zombiecraig
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Is Jericho done?
Now that Nash is pretty much a lock to come back to the WWF, how long will it take for the whole organization to crumble? It's not in the best shape
right now, but Nash could be another nail in the coffin. What does this mean for guys like Jericho and the soon to be returning Chris Benoit?
Hopefully Vince has enough sense to veto some of the forthcoming stupidity that Nash will obviously be bringing with him.
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olfuzzybastard
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If you ask me, the fact that Scott Hall's not coming back with him already indicates that Vince is taking Nash with a grain of salt. If a WWF return
motivates him, I've got to problems with him myself. (Although I have serious doubts that he'll actually be motivated for very long.)
As far as Jericho goes, I even think there's an outside chance he'll keep the belt until Wrestlemania. I don't know exactly why, but I think it's
going to be Austin-Rocky-HHH-Jericho. Ever since Foley's speil, they seem to have given up on the constant hot-shotting of the belts. (In fact,
Jericho's the only new champion since then, right? Or since the Survivor Series anyway.)
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zombiecraig
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| posted on 1-3-2002 at 10:28 PM |
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Well, I do hope you're right about the Vince/Nash situation. And I would love to see Jericho get some time to build up his "heel" persona before
losing the belt. A "heel" hanging onto a belt for a long period of time can be a sure fire way to do that, if that "heel" handles things
correctly.
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Dr WR
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I don't think the WWF knows when Y2J will drop the belt yet, they're playing it by ear, depending on the reactions they get from him. If Jericho
runs with the ball the way Hunter did after he got his big chance, he could main event this WM yet...
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jabronieramone
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I think it would be ultra cool if Jericho can hold onto the belt for WM18.
As long as they make him annoying as all hell people will pay to see him get his ass kicked.
Personally I think a babyface HHH vs. Jericho would be an awesome main event. Jericho has the history with both HHH & Stephanie.
Probably they only trick wil be getting the fans to cheer Stephanie and hate Jericho for being a dick to her.
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Ripner
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Well at Royal Rumble something is going to happen prolly to bring about Vince and Ric splitting the WWF in two and prolly breaking apart the unified
title in the process so Jericho is going to have 1 of his titles taken away at that time.
My personal prediction is that it'll be Jericho vs RVD, Vince is going to interfere on Jericho's behalf to help Jericho win the match and the next
night Ric will strip Jericho of the World Title (former WCW title) and give it to RVD as he forms his own WWF. But who knows?
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Cuthbert
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| posted on 1-3-2002 at 11:19 PM |
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I don't think that Nash will have any affect on Jerico. To me, Nash is nothing but a desperate, unneeded experiment by Vince. Might as well change
his character name to Kronik 2002 (though it is silly naming one guy as a tag team, I know). Nash will be gone before the summer is over. Thank God.
And obviously I don't think that he will have any affect on Jericho. As for Benoit, if he forced Benoit out of the picture, that would be a good
thing. Chris Benoit is a talentless hack.
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dan
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| posted on 1-3-2002 at 11:26 PM |
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Looks like the experiment is over before it started
"The Rock will look to start 2002 on a positive note when he takes on Booker T on tonight's show. The winner of that bout will be the No. 1
contender for Chris Jericho's Undisputed World Wrestling Federation Championship!"
... The Rock wins tonight, and faces off with Chris Jericho at the Rumble, and pins him clean, center of the ring. Woop de freaking do. Heck, maybe
they'll even let The Rock face off with Chris Jericho on RAW, and have HHH distract Jericho so Rock can get the pin. I know someone's gonna cry
"ahh, Jericho mark, what's he done to deserve the title" ... but heck, I'm all for attempting to elevate someone and seeing it through. I remember
I was one of the few who said "enh, HHH hasn't quite gotten it yet, but I think he could grow into the role of top heel". It's shitty when people
don't even get a chance.
Then again, I might just be pessimistic and jumping the gun.
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Mox
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Jericho's not done yet. I see Rock winning the match tonight, and moving on to face Jericho at RAW on Monday, only to have HHH interfere so that he
can extract some revenge on the guy that "caused" HHH's injury. Don't forget that HHH was hitting Jericho when he tore his quad. This'll set
things up nicely for a HHH/Jericho feud over the title, as HHH will claim that it's his title anyways, just cause he's That Damn Good!
Where will Nash fit in all of this? Well, I'm sure the guys will have fun partying with him on the road...
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GenecentMan
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I still wonder with all this that I'm hearing about them trying to push Undertaker as a monster heel so HHH can go face, where he'll fit into all
this? He's getting close to the end, everyone knows it. Maybe he'll have one more shot at the top coming sometime soon.
Maybe not.
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I think your giving too much credit to Nash. No one person took down WCW, and I dont see any way Vince or the rest of the wrestlers in the lockeroom
would let Nash just walk in and ruin everything.
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DrOp
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I hope that Nash gets bounced if he starts making trouble. I have no doubt that H}{H won't let Nash ruin all that he's worked for. And he is just
one guy.
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General_Failure
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Jericho
I think the timing of the Jericho title win has already stacked things against him keeping the title for an extended period of time. You have to
assume that Austin, HHH and Rocky all will somehow be involved in the main event at WM, and unless they do something drastic to remove the "can't
win on his own" tag, Jericho would enter looking like a real lame duck champion. Look for the belt to be transitioned to one of those three (a la
Kurt Angle last year) either at RR or shortly afte.
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Operation Retard
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i agree that timing is jericho's enemy. there'sno way they'll let him headline WM, though i think they'll let him beat the rock at RR and ave him
lose it at (place next PPV name here) just o give hi a log enough run and keep him credible as a champion and a main eventer.
personally i woud run with him and let him go on to WM with the belt and have HHH win he rumble. then go on to give austin and rock 2 seperate high
profile matches against whoever to make WM this amaing super card which is what WM supposed t be anyway.
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Jebus
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I have a sneaking suspision that Nash will be "hurt" or released soon after his debut. When was the last time he was on TV consistantly for a year?
Even half of one?
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HHHBK
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HHH will cost Jericho the belt as he loses it to the Rock at the Rumble. Austin will win the Rumble, setting up the much anticipated rematch between
Rock and Austin for the belt as WM. Smarts will hate it crying that Jericho was screwed. Fans will love it, as the WWF has actually done a good job
avoiding this one on one match-up since the Rock has returned. It will be a good thing as an excited crowd equals an exciting match often. Jericho
and HHH will have the second slot on the card in a major grudge match over Stephanie, who may eventually have to side with Jericho if they want HHH to
be a face.
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derfsucks
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quote:
Originally posted by Jebus
I have a sneaking suspision that Nash will be "hurt" or released soon after his debut. When was the last time he was on TV consistantly for a year?
Even half of one?
See, I'm pretty split down the middle on the Nash issue. I mean, yeah, any rational thought process leads me to believe that Kevin Nash just is not
nearly as valuable to the wrestling world as he was four years ago, strictly because of his attitude and known work ethic (or lack thereof).
However, Nash is a well-known big man, something that Vinnie Mac's always been in love with. And, let's face it, he's a much more marketable big
man than someone like, say, the Big Show. Nash at times showed glimpses of his old motivated self in a few WCW interviews before things went
downhill, and a motivated Nash could DEFINITELY provide a boost to the WWF scene.
However, Vinnie's gotta keep two things in serious consideration with Big Lazy - 1) the fact that Nash is old and past his prime, meaning he's got a
DEFINITE shelf life of value to the fed, and 2) Motivating Kevin Nash has the potential to be harder than wrestling a Ho-Ho away from a fat
10-year-old.
Pros and Cons, Pros and Cons ... I certainly do hope it works out, though, because while I don't think it's a very likely scenario in any respect, I
still do have some amount of belief that Nash could possibly be somewhat of a valuable role-player in the WWF.
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Cuthbert
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Someone mentioned how Undertaker is reachingg the end of the line and how he might turn face again. This is very true and has not been very secret:
Undertaker asked to be a heal this time, so that he can have one more face turn and go out as a face. This has been the plan since well before the
start of this heel turn, and the WWF nor the Undertaker has never hidden this fact.
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EvilAsh
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True lots of good points. It would be cool if Jericho was given a good chance. Hopefully they do something smart with the canadian connection they
have been building between him ,Christian,Test and Lance Storm.
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TheNivek
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I honestly don't see Jericho making it to the Royal Rumble the champ. Don't get me wrong, I'm the biggest Jericho mark out there, but I just got
the feeling last night that he will be losing the title between now and the Rumble, always seems to be the case when they repeat over and over that
the number one contender will go on to face the undisputed champion rather than just say who is currently champ. My guess is that they'll be
switching it off to Triple H, depending on how ready to go he is.
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zombiecraig
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I'd have to say that HHHBK may have something there. I've been expecting a Rock/Austin main event at WM ever since Rock came back from his summer
break. However, that doesn't mean I have to like it. That would mean that 3 of the last 4 WMs would be headlined by that same main event. Isn't
anyone getting a little tired of that? I really wish someone else could be elevated to that status. Although I would rather see a one-on-one match
than a 3 or 4-way in the main event. Go back and watch WM2000. Okay, the main event wasn't that bad, but it wasn't much better than some Raw main
event. And don't get me started on that tag ladder match spotfest. Whoo...what a thrill. Actually, I'm just going to blame my hatred for this
show on the almost always lousy Anaheim crowd. I know the card was pretty boring but the Anaheim crowd killed even the decent matches by sleeping
through them. They only awoke for their hero...ROCKY!
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Mox
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Wrestlemania Main Events
Truth be told, with the matches that Austin and the Rock had in their WM main events, I wouldn't object seeing the match again, simply because they
put on DAMN good matches together! Sure, I'd LOVE to see some new blood elevated to main event "The Grandaddy of Them All", and would probably be
more pumped about it if there was new blood involved (HHH, Jericho, Angle, etc), but if it ends up being Rock/Austin III at WMX-8, I'll stand up and
cheer just like the rest of the crowd (yes, I'll be there for my FIRST Wrestlemania!).
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djsoda666
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well for what its worth i hope it is HHH and y2j at wm it would make sense it would be a great I cannot spell 'feud' and it would really get y2j over as a main eventer
i like the idea of HHH haveing to win the rumble to reestablish him self as a big time player then he can just f with y2j untill wm
im going to stop now i think im rambling
"i drink blood so you dont have to"
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VEGA$
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I'm hoping Jericho keeps the title as long as possible but I don't see him keeping it past WM. Even that might be pushing it. HHH is back and he
won't want to stay out of the title picture for long. He won't be doing any jobs when he returns either. So it is just a matter of time before
Jericho drops the title to him. Ahh the benefits of banging the boss' daughter.
Also with WM being in Toronto, Jericho would be getting a bigger face reaction than his opponent would if he makes it that far. That fact alone could
keep him out of the main event.
Will the championship remain unified after the split. Jericho is the only one still carrying two belts so I don't think it will stay unified.
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starvenger
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quote:
Originally posted by VEGA$
Also with WM being in Toronto, Jericho would be getting a bigger face reaction than his opponent would if he makes it that far. That fact alone could
keep him out of the main event.
One thing that actually intrigues me is Jericho's "friends" from last Thursday. Consider:
- Jericho seems to want a group of people to help him hang on to the title(s).
- They're all Canadian
- Lex... er, Test has immunity, so he can be an enforcer of sorts
- Storm and Christian are good singles competitors who are also good tag team wrestlers.
Coincidence, or red herring? Just something that popped up when I saw that segment...
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