shashwat mishra
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The TV and Cruiserweight Titles
Anyone else feel that the WWE should introduce the long dead WCW TV Title and a variant of the Cruiser-Weight Title / X Division Title exclusive to
RAW? The titles would be defended only on RAW and not on any pay-per-view.
That would enable them to fill in about 30 minutes of great wrestling because the titles would be held by promising mid card talents.
These segments could also be isolated from the rest of the roster (especially the main event guys) and have their own stories etc. There could be a
lot of high flying exciting wrestling happening here without the need to tie it all up to push to a monthly event.
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CCharger
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This would be great. The WCW TV Title was one of my favorites growing up.
Unfortunately, the WWE doesn't have much interest in televising wrestling. They'd have to cut the segment-long StepHHH promo or a few
plugs for the Network.
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Matte
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I think they have enough titles as it is, but if they swap the US title for a TV title, sure. I'm undecided on the idea of a cruiser/X title,
because I think reintroducing the weight categories might put limits on some of the roster. Instead of Neville one day fighting for the world title,
they'll just make him their God-tier cruiser champ. The X title idea does dismiss weight limits as a thing, but realistically, it'll be
the cruiserweight belt under a different name.
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shashwat mishra
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Well, they seem to get lukewarm reactions at many arenas.
Mixing things up with two exclusive divisions gives them an opportunity to do something different by hiking up the wrestling quotient within an
otherwise talky entertainment oriented show.
The Cruiserweight/X Division variant would also give them an opportunity to showcase wrestlers who would otherwise not stand a realistic chance at
being main event prospects from the "Creative's" viewpoint. It will have some fun high flying action.
The TV Title could achieve the same for the heavier guys. Come out and defend every week, have an awesome 17-20 minute match and suddenly you might
have some legit new superstars.
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Nobledictator1278
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Some random thoughts on this convo:
If you add the TV title match it is imperative you add the 15 minute time limit rule. I always thought it gave a little something extra to the
match, and gave them a great way to protect folks and make folks look good.
I think the cruiserweight title helps nobody, and instead those that would be cruisers you don't have anything really for, create some tag
teams.
I also think they should add some sort of ranking system for each title, and have rules for each title. For example if you can defend the US title
for 10 pinfalls....or X (where is is whatever your qualifier is) then you are entitled to a World title match. I thnk they should merge US and IC
into one...and introduce the TV title and have each title be like a path to another title.
Rankings allow matches (especially throw away ones) have more meaning. They should also keep wins and losses, DQ wins, DQ losses on each wrestler and
have that be under their name when they come out.
I think one of the main things wrestling lacks right now, especially with how saturated the product is, is motivation for the wrestlers. Adding this
type of system would provide natural motivation.
Death feuds should be fewer, so that they mean more, the majority of the motivation for these wrestlers should be to move up or down to the world
title, which should always be top motivation. They can even have a system by which to move NXT guys up with the NXT belt, or move folks down to NXT.
This will keep fresh feuds in NXT so that new guys dont' get lost in the shuffle, and allow wrestlers that need to a chance to reinvent
themselves.
So every so often if a wrestler loses like 10 matches or so, maybe they have to face a NXT call up if they win they stay on the WWE roster if they
lose they go down to NXT....or vice versa have a loser goes to NXT match with talent.
Finally they should devote a hour and a half on both shows total, and maybe half a hour on their Superstars or Main event show just for Tag teams.
The tag team division is better, but its still lacking, right now everything tag team is really involving the World title....there is no true chase
for it. Providing more time for it allows other teams and a division to start.
Finally they have a very talented womens roster I think they would do well with a hour on both shows total weekly too (45 on raw, 15 on smackdown)
It amazes me they have all the time in the world and only focus on a select few talents. I think wrestlers 80% of the time should only wrestle on one
of the two shows that would prevent over saturating their matches.
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the goon
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quote:
Originally posted by Matte
I'm undecided on the idea of a cruiser/X title, because I think reintroducing the weight categories might put limits on some of the roster.
Instead of Neville one day fighting for the world title, they'll just make him their God-tier cruiser champ.
quote:
Originally posted by Nobledictator1278
I think the cruiserweight title helps nobody, and instead those that would be cruisers you don't have anything really for, create some tag
teams.
I'm of the same opinion regarding the cruiserweight title. It was a novel concept in WCW and made for some great matches, but I think that it
gives too much of a "little guy" stigma to the wrestlers competing for it. And I know that some wrestlers successfully made the transition from
cruiserweight wrestler to world champion (Eddie, Jericho, Rey) but they all had to overcome that "they're not big enough/tall enough/strong
enough" stigma before getting there.
And going with what Matte said, right now a guy like Neville can be a pretty believable uppercard guy who can hang with the big boys when needed. But
if he was cruiserweight champion and/or only competing with other smaller guys for that belt, it would make him look a tier below guys like Cena,
Reigns, Sheamus, etc.
Nash is only a few inches bigger than JBL and depending on how stiff he gets Punk should be able to take it. -JB King, meant in a totally non-sexual
way
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shashwat mishra
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Some interesting ideas there guys.
A 15 minute time limit would add a sense of urgency to the TV Title Match. They may keep a longer time limit on special occasions to put on a classic.
Also agree with the idea that the major motivation for everyone should always be to win the titles and feuds should result from that.
The Cruiserweight or say a X Division title without a weight restriction would put some legitimacy on wrestlers who are just used as fodder for the
push of the month freak.
There will be a few who would break through all ceilings anyway but having a division within the show could offer a different style of wrestling and
for fans and there could be lengthy title reigns for the deserving who could build some kind of legacy. Look at Dolph Ziggler for instance. They
don't take him seriously enough but he would own the X Division.
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Wickedfrost
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Isn't this really just NXT now?
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CM Crunk
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Quite frankly, I'm disappointed at the lack of follow-up we've gotten after
Rusev walked out of the Royal Rumble with the TV Title.
Between grabbing that TV monitor, bringing in Vince for the bro-hug, and his "Steve Holt!/O'Doyle Rules!" double fist pump after splashing
Roman through the table at the Rumble and just about everything else Rusev does, he SHOULD be the TV champion. I love this guy.
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Dominator
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The last thing WWE needs right now is more secondary singles titles. They can barely book what they have now.
This is not youth league soccer. Everyone doesn't need to have a trophy.
[Edited on 2-2-2016 by Dominator]
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TexShark300
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I think the Cruiser Era is dead. That fast pace/workrate style is slowing bleeding over to the Main Event scene.
And I really think WWE was turning the US title into a defacto TV title. Defended nearly every week (either Raw or SD) and usually in a solid match.
Hopefully the trend continues under Kalisto/Del Rio
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Cherokee Jack
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NO MORE MIDCARD TITLES. If anything, they really should just unify the US/IC titles and call it a day.
A cruiserweight division/title could be a lot of fun, but do you trust Vince & Co. to not fuck it up (i.e. booking it as a comedy
sideshow/jobbing the champ out to whatever main eventer he thinks needs to look stronger)?
[Edited on 2-3-2016 by Cherokee Jack]
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GodEatGod
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I agree that there's no need for more midcard titles.
I do think the booking of them should change significantly. While long title reigns help the legitimacy of the world championship, to me, the midcard
should be competitive and exciting and relatively even. They love even-steven booking anyway, so why not have frequent title changes? It helps with
the anything can happen vibe, gives guys something to put on their resumes, and it can make the belts seem like they matter in a different way if a
bunch of guys are always chasing it and trading it back and forth. It was kind of a hallmark of the Attitude Era and, while I'm one of the
first to call out rose colored glasses on the nostalgia, that is an element that I think the product could sorely use now, especially as a contrast
now that they seem to prefer long, stable world title reigns (outside of the most recent Reigns ones, of course).
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coxito
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So the rumors of a cruiserweight show for the network are making the rounds again. No discussion of a title but more tournament style
http://pwslam.com/wwe-revive-cruiserweight-division-year/
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shashwat mishra
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Whether it is a Mid Card Title (Television Title) or a weight specific Cruiserweight Title or even the Tag Titles, having 6-8 contenders in each who
have clear positioning and are fairly competitive would allow the WWE to:
1) Have strong lower cards for Events
2) Create new fan favorites who may otherwise get lost in the mix
3) Have additional content to put on TV
4) Build more credibility for a larger part of their roster
I find it funny how often Tag Teams or Lightweights are simply used as cannon fodder. Even in a scripted sport a regular Team should be able to beat 2
superstars who have just been randomly teamed up together because of superior teamwork.
I remember fearing for the Harts when they fought the Quebecers and the Steiners. Now you would expect say Ziggler and Ambrose to easily lay the
smackdown on any Tag Team Champs.
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In a world without TV-PG bring back the hardcore title with the 24/7 rule.
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