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posted on 4-21-2016 at 05:32 AM
Chyna Dead at 45
Not a whole lot of info the go on right now, but Twitter
is in the midst of exploding right now. I know she's had her troubles, and always hoped that she'd pull herself together. Can't help
but to feel very sorry for her. Hopefully she's found the peace she was so sorely missing in life.
EDIT: Further confirmation, for those of you thinking this might be some sort of hoax or bizarre cry for help on Twitter, coming
from TMZ:
quote:WWE legend Chyna -- real name Joanie Laurer -- has died ... and officials are investigating as a possible overdose, TMZ Sports has learned.
TMZ Sports has learned she was in a home in Redondo Beach, CA ... south of L.A. -- and police got the call around 7:30 PM. Officers are on scene
right now. We're told they are investigating as a possible overdose ... due mainly to her history with drugs.
Chyna was 45-years-old.
A statement was posted to Chyna's official Twitter account confirming the death ... saying, "It is with deep sadness to inform you today that
we lost a true icon, a real life superhero."
"She will live forever in the memories of her millions of fans and all of us that loved her."
Laurer was discovered Wednesday evening according to ProWrestlingSheet.com. Chyna was a game changer during her stint with the WWE -- famously teaming
up with Triple H to become one of the original members of D-Generation X. She was also the first woman to enter the Royal Rumble.
Chyna went on to pose for Playboy before transitioning to reality TV. She appeared on "The Surreal Life" in 2005.
Later, Chyna got into porn ... releasing 6 films from 2004 to 2013. She later went to Japan to teach English.
Chyna struggled with addiction for years -- and appeared on "Celebrity Rehab" back in 2008. She posted a video to her YouTube page earlier this week
-- she looked like she was struggling.
[Edited on 4/21/2016 by CM Crunk]
[Edited on 4/21/2016 by CM Crunk]
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 06:21 AM
All because matte refused to include this former IC champion in the greatest wrestler tournament a few years back. This is on you. That
Chyna-Sunny porn that no one wanted to see that will now never get made? Your fault.
edit: Probably too soon
[Edited on 4-21-2016 by williamssl]
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 06:24 AM
RIP to a memorable and significant figure. It's sad but honestly I doubt most of us are surprised by this, not with the wildly self-destructive
behaviour that was on display over the last ten to twelve years. The drunk/stoned late night Twitter rants, the porn films, the endless crazy grudge
against Hunter and Steph, and all that other crazy shit she did can't be ignored. Maybe it was a personality disorder or an addiction that could
never be controlled, but there's no way anyone can say that this didn't have a high probability of finally happening.
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 06:34 AM
quote:Originally posted by Paddlefoot
RIP to a memorable and significant figure. It's sad but honestly I doubt most of us are surprised by this, not with the wildly self-destructive
behaviour that was on display over the last ten to twelve years. The drunk/stoned late night Twitter rants, the porn films, the endless crazy grudge
against Hunter and Steph, and all that other crazy shit she did can't be ignored. Maybe it was a personality disorder or an addiction that could
never be controlled, but there's no way anyone can say that this didn't have a high probability of finally happening.
Oh, no doubt this is probably the least surprising news we'll receive in the wrestling world this week, sad as that may be. I always felt a
tinge of sadness for Chyna, even back before she went off the deep-end.
I seem to remember reading years back during her heyday that she had a very difficult upbringing, can't remember if there was any abuse in her
household or around it, but she always had issues with her looks and her body which led to her finding her passion in weightlifting. Which of course
led her on the path to getting noticed by Hunter and Shawn.
By all accounts she was a very sweet and kind person who just got dealt some bad hands in life and just was never equipped emotionally to be able to
deal with such things. I'm interested to see what Mick Foley will inevitably write in regards to her as I believe they still kept in contact
regularly. I'm even more curious to see how WWE chooses to acknowledge her passing, regardless of her unfortunate final years you can't
really ignore someone who had such a big impact during your most successful boom...or can you?
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 07:02 AM
quote:Originally posted by williamssl
All because matte refused to include this former IC champion in the greatest wrestler tournament a few years back. This is on you. That
Chyna-Sunny porn that no one wanted to see that will now never get made? Your fault.
edit: Probably too soon
[Edited on 4-21-2016 by williamssl]
Never thought I'd see the day where you questioned if something you joked about was "too soon".
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 07:07 AM
(Reposted from Rumor Crap, because I am a moron.)
She fell pretty far pretty fast after wrestling, but she was an undeniable breaker of boundaries and a compelling performer in her own right.
Hopefully she's weirding Ultimate Warrior the fuck on out in Wrestler Heaven.
Farewell, Joanie. First female IC champ. That's a huge fucking deal.
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 07:31 AM
Hopefully she & Eddie are running the Latino Heat/Mamacita gimmick in front of the big Wrestlemania crowd in the sky.
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 07:37 AM
That was a fun storyline. Despite Eddie's charmingly rapey music.
"I slam 'em on the mat and then I unh unh..." Are you slamming ladies on the mat and then unh-uhning them? Or are you doing this to your male
opponents? Or, after slamming your opponents, did you sneak out of the ring for some uhn uhn? Which is perfectly acceptable. These are things I legit
pondered back in the day.
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 08:01 AM
I just heard the tragic news that @ChynaJoanLaurer has passed. She was truly a pioneer in our industry, and she will be missed. #RIPChyna
— Stephanie McMahon (@StephMcMahon) April 21, 2016
Joanie, I'm so sorry. I will always treasure our friendship and
will never forget your kindness to my children. RIP https://t.co/pVV0KjbkFt
— Mick Foley
(@RealMickFoley) April 21, 2016
Shit. Really? Chyna?
— Rob Van Dam (@TherealRVD) April 21, 2016
Chyna has died at the age of 45: Our hearts are with the entire WWE
family. https://t.co/iMfCFVluB9 #RIPChyna pic.twitter.com/WaYm7Bcirj
— Total Divas (@TotalDivas) April 21, 2016
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 08:10 AM
quote:Originally posted by williamssl
That Chyna-Sunny porn that no one wanted to see that will now never get made?
Not cool, dude. This comment belonged in the Dream Matches thread.
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 08:49 AM
Sad to say that it isn't surprising in the least. But still... damn. When you look at her life the past 15 years, it's easy to forget
what a revolutionary she really was.
First (and only) female IC Champion, an integral part of DX... even Hunter Hearst Helmsley might not have ever become Triple H without her.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 09:33 AM
I think WWE needs to start (if they don't already) having some mandatory counseling and more stringent drug testing and education. Wrestlers
are just dying at such a alarming rate. Im not sure what they need to do...but clearly something is broken ...... Its becoming very depressing to
continue to read these stories.
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 12:03 PM
Wow, this has even managed to hit the front page of ESPN:
Even though I am not totally surprised, I am sill just in kind of shock.
[Edited on 4-21-2016 by royberto]
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 12:08 PM
quote:Originally posted by Nobledictator1278
I think WWE needs to start (if they don't already) having some mandatory counseling and more stringent drug testing and education. Wrestlers
are just dying at such a alarming rate. Im not sure what they need to do...but clearly something is broken ...... Its becoming very depressing to
continue to read these stories.
They do, and unfortunately it's why a lot of the ones dying young are years removed from WWE employment. But they're also doing things to
help, and thankfully DDP is also out there to supplement and/or improve on the treatment they're offered.
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Sunday.
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 01:47 PM
Someone who wasn't afraid to blaze her own trail & create a
path for those who would follow. A pioneer whose star shined bright. #RIPChyna
— Triple H (@TripleH) April 21, 2016
Just woke up to the news of @ChynaJoanLaurer passing. So sad to hear, she was an amazing lady & I will miss her
greatly!!
— Shawn Michaels (@ShawnMichaels) April 21,
2016
So tragic. My heart is heavy today reflecting on this amazing woman.
#RIPChyna pic.twitter.com/atJK0XJwlS
—
Amy Dumas (@AmyDumas) April 21, 2016
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 01:54 PM
As I peruse twitter, what really gets to me is all the female wrestlers from both TNA and WWE who are tweeting about what Chyna meant to them. That is
where Chyna's impact on wrestling is clearly felt. All the young ladies who are in WWE and TNA now were impressionable young kids when Chyna
came on to their TV screens in the late 90's. Most certainly was an empowering figure to them.
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 02:20 PM
Long time lurker. Warning:
I know wrestlers (and other performers) have a history of dying early, and I know that I'm now of the age that the frequency of folks you know,
are fans of, or are otherwise invested in increase, but, well..
I remember when Robin Williams died. I could not figure out why it hit my so hard. I've been sad at celebrites passing, but this felt personal.
It took a lot of to figure it out, but it wasn't just that he had died, but that he was a creative, introverted, person that I had
personally invested in and connected to with out having ever met. I'll never be as tenth as funny as he is, but I saw a kinship in how he looked
at the world, how he was with his friends, and in those moments in interviews when he stopped performing for a moment and I think you saw a bit of
him. And for someone in whom I saw a bit of myself, to see him go that way, both saddened and scared me a bit.
With Chyna, I think I feel the same way. Someone who never would feel like she fit in, just looking for acceptance, seemed to always be looking for
and hoping for the best, just wanting to connect. All of those vlogs where she talks to the camera like a friend and she just seems to want to be
understood, to be liked, like anyone would, and to find her place, her outlet to perform and find a place for herself. I think I was rooting harder
for Joanie than I had ever rooted for Chyna, and she was my favorite back then. And to see her go, like this, still strikes home. Just how hard is it
to keep moving along, to keep trying really?
I have read oodles here and elsewhere about her problems, her careers, and seen how folks like Vince Russo sure looked like they used her to futher
their beefs, and I won't even say she handled it all perfectly. I don't think anyone has. And frankly I don't care. For now, I hope
that WWE and everyone else celebrates her life. That WWE puts her in the HOF. And later on, when it doesn't hurt quite so acutely, tell her
story, good and bad, and hope that everyone, from those involved to fans like me who never even saw her in person, can learn something from it.
How can you miss someone you've never met?
(And I have to admit being a little pissed that all those people that would not give her the time of day when she was alive, when she looked so much
like she needed a chance to talk to them, never found a way to do so now "miss her" publicly on Twitter. Way too little way too late.)
Thanks for a private place to ramble..
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 02:31 PM
Fox is reporting she was working on a documentary "rebuilding Chyna". Sounds like it is more done than not. I hope it sees the light of day. She
deserves it.
They are called "letters" when put together they make "words". Words make moving photos unnecessary.
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 02:40 PM
Her life has been a trainwreck for the past few years, but that doesn't make it any less tragic.
Take note, Sunny, this will be in your future if you don't get help immediately.
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 02:50 PM
And now for the fight:
Been avoiding the comments from the casuals, celeb-fans, and sk8rbois at other places, even Deadspin, on purpose. Right off the bat last night
when the news broke it was full of shitheads going on in anger about what WWE "did to her", with most of the venom reserved for StepHHH. What was it
exactly that WWE did to Chyna anyway? Made her a star? Paid her well? Paid for the plastic surgery? The huge crime of HHH breaking up with her that
absolutely ruined her entire life for which she had zero responsibility of properly living on her own afterwards? For not giving her an HOF induction
during one of her frequent meltdown periods because she couldn't be trusted to not go insane on the mike?
Yeah, it's a fucked up business but Chyna didn't get treated any worse than a hell of a lot of others and was arguably treated better than
the vast majority of others. So her boyfriend breaking up with her is a crime that he's forever guilty of and it's all his, and his
wife's fault, that his mess of a girlfriend from ages ago never got her act together and is now dead? Alrighty then, fuckfaces, I guess that
means if Lita (who took a hell of a lot of horrible shit off of the exact same kind of idiot fans that spent the last twelve years making excuses for
Chyna) had shot herself or something it would have been all the fault of Edge and Matt Hardy.
Rant over. I get pissed off big time worse at the excuse makers than I do at messed up people who blame someone else for their problems. I guess now
WWE can safely put her into the HOF because it's the first time since she left the company that they wouldn't have to worry about her
showing up loaded to the ceremony and unleashing a profanity-laced blame-rant at the podium, which they never had fear of her doing despite her
history of going insane on Twitter during a late night drug & booze binge. Sorry for the venting, and disrespect and being a company boy and all that,
but things like this dumb-fuck adulation of incredibly flawed people that come out of fan-culture bother the hell out of me.
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
Toano
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 03:46 PM
quote:Originally posted by Paddlefoot
And now for the fight:
Been avoiding the comments from the casuals, celeb-fans, and sk8rbois at other places, even Deadspin, on purpose. Right off the bat last night
when the news broke it was full of shitheads going on in anger about what WWE "did to her", with most of the venom reserved for StepHHH. What was it
exactly that WWE did to Chyna anyway? Made her a star? Paid her well? Paid for the plastic surgery? The huge crime of HHH breaking up with her that
absolutely ruined her entire life for which she had zero responsibility of properly living on her own afterwards? For not giving her an HOF induction
during one of her frequent meltdown periods because she couldn't be trusted to not go insane on the mike?
... this dumb-fuck adulation of incredibly flawed people that come out of fan-culture bother the hell out of me.
I hope I didn't bring this out. And I certainly don't want to fight. While I do think think that both sides handled it poorly ( Vince &
Family then, all of them at some point after) and that they don't just get to be the good guys now, I hope that my rather long ramble
didn't come off as fan adulatation.
I deal with clinical depression, among other things, and so I think if anything I sympathize with her struggle. She had a rough road, she did get
treated very poorly a number of times (looking at you, XPAC) and kept trying.
The things that I'm upset with the "company" about, where that they fired a performer I enjoyed, with incredible upside to continue, for no
business reason. It wasn't what was best for business. Nothing anyone can do to change that, but doesnt' make it right in my book.
The other thing upsets me, isn't that WWE wouldn't let her come back to perform, or put her in the Hall of Fame. IT was the fact that a
lot of folks seemed to know that she needed help, but she was essentially shunned from any contact with WWE folk, which she even stated caused her
pain in parts of her life that seemed to hurt her the most.
Look, no one owes anyone else anything by default. But it seems Mick Foley at least knew the time of day and tried. The view from here makes it look
like that was a rare occurance. But to see folks directly involved in creating and maintaing that distance, that apparently did nothing to help (which
again, is not a sin ) then send condolences acting like none of that ever happened. Thats a pretty big elephant to ignore.
And this is kind of an emotional thing. But honestly, like I mentioned with Robin Williams, that is all still aside issue to me. I think what hits
home the most is how folks capable of so much, that I ses a part of myself in, end their lives in this way. Its kinda scary.
Maybe lurking was a better idea...
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 03:46 PM
quote:Originally posted by Toano
(And I have to admit being a little pissed that all those people that would not give her the time of day when she was alive, when she looked so much
like she needed a chance to talk to them, never found a way to do so now "miss her" publicly on Twitter. Way too little way too late.)
Thanks for a private place to ramble..
It would not have mattered how many people stopped to talk to her. She refused to get help and even
admit she had a problem in the first place. The only way one gets truly better to to help themself. She didn't. If she had simply asked WWE for
help get sober, WWE would gladly have given it to her. Sunny(not that it helped over the long term) did and that is how she ended up getting inducted
into the HOF. Chyna never did that. You can't just say you are sorry and expect a company like WWE to let you back in. You have to prove it with
your actions to show you can be trusted. Chyna didn't do that either.
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 04:52 PM
Like I said in the original rant I wasn't dissing anyone here, or any genuine fans of Chyna and what she did in WWE. My anger is entirely
reserved for those dinguses out there, the casuals and the media vultures, that are using Chyna's entirely predictable death as an excuse to
slag WWE, Vince, and StepHHH. I'll beat up on WWE anytime for when they do something stupid. Joanie Laurer's death though? That's
not on them, not in the slightest. Any of the hacks out there who say that it is, in clear ignorance of how she was behaving and of what WWE has
committed to doing to help former performers in personal trouble, can go get stuffed.
The mentioning of Sunny is apt too in all of this. Sunny cleaned herself up for the HOF. Then afterwards she started behaving even worse after rehab
than she was before she went in, culminating in that gross-out porn vid for Vivid. Some of the personalities are just far too damaged to ever be
trusted, even when they get clean. In the light of the way Sunny was behaving I can't blame WWE if severing themselves altogether and
permanently from Chyna was what they chose to do. Was it this year or last year at the HOF or at Stamford where she was outside with the TMZ types
doing some kind of fucked up "lemme in! i wanna talk to steph and hunter!" stunt? Drunk or sober, after pulling crap like that why on earth would
(or should) the WWE ever be stupid enough to trust her?
[Edited on 4/21/2016 by Paddlefoot]
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 05:08 PM
quote:Originally posted by CVD39
quote:Originally posted by williamssl
All because matte refused to include this former IC champion in the greatest wrestler tournament a few years back. This is on you. That
Chyna-Sunny porn that no one wanted to see that will now never get made? Your fault.
edit: Probably too soon
[Edited on 4-21-2016 by williamssl]
Never thought I'd see the day where you questioned if something you joked about was "too soon".
3rd reply in thread or later would have been ok. 1st was definitely pushing it.
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posted on 4-21-2016 at 05:19 PM
Well, I mean... fuck those guys, Pad.
Fuck 'em with Donald Trump's tiny orange dick.
The vultures always come out after a celebrity dies. Any celebrity. They came out to peck at Robin Williams's corpse, and he was like
everyone's funny uncle.
Of course there are douchecanoes out there who want to make Chyna's death about StepHHH. They have power and she did not so clearly her descent
must be their evil plan, micromanaged down to the last pill she swallowed.
Here, IMO, is all the part Trips played in her fall: He left her for another, more conventionally attractive woman (at the time, anywho -- Steph has
since embraced her inner Amazon too). She couldn't be happy working for a business where her ex and his new girlfriend/wife were going to be her
boss, so she left. Without the structure and success of her career, things went the way they went.
Alternatively, we could believe her 2015 story of being sent home and told she "was not needed anymore" via fax. (Fax? Really, WWE? Couldn't
even be chickenshit over email?) Which certainly puts the blame for her departure on WWE, if perhaps not StepHHH specifically. It's not unlike
WWE to throw a money performer out the door over bullshit. Still, her personal descent wasn't WWE's fault. She could've landed on
her feet just fine if not for her terrible decision making.
Still, it's important not to necessarily blame people who turn to self-destruction out of personal anguish. Depression is a hell of an illness.
For a very slim silver lining, maybe Chyna will now get the Ultimate Warrior treatment and go from persona non grata to beloved Hall of Famer.
She's now only done a wee bit more porn than Hulk Hogan.
to figure it out, but it wasn't just that he had died, but that he was a creative, introverted, person that I had
personally invested in and connected to with out having ever met. I'll never be as tenth as funny as he is, but I saw a kinship in how he looked
at the world, how he was with his friends, and in those moments in interviews when he stopped performing for a moment and I think you saw a bit of
him. And for someone in whom I saw a bit of myself, to see him go that way, both saddened and scared me a bit. 
