RockyTopWrestling
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Where will Cena rank?
In the WWE history long title reigns were the measure of world champions until the Randy Savage and Ultimate Warrior championships. If a world
champion lost it was to someone that passed the title off quickly to the next long time champion.
Austin, Rock and Undertaker are modern "Gods" in pro wrestling; Hogan and Sammartino are untouchables in pro wrestling fans' minds but where
will John Cena land? In 10 or 20 years do you think Cena will demand the money or the pop that the others have? I am not saying reaction, I am saying
pop.
Reaction is what Angle gets or Reigns, can Cena turn his reaction into a pop like the legends listed above?
I rank the former "superstars" like this:
1. Rock
2. Hogan
3. Austin
4. Undertaker
5. Sammartino
Where do you place Cena or is it the same kind of pop?
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DKBroiler
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Cena will be an actual movie star within the next 5 years. In 10 years he will be pushed as the second biggest star in WWE history after President
Rock.
At no point will wrestling have anything to do with this.
Braun Strowman guy.
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First 9
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He'll be a Ric Flair/Undertaker-type legend that is highly respected for performing at a high level for so long. Kurt Angle said that what makes
Cena a contender for being the GOAT is how long he kept running with the ball.
The comparison with Rock/Austin/Hogan is underselling them. Just listen to the reactions those guys got in their prime. Rock was teaming with Mankind
against Taker and Big Show and the arena was thunderous with Rocky chants. Cena never really had that. Sure, under special circumstances like a
suprise return he'd get something close but tune in to a random RAW from 05 to today and you won't find him getting treated like
Rock,Hogan, and Austin in their prime.
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I think Cena will get the same kind of pop Edge gets when he returns every so often. More like "Hey, welcome back, cool to see you in the ring".
Not to the level of Untertaker, Austin, or Rock where it's almost surreal to see them back.
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nOOb
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If I had to rank them (which I don't, you're welcome, world), I'd go somewhere around
1) Rock (because he's not just the most successful wrestler financially speaking, but one of the, if not the, top grossing actors in the
world).
2) Hogan (because he was in a lot of places outside of wrestling in the 80's which hasn't been recreated with the exception of Rocky).
3) Bruno (because he was a huge deal in the 70's, sports wise)
4) Cena (because he's not anywhere near those first three, but as close as you could possibly get)
5) Austin (because he was really the reason the WWF got hot again in the 90's, but his mainstream crossover appeal is limited to
straight-to-DVD stuff)
Undertaker had a long career, but he kept it all in wrestling, but that he was able to evolve over three decades is no small feat. He'd be a
solid 6. And then you have guys like Savage, Warrior, Flair, and one or two others that you could argue fill out a Top 10 of all time in importance,
but I think you're Top 5 is set in stone for the next ten years or so, barring Roman Reigns suddenly catching on (if he ever did, which WWE
seems to have no intentions of doing, he has the look and an "it" that could help him have mainstream appeal).
"The Seahawks are cool. Me and Tubby here hung out with them once at a Bruno Mars concert."-Jay and Silent Bob representing the Broncos on FOX NFL
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Flash
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All those kids that the WWE pandered to for years under Cena's watch will probably mark out like crazy for him if/when he does that odd cameo in
5-10 years.... maybe not Hogan at WM 18 levels, but the size of the pop would probably be dependent on how long he stays away from the WWE at a
stretch.
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GodEatGod
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In terms of reaction, it will be hard for Cena to get that level for a return unless he takes an extremely long absence and I don't see that
happening for quite a while yet. At this point, he seems to be taking three to four month gaps, coming back for a program or two and then going away
again. But Hogan, Rock, etc. had all been away from WWE for years and years when they made their big returns.
Honestly, Cena strikes me as a guy who's always going to get more respect/adulation from his peers than he's ever going to get from fans.
He carried the business at a pretty thankless time and was mostly rewarded with "Cena sucks" and "You can't wrestle".
"It is an impressively arrogant move to conclude that just because you don't like something, it is empirically not good. I don't like
Chinese food, but I don't write articles trying to prove it doesn't exist." - Tina Fey
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the goon
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Kind of like has already been said, Cena has gotten too much of a mixed/negative reaction from the crowd over the years to be in the same league as
the Rocks and Austins of the world. And that's not to detract from his overall ranking and/or place in WWE history (personally, I'd
probably put him at number four behind the holy trifecta of Hogan, Austin, and Rock) but if we're going strictly by mega-crowd reaction, it just
ain't gonna happen for the guy. The crowd will forever be too split on Cena to see him get a reaction like Hogan got at WrestleMania X-8 or an
insane pop like Austin got when he came out to help Foley win the WWE title.
Though from a wrestling perspective, Cena's an interesting case to me. Because he'll never be confused for Shawn Michaels or Kurt Angle in
the ring, but he has accumulated a ridiculously long list of great and classic matches over the course of his career. Hell, I'd argue that there
are very few guys with a match resume as impressive as John Cena's at this point.
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punkerhardcore
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I think you're all bonkers. Cena would definitely get a super mega awesome pop if he were gone for really long time, and showed up again.
At this point in his career, the "Cena Sucks" stuff is like chanting "You Suck" at Kurt Angle. That's just how things are, and that
ain't gonna change no matter what. But those fans chanting that at him still have respect for the guy, because when he cuts a good ass promo,
or has an amazing match, those same people are cheering like hell for him. That's what makes him so, so good at what he does... when he's
on fire, he's REALLY on fire, and can get the audience eating out of the palm of his hand.
That's another reason the whole Reigns as the next Cena stuff has always been so absurd. Because that guy cannot do that at all.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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Count Zero
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Didn't we say about Cena most of the stuff punker just said we don't say about Booman? Er. I mean... Didn't we not say about Cena
almost all the same... Wait. Jesus.
... My head hurts just from trying to make that grammatically correct. My point is: Booman is on the "John Cena plan". But that's not
really relevant here, except to say "we" used to hate Cena pretty damn hard, and here we are respecting him, even if it's grudging
respect.
I don't know if Cena will ever get Rock-like levels of electricity, but we didn't even think he'd have the "respect" of the CENA
SUUUUUCKS world.
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GodEatGod
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quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore
I think you're all bonkers. Cena would definitely get a super mega awesome pop if he were gone for really long time, and showed up again.
I mean, I agree with that - my point is that he'll never be away long enough for us to find out.
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Chinese food, but I don't write articles trying to prove it doesn't exist." - Tina Fey
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janerd75
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quote:
Originally posted by DKBroiler
Cena will be an actual movie star within the next 5 years. In 10 years he will be pushed as the second biggest star in WWE history after President
Rock.
At no point will wrestling have anything to do with this.
I know we all got swept up in the primitive tribal rhythms of our Bitcherydoos in the long long ago regarding Cena's live-action relevance, but
yonder musings ^ from the Philly Delegation are on point. Because of the transitory nature of pop fandom, especially in the post-modern meme
hellscape gotta have it right fucking NOW Era, he will easily supplant Flair and Hogan on that mythical Wrasslin' Rushmore, second only to the
Rock. We, The Keepers of the  Flame, know somewhat otherwise  ing off in our respective No Fuck You I'M Right Basement
HQ's, but The Masses?
RIGHT NOW, Cena's essentially just getting started in the movie biz with Unit 731-themed fare
such as 'Trainwreck', akin to Rock's first foray into the the filmic arts with such gems as 'The Mummy Returns' and
'Tooth Fairy'. There's no reason to think he won't follow Rock's template into supermegastardom and further insinuate
himself into pop consciousness going forward. For "historians" such as ourselves, of course we witnessed the day to day grind of Cena's reign
live on RAW or taped on SD for over a decade with stellar results for a few, fair-to-middling for most, and ReBOOO-esque loathing for the rest.
As the ache sets into his bones from years of this wrasslin' nonsense and into his bone from years of pooning Tits McGee all day err day, the
siren song of him getting paid millions to watch stuntmen doing what he used to do for mere hundreds of thousands will call him away and he will
gradually drift off to movieland to only grace us with his presence once or twice a year, much like The Rock does now. And he will return to grand
applause in the much the same fashion. Prepare accordingly for the 'youts' of the past few years to tell the irradiated Mad Max feral
children of the near future how wrestling sucks now because guys like John Cena are retired. It's coming sooner than you think...right in your
face.
I suppose it all depends on how Cornette-y you wanna get. This shit's all transitory based on a near infinite combination and permutation of
variables for what works and what doesn't in the Wrasslin'/Sports Entertainment world, save for the one itty-bitty lil' tidbit that
drives the whole enterprise, which is putting asses in seats. Cena did, equivalent responses to Rock, Hogan, Austin notwithstanding.
quote:
Originally posted by punkerhardcore
I think you're all bonkers. Cena would definitely get a super mega awesome pop if he were gone for really long time, and showed up again.
At this point in his career, the "Cena Sucks" stuff is like chanting "You Suck" at Kurt Angle. That's just how things are, and that
ain't gonna change no matter what. But those fans chanting that at him still have respect for the guy, because when he cuts a good ass promo,
or has an amazing match, those same people are cheering like hell for him. That's what makes him so, so good at what he does... when he's
on fire, he's REALLY on fire, and can get the audience eating out of the palm of his hand.
I'll co-sign the shit out of this based on the aforementioned transitory nature of Pop Popularity I alluded to previously. So, in conclusion, in
the Pantheon of Greats does Cena actually belong up next to Ric, Rock, and Rattlesnake? Hmmmm, prolly technically not. But to the plebs that actually
buy the t-shirts and dampen their WWE branded Cena Hustle, Loyalty, Respect thongs rubbing up agaynst their hood piercing? Sure. Fuckin' way she
goes, boys.
Also, please use this moving picture to distract you from my premium grade wordturds...
...Bippity Boo and Skibbity Bop or whatever the fuck. - punkerhardcornette
BRAY WYATT'S SPOOKY DOOKY VARIETY HOUR - Illy P.
I expect a company that's basically a cluster of jock shitheads to act like a place that's run by a cluster of jock shitheads. - P. Foot,
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Paddlefoot
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Golly. Gosh too. 
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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janerd75
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quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
Golly. Gosh too.
I know, rite! And by the way, they're fake and they're spectacular.
...Bippity Boo and Skibbity Bop or whatever the fuck. - punkerhardcornette
BRAY WYATT'S SPOOKY DOOKY VARIETY HOUR - Illy P.
I expect a company that's basically a cluster of jock shitheads to act like a place that's run by a cluster of jock shitheads. - P. Foot,
Esq.
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Paddlefoot
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She took back the coveted Hey, Look At These! award from the dis-fuckin-qualified Eva Marie.
Sneaky AF tongue blep by HHH. Worth 13/10.
[Edited on 4/16/2017 by Paddlefoot]
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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CCharger
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Any list that excludes Ric Flair as among the greatest of all time is worthless.
"She was warned. She was given an explanation. Nevertheless, she persisted."
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First 9
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Janerd I respectfully disagree
Unlike with The Rock, WWE seems to be at peace with Cena slowly moving out and probably won't throw a bitch fit when Cena needs more than just a
few months to keep making movies. Which means he'll likely remain a lumbering presence appearing at least 2 to 3 times a year. He won't
stay away for 7 years and won't have that Hogan/Rock it's been so long factor.
And your theory of Pop Popularity is sound but unlike the Holy Trifecta of Hogan/Austin/Rock and the icons they replaced in popular culture, the prime
of these three is almost on tape and easy to watch. Everytime they talk about the greatest of all time, you'll get clips to these guys killing
it. Wrestlers from all ages will always mention watching them and of course there's ther place in history. The Hogan era is the revolutionary
era, Austing and Rock are the face of what will likley always be treated as the coolest time in wrestling but also when the company surged back as a
Phoenix to reclaim it's top spot. Cena is the face of an era.
He'll likely never stay away enough to become nostalgic and his place in history will be non-descriptive(as far comparing him with the other
three) so I don't see him ever climibing into that level of a monumental figure of wrestling has come back type program.
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janerd75
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quote:
Originally posted by First 9
Janerd I respectfully disagree
Unlike with The Rock, WWE seems to be at peace with Cena slowly moving out and probably won't throw a bitch fit when Cena needs more than just a
few months to keep making movies. Which means he'll likely remain a lumbering presence appearing at least 2 to 3 times a year. He won't
stay away for 7 years and won't have that Hogan/Rock it's been so long factor.
And your theory of Pop Popularity is sound but unlike the Holy Trifecta of Hogan/Austin/Rock and the icons they replaced in popular culture, the prime
of these three is almost on tape and easy to watch. Everytime they talk about the greatest of all time, you'll get clips to these guys killing
it. Wrestlers from all ages will always mention watching them and of course there's ther place in history. The Hogan era is the revolutionary
era, Austing and Rock are the face of what will likley always be treated as the coolest time in wrestling but also when the company surged back as a
Phoenix to reclaim it's top spot. Cena is the face of an era.
He'll likely never stay away enough to become nostalgic and his place in history will be non-descriptive(as far comparing him with the other
three) so I don't see him ever climibing into that level of a monumental figure of wrestling has come back type program.
I'm pretty much with you from a certain point of view. However, I don't think I made my point clear enough previously but now that the
influence of the Insanity Peppers of OO Knights have worn off let me clarify.
Ultimately I guess the question at hand is "Ranked According To Whom?" and that's point I was so inelegantly trying to make. From the
WWE's standpoint, he's one of their high ranking gods due to merch sales. To the casual rank-and-file fan, especially the younger
post-Hogan, Rock, Austin that mostly grew up with Cena, their admiration for him will only grow the more films he gets involved in that will in turn
swell the WELCOME BACK chants upon his eventual returns. To us, the fucking pedantic wrasslin' keepers of the flame, I think the general
consensus is that he's ultimately pretty darn good, but he was never really able to reach escape velocity from the pull of the Corporate Era in
which he was fully formed. Which sets him a touch lower on the mountain than the things the Greatest of the Greats in Hogan, Rock, and Austin
accomplished and transcended during their respective tenures.
I do think he's now more on the accelerated timeframe for doing more and more movies, but I agree that's he's not at the Rock level
yet of being gone for a year or so before popping up. He's probably getting more into the Jericho model where he's around for half to
three-quarters of the year before it's time to go film something again.
So, in short, I guess it depends on your wrasslin' POV as to where he fits on The List. As a Sports Entertainer with accompanying broad
spectrum household name knowledge as of RIGHT NOW in 2017? Put him in the top three with Rock and Hogan. As a straight up Pro Wrestler? Maybe Top Ten
mostly behind but still amongst guys like Ric, Shawn, Bret, Hogan, Rock, Austin, Macho, Taker, Kurt, Eddie, etc.
On another tangent, it'll be neat to see if retro-embiggening of careers will occur in the next couple of years as Rock, Batista, and eventually
Cena will likely all be involved in high-dollar tentpole films at the same time. Cena will get there eventually given his decent acting chops, any
film Rock touches is essentially guaranteed over $100mil for its box office run, and Dave's about to go even more stratospheric when GotG 2
comes out.
Then it will be interesting to see how people do rankings and career compare and contrasts because Cena's a bit too close on the scale to
discern him from Rock, Austin, Hogan, etc., while Batista, while decent, was nowhere near as accomplished.
...Bippity Boo and Skibbity Bop or whatever the fuck. - punkerhardcornette
BRAY WYATT'S SPOOKY DOOKY VARIETY HOUR - Illy P.
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Slade
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Janerd makes a good point in his last post. Some of how you rank and view guys is generational. I agree with his point about people who missed The
Rock as a wrestling and grew up on Cena admiring him all the more for branching off into film and becoming a huge box office success (if it works out
that way).
One should also consider the point of view of today's pre-teen and teenage wrestling fans as well. They are of a generation that only knows The
Rock as a movie star. And while they may see him pop up from time to time on WWE programming, they have no connection with him as a wrestler. However,
I can tell you, as a school teacher, that wrestling fans who are in middle school right now view John Cena as the coolest and best wrestler there is.
Bar none. I can remember turning on vanilla babyfaces around the time that I was in grade 8. Today's grade 8 kids who talk to me about wrestling
haven't turned on John Cena. He's still cool as fuck to them. Cena becoming more of a part-time performer is only going to help cement his
status with this demographic. Because he will spend less time in the ring as today's youth grow up and start appreciate heels more and cheering
for different kinds of faces, he should be able to avoid having them turn on him. They will continue to appreciate him and cheer for him whenever he
is back, and most of them will probably rank him higher than The Rock when all is said and done.
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DKBroiler
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I totally forgot about Batista. He is about to go into the fame stratosphere.
As Janerd spoke about in his Janerdy way, we're the super hardcore wrestling history keepers. Our ilk will remember how unbelievably great
Angle and HBK were. We'll understand why Jericho has a GOAT argument even if it's silly. We'll know how bad ass matches from Sabu
and Taz in like 1997 were in comparison to virtually everything from the last few Wrestlemanias. Still ... in the grand scheme of how wrestlers
historically rank in WWE wrestling has almost nothing to do with it. Even fame in wrestling, like Flair calling HBK the greatest, means almost
nothing as well.
What does matter though? Fame OUTSIDE of WWE for casuals.
I noticed that no one mentioned Lesnar. Well that guy is famous as fuck. From this generation he is either 1st or 2nd in fame with Cena and he
wrestles 4 minute matches 5 times a year.
Here is my list of the most famous wrestlers alive today.
1 The Rock and it's not close.
2 Hogan only because people over 30 who don't watch wrestling still know his name. He isn't making anyone any money any more though.
3 Cena - There are millions of 40 year old house wives who think he is just an awesome guy. Eventually he'll get a starring role in a summer
blockbuster and be number 2 to The Rock.
4 Lesnar - UFC Champ and the 2nd biggest PPV draw in the world behind Mayweather.
And that's about it. Bruno, HBK, SCSA, Taker, Flair etc won't even rate on the fame scale next to these people. Give it 6 months and
Batista will lap all of them too.
As for Reigns, sorry guys, but I'd bet a large sum of money that in 10 to15 years he is 3rd on the list. He will follow the same track and
eventually become an action movie star. It's only a matter of time before The Punisher reboot starring Roman Reigns makes a bazillion dollars
and he, along with Cena, get retconned into the biggest WWE star Mount Rushmore right behind President Rock.
Braun Strowman guy.
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CCharger
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Look, if you walk up to any random person at the street and ask them to name five pro wrestlers, they're going to almost immediately name:
Hulk Hogan
Andre the Giant
The Rock
Stone Cold Steve Austin
and after several moments of racking their brains will come up with one of the following:
John Cena
Ric Flair
Undertaker
Brock Lesnar
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"The powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned."
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salmonjunkie
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quote:
Originally posted by DKBroiler
I totally forgot about Batista. He is about to go into the fame stratosphere.
that no one mentioned Lesnar. Well that guy is famous as fuck. From this
Give it 6 months and Batista will lap all of them too.
One caveat - ONLY if Batista returns to wrestling (which I do think he eventually will). That pop will be HUGE.
I wouldn't put him on that list right now, and not until he is the lead star in a film. Right now, and even after Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.
2, I put Batista somewhere just below Rowdy Roddy Piper or Jesse Ventura. He lands a leading role, I'll put him higher up. But still not above
Cena.
[Edited on 4-25-2017 by salmonjunkie]
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DKBroiler
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quote:
Originally posted by salmonjunkie
quote:
Originally posted by DKBroiler
I totally forgot about Batista. He is about to go into the fame stratosphere.
that no one mentioned Lesnar. Well that guy is famous as fuck. From this
Give it 6 months and Batista will lap all of them too.
One caveat - ONLY if Batista returns to wrestling (which I do think he eventually will). That pop will be HUGE.
I wouldn't put him on that list right now, and not until he is the lead star in a film. Right now, and even after Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.
2, I put Batista somewhere just below Rowdy Roddy Piper or Jesse Ventura. He lands a leading role, I'll put him higher up. But still not above
Cena.
[Edited on 4-25-2017 by salmonjunkie]
I agree. Do you wanna know how to easily turn Bootista into a money printing uber fan favorite? Change nothing about his character aside from
beginning his theme song with Hooked on a Feeling. HOAF Batista could easily main event Wrestlemania as a face.
Braun Strowman guy.
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I would rank them as follows:
1. Rock - face of an era and only gotten bigger.
2. Hogan - face of the 80's and the cornerstone the WWE is built upon
3. Cena - latest face of wresting, took over from Rock and could potentially be a star like Rock
4. Bruno - the name of wrestling in the 70's, known nationwide even though wrestling was regional
5/6. Austin/Taker - Both great stars, Austin's peak I think was higher than Takers, but Taker's longevity is just amazing.
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Originally posted by CCharger
Any list that excludes Ric Flair as among the greatest of all time is worthless.
Ditto that comment. If Flair doesn't even make your top 5, you seriously need to check yourself.
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