shashwat mishra
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posted on 3-3-2016 at 09:37 AM |
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Time to book AJ Styles/Jericho Vs Wyatts Vs New Day Vs Dudleys in a Wrestlemania Tag team spectacular involving tables, chairs and ladders. That would
be loved by the audience.
Would not also mind a 5 Vs 5 mixed Tag Team freebie (2 guys and 3 hotties in each side).
Will continue to hope for Samoa Joe / Finn Balor to also be part of mania. May be in the MITB.
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Count Zero
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posted on 3-3-2016 at 11:36 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by shashwat mishra
Time to book AJ Styles/Jericho Vs Wyatts Vs New Day Vs Dudleys in a Wrestlemania Tag team spectacular involving tables, chairs and ladders. That would
be loved by the audience.
I.. would kinda really like to see that happen, except you have to stick the Usos in there, since they need
"payback" for the Dudleys turning on them. So it's either a 5 team clusterfuck with 2 Wyatts + 1 Xavier + 1 trombone at ringside, or just put
the Wyatts somewhere else.
I can't lie, though, Tag Team TLC Turmoil is a hell of a thought.
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shashwat mishra
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posted on 3-3-2016 at 03:13 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Count Zero
... or just put the Wyatts somewhere else.
I can't lie, though, Tag Team TLC Turmoil is a hell of a thought.
The Wyatts need to be rebuilt as credible. Let Bray go into MITB. Luke Harper and Rowan can be the evil monster Tag Team Champs who get chased by
Styles and Jericho with New Day getting plaguedpost Wrestlemania by Goldust/R Truth (don't kill me )
Bret Hart - Best Ever, Undertaker - Most Memorable, The Rock - Most Entertaining.
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posted on 3-5-2016 at 12:07 AM |
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I just got an e-mail from WWE Network. Brock vs. Bray Wyatt at WWE Roadblock.
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Fifth Horseman
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Random fantasy thought about the Shane/Taker match: Taker wins. Vince comes out on Raw the next night and gloats about it. Shane comes out and
outsmarts the old man (a la WCW) by declaring that the full clause was as follows: if he won, he got Raw. But if he lost, he got Smackdown.
If USA really wants two good WWE products, they have to make Smackdown more than just a glorified recap show, right? You can tease a brand split, and
you can shoot/work the fact that Smackdown is the B-show, but Shane is going to make it better.
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salmonjunkie
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That would be a pretty good idea. It'd be even better if Paul Heyman was allowed to or had any interest in booking Smackdown again.
If they do a brand split again, though, it'd be best if they only had one world champion that can appear on either show, with the IC and US
titles being brand exclusives. Kind of like how they had the brand split at first.
I don't know if I think a brand split is the best idea, but they do have a lot of talent right now, and a good portion of them don't get a
chance to shine. It can work, but can THEY make it work?
[Edited on 3-5-2016 by salmonjunkie]
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Fifth Horseman
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posted on 3-5-2016 at 11:38 PM |
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Anything brand split probably deserves its own thread. But this is the current roster, and I haven't included any of the 25 or so NXT people...
in my opinion, they DO have enough contracted talent to make it work.
ACTIVE:
Adam Rose
AJ Styles
Alberto Del Rio
Big Show
Bo Dallas
Braun Strowman
Bray Wyatt
Brock Lesnar
Cesaro
Curtis Axel
Damien Sandow
Darren Young
Dean Ambrose
Dolph Ziggler
Erick Rowan
Fandango
Heath Slater
Jack Swagger
John Cena
Kane
Kevin Owens
Luke Harper
Mark Henry
Neville
Randy Orton
Roman Reigns
R-Truth
Rusev
Ryback
Seth Rollins
Sheamus
Stardust
The Miz
Titus O�Neill
Tyler Breeze
Wade Barrett
Zack Ryder
TEAMS:
Big E/Kofi Kingston/Xavier Woods
Bubba Ray/D-Von Dudley
Jimmy/Jey Uso
Kallisto/Sin Cara
Konnor/Viktor
Primo/Epico Colon
DIVAS:
Alicia Fox
Becky Lynch
Brie Bella
Charlotte
Naomi
Natalya
Paige
Sasha Banks
Summer Rae
Tamina
SEMI-ACTIVE:
Chris Jericho
Goldust
The Rock
The Undertaker
Triple H
Tyson Kidd
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quote: Originally posted by shashwat mishra
The Wyatts need to be rebuilt as credible.
I don't think the problem is necessarily that the Wyatts need to be rebuilt as credible, because they do win a lot and 95% of the time are
booked really strong (unless the opponent is Cena or Taker/Kane). I think the problem is that the Wyatts never actually do anything. They just
kind of go from feud to feud, Bray rambles about whoever his opponent is, and then they move on to the next guy, rinse and repeat.
And of course, this issue can be blamed more on WWE creative than on the guys themselves. But outside of Erick Rowan's brief run as a face,
there has been zero change or evolution in the Wyatts' characters. Adding Braun Strowman was interesting for maybe a few weeks, but other than
that they're still the exact same guys they were when they debuted on WWE TV nearly three years ago and to me it's just getting kind of
boring at this point. For a comparison, look at how much someone like the Rock or Triple H or even Kane evolved over a three year period after they
debuted; but with Bray Wyatt, there is no difference between 2013 Bray and 2016 Bray.
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Just regarding the brand split, the problem with doing one (besides the fact that Smackdown will always be considered the B Show and, therefore, not
really all that important) is that WWE has sabotaged itself. Of the list provided of active roster members, here are the ones that haven't been
jobbed out of relevancy/still get a reaction:
quote:
ACTIVE:
AJ Styles
Alberto Del Rio
Braun Strowman
Bray Wyatt
Brock Lesnar
Dean Ambrose
Dolph Ziggler (kinda?)
John Cena
Kallisto
Kevin Owens
Neville (even more kinda than Ziggler?)
Randy Orton (if he comes back)
Roman Reigns (relevant in WWE's mind only)
Ryback
Seth Rollins
Sheamus
TEAMS:
Big E/Kofi Kingston/Xavier Woods
Bubba Ray/D-Von Dudley
DIVAS:
Becky Lynch
Charlotte
Paige
Sasha Banks
SEMI-ACTIVE:
Chris Jericho
The Undertaker
Triple H
You could do a brand split, but forget any idea of it helping anyone who's name isn't listed on the edited list above.
You're looking at those names being split between two shows, where the first one will involve only properly featuring five or six of those guys
in the span of a three hour show, while the other one will be on a two hour show that is almost as likely to feature recaps of the three hour show for
most of it than it is to properly use the half of the roster it takes.
WWE struggled to put on one good show a month using a large assortment of guys. Two rosters? They're not capable of it as they stand now,
creatively.
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Sunday.
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SpiNNeR72
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They already have a really effective brand split with NXT, lets hope they leave it at that.
Its a shame about the shit WWE title match because the rest of the card is building up quite well, there will almost certainly be a Dudleys Tables
match, the Women should be given a decent chance to shine, HIAC, and it looks more and more like we will be getting Owens/Zayn for the IC title.
Personally I think they could fix the lagging ticket sales, and all the other issues, by simply reassuring us that we are not gonna end the night with
Reigns in the ring.
Taker/Shane would be the obvious alternative.
How much do you guys think it matters that the title match goes on last?
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shashwat mishra
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The Title Match should and will go on last. It undermines the importance of the belt any other way. Also, Roman may cry in case it does not. And
Hunter Hearst will not be able to tell his grandchildren about how he fought Achilles.
If we have a rock solid and entertaining show preceding the Title Match, people will likely give it chance and have some fun throughout by trolling
both competitors.
I am unable to believe that there will be any mass walkout - 1) given that people spend hard earned money and will watch till the end even if it is a
trainwreck and 2) there may be thousands of casual fans who are in just for the spectacle.
The way things are shaping up, the show looks unworthy of being Wrestlemania.
Sure Brock-Ambrose is good but Taker Vs Shane? How is one supposed to buy Shane as a credible competitor to Undertaker unless we have Royal Rumble
1994 scenario where the entire locker room comes out to put down the Undertaker. Even then, Undertaker taking a loss to Shane is lame.
I am still hoping for:
1) A 4 way Tag Match involving Tables, Chairs and Ladders
2) An amazing US Title Match (zero build up yet)
3) An amazing Intercontinental Title Match (zero build up yet)
4) A divas spectacular
5) A fun match - maybe 5 vs 5 mixed Tag or something (I dunno)
6) Samoa Joe / Finn Balor / Shinsuke Nakamura being part of something meaningful and making their presence felt
If nothing materializes and most of the matches are just last second patch ups, this has the potential to be the worst Wrestlemania in a long long
time (may be since Wrestlemania 9).
Bret Hart - Best Ever, Undertaker - Most Memorable, The Rock - Most Entertaining.
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janerd75
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If Vince and Co. don't involve Titus at WM in some way they are a bunch of petty stupid doodoo headed dumdums. If the hypothetical Sting
interference doesn't happen to help Shane with Taker, I don't see why it couldn't be Titus. While he may not be a big deal in the
current roster hierarchy, I think enough people are aware of his current situation that he'd be in the perfect position to stick it to Vince.
Not trying to resurrect the "was it okay or not" aspect of his suspension, but this is wrasslin' and the real world blending into storylines
is one of its main bread and butter tropes. Sure, he doesn't have to be a big deal going forward, other than a PTP resurrection or being
Shane's right hand man/bodyguard for a while, but I think he could be used in some important capacity other than a surprise entrant to the Andre
Paycheck Invitational Battle Royal to get a nice feelgood pop, though I would take that too. Seems like too good of a dude to marginalize right now.
http://rapzilla.com/rz/features/interviews/12893-titus-o-neil-s-faith-character-speak-louder-than-wwe-s-60-day-suspension
And since I've been on the red phone to Jebus all day trying in earnest to get Florida vaporized before the Gawker trial infection spreads,
I'll put in a good word for Titus too. While I'm on the horn, anybody got any other requests for shit they need from J-Roc the Saviour?
Trump's or Hillary's head popping Scanners style at a debate? The plans the Mossad drew up for
Cheney on a napkin showing where they'd put the shaped charges in the Towers? Barry's college transcripts? Angle helping Shane at WM?
Also, for what it's worth, I thought the website's name was Rapezilla which, in a bygone era, would have been a great wrestling gimmick.
Maybe work with ol' Buck Zumhofe as a tag team called The Penetrators.
Roy, my boy, that's how it's done, son.
The science is settled: Fuck Everybody
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CCharger
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Not trolling, but honestly want to know:
Is this #WrestlemaniaWalkout thing really a thing? Or is it some IWC fever dream? If you had tickets to Mania this year, would you walk out? Would
Vince even notice? Or even care?
When it Reigns, it bores.
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janerd75
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posted on 3-11-2016 at 03:19 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by CCharger
Not trolling, but honestly want to know:
Is this #WrestlemaniaWalkout thing really a thing? Or is it some IWC fever dream? If you had tickets to Mania this year, would you walk out? Would
Vince even notice? Or even care?
That's seriously a thing? Holy shit that's retarded. It's one fucking match, and you'd blow your ticket price, travel, food,
and hotel expense to be a right cunt? Fer chrissakes. Just boo the goddamned thing like Brock/Lesnar, sit on your hands, or, I don't know
maybe enjoy Reigns and Haitch knocking the piss out of each other. I'm not happy with them in the title match, but bah gawd Almighty King, the
entitlement!
Dunno, but I think we're getting the now predictably unpredictable pre-WM swerve at Roadblock and either Dean and Brock are getting added to the
mix in a four-way or Dean's winning it outright.
The science is settled: Fuck Everybody
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punkerhardcore
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quote: Originally posted by janerd75
That's seriously a thing? Holy shit that's retarded. It's one fucking match, and you'd blow your ticket price, travel, food,
and hotel expense to be a right cunt? Fer chrissakes. Just boo the goddamned thing like Brock/Lesnar, sit on your hands, or, I don't know
maybe enjoy Reigns and Haitch knocking the piss out of each other. I'm not happy with them in the title match, but bah gawd Almighty King, the
entitlement!
Ehhhh, I dunno. I mean, I doubt it's actually a thing (or at least not big enough to where it would be noticeable)... but it's the last
match of the night, so not a huge deal to miss it. With the preshow, you'd probably be there for nearly five hours anyway, so I wouldn't
say it's a waste of ticket, hotel, travel, etc.
It'd be like going to one of those Summer radio station rock festivals, but the headliner is Limp Bizkit. Of course you're fucking going
to leave before they come on.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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quote: Originally posted by CCharger
Not trolling, but honestly want to know:
Is this #WrestlemaniaWalkout thing really a thing? Or is it some IWC fever dream? If you had tickets to Mania this year, would you walk out? Would
Vince even notice? Or even care?
I couldn't see anyone who even paid x-amount of dollars for ringside seats to do something that stupid at a RAW or SD, much less something like
Mania where you're looking at probably a couple hundred bucks each for even the crappy seats. And it would have to happen at ringside, not in
the bleachers, to get it on camera so it "means something". But it means nothing and, no, Vince & StepHHH & Bukkky don't care in the
slightest. Because WM weekend is going to be it's usual amount of fun with the fan interaction festivities, the HOF ceremony, the show itself,
and then the potentially wacky-as-hell following RAW. They'll make a ton of money and most of the fans will go home happy so why should they
waste a second at all of time and energy on what some gripe sites on the internet or twitter keep going on and on and on about.
If I pay money to be at that show then the worst I'm doing is booing the shit out of Reigns when he enters, and that's it. I don't
need to be thought of as that fat idiot in a football jersey (Rick commented on it and compared him to Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons) at ringside
who kept turning his back on Cena during a RAW four or five or six years ago. Making this silliness the ethical equivalent of Greenpeace interfering
with a whaling ship is something only a classic mom's-basement dweller or borderline Eric Cartman-type would think to be appropriate.
It's a pretend fighting league. Some of it's viewers need to seriously grow the fuck up about it already.
[Edited on 3/11/2016 by Paddlefoot]
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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janerd75
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quote: Originally posted by punkerhardcore
quote: Originally posted by janerd75
That's seriously a thing? Holy shit that's retarded. It's one fucking match, and you'd blow your ticket price, travel, food,
and hotel expense to be a right cunt? Fer chrissakes. Just boo the goddamned thing like Brock/Lesnar, sit on your hands, or, I don't know
maybe enjoy Reigns and Haitch knocking the piss out of each other. I'm not happy with them in the title match, but bah gawd Almighty King, the
entitlement!
Ehhhh, I dunno. I mean, I doubt it's actually a thing (or at least not big enough to where it would be noticeable)... but it's the last
match of the night, so not a huge deal to miss it. With the preshow, you'd probably be there for nearly five hours anyway, so I wouldn't
say it's a waste of ticket, hotel, travel, etc.
It'd be like going to one of those Summer radio station rock festivals, but the headliner is Limp Bizkit. Of course you're fucking going
to leave before they come on.
Yeah, that makes sense too, but don't they have aftershow stuff like at Raw when the show's over on tv? Regardless, I'm gonna go
full obtuse and say that a straight up Reigns/HHH match for the title is 100% not happening anyway. Fuckery will ensue. Somehow. It has to.
quote: Originally posted by Paddlefoot
It's a pretend fighting league. Some of it's viewers need to seriously grow the fuck up about it already.
Wait, what? Y u do dis.
ETA: Uh, just broke out in a cold sweat on Dom's behalf, but anyone know the whereabouts of Tantrum McDuffledeuce a.k.a. The Esteemed Mr. Cunt
Dunkleman?
[Edited on 3-11-2016 by janerd75]
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shashwat mishra
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posted on 3-15-2016 at 06:58 AM |
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So this is where we stand:
Triple H vs. Roman Reigns
The Undertaker vs. Shane McMahon (Hell in a Cell)
Brock Lesnar vs. Dean Ambrose (Street Fight)
Charlotte vs. Becky Lynch vs. Sasha Banks
Andre the Giant Battle Royal
Possible:
A.J. Styles vs. Chris Jericho
Kalisto vs. Ryback for the U.S. Title
Kevin Owens Vs Sami Zayn for the IC Title
Roman gets crowned and booed. HHH is crowned Emperor of Emperors.
The Undertaker loses and I cry myself to sleep
Brock Lesnar will beat Ambrose because Lesnar losing only emphasizes the total pointlessness of his conquering the streak ages ago. Ambrose winning
would mean putting him in the Title picture to lose and to lose and to lose some more to The Gladiator Roman Reigns. So Ambrose loses and Lesnar
wins.
Sasha Banks will give the fans something to cheer for by winning the title. The NXT women's champ gets involved somehow?
Dolph Ziggler or Bray Wyatt win the Battle Royal only to eat lollipops for the rest of the year.
Who wants to see Ryback kill Kallisto? Vince.
With Roman and Ryback winning on the same night, Vince will get younger.
AJ Styles and Chris Jericho ends in Jericho going away
Or not. May be it ends with the formation of the WWE Finn Balor Bullet Club
Kevin Owens will do a great job as always.
[Edited on 3-15-2016 by shashwat mishra]
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williamssl
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Usos vs. Dudley's is the confirmed 6th match, to add to your "known" list above.
And don't forget the potential and super exciting 6-Diva tag match!
Don't Mess With Texas
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shashwat mishra
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A better card than Wrestlemania 9.
That however is an easy event to top.
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ulsterphil
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I reckon that Mark Henry will win the Andre Battle Royal, just to make the home crowd happy. Ish.
At least thats the sensible thing to do. But we rarely see WWE and sensible on the same page these days.
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Braun Strowman.
Don't Mess With Texas
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First 9
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Henry winning would actually work on several levels. Hometown boy pop, can allow for another show of strength to end the match on a memorable note,
and adds some gravitas to Henry. After WM, HHH and Lesnar will likely be gone until SummerSlam and guys like Orton and Rollins still won't be
ready to come back which means a combination of Show/Kane/Henry will be repushed to fill out some slots.
Lesnar vs Ambrose really can go either way can it? Ambrose needs a big win after lost after lost, but the only thing left after beating Brock Lesnar
is the WWE Title which will be held by another face. The Wyatts are neutered, the LON are a joke, there is nothing that a Beast slaying Ambrose could
do but chase the Title.
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janerd75
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quote: Originally posted by First 9
Lesnar vs Ambrose really can go either way can it? Ambrose needs a big win after lost after lost, but the only thing left after beating Brock Lesnar
is the WWE Title which will be held by another face.
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They've quietly officially confirmed a few matches on wwe.com over the past few days, so now we have:
HHH/Reigns
Shane/Taker
Ambrose/Lesnar
Sasha/Charlotte/Lynch
Kalisto / Ryback
Andre Battle Royal
New Day / League of Nations (4 on 3 ,for tag titles?)
Uso's / Dudleys
Still to be confirmed:
AJ/Y2J
Owens/Zayn (Plus Miz/Dolph?)
Divas 6 woman tag
I imagine Dudleys / Uso's and 6 Woman tag will be the kickoff matches...
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