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I'm not sure if anyone's said this yet but WWE's thinking with Cody is probably as follows: they probably want to keep Cody as a
heel, even if he's now embittered against Orton, just for the simple reason that no one really gives a flying fuck about Cody Rhodes as face.
Especially if that new face just ended up jobbing out to Orton about eleventy-hundred times over the course of whatever feud they slotted him into.
I don't have the visceral hate for young Mr. Rhodes they way that some do but, just like Orton, he's only there because of his last name
IMO. I see them getting a shit-load of mileage out of Ted Jr. over the years and as far as I'm concerned fans should be just screaming to demand
that Ted gets hot-shotted along his path the way a young Rocky Johnson once was. I do genuinely think that Ted does have that much possible potential.
But Cody? No way. He's a big ball of animated meh walking around. He's as easily disposable as Hawkins and Deuce/Domino turned out to be.
So he's probably better off if they keep him as a heel lackey to Orton for the foreseeable future because he'd probably be second place on
the new future endeavoured list behind Chris Masters if he wasn't getting the rub off of his association with Herr Bagshitter.
I will give Cody credit though for making the last moments of last night's show at least memorable. Getting a chant going out of a crowd that
seemed more or less dead all night isn't something to be sneezed at, even if a lot of the cheering was leftovers from what the fans gave to Cena
and DX.
I can't play "Diablo" anymore because when the Goatmen come out and start shooting arrows at me I start laughing too much. Thanks a lot,
OO!
Ewww! Gross! Why is it red inside?
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LuckyLopez
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They may not have realized the crowd would take to him like that but they SHOULD have realized that was the setup for a face turn. It was Face Turn
101. Now if they were scared the crowd might not take to it could they have called an audible? Sure. If they just plain don't want to turn
Cody could they could have rewrote it. But to write THAT story and have it end with Cody standing in the corner crying? All it does is emasculate
Cody and I can't see how any sane or intelligent person could see it having any other purpose. And it doesn't matter that RAW's
writers are routinely idiots. THAT was another special moment of idiocy.
I'm not saying WWE should have gone into that night expecting a big Cody turn. I'm saying if you book THAT story then you're doing
it hoping for a positive crowd response. So to end it like THAT? And I said it before but I don't even think Cody NEEDED to turn. If Dibiase
went and held Cody back and kept him in the corner I think its completely different. Because then the story is Dibiase keeping Cody from attacking
Orton, not Cody being a little bitch.
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the goon
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But why should we care that Cody Rhodes was emasculated? Has he been built up recently, only to be torn back down by what happened last night? No. Has
the crowd been demanding that he be moved to the main event scene, but now his chances are ruined? No. Has he had a long simmering face turn that was
horribly derailed last night? No. Cody Rhodes is a heel midcarder and what happened last night is perfectly in line with what he's been for the
last year.
We're just on two different planets here, because at the end of last night's show, my thoughts were basically "Huh, Orton actually did
something kind of cool and Cody actually did something kind of interesting." Not "Fuck, Cody looked like a total pussy and he will forever be a
pussy and fuck him."
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gobbledygooker
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quote:
Originally posted by the goon
"Fuck, Cody looked like a total pussy and he will forever be a pussy and fuck him."
See, this is my point for this whole thread. That the above statement will forever hold true regardless of storyline, gimmick, or anything else.
Originally posted by punkerhardcore -
"Seriously, Rock Band > Guitar Hero. Guitar Hero is like the cute girl who makes out with you for the first time, which is awesome because it's
new and exciting. Then Rock Band comes along and is like the chick who blows you your junior year of high school... and then that first girl just
doesn't look quite so fun anymore."
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Gobshite
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Knowing WWE, they're setting us up for a Cody face turn at Breaking Point, where he can turn on Orton and cost him the title. Then we get
Cena/Orton AGAIN at the Hell in a Cell PPV.
If some how Legacy got the win over DX, without Orton or cheating, and turned face at the same time, they'd be a perfect foil for JeriShow.
Plus, Teddy would be a face and have a belt when his stupid movie comes out.
I'll just hold my breath for once. Batista didn't turn the first time HHH pissed him off. He gave him one RKO for cryin out loud, he
didn't bloody him up and put him back in polka dots. I think the natural conclusion to Cena / Orton is to get the title on Cena, and this
isn't the worst way to go about it. Rematch while Legacy pick up the tag titles, and then Big Show is free to face Cena for a couple of months
to build him up some more before HHH turns and begins reign number... 15?
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southermagu
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I didn't mind Cody crying like a bitch. I just had an issue with him not showing any form of real aggression.
Lucky, I almost mentioned the idea of Ted holding him back from assaulting Orton myself, but that wouldn't have done anything for Ted or the
group as a whole.
To me the image of Legacy and Orton being on three completely different pages would have been a lasting one.
Ted's already gotten a couple of cases of sass mouth with Orton and it's about damn time they did something with it. Anything with
it.
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Wickedfrost
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I don't know. I thought the Cody stuff was great for the whole Legacy storyline.
Orton is a stronger heel because of it. Legacy is ruled by fear rather than loyalty. It sets up a future breakup without forcing the issue right
away.
I got the same vibe out of his performance as Anakin Skywalker when he had to decide whether or not to keep Mace Windu from killing the Emperor in
Star Wars.
Do you smell what Barack is cookin'?
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Fifth Horseman
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"Orton is a stronger heel because of it. Legacy is ruled by fear rather than loyalty. It sets up a future breakup without forcing the issue right
away."
Really? Maybe, but I can't imagine being afraid of Randy Orton. What is the worst thing he can do - kick Rhodes out? What has being
associated with him gotten him lately? Or beaten up? He's a professional wrestler, he can handle himself.
Legacy isn't a stable like Raven's Flock, where a bunch of off-kilter journeymen were drawn together by a charismatic leader. They should
exude superiority, with Orton first amongst equals. The most glaring problem is that Orton has not, and probably will never be, accepted in this
role, as evidenced by TV ratings and comments on this board.
And I certainly can't buy him as a fear-inducing ruler. That's just me.
A short fantasy book here... Bob Barker (God bless him for being so hip with the PG-audience out there) books a rematch with Rhodes and Orton,
stipulating that if neither gives an "honest effort", the title is vacated. Orton wins over a game Rhodes; Rhodes gets some revenge for what
happened the previous week, and gains some respect back. They leave as allies.
[Edited on 9-2-2009 by Fifth Horseman]
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Thom
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quote:
Originally posted by Gobshite
Knowing WWE, they're setting us up for a Cody face turn at Breaking Point, where he can turn on Orton and cost him the title.
This could work well. Cody could simply come out the next night on RAW and cut a promo how, after Orton attacked his father, Cody - instead of
just reacting out of rage - planned a way to get back at Orton in a way that would hurt Randy worst. He caused Randy to lose what he considered most
precious - the WWE Title. Cody played Orton just like Orton has been playing he and Ted. Or something like that. So, it won't happen is my
bet.
Mick Foley - the pale white guy.
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Money Anyway" - Moose, during No Way Out 2008 chat
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LuckyLopez
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That's the exact thing I expect to happen and I for one won't give a flying fuck. Fuck Cody and his "master plan." They lost the
chance to make me care about Cody Monday night and I'm sure as fuck not going to come back to his side because he schemed to get the belt off
Randy in a story that doesn't even make a ton of logical character sense. Fuck it.
Yeah, "rule by fear" doesn't work either. Because again, it makes Cody (and Dibiase) look like a coward backing away from a school yard
bully. When we all know that if he stands up to him the worst the bully can do is fight him, and if he does that Cody's capable of holding his
own. And if not he will find allies. We all learned that shit when we were kids. So if the story is that Cody and Dibiase haven't? Maybe
that appeals to a 12-year-old audience who can relate to the position of those 30-year-old men, but it makes us look down on them for obvious
reasons.
quote:
Originally posted by the goon
But why should we care that Cody Rhodes was emasculated? Has he been built up recently, only to be torn back down by what happened last night? No. Has
the crowd been demanding that he be moved to the main event scene, but now his chances are ruined? No. Has he had a long simmering face turn that was
horribly derailed last night? No. Cody Rhodes is a heel midcarder and what happened last night is perfectly in line with what he's been for the
last year.
Its not about Cody, man. Its about the missed chance. Cody Rhodes, Evan Bourne, Tyler Reks, Jack Swagger, Harry Smith, it doesn't matter. Any
young guy finds himself in that situation, booked in that story, and having the crowd behind him I react the same way. Its RAW shooting itself in the
foot. Because whether you or I care about Cody they WANT us to. And that was a chance to make it happen (maybe not you, but at the very least me and
all those people chanting his name). And they did NOTHING with it. They didn't even keep it dangling with a typical wrestling cliffhanger by
having Cody held back or Orton slink away. Cody just stood there crying and choosing not to do anything.
Really, you and your brother seemed locked into it being about Cody. Fuck Cody. I don't care one way or another about Cody. If they ran the
same situation with Bourne I'd react the same exact way. And people would be more upset because they want Bourne pushed. But from WWE's
perspective its the same difference because they want ALL of them to get over. And that segment helped no one.
[Edited on 9-2-2009 by LuckyLopez]
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quote:
Originally posted by Wickedfrost
I got the same vibe out of his performance as Anakin Skywalker when he had to decide whether or not to keep Mace Windu from killing the Emperor in
Star Wars.
That's funny because Hayden Christensen is such a horrible, wooden actor and his skills are right there with both Randy Orton AND Cody Rhodes.
Everything about this girl is awesome. She's hot, she got kicked out of school for sucking too many dicks, she takes it in the ass and her body
gives itself abortions. -Punker on Lilly Allen's Miscarriage
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Fifth Horseman
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"It's not about Cody, man. Its about the missed chance. "
Microplayed.
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knuckleballschwartz
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I think we see a double turn down the line with Ted and Cody both turning on Orton and royally messing him up - Cody gets elevated for "finding the
inner strength" to stand up for himself and his family, ted gets elevated even more for helping lead Cody into it and being the stronger of the two
mentally and Orton gets protected a little cos of the double team.
If I was booking it I'd have Orton beat the crap out of golddust next week to teach Cody a lesson for his show of dissent first.
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Biff_Manly
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The only thing more boring than Legacy as bad guys would be Legacy as good guys. They don't even have the generic personality that the WWF would
have given a babyface team in the 80's.
Still Cody should have at least tackled Orton. Now he just looks like a bitch.
"Walter: I can solve everything by making this gramophone have sex with time."
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Lorraine
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quote:
Originally posted by Fifth Horseman
Why would Cody Rhodes let Orton RKO his dad?
I'm hoping it's the set-up for Ted's turn. Cody didn't stand up to Orton; Teddy will.
I'm torn about the effectiveness of this scene. Pros are I love a douchey heel, and Orton's RKO to Dusty for no reason other than
pettiness is very douchey, and if the goal was to make me dislike Cody more, it worked. Help your dad, dude. I dislike Cody. Creepy little troll that
he is, so I'm not too distraught he didn't go face.
The con is that WWE has trouble building faces, and this seemed as easy an opportunity as they've had in a long time.
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nobledictator
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Man, I know I have said this but I think right now they have Cody in a prime position to be quite the interesting character. The fact is as we all
agree Cody was a bitch on Monday...something that judging by his reaction in the ring will eat that character up.
This is where the fun could come in have the talent heel, face whatever totally shun Cody as a little bitch. Maybe Cody tries to redeem himself and
does cost Orton the title the next night Cody thinks he has paid pentance for his sin..but he is still just a little bitch.
Go even further with it have his dad be seriously injured and Cody totally blame himself. If you really want to go broke have Dusty come back after a
few weeks and tell his son how disappointed he was in him, how the biggest regret in his life is that he raised a coward.
During this have Ted Dibiase pretty much say that yeah he slapped his old man but he would never have let Orton do that to his old man. Have Ted
pretty much tell Cody he can't trust him anymore to have his back and be his partner.
Have Cody Rhodes just be totally isolated for what he did with the entire locker room, until Cody snaps, ideally with a pep talk from someone who sees
him moping in the locker room. Steamboat, Austin, Flair someone.
You can go along way with Cody trying to prove to his dad he isn't a coward all the way to the point in the future of Cody being in a no win
situation where his father finally comes out to help him and someone come after his father and this time Cody makes the right decision ending with his
father forgiving his son.
The story is there (missing some elements but there none the less)
I truly believe that the way Cody acted Monday night is far more interesting than a simple face turn.
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Chris Is Good517
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Well, we turned a thread about an utterly mediocre at best Raw into a 3 page thread about Cody fucking Rhodes and what he should have done or will do
in the future, so maybe WWE did have an inkling of what they were doing after all?
I dunno. I don't have the visceral hate for Cody that a lot of you guys do, but I sure as hell don't care much about him. Hell, if they
released him tomorrow and didn't announce it, I doubt I'd notice he's gone. He's a bland, vanilla, unremarkable performer in a
company that seems lately to encourage bland, vanilla unremarkability. I don't blame Cody for that; I blame WWE.
Either way, Lucky is right: WWE had an opportunity to make us care about him Monday night, and they pissed it away. Sure, they'll have
other opportunities to make us care again, but I don't know if they'll be able to recapture the oomph they could have had Monday
night if Cody would have flipped out and tried to beat the fuck out of Orton. Or even if Cody had tried to go after Orton and DiBiase talked him down.
Or something. But instead he just kinda put his head down and accepted it and it did make him look weak. And I have a feeling next week
they'll all be pretending it never happened and that whole segment will be rendered moot, other than WWE thinking "hey, they would have popped
for Cody, let's turn him face in 6 months" and by the time they get around to it the entire world will be back to not giving a shit about him.
(Adjusts webcam) Hey what up y'all. This y'all girl Lil' J and this lil' girl right here (pause) ain't scared of nobody
so if you got anything to say to me you can say it to my motherfuckin' face or send me a mother- (pause) or hit me up on my motherfuckin'
MySpace. I ain't scare and this little bitch right here will fuckin' kill yo ass. NICK-GAH. So if you have anything to say you can say it
to... (pause) me. (pause). And if you wanna bump let's go cause I ain't scared of yo motherfucking ass, aight, bitch, latah.
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the goon
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quote:
Originally posted by nobledictator
I truly believe that the way Cody acted Monday night is far more interesting than a simple face turn.
I pretty much agree with this.
I don't know, I just feel like it's being made out like the WWE missed out on this once in a lifetime, golden opportunity to turn Cody
Rhodes into a mega-face and I just don't see it that way at all. A Cody Rhodes face turn had never even been discussed at any point until after
after Monday's RAW, so I don't see the WWE failing to pull any trigger when there never really was a trigger to pull.
Again, just my opinion and I'm fine with just agreeing to disagree here, since we're obviously on way different sides of the spectrum. And
like Chris referenced, I think I've discussed Cody Rhodes more in my last three posts than I have in my last 2,000 or so combined.
And Lucky, sorry if my last post sounded a little pissed off...I was a few (or six) beers in when I typed that and looking back at it today I thought
it maybe sounded a little harsher than I meant it.
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chewey
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I've got a slightly different perspective on the Cody Rhodes situation. See, even if Cody *had* attacked Orton to defend his father, I still
wouldn't have cared about Cody. I would just have assumed that Orton got bored with Cody, punted him in the head, and kicked him out of the
group. Cody is a lackey, and will always be one face or heel.
The way I would turn it around is to use this event as a plot device for Ted Dibiase, who was standing in the other corner completely confused as to
what to do. On the one hand, he knows Orton was a dipshit for hitting that RKO on Dusty for no reason... on the other hand, he's watching Cody
Rhodes completely pussy out, so he's not going to stick up for the kid's father if Cody doesn't have the balls to do it himself.
But in the next couple of weeks, if we have Orton continue to treat Rhodes like a battered wife (hey, wasn't there an article on this site
written on that subject a few years back?), and Dibiase continues to be conflicted as to whether to let Orton continue to abuse Rhodes or to stay out
of a situation that he's not a part of, it could be leading to a subtle face turn, which would be just in time for Dibiase's B-movie to
come out on DVD.
And Cody Rhodes would probably stick with Orton the whole time, because I don't see him as anything less than a lackey for life... that and a
real life Daffy Duck look-alike, but I digress...
"Don't matter how many times you get burnt, you just keep doin' the same."
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DrBoz
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
Well, we turned a thread about an utterly mediocre at best Raw into a 3 page thread about Cody fucking Rhodes and what he should have done or will do
in the future, so maybe WWE did have an inkling of what they were doing after all?
I was thinking this last night as I was reading this thread. For a guy that most everyone here either dislikes or doesn't care about, there
sure is a lot of discussion about Cody F. Rhodes. Either people DO care more than I thought or people are so desperate for SOMETHING to happen that
the perception of blowing an opportunity to "make" Cody is more frustrating than would normally be the case.
I am not a Cody hater at all (except for his kneepads not being on his fucking knees which pisses me off WAY more than should be allowed for one
person). I think he speaks well for the most part, aside from some type of milder-than-Swagger speech impediment. I don't find Cody to be shit
in the ring. I also think he looks SO much like his father in the face (those horribly baggy eyes) that when I see Cody I immediately think of Dusty
and feel positively about him. I have the same reaction to D.H. Smith as well. The resemblance is so obvious that it strikes an emotional cord for
me. I think Cody could potentially be a fairly big player somewhere down the line, as long as he starts wearing GODDAMN KNEEPADS!
One thing I did want to ask everyone was why the consensus is that Ted Jr. is a bonafide future main eventer? I don't necessarily disagree that
this could be the case, but I can't really see why there is all that much difference between him and Cody at this point. Ted has a bit more of
the "look" when compared to Cody. Ted is a good looking guy as well. And he also appears to speak well too. I just don't see such an
obvious difference between him and Cody that screams "Ted = Future ME" and "Cody = Future Endeavored."
Calvin: "I used to hate writing assignments, but now I enjoy them. I realized that the purpose of writing is to inflate weak ideas, obscure poor
reasoning, and inhibit clarity. With a little practice, writing can be an intimidating and impenetrable fog!"
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blackdragon
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quote:
Originally posted by Frank Lloyd Wright
Big Show vs. Mark Henry - The silence of the crowd tells you all you need to know about this match. You would have gotten more action watching two
pigs wallow in the mud.
This comment made me want to see the match and I have to ask, was your t.v. on mute? It wasn't exactly Cena/Edge or Punk/Hardy heat, but that
crowd was far from quiet. Everything they did got a reaction. EVERYTHING. The grecco-roman knuckle lock, the head butts that hurt Show more than
Henry, the spear. Hell, the headlock spot got some decent cheers.
Rest of the show there was not much to comment on. Mickie and Beth was a decent match and Beth just looked vicious and brutal in the best of ways.
Then she sold that DDT like a fuckin' champ.
Fatal four way was good for a Raw match and it would probably help if any of these guys besides Miz got any mic time. Especailly, you know, the guy
that's held the belt the last few months.
The main event has been discussed to death and maybe because I don't have complete apathy for Cody, I thought he could have at least got in
Randy's face about the RKO. I still don't get where goon and gooker are getting the "he's always been a pussy" character trait
from though. Opportunistic, but flat out pussified? I haven't seen it until now.
A ho fucks everybody. A bitch fucks everybody but you.
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GodEatGod
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I think the Cody thing worked for me largely because it wasn't really about Cody. It was about Orton. Cody didn't strike because Orton
was supposed to be terrifying. While those of us who post around these parts tend to be less than enthusiastic about Orton (and, given that
it's the Rick's board and his Orton-hatred is well known, that's not surprising as a common opinion), that might seem to emasculate
Rhodes. But the powers-that-be at WWE and, from what I can tell, quite a bit of the fanbase DOES see Orton as a serious monster in his own way. How
many guys has he punted into injury time-outs at this point? He's done more "cripple guy" angles than anyone I can think of in recent memory.
That's been undercut more recently by his more cowardly, hide-behind-the-lackeys behavior. But Orton's already punted Dibiase in the
skull once and, theoretically, Cody should know that's exactly what he'll get if he crosses Randy. Does it set up for Legacy eventually
turning on him? Probably, but it laid those seeds largely in Orton's disregard for his lackeys. Plus, it again goes into the Legend Killer
part of his repertoire. As I said watching it, "C'mon, Cody, you know better than to let an old man wrestler stand next to Randy..."
I don't know if I'm defending the segment or not, frankly. Some of it worked for me, some if it didn't. Cody IS as bland as they
come and I can't see any long term run for him being successful. But I enjoyed it as a moment in and of itself and thought it did a good job of
putting over Randy as a guy who can beat up a man's father right in front of him and the guy's too scared to do anything about it. It
probably did make Cody look kind of like a bitch. But who cares?
I thought it was mostly a good show, but I watch it on DVR and could fast forward through Hornswoggle/Chavo. I agree about Show/Henry being
surprisingly good. It had nice psychology, with Show getting frustrated as he couldn't dominate Mark like he does everyone else, until he
finally cheated/snapped. I enjoyed the DX/Dusty skits, but they made me feel old as I had to explain them all to my friends who're about ten
years younger than I am...
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Wickedfrost
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I agree - Hayden Christiansen is a brutal actor on screen - but his simplistic, overacting style works in the ring where people a couple hundred feet
away have to understand what's going on.
Why this segment works - the E isn't aiming for us. They're aiming for kids who are going to understand that Orton is a bully. They
understand why Cody is not standing up to him -- because they have that going on in their lives.
And they'll cheer John Cena to high heaven when he stands up to him. The savior they're looking for in that first week of school as
they're selling the PPV.
This isn't about Cody Rhodes.
It's about Orton and Cena and selling the next 2 PPVS. The bit players in Legacy are doing their part in this storyline in a way that is
appropriate for their target demographic.
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I think what they were going for is that Cody didn't go for Orton, even though he wanted to, because he couldn't be sure he would have Ted
on his back helping Orton if he did. Even if he didn't there's still a good chance Orton would have hoofed him in the head.
I think the idea is that Orton has positioned himself in the group as the leader through strength, ability, smarts (hah) and aggressiveness. That Ted
and Cody stay in line because they don't believe they could take him. Which is a bit silly these days after their treatment of DX but there we
go.
On another note, my wife says Cody looks like a smack head and was amused to see him cry. Got to agree with her there. Maybe Orton gives him his fix.
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DKBroiler
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Registered 1-25-2008 Location Exit 5, New Jersey Member Is Offline Mood: meh...
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| posted on 9-3-2009 at 10:18 PM |
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Looks like I'm late to the party this week so I may as well jump into the Cody discussion.
Cody is a little bitch. That's pretty much indisputable as of right now, but I think that this topic has shown that "Cody Rhodes: Little
Bitch" is a lot more interesting then "Cody Rhodes: Marginal Talent". I got to watch this show with a few of my non wrestling buddies and they all
marked out when Orton RKO'd Dusty and then started yelling "YOU BITCH! WHAT A BITCH!!!" and other colorful phrases when Cody did nothing. If
the entire point is to get a reaction then mission accomplished.
As for the face turn, I don't know. It seems like the WWE has been trying their best lately to do non-standard WWE finishes. The SummerSlam
Raw Main Event is a good example of this. Maybe they are starting to stop everyone being either good or evil. One of the best things of the
"Attitude Era" was the shades of grey between good and evil. I will also add that I don't really mind either Cody or Dibiase but I also
don't understand what makes Dibiase that much better of a talent then Cody. Honestly, if anything, I'd say Cody is underrated and Ted is
a bit overrated.
I also enjoyed the Show vs Henry match. I've gone on record saying that I actually enjoy big man slobber-knocker matches so this entertained
me. Will it win any votes for "match of the year"? No. But it is believable that 2 monsters like Show and Henry would be forces. I would also
like to add that the most believable move in the 2 hour show was the tackle in that match.
The only other thing I'd like to comment on is the lack of follow up with Carlito against Vince or DX. All I know is that if you sucker punch
me I'd not be too happy about it. I just don't understand why Carlito isn't in the main events. Dude is better in the ring AND on
the mic then 90% of the roster.
Overall Score: 2.9
"DKBroiler may kinda suck*, but not even one-tenth as bad as I've seen other people suck on other parts of the intarwebs..." -The Rick, August
2009
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