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Author: Subject: 10 more years of the Viper
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posted on 1-28-2010 at 01:48 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
10 more years of the Viper

The guy shit in a girls bag, trashed a hotel room, was one of the worst babyface Champions in recent history and has on air hissy fits, so how does WWE punish him? They give him a long term deal rumored to be around 10 years, plus his take for WM 25? $600,000.00

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Dave Meltzer is reporting that Randy Orton signed a long-term contract with WWE, one report has it as a ten-year deal.

There is also word that he received a $600,000 Wrestlemania payoff this year.







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posted on 1-28-2010 at 01:53 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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posted on 1-28-2010 at 01:56 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Was there some part of you that thought WWE wouldn't sign one of their youngest and biggest stars to a long term deal because he's kind of an asshole?
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posted on 1-28-2010 at 02:10 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I can't wait to see how long it takes him to walk to the ring with nine added years of age and injury.





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posted on 1-28-2010 at 03:19 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
They just wanted to make sure TNA didn't grab him.

Suck on THAT Dixie!





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posted on 1-28-2010 at 03:25 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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They just wanted to make sure TNA didn't grab him.

Suck on THAT Dixie!


Somehow I imagined Dixie reading this thread, then laughing and laughing and laughing until tears streamed down her cheeks, and then saying "as if we wanted him".


(And then if you want to get really cynical and bitter about TNA's new direction, she adds "We have Bubba the Love Sponge!" )





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posted on 1-28-2010 at 03:41 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Somehow I imagined Dixie reading this thread, then laughing and laughing and laughing until tears streamed down her cheeks, and then saying "as if we wanted him".


And when you imagined her reading this thread, what did you imagine her wearing?





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posted on 1-28-2010 at 03:42 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
With the Nastys, Hall, 6 Pac, 3D, and rumors of the Honky Tonk Man, TNA will absolutely be interested in 10 years to get Randy Orton
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And when you imagined her reading this thread, what did you imagine her wearing?


Would you believe it if I told you "a pearl necklace"?





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posted on 1-28-2010 at 04:04 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Would you believe it if I told you "a pearl necklace"?


Oddly enough, yes. In a classy black negligee maybe? Or just the pearls?





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posted on 1-28-2010 at 04:27 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Lets look at the positive side, last time Vince signed one of his top talents to such a long term deal, he screwed him in his home town. When's the next St. Louis show?





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posted on 1-28-2010 at 04:28 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Problem with Orton is that he is a terrible face and that he was pushed so fast so young. So he has a long career in front of him and can't be kept fresh(er) with face/heel turns.





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posted on 1-28-2010 at 05:30 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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They just wanted to make sure TNA didn't grab him.

Suck on THAT Dixie!


Somehow I imagined Dixie reading this thread, then laughing and laughing and laughing until tears streamed down her cheeks, and then saying "as if we wanted him".


LOL yeah right TNA grabs every single WWE retread there is they would be doing back flips the moment Orton even sniffed at TNA. I fully expect to see the fat guy that danced in underwear to show up on TNA one day just because he was WWE. TNA don't create talent they bury it with WWE's old talent.

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posted on 1-28-2010 at 03:16 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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LOL yeah right TNA grabs every single WWE retread there is they would be doing back flips the moment Orton even sniffed at TNA. I fully expect to see the fat guy that danced in underwear to show up on TNA one day just because he was WWE. TNA don't create talent they bury it with WCW's old talent.


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posted on 1-28-2010 at 03:52 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I watched Raw last night and I am more convinced then ever that Randy Orton really thinks he is Cobra Commander.

In all seriousness though, regardless of what you think about Orton, Dixie Carter would have offered him the moon if he became available. Frankly, other then Cena, there isn't a guy who could move from the WWE's current roster to TNA and make a larger (no pun intended) impact.

All of the guys who are more famous then him (Undertaker and DX) are too old to do anything long term and all of the guys that are his contemporaries aren't nearly as famous as he is. Even guys like Punk (who is the man by the way) or, obviously, Jeff Hardy wouldn't be that big of a deal.

WWE had to do this. They made their slithery bed a long time ago.





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posted on 1-28-2010 at 04:42 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I'm of the opinion Orton thinks he's the bad guy from DieHard 4. Everything is spot on, performance-wise (and motivation-wise, substitute "Bruce Willis' daughter" with "HHH's wife," and you'll be able to guess roughly when I came up with the comparison), and unless I miss my guess, he really did perfect his current lethargic-quietly-intense-super-genius-with-repressed-anger-issues persona (who also surrounds himself with incompetent lackeys, and who is also mostly just boring as fuck a cookie-cutter character as one could imagine) roughly around the time that movie was out.

The difference is: DieHard 4 only asks you to give a shit about that bland bad-guy for 90 minutes, not for 2 hours every week. Also: DieHard is all about the good-guy being awesomely amusing, and the bad-guy being generic, forgettable, and dead before too long, so as not to waste time or upstage Bruce Willis. So why, oh why, does HHH keep getting a hard on to feud with Orton, when clearly he should have thrown him off a building to his grisly death by now?

And hey: didn't we already have this thread?

Why, yes, we did: http://www.oowrestling.com/OOForums/viewthread.php?tid=21426.

I'm not gonna repeat myself, since every single thing I said in my first post there still stands, from my sense of resignation that Orton's gonna be around in 10 years no matter what, to my analysis of WWE's negotiation strategy. Just go read it the first time I said it, if you care.

As for a twist in THIS discussion: what, if anything, does it say if it took Orton 14 damned months to decide to accept an offer that's apparently been on the table the whole time?



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posted on 1-28-2010 at 05:33 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
"As for a twist in THIS discussion: what, if anything, does it say if it took Orton 14 damned months to decide to accept an offer that's apparently been on the table the whole time? "

1) He can't read.
2) He reads reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy slowly.
3) It took 14 months to edit out each hiss.
4) He reads normally, but had to stare at it for over a year while Michael Cole explained how vipery is viperiness is vipery.
5) He was waiting for an offer from the Yankees that was longer and for more money.
6) He had to wait for Mark McGuire to return to St. Louis so he could guarentee his roid hookup.
7) He didn't have time to sign it in between daily oiling of Cody and Ted's shoulders.
8) He was waiting on a guarentee of yearly Iron Man matches. Next year, Khali v Orton.
9) He couldn't find the time to fit it in between 3 minute matches and 25 minute promos.
10) He was worried that in 10 years he would be a legend and then would have to kill himself.





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posted on 1-28-2010 at 07:44 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Trying to understand what WWE sees in Orton is like that Seinfeld episode where Elaine was wondering if there was more to Newman than met the eye. Jerry's deadpan response of "No, I've looked Newman in the eye. He's pure evil." could more-or-less be used to sum up the reality of Orton.





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I watched Raw last night and I am more convinced then ever that Randy Orton really thinks he is Cobra Commander.


Maybe that Cobra symbol Punk wears is some inside joke amongst the wrestlers? Like, in 2004, in Evolution, he started bragging: "Years from now, it will not be Triple H in charge. I'll be in charge. Like on that show I watched growing up. John Cena may think he's all GI Joe, but I'm like Cobra. I'll be Cobra Commander!!!" Then Punk heard about it and several other indy wrestlers dared him to get a tattoo of the Cobra symbol so he could get a WWE job.

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They just wanted to make sure TNA didn't grab him.



Then they said, "wait? Randy? I thought you said BOB Orton was available. Who's this Randy guy?"

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As much as our OO Universe doesn't think he's worth a shit, we are definitely in the minority of the overall opinion wrestling fans have of young Randall.





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As much as our OO Universe doesn't think he's worth a shit, we are definitely in the minority of the overall opinion wrestling fans have of young Randall.


You might have a point, if only TV ratings every time Orton has been elevated to a top spot (dating back to 2004) didn't clearly indicate otherwise. Haven't I done the math on that for you people enough times that it -- in the literal sense -- "goes without saying," at this point?

The guy *does* sell some merchandise (he's usually got the #3 or #4 t-shirt, at least), and yes, I admit even I hear the vocal minority of chants/cheers at some live shows. But hey: I also know from experience that there are a lot of douchebags out there, and they probably look up to Randall.

Or, more to the point: booking a product or promoting a guy based on your most-loyal fans' t-shirt buys and live show reactions alone would be stupid if you really want an accessible product enjoyed by normal, mentally-healthy people with a sense of what's kinda cool and entertaining.

It'd be almost as bad as TNA actually giving a shit what the ImpactZone Wankers say. Almost....


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