, that gives us two stellar matches in
Randy Savage vs C.M. Punk
and
Ricky Steamboat vs Chris Jericho
Next up, the next highest-profile matchup of each respective card leads us to the following pair of matches;
Roddy Piper vs HHH
and
Adrian Adonis vs The Undertaker
One cannot deny that the Piper-Adonis match was no lower than third in terms of hype on the WMIII card. With UT-HHH being face/face, I could play
around with the two matches here and slightly preferred the dynamic of Piper-HHH to Piper-Taker.
Going with the next match down the card on each respective WM, we get this pair of matches, one straightforward, one thought-provoking.
Billy Jack Haynes vs Daniel Bryan
and
Hercules vs Sheamus
That's eight matches so far. WMIII had 12 matches, which is a lot compared to 2012 norms, so I'll add three more. Moreover, WMIII had
three tag matches and two six-man matches, so at least one tag match is appropriate here. While the British Bulldogs were outstanding, Dynamite was
still being protected because of his back injury, so that causes the booking of the following heel/heel match.
The Hart Foundation vs Primo and Epico
The final two matches will feature participants of the last announced matchup (as of 3/4/12) from WMXXVIII paired against the most hyped remaining
match of WMIII. That gives us some matches with some real personality in;
Jake Roberts vs Cody Rhodes
and
The Honky Tonk Man vs The Big Show.
This card leaves off a lot of tag team talent from the 1980's but they just wouldn't have the competition to justify bumping someone else
off. It also leaves off a lot of today's midcard, but eleven matches is a lot by anyone's standards.
So our card in full is
Hulk Hogan vs John Cena
Andre the Giant vs The Rock
Randy Savage vs CM Punk
Ricky Steamboat vs Chris Jericho
Rowdy Roddy Piper vs HHH
Adrian Adonis vs The Undertaker
Billy Jack Haynes vs Daniel Bryan
Hercules vs Sheamus
The Hart Foundation vs Primo and Epico
Jake Roberts vs Cody Rhodes
The Honky Tonk Man vs The Big Show
On such a card, which match would you most (and least) look forward to? Which match would exceed most people's expectations? Or fall far
short? Would you have a high level of anticipation of the card as it nears or would it fail to interest you? And who should prevail? With 11
matches, barring draws, one era will ultimately prevail over the other, but which one should it be? All thoughts and criticisms welcome.
[Edited on 3-17-2015 by Jazzman]
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Awesome project man. The end result is absolutely superb and rivals any fantasy wrestling card anybody ever came up with. Savage/Punk would be the
hands-down show stealer, even if Punk throws the absolutely (WORST) top rope elbow drop in history (admittedly so). Every single match on here is
stellar and I would look forward to, even Sheamus vs Hercules (keep it short - Sheamus goes over - good stuff). As for the old guard, I could see
Macho Man, Steamboat and the Hart Foundation winning. The rest goes to the new school. I can't pick a match I anticipate most, as even the
Haynes/Bryan match has my imagination running! And man, how HILARIOUS would an Undertaker/Adrian Adonis Wrestlemania build be in the weeks leading up
to it?? Cena and Hogan would have a similar ending as the Hogan/UW WM6 match and end the whole card on a positive note. Also, I want to see Big Show
no-sell a guitar shot (maybe punching through it?) before choke slamming HTM to hell. Great stuff Jazzman!!!
Join the amazing world of Mash-Up Wrestling!
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Cena vs. Andre - this generation's Hogan vs. the undefeated Giant.
Rock vs. Hogan - I think Rock can sell better for Hogan.
Bryan vs. Steamboat - no explanation needed.
Shaemus vs. Savage - Macho can work well with the big brawler.
Jericho vs. Piper - battle of the promos.
Punk vs. Adonis - straight edge versus... not straight edge.
Triple H vs. Harley Race - if only both were in their primes.
Undertaker vs. the Junkyard Dog - two of the Fed's most popular wrestlers, ever.
There's my eight, doing a "strict" mix of matches. As you mentioned before, it'd be hard to get 12 full matches on there, so I'm
going to mix the rest up and get 11:
Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger vs. the Hart Foundation
Epico and Primo vs. the Rougeau Brothers
Cody Rhodes vs. the Big Show vs. Randy Orton vs. the Miz vs. Tito Santana vs. Davey Boy Smith vs. Bob Orton vs. Don Muraco - Money in the Bank match
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Jazzman
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The WM III-XXVIII fusion looks considerably better than would versions for II-XXVII and I-XXVI if I was to use the same logic in card-building. In a
nutshell;
WM II-XXVII Fused Card
Steel Cage Match
King Kong Bundy vs John Cena
Probably a better match than appears on paper, but hard to get excited about.
Hulk Hogan vs The Miz
Awful in every way.
Randy Savage vs Edge
Probably MotN, with only one other possible rival.
George Steele vs Alberto Del Rio
This could actually work as an undercard match, with a good amount of sideshow humor.
Roddy Piper vs Undertaker
Hopeful.
Mr T. vs HHH
Not so hopeful.
Ricky Steamboat vs CM Punk
The other MotN contender, if given enough time.
Hercules vs Randy Orton
Strictly by the numbers here.
British Bulldogs vs Justin Gabriel & Heath Slater
Showcase for Bulldogs here.
Fabulous Moolah vs Trish Stratus
Among the all time women's best, but not a good mix of styles here.
20-man Batttle Royal, featuring Andre the Giant, Big John Studd, The Hart Foundation, Bruno Sammartino, Pedro Morales, The Iron Sheik, Tony Atlas,
Refrigerator Perry, Russ Francis, Kane, The Big Show, Wade Barrett, Ezekiel Jackson, Cody Rhodes, Rey Misterio, John Morrison, Jack Swagger, Dolph
Ziggler, and Santino Marella
Good for a battle royal, but not as iconic as the WMII original.
And
WM I-XXVI Fused Card
Hulk Hogan vs The Undertaker
Sorry, not going the tag route here. This is a money match.
Roddy Piper vs Shawn Michaels
This could be outstanding in build and action.
Greg Valentine vs John Cena
Bad, bad mix.
Junkyard Dog vs Batista
See above.
Wendi Richter vs Maryse
Hoping against hope.
The U.S. Express vs ShowMiz
This could be pretty interesting.
Andre the Giant vs Chris Jericho
Waste of Jericho here.
Big John Studd vs Edge
Edge may get more out of Studd but still an uphill battle.
Brutus Beefcake vs Rey Misterio
Could simultaneously be Beefcake's best match and Rey's worst.
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Jazzman
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The WM III-XXVIII fusion looks considerably better than would versions for II-XXVII and I-XXVI if I was to use the same logic in card-building. In a
nutshell;
WM II-XXVII Fused Card
Steel Cage Match
King Kong Bundy vs John Cena
Probably a better match than appears on paper, but hard to get excited about.
Hulk Hogan vs The Miz
Awful in every way.
Randy Savage vs Edge
Probably MotN, with only one other possible rival.
George Steele vs Alberto Del Rio
This could actually work as an undercard match, with a good amount of sideshow humor.
Roddy Piper vs Undertaker
Hopeful.
Mr T. vs HHH
Not so hopeful.
Ricky Steamboat vs CM Punk
The other MotN contender, if given enough time.
Hercules vs Randy Orton
Strictly by the numbers here.
British Bulldogs vs Justin Gabriel & Heath Slater
Showcase for Bulldogs here.
Fabulous Moolah vs Trish Stratus
Among the all time women's best, but not a good mix of styles here.
20-man Batttle Royal, featuring Andre the Giant, Big John Studd, The Hart Foundation, Bruno Sammartino, Pedro Morales, The Iron Sheik, Tony Atlas,
Refrigerator Perry, Russ Francis, Kane, The Big Show, Wade Barrett, Ezekiel Jackson, Cody Rhodes, Rey Misterio, John Morrison, Jack Swagger, Dolph
Ziggler, and Santino Marella
Good for a battle royal, but not as iconic as the WMII original.
And
WM I-XXVI Fused Card
Hulk Hogan vs The Undertaker
Sorry, not going the tag route here. This is a money match.
Roddy Piper vs Shawn Michaels
This could be outstanding in build and action.
Greg Valentine vs John Cena
Bad, bad mix.
Junkyard Dog vs Batista
See above.
Wendi Richter vs Maryse
Hoping against hope.
The U.S. Express vs ShowMiz
This could be pretty interesting.
Andre the Giant vs Chris Jericho
Waste of Jericho here.
Big John Studd vs Edge
Edge may get more out of Studd but still an uphill battle.
Brutus Beefcake vs Rey Misterio
Could simultaneously be Beefcake's best match and Rey's worst.
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We're close enough to WrestleMania for me to do this again. This time, it's WM IV vs WM XXIX. Once again, In doing this, I will keep a
strict adherence to match buildups on each respective card, face/heel designations, and so on, even if it means sacrificing match quality for
accuracy. This is going to be more awkward because of the tournament nature of WM IV, which led to there being an enormous 16 matches on the card,
but I'll do my best.
Double Main Event
Randy Savage vs John Cena
and
Ted DiBiase vs The Rock
Since it was a tournament final, there was no hype for the Savage-DiBiase match, but it was the de facto main event so it gets that treatment here.
And since Rock is still the more popular half, he gets the face designation and Cena the heel, leading to two very promising matches.
Next, taking the ME matches out of the equation, let's look at the most high-profile title match remaining on each card. In keeping with
face/heel designations, that gives us two character-driven matches in
The Honky Tonk Man vs Alberto Del Rio
and
Brutus Beefcake vs Jack Swagger
Then let's pair the next hyped matches going into each respective card. This gives us a couple matches with a lot of mystique with
Hulk Hogan vs CM Punk
and
Andre the Giant vs The Undertaker
And then the next hyped matches down the card give us an odd pair of matches, one polarizing that people will either love or hate and one that is
lacking in sizzle.
The Ultimate Warrior vs Brock Lesnar
and
Hercules vs HHH
That's eight. Getting to sixteen is probably not realistic given the modern product, plus the fact that the sixteen-match WM IV card was not
strong as a whole. But we can add a few more, maybe get to twleve.
Each card looks like it will have one tag team match, so let's put one here, and one potential matchup looks much better than the other, so
let's book
Demolition vs Team Hell No
And each has a six-man match, so let's add one here. Using the above logic, we get
The British Bulldogs & Koko B. Ware vs The Shield
It would be criminal to not use Ricky Steamboat in a singles match here, though the pool of worthwhile competition is very shallow now. I'm
going to blatantly cheat here and book
Ricky Steamboat vs Dolph Ziggler.
Hey, it's better than him facing Fandango.
For the final match, I'll cop out and use WM IV's 20 man battle royal. Here, this features
Bad News Brown, Bret Hart, Jim Neidhart, Bam Bam Bigelow, Rick Martel, Tito Santana, One Man Gang, Jake Roberts, Rick Rude, Jim Duggan, Ryback, Mark
Henry, Chris Jericho, Fandango, Big E Langston, Sheamus, Randy Orton, The Big Show, Wade Barrett, and The Miz
So this card uses most of today's talent, though a lot of 1998's base is left off, including some entrants in the World Title tournament.
12 matches is right in between the 9 booked for WM XXIX and the 16 at WM IV.
So the card in full is
Randy Savage vs John Cena
Ted DiBiase vs The Rock
The Honky Tonk Man vs Alberto Del Rio
Brutus Beefcake vs Jack Swagger
Hulk Hogan vs CM Punk
Andre the Giant vs The Undertaker
The Ultimate Warrior vs Brock Lesnar
Hercules vs HHH
Demolition vs Team Hell No
The British Bulldogs & Koko B Ware vs The Shield
Ricky Steamboat vs Dolph Ziggler
20 man battle royal
On such a card, which match would you most (and least) look forward to? Which match would exceed most people's expectations? Or fall far short?
Would you have a high level of anticipation of the card as it nears or would it fail to interest you? And who should prevail? With 12 matches, there
could be a 6-6 tie, but discounting the battle royal as more spectacle than match, one era will ultimately prevail over the other in head-to-head
matches, but which one should it be? And how does this card compare to last year's card matching WM III vs WM XXVIII? All thoughts and
criticisms welcome.
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Jazzman
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Answering my own questions;
Most anticipated - Savage vs Cena
Least anticipated - Hercules vs HHH
Exceed expectations - Bulldogs/Ware vs Shield (Seriously, I think this match would be fun and make The Shield look like a million bucks)
Fall short - Andre vs Taker (This would have a great build, with Taker's streak vs Andre being 1 year and 1 loss away from a storyline
undefeated career, but Andre just couldn't go anymore at this stage and Taker would have trouble carrying such a massive opponent)
Level of anticipation - If last year's III vs XXVIII was a 10, this would be a 7. I would still buy it and it is pretty well rounded, but
can't match last year's iconic level. I would greatly anticipate Savage-Cena, Rock-DiBiase, Hogan-Punk, and Warrior-Lesnar and have some
interest in HTM-ADR, Steamboat-Dolph, Taker-Ander for the spectacle, the tag and six man matches. The rest not so much.
My picks? I favor the XXIX bunch over the IV group 9-3 (8-3 not counting the battle royal). I won't give a match-by-match breakdown of that
score, not yet at least.
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Not sure anyone still reads these, but I like doing them. SO...
It's time to fuse WMs V and XXX. The occurrence of a "play-in" match on the WM XXX card will complicate things, as will the lack of
one-on-one matches, but sticking with the previous rules as much as possible, let's see what we come up with.
Double Main Event
Randy Savage vs The winner of the match between Daniel Bryan and HHH.
and
Hulk Hogan vs Randy Orton vs Batista
Pairing the matches this way keeps one WWF/E Champion in each match, plus puts Hogan with two heels and gives heel Savage at least the chance to meet
a face in his match.
Obviously, this necessitates a major cheat in the opening match but I can't do much about that. So we get
Daniel Bryan vs HHH
Going traditional the rest of the way, we pair the most high-profile matches left on each card. That gives us a rematch from the WM IV-XXIX fused
card and a match that sounds better the more you think about it.
The Ultimate Warrior vs Brock Lesnar
and
Ravishing Rick Rude vs The Undertaker
Next, we pair the next-highest singles match of WMV with the only one left on WMXXX, coming up with a match that would have a simple but effective
build and one laden in eerieness.
Andre the Giant vs John Cena
and
Jake the Snake Roberts vs Bray Wyatt
Wanting to get the Shield involved, I have little choice but to match them against the sole three-man team competing at WMV, giving us...
The Powers of Pain and Mr. Fuji vs The Shield
Let's get the tag team champs involved. Although we already used the WMV challengers, we have to book the champions. Giving them the best heel
opponents available from the multiway WMXXX match, we get
Demolition vs The Real Americans
That's nine matches (though only 8 era vs era). WMV had 14, WMXXX looks like it will have 8, so let's add two more traditional matches.
Booking the WMXXX Tag Champs against the best available heel opponents, and then enlisting their dance partners, gives us
The Brain Busters vs The Usos
and
Strike Force vs Ryback and Curtis Axel
And to end the construction of the card, we'll use the 30-man battle royal and feature
The Hart Foundation, The Rockers, Ted DiBiase, Brutus Beefcake, Mr. Perfect, The Blue Blazer, The Twin Towers, Hercules, Haku, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, The
Bushwhackers, The Big Show, Alberto Del Rio, Dolph Ziggler, Big E, Christian, Sheamus, Rey Mysterio, The Brotherhood, Mark Henry, Sin Cara, Titus
O'Niel, Fandango, Brodus Clay, and Damien Sandow
So we end up with a card that puts a lot of the 1989 talent into the battle royal, though today's talent is used well for the most part. I did
not realize how many tag team matches there were at WMV coming into this.
The card in full is
Randy Savage vs (Winner of Daniel Bryan vs HHH)
Hulk Hogan vs Randy Orton vs Batista
The Ultimate Warrior vs Brock Lesnar
Ravishing Rick Rude vs The Undertaker
Andre the Giant vs John Cena
Jake the Snake Roberts vs Bray Wyatt
The Powers of Pain and Mr. Fuji vs The Shield
Demolition vs The Real Americans
The Brain Busters vs The Usos
Strike Force vs Ryback and Curtis Axel
30-Man Battle Royal
Daniel Bryan vs HHH (Winner to face Randy Savage in main event)
On such a card, which match would you most (and least) look forward to? Which match would exceed most people's expectations? Or fall far short?
Would you have a high level of anticipation of the card as it nears or would it fail to interest you? And who should prevail? There are 12 matches,
but with one being strictly current-day, one era will ultimately prevail over the other, but which one should it be? And how does this card compare to
the other fused cards? All thoughts and criticisms welcome. I'll chime in with my own opinions next week.
I guess this counts as a sig.
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Jazzman
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Answering my own questions...
Most anticipated - Savage vs Bryan (Savage vs HHH would be a decent consolation prize but a letdown).
Least anticipated - The Battle Royal
Exceed expectations - Brain Busters-Usos is an overlooked match that could really shine.
Fall short - Strike Force vs Rybaxel. Would have loved to have given Strike Force better opposition.
Level of anticipation - More than last year, and threatening to match the III-XXVIII fused card. Would love to see Savage-Bryan, Roberts-Wyatt,
Rude-Taker, Warrior-Lesnar II, and the top two tag matches. Andre-Cena would be a spectacle. Would like to see The Shield and Strike Force have
better opposition.
My Picks? Discounting the Bryan-HHH match, I favor the WM XXX crew 7-5 overall (7-4 not counting the Battle Royal).
I guess this counts as a sig.
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Just read of all these and there all pretty fun. Personally I think the IV/XXX combination yielded the best results. A lot of money matches there.
Most anticipated - Macho vs a worn out Bryan c ould be the greatest big man vs little man match ever.
Least anticipated - Strike Force vs Rybaxel
Exceed expectations - Warrior vs Lesnar would be amazing and once it happened it would shut up the detractors(the reasonable ones anyway).
Fall short - Andre vs Cena. Cena's doesn't have Hogan's fan support and star power that kept the crowd glued that added to the aura
to what would otherwise be a crappy match.
Level of anticipation-High with an abudance of excting matches in Jake vs Bray, Warrior vs Lesnar, Taker vs Rude, Brain Busters vs The Usos and Savage
vs Bryan.
As for my picks, it goes Perfect,Strike Force, Brain Busters, Demolition, The Shield, Bray Wyatt, Cena, Undertaker, Warrior, Hogan, and Daniel Bryan.
Which gives the WM V guys the win at 6-5.
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Jazzman
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It's time to fuse WMs VI and XXXI. Sticking with the previous rules as much as possible, let's see what we come up with.
Double Main Event
Hulk Hogan vs Brock Lesnar.
and
The Ultimate Warrior vs Roman Reigns
Pairing the matches this way keeps us from having three Warrior-Lensar matches in three years. And while this is a double main event, it's hard
to imagine any match having anywhere as much juice as Hogan-Lesnar.
Next, we pair the most high-profile title matches left on each card. The only other singles "title" match on VI was for the Million Dollar Belt,
meaning we get...
The Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiase vs John Cena
and
Jake the Snake Roberts vs Rusev.
Next, we pair the next-highest singles match of WMVI with that of WMXXXI, leading to a pair of odd-looking matchups, though there is the story of
Perfection vs once-perfection at Mania and of a long-haired personality against a superficial nemesis in
Mr. Perfect vs The Undertaker
and
Brutus the Barber Beefcake vs Bray Wyatt
The next two matches down the card allow for a classic confrontation as well as a class confrontation with some female involvement to a point, which
gives us...
Randy "Macho Man" Savage vs Sting
and
Dusty Rhodes and Sapphire vs HHH and Stephanie McMahon
Getting the tag team titles involved, and considering The Usos are "questionable" for WM XXXI due to injury, the following matchup is put on the
fused card;
Demolition vs Cesaro and Tyson Kidd
That's nine matches. WMVI had 14 televised, WMXXXI looks like it will have 8, so let's add two more to bring it up to an average of 11.
Looking at who the best talent available from the singles matches on each card, that gives a match of
Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Seth Rollins
and to add to the field, let's skip a Brown-Orton match in favor of a seven-man IC ladder match, featuring;
Bad News Barrett vs Daniel Bryan vs Dean Ambrose vs Dolph Ziggler vs Bad News Brown vs Big Boss Man vs Ravishing Rick Rude
Really, I couldn't miss out on Bad News vs Bad News in some form. This is a demotion for Rude, but the same could be said of Bryan, Ziggler,
and others.
So the card in full is
Hulk Hogan vs Brock Lesnar
The Ultimate Warrior vs Roman Reigns
The Million Dollar Man Ted DiBiase vs John Cena
Jake the Snake Roberts vs Rusev
Mr. Perfect vs The Undertaker
Brutus the Barber Beefcake vs Bray Wyatt
Randy "Macho Man" Savage vs Sting
Dusty Rhodes & Sapphire vs HHH & Stephanie McMahon
Demolition vs Cesaro and Tyson Kidd
Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Seth Rollins
Bad News Barrett vs Daniel Bryan vs Dolph Ziggler vs Dean Ambrose vs Bad News Brown vs Big Boss Man vs Ravishing Rick Rude
On such a card, which match would you most (and least) look forward to? Which match would exceed most people's expectations? Or fall far short?
Would you have a high level of anticipation of the card as it nears or would it fail to interest you? And who should prevail? There are 11 matches, so
barring any draws, one era will ultimately prevail over the other, but which one should it be? And how does this card compare to the other fused
cards? All thoughts and criticisms welcome. I'll chime in with my own opinions next week.
I guess this counts as a sig.
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Jazzman
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Answering my own questions...
Most anticipated - Hogan-Brock. The greatest face vs quite possibly the greatest heel in a power showdown that needs no added hype.
Least anticipated - Brutus Beefcake vs Bray Wyatt. Bray can excel with a strong foil but Brutus is not that.
Exceed expectations - Piper-Rollins has every chance to be a hidden gem that fluxuates from mat wrestling to high spots (from Rollins) to a crazy
brawl.
Fall short - Mr. Perfect vs The Undertaker. Hard to imagine even Perfect carrying the 2015 version of Taker to a level that would meet most
people's unrealistic expectations.
Level of anticipation - Not high, probably a 4. This fuses a one-match card with a card that has an oft-criticized main event. As such, you get one
true money match and a lot of lesser-quality matchups. This may be the worst of all the fused cards.
My Picks? I go 6-5 in favor of the WMXXI group.
[Edited on 3-24-2015 by Jazzman]
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I agree with some of your own answers to your own questions, but not others.
Most Anticipated: DiBiase vs. Cena is my pick. I love the main event of Hogan vs. Lesnar, but it is not the match I would anticipate the most because
I've already seen it (granted, it wasn't Hogan in his prime).
Least Anticipated: Beefcake vs. Wyatt is my pick. I agree with you. This would be a colossal waste of time and a wasted opportunity to give us a good
match featuring the New Face of Fear.
Exceed expectations: Rhodes & Sapphire vs. Triple H & Stephanie is my pick. I chose this one over your selection because I don't think many
people would be looking past Piper vs. Rollins and getting surprised at how good the match might turn out, whereas I think the expectations of a good
match would be lower for most people, and I think they would genuinely surprise a lot of folks. Although, it would be much better as a straight up
one-on-one match between Rhodes and Helmsley.
Fall Short: Mr. Perfect vs. The Undertaker is my pick. I still think it has the potential to be really good, but I also recognize that expectations
would be very high and I'm not sold on it being the match of the night.
It really isn't that bad of a card, honestly. I wouldn't be over the moon excited for it, but I would still look forward to it. If Hogan
vs. Lesnar and Savage vs. Sting were matches that had never happened before, I'd be more excited. As it stands, the only real clunkers on your
card are Beefcake vs. Wyatt and Demolition vs. Cesaro & Kidd. I like both of those tag teams, but I don't see them as being good dance partners.
And the biggest let down of all for me is that you've chosen to leave Randy Orton off of the card. If you are just mishmashing the bottom of the
card, then you've missed out and a golden opportunity to give us Orton vs. Rude. I think that match would be excellent!
"Love is making out with someone after you've blown a load on his/her face." - Dan Savage
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jazzman you've been robbed!
I finally got around to reading the latest issue of PWI... and they have a fantasy battle between the WM 1 and WM31 rosters! Wow! It's like
they read your mind!
Join the amazing world of Mash-Up Wrestling!
BROKEN CITY CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING is back...
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Jazzman
Man of a Thousand Holds
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Slade, interesting take. Piper-Rollins or Rude-Orton? If I had to pick only one, I probably go Piper-Rollins, but Rude would be a fascinating
opponent for Orton.
Mastermind, thanks for the info - I was unaware they had done that. I guess I should have copywritten these things. Intellectual property, indeed!
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Jazzman
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Wanted to look this over with WM approaching and realized I didn't do a card last year. Oh, well, better late than never, so let's fuse
WMs VII and XXXII. Sticking with the previous rules as much as possible, let's see what we come up with.
Double Main Event
Hulk Hogan vs HHH
and
Sgt. Slaughter vs Roman Reigns
Each match features a heel champ defending against a face challenger. As basic as it gets. With the added benefit that Reigns faces a heel that
would not get cheered over him.
Next, we pair the most high-profile title matches left on each card. Each card only had one other one-on-one title fight, making for two oddly
intriguing matches
Mr. Perfect vs Kalisto
and
Big Bossman vs Ryback
While WM XXXII didn't have a tag team title match, it did feature the longest-reigning tag team champions in the midst of said reign. So we get
New Day vs The Nasty Boys
Compared to other recent WMs, XXXII had a lot of matches. 12 to WM VII's 14, meaning we need to get 13 matches to average it out.
Next up are the two most high-profile singles matchups remaining. It's not clear-cut at WM XXXII, giving me a little wiggle room. Since
I've already done Warrior-Lesnar twice, let's go
The Ultimate Warrior vs The Undertaker
and
Randy Savage vs Shane McMahon
BTW, I could have, for the first time, gone Undertaker vs Undertaker here but that goes just a bit too far for my taste. Anyway, going this way leads
to the following pair of matches;
Jake Roberts vs Brock Lesnar
and
Rick Martel vs Dean Ambrose
Four more matches to go. Unfortunately, no women's match at WM VII means they get left off this card. So using the same formula of pairing the
next biggest matches against each other, we get a funny combination in
Ted DiBiase vs AJ Styles
and
Virgil vs Chris Jericho
For the final matches, I'll sacrifice some overall star power in favor of match quality and provide a legendary tag team match and a battle of
islanders in
The Rockers vs The Dudley Boyz
and
Haku and The Barbarian vs the Usos
Which gets to 13. This does leave out The Rock (though that "match" was not foreseen in advance of the WM XXXII card and didn't really add
anything), the LOD, and all participants in the WM XXXII IC multiway and battle royal. Not to mention heel Undertaker circa 1991.
So the card in full is
Hulk Hogan vs HHH
Sgt. Slaughter vs Roman Reigns
Mr. Perfect vs Kalisto
Big Bossman vs Ryback
New Day vs The Nasty Boys
Ultimate Warrior vs Undertaker
Randy Savage vs Shane McMahon
Jake Roberts vs Brock Lesnar
Rick Martel vs Dean Ambrose
Ted DiBiase vs AJ Styles
Virgil vs Chris Jericho
The Rockers vs The Dudley Boyz
Haku and Barbarian vs The Usos
On such a card, which match would you most (and least) look forward to? Which match would exceed most people's expectations? Or fall far short?
Would you have a high level of anticipation of the card as it nears or would it fail to interest you? And who should prevail? There are 11 matches, so
barring any draws, one era will ultimately prevail over the other, but which one should it be? And how does this card compare to the other fused
cards? All thoughts and criticisms welcome. I'll chime in with my own opinions next week before beginning to construct the VIII-XXXIII card.
[Edited on 2-10-2017 by Jazzman]
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Jazzman
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Answering my own questions...
Most anticipated - Hogan-HHH. The greatest face vs quite possibly the greatest heel, with each a little past their primes. Similar to a Hogan-Flair
dream match in the early 1990's but with HHH not quite as technical but a lot more physical.
Least anticipated - Slaughter-Reigns. Not a bad match but not what 1/2 of a double main event should be, and the booking is obvious.
Exceed expectations - DiBiase-Styles could get lost in the pre-hype shuffle but this one should be outstanding.
Fall short - New Day-Nasties. New Day could carry the Nasties to a degree but their styles don't mesh.
Level of anticipation - Depends on your perception of Hogan-HHH. I get how some would relish it while others think it features overhyped performers.
I like it and it would carry a pretty well rounded card to a 7 for me.
My Picks? I go 7-6 in favor of the WMXII group.
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Slade
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quote:
Originally posted by Jazzman
So the card in full is
Hulk Hogan vs HHH
Sgt. Slaughter vs Roman Reigns
Mr. Perfect vs Kalisto
Big Bossman vs Ryback
New Day vs The Nasty Boys
Ultimate Warrior vs Undertaker
Randy Savage vs Shane McMahon
Jake Roberts vs Brock Lesnar
Rick Martel vs Dean Ambrose
Ted DiBiase vs AJ Styles
Virgil vs Chris Jericho
The Rockers vs The Dudley Boyz
Haku and Barbarian vs The Usos
Your rules be damned. I think you'd get a much better show by shifting wrestlers from either era up and down the card. Here's how I would
do it:
Hulk Hogan vs. Roman Reigns
Sgt. Slaughter vs. Triple H
Ultimate Warrior vs. The Undertaker
Randy Savage vs. AJ Styles
Jake Roberts vs. Dean Ambrose
Mr. Perfect vs. Brock Lesnar
Ted DiBiase vs. Shane McMahon (Money, money, money, money, money! vs. Here comes the MONEY! Money, Money, hey! Money, Money, Hey!)
Rick Martel vs. Chris Jericho
Big Bossman vs. Kevin Owens (who was IC Champ going into the event)
Haku & Barbarian vs. The New Day
The Nasty Boys vs. Dudley Boyz (in a hardcore shmoz)
The Rockers vs. The Usos
I think you get many more compelling matchups with better chances at quality bouts - especially Savage vs. Styles - and better sports entertainment
things too - like DiBiase vs. McMahon and The Model vs. Y2J.
Just because I rebooked nearly everything doesn't mean I don't think your card is without merit. Ultimate Warrior vs. The Undertaker is a
big money match and I'd be all in for Macho Man vs. Shane-O-Mac. I also don't think New Day vs. The Nasty Boys is that bad an idea,
honestly. I think Jake Roberts vs. Brock Lesnar falls short of both of those guys are capable of doing. I think booking them against each other
doesn't work to either of their strengths. I think I would be least interested in the Big Bossman vs. Ryback.
"Love is making out with someone after you've blown a load on his/her face." - Dan Savage
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Jazzman
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I do like this card, especially Savage-Styles, Roberts-Ambrose, and the oddly-historic Brock-Perfect. It does largely circumvent my self-imposed
rules (which I myself have done from time to time), but we're all here to have fun and challenge our creativity.
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Jazzman
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Time for the WM VIII-WM XXXIII fused card! Same rules as always.
Double Main Event
Hulk Hogan vs Brock Lesnar
and
Sid Justice vs Goldberg
I hated that Hulk-Sid was the ME instead of the title match, but it works all right here to give us some epic hoss battles, with a Hogan-Brock rematch
from two years ago.
Next, the highest-profile title matches remaining on each card give us some really interesting matches in
Ric Flair vs Randy Orton
and
Randy Savage vs Bray Wyatt
Time for the tag team title matches. WM XXXIII features a triple-threat tag title match, so one of the challengers will have to be left out.
I'll keep the team that makes for the more interesting challenge for the WM VIII champs.
Money Inc. vs Cesaro & Sheamus
and
The Natural Disasters vs Gallows & Anderson
That's six matches. WM VIII had 10, WM XXXIII will have thirteen, so the sweet spot will be eleven.
While there are higher profile matches on the WM XXXIII card based on hype, if not fan interest, the secondary title matches are just too good to
ignore. That gets us these two gems;
Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Chris Jericho
and
Bret Hart vs Kevin Owens
This is very RAW-heavy so far, but honestly, the Smackdown side of WM XXXIII does not lend itself as well to the fused card, and that trend will
continue here. The next most heavily-hyped matches present a problem that I will handle in the most straightforward way possible.
The Undertaker (1992) vs Roman Reigns
and
The Undertaker (2017) vs Jake Roberts
One match to go. No prominent women on the WM VIII card means no women's match. Or mixed tag. Instead, I'll use a little 20/20
hindsight and elevate someone to create a match that was actually rumored for a while for this year.
Shawn Michaels vs AJ Styles
That's the eleven. No Cena, no Miz, no Rollins or HHH, no women, no Ambrose on the XXXIII side, though the VIII side doesn't seem to have
any glaring omissions.
So the card in full is
Hulk Hogan vs Brock Lesnar II
Sid Justice vs Goldberg
Ric Flair vs Randy Orton
Randy Savage vs Bray Wyatt
Money Inc. vs Cesaro & Sheamus
Natural Disasters vs Gallows & Anderson
Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Chris Jericho
Bret Hart vs Kevin Owens
Undertaker (1992) vs Roman Reigns
Undertaker (2017) vs Jake Roberts
Shawn Michaels vs AJ Styles
On such a card, which match would you most (and least) look forward to? Which match would exceed most people's expectations? Or fall far short?
Would you have a high level of anticipation of the card as it nears or would it fail to interest you? And who should prevail? There are 11 matches, so
barring any draws, one era will ultimately prevail over the other, but which one should it be? And how does this card compare to the other fused
cards? All thoughts and criticisms welcome. I'll chime in with my own opinions soon since it's close to WM Sunday already.
[Edited on 3-31-2017 by Jazzman]
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Jazzman
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Answering my own questions;
Most anticipated - lots to choose from IMO but I'll go Piper-Jericho. Piper was an underrated wrestler, both are technically faces with a lot
of edge, and this could really produce.
Least anticipated - Sid-Goldberg. Nothing we've seen from Goldberg indicates he is ready for a WM main event in 2017. Sid is not an opponent
who can hide that.
Exceed expectations - It's not so much that expectations would be low, but I think Taker-Jake would get overlooked. I bet these grizzled
veterans would be able to pull out a lot of tricks to get to a pretty intense match. Honorable mention here to Disasters-Gallows & Anderson, which I
think could be a surprisingly good strong match.
Fall short - I have to pick Sid-Goldberg again. I would have no illusions about this being a great, good, average, or serviceable match but I think
younger fans might.
Level of excitement - really high, actually. The main events feature one good matchup and one poor one but most everything else about this card I
really like. Flair-Orton could produce Orton's best career match and tell a heckuva story. Savage-Wyatt would be all sorts of crazy in the
best possible sense. Bret-Owens and Shawn-AJ would be must-see in two very different types of matches. And the twin Taker matches would be gimmicky
but still compelling, again in two totally different ways. The stories that these matches could tell seem incredible. I will call this a 9.5/10 -
replacing Sid-Goldberg with Rollins-Perfect would have made this a 10+. (I know Perfect didn't wrestle at the time, but no other foe on WM VIII
would have been worthy for the Architect).
My picks? - 6-5 for the WM VIII class.
[Edited on 3-31-2017 by Jazzman]
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