punkerhardcore
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quote:
Originally posted by the goon
And I'm kind of fascinated by Reigns/Triple H, just because I don't see any way this doesn't get shit on by 100,000 people in a
month (though I guess they have time to turn it around).
They'll cheer HHH and boo Roman, just like they did tonight. Only it'll be way, way louder at Mania.
I mean, you have a guy fans are dying to cheer, and another guy who people are, at best, kinda sorta mild about. I'll never understand why
they'll go with the latter over and over again.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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CM Crunk
Man of a Thousand Holds
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Aside from the sword of damocles ending, there was some really fun stuff in that match. But man, that ending...
Taking a brief look into the near future, it looks like the "Road To Wrestlemania" is going to make stops in Chicago (3/7), Pittsburgh (3/14),
Philadelphia (3/21), and Brooklyn (3/28)... Should be, uh, loud I guess.
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the goon
Sister Act
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quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore
quote:
Originally posted by the goon
And I'm kind of fascinated by Reigns/Triple H, just because I don't see any way this doesn't get shit on by 100,000 people in a
month (though I guess they have time to turn it around).
They'll cheer HHH and boo Roman, just like they did tonight. Only it'll be way, way louder at Mania.
I dunno, even if the WrestleMania crowd doesn't shit on Triple H/Reigns, I could see it being like Triple H/Orton from WrestleMania 25;
basically an apathetic reaction. I just feel like there's going to be enough smarks in the crowd who aren't going to rally behind a
retired 46 year-old just because he's not Roman Reigns.
Nash is only a few inches bigger than JBL and depending on how stiff he gets Punk should be able to take it. -JB King, meant in a totally non-sexual
way
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CamstunPWG187
Man of a Thousand Holds
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quote:
Originally posted by S Kid J E T S 48
quote:
Originally posted by CamstunPWG187
Reigns almost beat Brock at Mania?
Am I misremembering?
"The best part of having your own network is being able to rewrite history" _ Vince K McMahon.
"The best part of having your own account on the internet is being able to rewrite history." -- Donald Trump
lol jk 
I mean, Brock was bleeding and Reigns was rallying. It's not really a leap in words.
Brock through table and out of the match for a bit...Royal Rumble redux?
[Edited on 2-22-2016 by S Kid J E T S 48]
Reigns rallied into an F-5 and then Rollins came out. Hardly counts as "almost winning"
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S Kid J E T S 48
The Immortal One 
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quote:
Originally posted by CamstunPWG187 Reigns rallied into an F-5 and then Rollins came out. Hardly counts as "almost winning"
Reigns got hit with a couple of chair shots and then hit the spear and won tonight.
Anything is almost.
In case everyone unsubscribed to the WWE Network immediately after the PPV tonight, Edge and Christian show was somewhere between so-so and decent for
a first outing.
[Edited on 2-22-2016 by S Kid J E T S 48]
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TonyTH
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Maaan, that result is just such a bummer. And you can see the crowd fucking go from disappointment to apathy really quickly there. People have been
"meh" to mild on Reigns, but this was a last little bit of hope. And then it sets in after the pin. Reigns vs HHH is the Main Evnt at Wrestlemania.
I really hope the rest of the card is good.
Edit: Also when Ambrose is hitting Lesnar with the chair, crowd cheers. When he starts wailing on Roman, the reaction is fucking massive cheers. I
said it after the Rumble, and I'll say it again. Ambrose is the fucking guy. Why, WHY ignore that fact?
[Edited on 2-22-2016 by TonyTH]
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CCharger
The Rowdy One 
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Inevitability is boring.
When it Reigns, it bores.
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salmonjunkie
Best There Is Was or Ever Will Be 
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quote:
Originally posted by S Kid J E T S 48
quote:
Originally posted by CM Crunk
Man, I forgot how much I missed Ricardo. Question about LU, though: What was the drastic difference in ADR's character there as opposed to here
in WWE? I suppose that question kind of answers itself, what with how over-scripted and micromanaged things are in WWE, but maybe somebody could shed
some light for me...
I'm not sure what about ADR is over scripted or micromanaged in the first place. He had a strong gimmick without much story. It's his lack
of meaningful storylines past the rich person gimmick that have been his problem.
Lucha Underground is entirely storyline-based, and heading even more towards that than the wrestling-end, so maybe it wouldn't exactly help if
that's your concern.
ADR's character in Lucha Underground was basically a grizzled mat technician that had mad respect from the fans. No rich person gimmick, just a
top-notch wrestler that came in from the crowd and embraced them. His ring work was great and his feud with Johnny Mundo/John Morrison was excellent.
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Count Zero
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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Originally posted by S Kid J E T S 48
In case everyone unsubscribed to the WWE Network immediately after the PPV tonight, Edge and Christian show was somewhere between so-so and decent for
a first outing.
Yeah, that interview thing with John Cena was kinda funny.... No, wait, it wasn't. Sorry, I'm getting it mixed up
with when Chris Farley did the same bit on SNL in the 90s. 
I was hoping for it to reek of awesomeness, but it just kinda reeked of "Hey, let's do stuff we thought was funny when other people did it."
(MST3K, Overdubbing Bad Scenes, Using Fake Shakespearian Accents, etc)
I kinda felt bad for Shockmaster, but also not-bad, if he's at least able to laugh at the whole thing.. Regardless, I was hoping for the show to
be more than it ended up being.
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TonyTH
Showstopper
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Welp, #CancelWWENetwork is going on again on Twitter. We've learned a lot last year.
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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That New Day/E&C; interaction shows the superiority of allowing performers to do their own promos without word-by-word scripting. E&C;, like when Rock
was on RAW a couple of weeks ago, showed that they do better because they came from an era where they had to think on their feet when doing promos and
had to figure out on their own on how to emphasize what works to pop the crowd. Rock basically dismantled New Day because all they have to fall back
on when their words fail is capering, boisterousness, and making stupid faces. Ditto with E&C;, because these guys just got too damn good at it in
their time for most of the younger guys following the scripts to be able to keep up with them.
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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CM Crunk
Man of a Thousand Holds
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quote:
Originally posted by S Kid J E T S 48
Reigns got hit with a couple of chair shots and then hit the spear and won tonight.
Yeah, speaking of which I haven't seen such an authentic sell-job since Billy Mayes was alive and inhaling cocaine like he was Unicron.
quote:
Originally posted by S Kid J E T S 48
In case everyone unsubscribed to the WWE Network immediately after the PPV tonight, Edge and Christian show was somewhere between so-so and decent for
a first outing.
Was less in the mood for bottom of the barrel chuckles, and more in the mood for grisly zombie death so I switched over to AMC.
quote:
Originally posted by the goon
I dunno, even if the WrestleMania crowd doesn't shit on Triple H/Reigns, I could see it being like Triple H/Orton from WrestleMania 25;
basically an apathetic reaction. I just feel like there's going to be enough smarks in the crowd who aren't going to rally behind a
retired 46 year-old just because he's not Roman Reigns.
quote:
Originally posted by CCharger
Inevitability is boring.
...Yeah, but...
(yes, I'm going to ride this until it becomes a thing.)
Jury's still out as we won't have a good idea for what's happening at 'Mania until after Raw tomorrow night, but worst case
scenario and it's just Roman vs. Triple H... Well, I still stand by my belief that the crowd will be firmly behind Triple H unless they
somehow manage to COMPLETELY shit the bed between now and April. Which, I will admit, isn't outside of the realm of possibility.
I'd be perfectly happy with a Dean/Brock match but the fact that it'd come as a consolation for another fucking Roman Reigns main event
takes the shine off that apple more than a bit.
But, like a good battered spouse I'm just gonna shut up and get back into the kitchen until after Raw tomorrow. All the while holding out hope
that either the main event of Wrestlemania somehow gets turned into a fatal 4 way, or that those Tai-Bo dvds pay off once I finally decide to go all
"Enough" Jennifer Lopez-style on Vince.
[Edited on 2/22/2016 by CM Crunk]
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royberto
And I am AWESOME
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quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore
quote:
Originally posted by the goon
And I'm kind of fascinated by Reigns/Triple H, just because I don't see any way this doesn't get shit on by 100,000 people in a
month (though I guess they have time to turn it around).
They'll cheer HHH and boo Roman, just like they did tonight. Only it'll be way, way louder at Mania.
I mean, you have a guy fans are dying to cheer, and another guy who people are, at best, kinda sorta mild about. I'll never understand why
they'll go with the latter over and over again.
They aren't going to cheer HHH. They didn't cheer HHH at all tonight. HHH is
the one guy who the fans have no problem booing regardless of who he faces.
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royberto
And I am AWESOME
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quote:
Originally posted by TonyTH
Welp, #CancelWWENetwork is going on again on Twitter. We've learned a lot last year.
Yeah, we learned it was a total failure when the
smarks tried it last year, and it will fail again this year.
quote:
Originally posted by S Kid J E T S 48
That match was far better than it had any right to be...awkward ending takes a point or two away though.
Charlotte completely no selling the
submissions moves runied the end of it. Quite amazing that the diva who got no actual in ring training did a far better job of selling injuries than
the one who is getting pushed because of who her daddy is.
[Edited on 2-22-2016 by royberto]
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royberto
And I am AWESOME
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quote:
Originally posted by TonyTH
Maaan, that result is just such a bummer. And you can see the crowd fucking go from disappointment to apathy really quickly there. People have been
"meh" to mild on Reigns, but this was a last little bit of hope. And then it sets in after the pin. Reigns vs HHH is the Main Evnt at Wrestlemania.
I really hope the rest of the card is good.
Edit: Also when Ambrose is hitting Lesnar with the chair, crowd cheers. When he starts wailing on Roman, the reaction is fucking massive cheers. I
said it after the Rumble, and I'll say it again. Ambrose is the fucking guy. Why, WHY ignore that fact?
[Edited on 2-22-2016 by TonyTH]
Because the onnly cheered Ambrose because he was hitting Reigns. Ambrose is meh otherwise.
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TonyTH
Showstopper
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I really dig Ambrose. And I feel like he was getting much bigger pops comparative to Reigns. I can't imagine Reigns sells more merch or anything
either.
And yes, #CancelWWENetwork didn't amount to much. Just expressing distaste from fans. I'm not going to sit here and tell you I'm not
watching RAW tomorrow or I'm not going to watch Wrestlemania. But maaan, I'm just so over this Reigns thing already.
Beyond that, I honestly did cancel my network subscription. Semi out of spit, but there's no big event next month, so it's not like I need
it. If I was satisfied with the show I would probably have stayed subscribed. So I can, at least, deprive them of one 9.99 and feel kinda good about
it.
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royberto
And I am AWESOME
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#cacnelWWENetwork didn't amount to anything last year. Not only did the sub loss never happen, but subs actually went up.
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OORick
Intellectual Savior of the Masses 
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Wasn't a huge fan of the PPV tonight, and the direction it seemed to point us for WM32 (see main page for more)..... liked the matches
themselves, but the direction was lacking....
But dont' go cancelling the Network because of this. Cuz after the Fastlane, the E&C; Show debuted, and was really good.
The bit with the "intern" flopped a bit, but the rest was just an awesome blend of Bill & Ted silly with Beavis & Butthead commentary, and I feel
good about the prospects.
Seriously.... "E/C Dubs" is just a great idea for a bit (E&C; over-dub a past moment, B&BH; or MST2K style), but that NAME for the segment is
bordering on genius. We must support all things E and C, dammit....
Rick
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Count Zero
Man of a Thousand Holds
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quote:
Originally posted by CM Crunk
-I've seen the Mass Transit Incident. Hayabusa break his neck. Sid break his leg. But few things make me cringe more as a wrestling fan than
Brie Bella's theme song.
The only "good" part (and by that, I mean it makes me laugh) of it is the start. BRIEEEE MOOOOOOOOWED. Or
waxed, or whatever.
Does anybody =else= find themselves with Sasha Banks' song stuck on replay in their mental iPod? I had a dream that, she hadn't made it.
I don't even know the rest of the lyrics, but damn that is a catchy Diva tune.
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royberto
And I am AWESOME
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quote:
Originally posted by OORick
Wasn't a huge fan of the PPV tonight, and the direction it seemed to point us for WM32 (see main page for more)..... liked the matches
themselves, but the direction was lacking....
But dont' go cancelling the Network because of this. Cuz after the Fastlane, the E&C; Show debuted, and was really good.
The bit with the "intern" flopped a bit, but the rest was just an awesome blend of Bill & Ted silly with Beavis & Butthead commentary, and I feel
good about the prospects.
Seriously.... "E/C Dubs" is just a great idea for a bit (E&C; over-dub a past moment, B&BH; or MST2K style), but that NAME for the segment is
bordering on genius. We must support all things E and C, dammit....
Rick
You forgot to mention the biggest shocker of the show(pun intended) Fred "The Shockmaster" Ottman returns!
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The Grindfather
And I am AWESOME
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Can we create an award for the MVP of triple threat matches & name it after Brock Lesnar? He's gotta be the G.O.A.T in that style of match.
Despite the anvil ending, I really enjoyed the main event. Reigns & Ambrose alternating between teammates and opponents was cool, 2 Shield style
powebombs, suplex city; awesome stuff.
I'll also say this, I think Roman has really come a long way in the ring & is a, dial back a little on the superman punches & spears, from being
pretty damn good.
It's just the booking of the poor guy...my God. I want to like him but I just can't. The only flaw of the main event was that it was a
greatest hits of the things we hate about Roman. Takes a beating for a majority of the match, including finishers & chair shots, then
Super-Cena's the most popular guy in the company clean with a single finisher. Lesnar looked like a dominant badass & Ambrose took a real
beating & kept coming; so did Reigns but that's kinda Ambrose's corner & has been his story coming into tonight. So where's that
leave Roman? What reasons are we given to cheer him? Creative is doing this guy no favors & it really speaks to an unbelievable level of
tone-deafness.
quote:
Originally posted by the goon
I dunno, even if the WrestleMania crowd doesn't shit on Triple H/Reigns, I could see it being like Triple H/Orton from WrestleMania 25;
basically an apathetic reaction. I just feel like there's going to be enough smarks in the crowd who aren't going to rally behind a
retired 46 year-old just because he's not Roman Reigns.
I'm also firmly in the HHH will NOT get cheered at Wrestlemania camp. Would any of us cheer HHH? I wouldn't, & nobody did tonight either.
That was the flattest Wrestlemania stare-down I've ever seen. HHH v. Orton at Wrestlemania 25 is the ceiling for this match & basement may be
below Goldberg v. Lesnar.
Somebody gonna get their ass kicked, somebody gonna get their wig split
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Flash
The Rowdy One
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The WWE think on this main event is just bizarre... I mean why would you actively court a main event that even stands a chance of making you look like
your paying fans hate what you are doing on your biggest night of the year? Why say "this is our guy" when it's met with a resounding
rejection?
I mean I'm sure they keep thinking to themselves that they can book a match that's so good that people will cheer it, fall in love with
Reigns, and the money can keep rolling in.... but why work that hard for it when easier, and what appears to be better ways keep presenting
themselves? I get why a Cena heel turn is not worth the risk given the millions he generates, but in Reigns we aren't even talking about a guy
who's worth that to the WWE yet because they keep trying to build him into something he just isn't yet.
It's like they keep trying to build Luger when the lightning in a bottle Austin's keep dropping into their lap only to be tossed aside.
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Wickedfrost
I LOVE RVD 
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Meh on Fastlane.
E/C completely sucked. It might have been interesting in the 90s in the middle of the mom's basement sketch show heyday but that was just
terrible.
Stay wet my friends.
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CCharger
The Rowdy One
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quote:
Originally posted by Flash
The WWE think on this main event is just bizarre... I mean why would you actively court a main event that even stands a chance of making you look like
your paying fans hate what you are doing on your biggest night of the year? Why say "this is our guy" when it's met with a resounding
rejection?
I mean I'm sure they keep thinking to themselves that they can book a match that's so good that people will cheer it, fall in love with
Reigns, and the money can keep rolling in.... but why work that hard for it when easier, and what appears to be better ways keep presenting
themselves? I get why a Cena heel turn is not worth the risk given the millions he generates, but in Reigns we aren't even talking about a guy
who's worth that to the WWE yet because they keep trying to build him into something he just isn't yet.
It's like they keep trying to build Luger when the lightning in a bottle Austin's keep dropping into their lap only to be tossed aside.
They are going to have to stunt book the HELL out of that match to make it interesting. Steel cage. Austin as the enforcer/special referee, Rock in
Reigns' corner, Shawn Michaels in Hunter's corner, etc.
When it Reigns, it bores.
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nOOb
The Man 
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I saw the writing on the wall after the Wyatt match and just stopped watching. I can't anymore, I'll just revisit after Mania and see if
maybe they might try something else. Because Reigns/Triple H will stay Reigns/Triple H. There's no cash-in available to bail them out this
year (likely by design). Unless Seth Rollins suddenly channels John Cena in his recovery, the best you can hope for is a triple threat that
inexplicably adds Cena. Ambrose will get his IC title rematch, AJ will be thrown into the smark-pleasing ladder match...they might actually be the
same match, and it will likely be Charlotte/Sasha/Becky in one of the best Divas matches in forever. But those will never be the focus, because those
aren't Vince's guys. His guys are his Attitude Era holdovers, Ryback (because he happened to watch Under Siege while having a muscular
guy with some charisma available to use), and Roman Reigns (because Rocky).
This might get better once Triple H is fully in charge but I kinda doubt he ever will be. Best bet is to see if Lucha Underground can grow on me and
pray Hogan, Bischoff, and Russo never hear of El Rey.
"The Seahawks are cool. Me and Tubby here hung out with them once at a Bruno Mars concert."-Jay and Silent Bob representing the Broncos on FOX NFL
Sunday.
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