OORick
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OOfficial Discussion Thread for: SmackDown/205 Double Header (May 2, 2017)
Tonight on SmackDown: get ready to drink in the Gift of Jericho one last time before a brief hiatus (where Chris Jericho rejoins Fozzy for
concert/festival season)... WWE is hyping a US Title rematch, with Jericho defending against Kevin Owens... though the outcome is widely expected to
"write out" Jericho for a bit, that doesn't mean the ride to inevitability won't be a fun one.... the two had a really fun and
well-constructed match on Sunday, and I expect them to continue to deliver more of that layered chemistry tonight....
That big main event will give us a one week reprieve before we are asked to take the WWE Title situation seriously again, as the top storyline for the
brand.... Randy Orton is the champ, but he is belt-less, since 3 Naan Band (nickname OOfficially ApprOOved!) attacked him and stole it last week....
unbelievably, Jinder Mahal really is the #1 Contender to said title, and will main event a PPV in just a few weeks... yes, THAT Jinder Mahal... FYI,
the Bollywood Boys officially have new identities, too; they are now Samir and Sunil Singh...
For me (and most of us), the real main event for Backlash is the presumptive US Title Match between Kevin Owens and AJ Styles.... of course, first we
have to settle the business with Jericho tonight, so we can't officially start getting psyched up yet, but they might have Styles do something
like sit in on guest commentary tonight, just to keep his #1 Contendership visible....
The WWE in-ring debut (as far as YOU know, because if it doesn't happen on TV, it doesn't count) of Shinsuke Nakamura is also being held
off until Backlash... look for more of Dolph Ziggler being a jerk with the talky talk, and Nakamura itching to let his fists and feet to the talking
for him...
We've also got the tag title match for the PPV all set, as Breezango were the surprise winners of a Tag Team Turmoil match, and have a shot at
the Usos in 3 weeks... I have been advocating for a soft reboot for the two, in order to bump them up as tag team title contenders, but that was when
American Alpha were champs.... I did not, at any time, envision a face turn coming with the reboot, but you gotta assume they'll be the fan
favorites against the Usos...
Women's division has no clear cut singles feud at the moment, as the Up-Shakened Superstars (tm) have MOSTLY rallied around Natalya Neidhart, to
take umbrage at Charlotte just coming in and acting like she owns the place... last week, Becky Lynch seemed to decide to part ways with the Welcoming
Committee, and so it appears as if she's putting her history with Charlotte behind her, to join forces with the Queen, and the Women's
Champ, Naomi, against Nattie, Carmellsworth, and Tamina... somehow, I figure Carmellsworth emerges as the #1 Contender against Naomi, but otherwise,
it seems like more of a 3--on-3 situation at present...
Other stuff that may or may not come together in time for the PPV: Baron Corbin's "suspension" was fun while it lasted, but all good things
must end.... with Orton/Mahal, Owens/Styles, and Shinsuke/Ziggler, the only 2 things that would really make sense are Sami Zayn or Luke Harper; one
could be halfway decent because of Zayn, and the other could be a solid HossFest, I guess.... Zack Ryder is back working house shows, so his return to
TV must be imminent as well... it makes all the sense in the world to get the Hype Bros back together, and there is insta-feud potential against the
Singh Bros (all Ryder has to do is make the big save when 3NB is triple teaming Orton and/or Mojo, and the rest writes itself)... the newly serious
Colons seem to be getting a significant push, and my guess is it's so that the New Day have somebody to feud with, right out of the gates, when
they return to TV in the very near future... what would be REALLY cool is if the Colons brought Carlito back, to make it a 3-on-3 affair! And yes, I
had that idea about a year ago, but it's still as ingenious and true as ever! [In the meantime, ummmmm, Epico and Primo probably win a mini-feud
against Alpha.]...
BONUS COVERAGE: "205 Live" is finally gonna give Neville/Aries/Perkins/Gallagher a night off, and let that whole multi-pronged sit out a
week.... WWE has 3 matches already announced, and it's time for some lesser-utilized guys to shine: Rich Swann vs. Noam Dar, Drew Gulak vs.
Mustafa Ali, and Lince Dorado vs. TJ Perkins...
That is all. End communication....
The flOOr is yours, OO Nation. Don't wait till after 11pm to post, either. Pre-show previewing and prognosticating is certainly welcome.
So discuss, debate, and rate!
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janerd75
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Red, white, and blue don't look good on you, Kev. I thought you were better than that. 
...Bippity Boo and Skibbity Bop or whatever the fuck. - punkerhardcornette
BRAY WYATT'S SPOOKY DOOKY VARIETY HOUR - Illy P.
I expect a company that's basically a cluster of jock shitheads to act like a place that's run by a cluster of jock shitheads. - P. Foot,
Esq.
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LoveMuscle
And I am AWESOME
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"Jinder, I found this in a bag in your locker room. So I took it out and left something else in your bag. Your clothes might stink for a while."
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Paddlefoot
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Vintage luggage defilement! 
Never noticed it before because the booking during his previous WWE stint was so ridiculous, but Jinder is not a bad wrestler. Big, fast, ox-strong,
can keep up with a mover like Sami, and just naturally looks mean as fuck. That was actually a fairly decent match.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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janerd75
The Great One
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I too also want to not like Jinder but, other than sloppycuffing future 205 Live Superstar Finn Baller, I can dig his jerkdickery.
However, I would like to see a variant of this happening with him in a program down the road. I guess they could use pies instead of guns. I guess.
...Bippity Boo and Skibbity Bop or whatever the fuck. - punkerhardcornette
BRAY WYATT'S SPOOKY DOOKY VARIETY HOUR - Illy P.
I expect a company that's basically a cluster of jock shitheads to act like a place that's run by a cluster of jock shitheads. - P. Foot,
Esq.
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Count Zero
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And Jinder is basically living the JBL (no, I don't mean it that way) Life. He was a lower-midcard guy, then got popular in a tag-team
environment, then suddenly morphed into a main eventer.
I know some people thought it was pushed on JBL too fast, and maybe that's a fair assessment. I think Jinder is in a better position, in a way,
because he's not a soap-rapist. The only knock we have on him is because of past jobber-presentation, and this is a realm where wins & losses
don't actually matter. So they can give a jobber a makeover, and voila! JINDERMANIA IS RUNNING WILD BAYBAY!
Aiden English needs a new gimmick, and I still don't 'get' what makes Ten Dilltenger a 'perfect 10'. His matches have
thus far lasted less than 10 moves.
eta: Heh. Jericho called Renee "Ronnie".
And we all know what happens when you cry on Y2J's new show. 
[Edited on 5-3-2017 by Count Zero]
"It's a WWE tradition, to do something un-right." --Paddlefoot
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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Jinder also has the benefit of learning from one of the best hateful heels of all time. His uncle in real life is Gama Singh, who was probably the
single most hated villain in the history of Stampede Wrestling here in Calgary. The matches with Gama were generally insane and he was a fucking
genius at milking the anti-east Indian racism of the time to provoke the crowd into a frothing rage. It was almost just like the time Freddie Blassie
described it when he got a crowd so angry they set his car on fire, that's how good Gama and his Karachi Vice faction was at pissing people off.
That he was damn tough and mean as hell too just added to how much fun Stampede could be back in the early 1980's.
EDIT - so Ellsworth's new gimmick is Chinless Kevin Federline? I'm OK with that. Can't ever fire JBL, not when he still sneaks in
the sort of comments like "evolution working it's way backwards" at Ellsworth.
[Edited on 5/3/2017 by Paddlefoot]
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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janerd75
The Great One
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Started at the bottom now they're.......?
And now that he has his own band I wonder if Jinder's ready to be a lead Singher.
ETA: I thought Bex turned, but she fooled me! Also, today is my first day watching wrasslin'!
[Edited on 5-3-2017 by janerd75]
...Bippity Boo and Skibbity Bop or whatever the fuck. - punkerhardcornette
BRAY WYATT'S SPOOKY DOOKY VARIETY HOUR - Illy P.
I expect a company that's basically a cluster of jock shitheads to act like a place that's run by a cluster of jock shitheads. - P. Foot,
Esq.
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Count Zero
The Rowdy One
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He can singh, but can he dance? We need to know that if he's going to be Bollywood Mahogan.
eta: I too was fooled by Bex. I thought she was going to BexPlex JB Ellsworth, and say "sorry, had to do it, we're still cool,
right?"
etadeux:
WHAT?!?!?! NOAM DAR AND ALICIA FAAAAAUUUUGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHKS BROKE UP??  I don't want to live in this world
anymore.
FASHION COPS?!?!?! Maybe I -do- still want to live in this world. There's still hope for society, if Breezango keep the good buddy-cop vibe
alive.
heh. "That's Jaywalking... and Jimmywalking too." 
[Edited on 5-3-2017 by Count Zero]
"It's a WWE tradition, to do something un-right." --Paddlefoot
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janerd75
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Just me or does Hiphopanonymous Lana seem like a disaster in the making?
...Bippity Boo and Skibbity Bop or whatever the fuck. - punkerhardcornette
BRAY WYATT'S SPOOKY DOOKY VARIETY HOUR - Illy P.
I expect a company that's basically a cluster of jock shitheads to act like a place that's run by a cluster of jock shitheads. - P. Foot,
Esq.
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G. Jonah Jameson
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I thought that Breezango vignette was highly amusing, but I wish WWE hadn't aired it at a moment when my wife was in the room, forcing me to
justify my enjoyment of it.
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janerd75
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quote:
Originally posted by G. Jonah Jameson
I thought that Breezango vignette was highly amusing, but I wish WWE hadn't aired it at a moment when my wife was in the room, forcing me to
justify my enjoyment of it.
If a grown man can't enjoy the antics of buff and oiled homoerotic fashion cops in the company of his own wife then perhaps you need to
reevaluate your relationship. I'm so sorry, but from here it doesn't look good for you guys.
...Bippity Boo and Skibbity Bop or whatever the fuck. - punkerhardcornette
BRAY WYATT'S SPOOKY DOOKY VARIETY HOUR - Illy P.
I expect a company that's basically a cluster of jock shitheads to act like a place that's run by a cluster of jock shitheads. - P. Foot,
Esq.
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Count Zero
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Just be glad she didn't see you enjoying Lanadango?
"It's a WWE tradition, to do something un-right." --Paddlefoot
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janerd75
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BOOOWENS! 
Bye, CJ.
...Bippity Boo and Skibbity Bop or whatever the fuck. - punkerhardcornette
BRAY WYATT'S SPOOKY DOOKY VARIETY HOUR - Illy P.
I expect a company that's basically a cluster of jock shitheads to act like a place that's run by a cluster of jock shitheads. - P. Foot,
Esq.
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Nobledictator1278
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I love heel beat downs ..but you would think that Sami Zayn or some face would run down there.... maybe Im just too old school.
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Paddlefoot
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quote:
Originally posted by janerd75
quote:
Originally posted by G. Jonah Jameson
I thought that Breezango vignette was highly amusing, but I wish WWE hadn't aired it at a moment when my wife was in the room, forcing me to
justify my enjoyment of it.
If a grown man can't enjoy the antics of buff and oiled homoerotic fashion cops in the company of his own wife then perhaps you need to
reevaluate your relationship. I'm so sorry, but from here it doesn't look good for you guys.
Took WWE twenty years to catch up to Marilyn Manson? 
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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OORick
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Hell of an exit for Jericho. It's not often when I flashback to the sleepover party I was attending when Jake Roberts traumatized me for life by
savagely DDT'ing Ricky Steamboat on the concrete floor.
But this was reminiscent. If you're taking a 10 week vacation, that's how you do it.
As far as no one running out for the save, I imagine that's why "AJ Styles is banned from ringside" was drilled into our brains. He's
the babyface with a horse in this race, and he's probably already back at the hotel. And Owens did a nice enough job of feigning that he was
backing down only to strike again, lightning quick, that I never really noticed the spot where "Hey, this is where somebody should come down and
start fighting Owens."
Maybe right at the end, the whole babyface lockerroom coming out and making a wall around Jericho would have been an effective and memorable visual,
while also creating closure? ("Well, Jericho's hurt bad, but at least Owens won't get in any more cheapshots.)
Good stuff with the women. Nicely conceived and laid out match (double Face In Peril, first with Naomi 1-on-2, then with Charlotte entering
pre-injured), with quality story development in the end. Two stories, actually: (1) the bit with Becky swerving the Committee sets her up versus
Nattie which should be quite excellent, while (2) Carmella pinned Naomi, which gives her the easy inside track on a title match.
And the Fashion Police were nothing less than brilliant. That's one damn fine homage to the Zucker style comedy of "Police Squad".... just so
ultra-dense with rapidfire dialoque and rich visual easter eggs (The Fashionplate Freddie Blassie was a delightful touch), that it doesn't
matter if every joke hits with every viewer, because the next joke is already here.
I trust that segment will make it to the youtubes, so I can enjoy a more careful examination of their bulletin board. And I trust another week or two
of those skits, and I don't have to worry about the fact that I didn't see Breezango as babyfaces. Cuz this is the exact right kind of
goofy hijinx to get them some goodwill from the fans.... for as much as I shit all over other times when WWE deviates from "realism," this kind of
carefully compartmentalized comedy can work wonders even if it may not have a long shelf life (see Damien Sandow).
Orton/Mahal is just a raging vortex of apathy and mediocrity.... but everything else about SD heading into Backlash is shaping up REALLY nicely.
Rick
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First 9
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That Breezango segment was of so much more higher quality than most WWE segments. The background touches were great(Primo and Epico wanted for Real
Estate Fraud was hilarious), the dialogue was witty and snappy, and both guys delivered their lines flawlessly.
If they can keep that level up for more backstage segments and Breezango can be just as fun with a live mic I hope they become SD's top tag team
over New Day and AA. Although I do question the decision to make them face with New Day's return on the horizon.
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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No-Style Nakamura. 
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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OORick
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Just watched "Talking Smack" before bed and..... ummmmm....
I have a giant smark boner for Shane vs. Owens at SummerSlam, now. Am I alone?
Rick
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CCharger
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Fuck every last one of you obtuse wankers.
Mahal getting a push is odd and out of nowhere, and that's why it delights me. Unlike every other WWE match and feud, I can't predict what
the outcome will be. It's like eating an orange after eating 17 bananas in a row.
I also want Breezango to win the tag titles by submission, Erick Rowan to suddenly appear and beat Miz for the IC belt. Oh, and please let one of the
Ascension to pin Roman Reigns clean for no reason.
Because I despise the sanitized, terribly booked, corporate WWE currently, I'm PRAYING that Mahal wins the WWE title. I want confusion and
anarchy and revolution.
I want utter chaos.
[Edited on 5-4-2017 by CCharger]
"She was warned. She was given an explanation. Nevertheless, she persisted."
"The powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned."
--- Stephen Miller, Trump senior White House advisor, Feb. 12, 2017
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janerd75
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And where oh where are CC Punk's WWE ice cream bars?!?!
...Bippity Boo and Skibbity Bop or whatever the fuck. - punkerhardcornette
BRAY WYATT'S SPOOKY DOOKY VARIETY HOUR - Illy P.
I expect a company that's basically a cluster of jock shitheads to act like a place that's run by a cluster of jock shitheads. - P. Foot,
Esq.
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denverpunk
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I agree that KO's postmatch beat down of Y2J was superb, but was anyone else underwhelmed by the match itself? Maybe I've been spoiled by
watching Michael Elgin and Kenny Omega in NJPW for the first time this weekend, but Y2J/KO was a whole lot of punchy/kicky, imo. And I'm saying
this as a fan of both of them.
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gobbledygooker
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I think I liked their Payback match the most out of the three. But yes, the other two did seem to lack...something, especially given how awesome each
of them are.
RE: Mahal -
I must say - I don't hate it. I think it definitely helps having his two mini-me's with him as it makes him look like a freakin'
giant. Very impressive visual. I'm not saying I want the guy headlining WrestleMania but he's fine for what it is.
"Hulk Hogan have the sex with some dumb bitch on the TV. The girl smart if she make the $$ from his bald ass but she also desperate to have sex with
the howdy doody like Hulk Hogan. He worse than Mel Gibson and I think now %10000 he prove he have grasshopper dick and raisin balls." - The Iron
Sheik
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Count Zero
The Rowdy One
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I've entirely bought in on JINDERMANIA for many of the same udderly well-expressed opinions above. I mean, it's nice to see Randy Orton
Vs Somebody Different, and with John Cena vanishings on the books for the foreseeable future, there -is- a main event slot (or three) they can fill
with 'promotions'. Even if Jinder is a temporary/disposable heel-main-eventer, I'm glad they're giving us something we
haven't seen much of -- that seems to be rarer and rarer these days.
Also, I'm on-board for ANY Erick Rollins title reign. I'd also support Universal Champion Luke Harper, and Tag Team Champions BREEZANGO
are potentially awesome if they keep those (Fashion) COPS-style segments coming.
[Edited on 5-3-2017 by Count Zero]
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