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Jericho and Hurricane arrested
[Quote]According to PWInsider.com, Chris Jericho and Gregory "Hurricane" Helms were arrested this morning in Kenton County, KY around 5 AM this
morning by the Erlanger (KY) Police Department. Jericho and Helms were both charged with alcohol intoxication in a public place. Each of them were
bonded out in a little more than an hour. Kenton County is close to Cincinnati, OH, where WWE taped Smackdown last night.
One person with knowledge of the jurisdiction sent word that they will probably be given a 50 dollar fine and it could have been a situation as
innocent as an officer smelling alcohol on their breath
Lol at the bottom part
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LuckyLopez
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One person with knowledge of the jurisdiction sent word that they will probably be given a 50 dollar fine and it could have been a situation as
innocent as an officer smelling alcohol on their breath
"One wrestling fan who has an irrational attachment to one of these wrestlers and a silly need to believe they're not flawed humans said
something completely irrelevant with no true knowledge of the situation in an effort to alleviate all guilt from the parties in question."
[Edited on 1-28-2010 by LuckyLopez]
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SeanSmythe
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The sad part about Jericho, this is his 3rd semi bad news in 2 years, the guys is a father of 3 and almost if not 40 already...he may want to tone
down in public.
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Chris Is Good517
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Public intox really is a tricky thing, though. It isn't necessarily a morally terrible thing and we don't know the context of the
story. If 'Cane and Jericho were heading in from a long night of drinking, stopped at a McDonalds to order burgers and were told they could only
order breakfast now and cussed somebody out in the drive-thru until the police were called its a stupid situation but not something that makes them
bad people. A little irresponsible maybe, but not bad. But if they were leaving a bar and stopped to harass some girls or pick a fight with some frat
boys, then yeah, they need to grow up.
No matter what actually happened, whether it was something terrible or something relatively innocent like stumbling and giggling in the wrong place at
the wrong time, the old adage absolutely applies to them as well as the rest of us: nothing good happens after 1 a.m. Ever.
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SeanSmythe
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Except booty calls
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LuckyLopez
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
If 'Cane and Jericho were heading in from a long night of drinking, stopped at a McDonalds to order burgers and were told they could only order
breakfast now and cussed somebody out in the drive-thru until the police were called its a stupid situation but not something that makes them bad
people. A little irresponsible maybe, but not bad.
I dunno... I'm pretty sure I'd call them bad there. I mean, not evil and terrible... but I'm not sure cursing off some people
because of rules they have no say over counts as bad.
Still, you're right, of course. Its possible they were more or less innocent or just guilty of little crimes like taking a moment to take a
piss on the wall. But that little blurb at the end really did stink of "OMG, a smark favorite was arrested... how do we best frame this to look like
he didn't do wrong when the only information we have suggests he did?" It made me chuckle at the inherent markism of smarks.
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Chris Is Good517
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Oh, totally agreed, Lucky, but I've come to expect that by now. That thread from a year ago when Jericho hit that woman where damn near
everybody on this board but the two of us scrambled to lay the blame at the feet of anybody but Jericho is pretty strong evidence that
he is one of the internet's sacred cows and were he ever found standing over the dead body of a WWE diva with a bloody knife, then the obvious
reactions would be a) "Orton stabbed her and handed the knife off to Jericho", b) "If the stupid whore didn't want to be stabbed she
shouldn't've jumped in front of the knife! It ain't Jericho's fault!", or c) "Security's fault for not intervening
faster. Pshaw!"
Its the first rule of being a wrestling fan on the internet: if someone has good matches and generally entertains you, he cannot be held accountable
for his actions as a person, nor can he be held to the same standards as anybody else.
Workrate = amnesty.
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Thank God it wasn't Randy who got arrested, he would have been made champ for at least a year.
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FYI - Here's the story from the local newspaper via Cincinnati.com. It doesn't add much. However the link does include the mugshots.
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20100128/NEWS0107/301280029/Professional-wrestlers-Gregory-Hurricane-Helms-and-Christopher-Irvine-charged-with-drun
kenness
"ERLANGER - Two professional wrestlers were arrested in Northern Kentucky this week and charged with being drunk in public.
WWE wrestlers Christopher "Jericho" Irvine, 39, of Odessa, Fla., and Gregory "Hurricane" Helms, 35, of Smithfield, N.C., were booked into the
Kenton County jail on charges of public alcohol intoxication about 5:45 a.m. Wednesday, jail officials said Thursday.
The duo were picked up by Erlanger police for being drunk at a Shell gas station on Dixie Highway, according to the jail.
Both men were released from the jail less than an hour later -- about 6:30 a.m. -- after paying fines of $120 in cash, jail officials said.
The two were part of a group of several wrestlers in the Greater Cincinnati region for a "SmackDown" event Tuesday night at U.S. Bank Arena in
downtown Cincinnati.
Erlanger police declined comment Thursday, referring comment to an agency spokesman who will not be available until later."
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quote:
a) "Orton stabbed her and handed the knife off to Jericho"
LOL. Awesome.....
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WWE wrestlers Christopher "Jericho" Irvine, 39, of Odessa, Fla., and Gregory "Hurricane" Helms, 35, of Smithfield, N.C., were booked into
the Kenton County jail on charges of public alcohol intoxication about 5:45 a.m. Wednesday, jail officials said Thursday.
That's the most interesting booking of Helms anyone's done in a while.
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quote:
Originally posted by DriftThroughTimeThat's the most interesting booking of Helms anyone's done in a while.
Awesome...
It must have been the Red Kryptonite!
Too bad it was after the tapings. Punk cutting a promo on these two would be awesome going into the Rumble.
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kiez
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Theres still chance for a little dig at them at the Rumble...
Im amazed they were even fined...but I guess that depends how drunk they were and what they were doing to get arrested.
I bet it was fun at the time, though!
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atothej
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Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
Oh, totally agreed, Lucky, but I've come to expect that by now. That thread from a year ago when Jericho hit that woman where damn near
everybody on this board but the two of us scrambled to lay the blame at the feet of anybody but Jericho is pretty strong evidence that
he is one of the internet's sacred cows and were he ever found standing over the dead body of a WWE diva with a bloody knife, then the obvious
reactions would be a) "Orton stabbed her and handed the knife off to Jericho", b) "If the stupid whore didn't want to be stabbed she
shouldn't've jumped in front of the knife! It ain't Jericho's fault!", or c) "Security's fault for not intervening
faster. Pshaw!"
Its the first rule of being a wrestling fan on the internet: if someone has good matches and generally entertains you, he cannot be held accountable
for his actions as a person, nor can he be held to the same standards as anybody else.
Workrate = amnesty.
Damn, man, when did FistHiccups start writing your posts?
Seriously, that is a very "you're all stupid smarks" reaction to this story. First, you should go back and reread that Jericho v. Fans
thread. It's not simply people scrambling to find every reason that Jericho was not as culpable as you and Lucky seemed to believe. Primarily,
it was people explaining why - based on the video included with the story - Jericho's reaction could be considered reasonable.
Second, the comparison to Orton was brought up in that thread, but I guess the argument bears repeating. Jericho gets the benefit of the doubt
because he generally hasn't had a history of being a dick. Orton does, and the stories have been substantiated. Given Jericho's recent
incidents, perhaps that view of the two will change. Nevertheless, Orton doesn't get the same benefit of the doubt because he has behaved like
a total dick in the past.
It has nothing to do with workrate, it has to do with perceived character. If Funaki was accused of some dickish behavior, I would probably wait to
hear the facts come out; not because of his workrate history, but because of his character history.
Now, I understand you were being deliberately hyperbolic to make your point, so I'm not even going to get into the examples. I just think you
should reexamine why certain people get more benefit of the doubt than others, and you may find that it's based on the history of their
out-of-ring character, and not their in-ring performance. I can't speak for everyone's perceptions on this point, but I know that the
Jericho thread that you referenced definitely demonstrated the former rather than the latter.
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The perceived character thing (and how one's past resume exhibits said character) is all well and good and a nice thing to bring up... but that
can only get you so far.
How many of us have first-hand knowledge of what these guys are like? How many of us are naive enough to think that whatever trickles down through the
smark news grapevine represents the totality of Wrestler Behavior? I mean, even *I* have stories told to me that I don't repeat in print,
because they have nothing to do with anything any fan should really care about; imagine what "journalists" like Meltzer or Keller are keeping to
themselves out of a sense of discretion.
Just as a fer-instance: I could have told you Sean O'Haire was a total prick and a worthless human being back in 2001 when I had the
"pleasure" of sharing his company in catering at the Pillman Memorial Event, YEARS before he started punching women and getting arrested on a
bi-annual basis. But I didn't. It took the rasslin' world about 5-6 years to figure out what I knew way back when.
Anyway, my point here is that even I don't pretend to really know EVERYthing about everybody in the business, and as such, I don't think
anybody else should try, either. At least, not if your entire thesis is based on a LACK of bad behavior. There may be rare cases of phenomenal
asstards like Randy Orton being a Douchebag Of Comission. But just cuz you haven't heard any tales doesn't mean some guys out there
aren't skating by under the radar as Douchebags Of Omission.
Also: it was offered up dripping and slathered in irony and scathing sarcasm, but I'm a big enough man to admit that, for me, yes, "Workrate
DOES = Amnesty."
Well, maybe not "workrate" in the pure wanker sense... but I've long said that if you're actually good at what you do, you get a bit
more of a pass from me in terms of how you behave when you're "off the clock." If you're gonna act like a selfish ass in "real life,"
I give increasingly less of a shit about it the more I can selfishly be entertained/impressed by whatever work of yours I consume. I'm never
gonna meet you or be the target of your assholitude, but I WILL see you on TV, so just do your job well, and I won't stand in line to crucify
you for what a worthless choade you are.
It's that simple.
It's why I can remain a fan of Pete Rose, for instance, and support his campaign to assume his rightful place in the Hall of Fame. Dumbass or
not, he's got more hits than anybody else who ever played the game. Simple as that.
It's why I barely blinked when Letterman admitted to nailing an intern or two, while I was first in line to harangue Jay Leno for doing nothing
worse than following his boss' orders to move to 11:30. One's really fricking funny, the other is not. Simple as that.
It's why I'm gonna chalk up "drunk at a gas station" as a pretty bullshit thing to get arrested for (then again, I have some
long-standing issues with the entire class of Victimless "Crimes"), and continue to be happy that Jericho's pretty much the best thing on
wrestling TV 4 weeks out of every 5. Simple as that.
And yes: it's why Randy Orton gets no sympathy from me. Be an asshole AND be not-very-good at your job? I will spend years coming up with new
and exciting ways to verbally savage you and document your poorness for the masses. Nobody that flamboyantly mediocre deserves to get away with being
such a dicklicker in his spare time. Simple as that.
For fuck's sake, Orton has been suspended more times than he's had genuinely memorable DVD-worthy/re-watchable matches in his entire
career. I can think of no better illustration of how the Ability-Decency Vector works, and why Orton is one of the universe's most-deserving
targets for the loathing and disgust of all right-thinking persons.
Everybody should make an effort to be good at either a craft or as a human being. Some people -- like that one Oakland A's player who just had a
break-out season but opted to leave millions of dollars on the table to become a Catholic Priest, instead -- actually manage to do both. Randy has
opted to do neither. Way to be, Spanky.
Entertainment Value = Amnesty.
And I say that with no irony or sarcasm. Maybe with just a bit of jaded cynicism and selfishness, though. Oh well...
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quote:
Originally posted by jmble
WWE wrestlers Christopher "Jericho" Irvine, 39, of Odessa, Fla., and Gregory "Hurricane" Helms, 35, of Smithfield, N.C., were booked into
the Kenton County jail on charges of public alcohol intoxication about 5:45 a.m. Wednesday, jail officials said Thursday.
Holy Shit! Burchill was right! The Hurricane and Gregory Helms are the same person!
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Wasn't Helms drinking and twittering with someone from TNA not long ago. Is he even working anymore?
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Clearly, Hurricane is a bad influence.
First? Daniels gets busted for DUI after partying with Helms.
Now? Jericho gets busted after partying with Helms.
I mean, fuck that guy - it's all his fault...
eta: Ironically enough, Hurricane is wwe.com's "Superstar of the Day."
[Edited on 1/28/10 by Thom]
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I'm just trying to imagine what it would be like going into your local gas station one morning all bleary-eyed to pick up your morning coffee
and all of a sudden you see Jericho and Helms opening up packages of Twinkies and throwing them at each other or ripping open bags of pork rinds or
whatever it was they were doing that got them into trouble.
That would pretty much be the definition of the word "mindfuck."
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What else is there to do in Kentucky?
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Do they still do chicken?
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TMZ has some details.
Apparently Hurricane up and belted a guy and a woman that he and Jericho were sharing a cab with. Then he and Jericho started going at it with each
other, which on the surface would indicate that Jericho probably got in the middle of them and told Hurricane to quit the bullshit. No police charges
but it's most likely celebrity lawsuit time in Kentucky. Ka-ching!
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LuckyLopez
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quote:
Originally posted by atothej
It has nothing to do with workrate, it has to do with perceived character. If Funaki was accused of some dickish behavior, I would probably wait to
hear the facts come out; not because of his workrate history, but because of his character history.
I have no doubt that you, a reasonable and intelligent dude, would withhold judgment on a mystery case like Funaki if the info wasn't in. And
its of course personally understandable that Orton's reputation makes individual stories stand out and take a natural spin. But then again when
we're talking about Jericho aren't we talking about the guy who got in a backstage fight with Goldberg, got into an altercation with a
fan, and said none of us should judge Jeff Hardy for being arrested for possession of a ton of drugs? So Jericho's rep isn't as squeaky
clean as its presented as. But it IS presented as that.
And I think that's what Rick is saying in those first few paragraphs. As limited as our idea of who these guys is its also almost entirely
shaped by guys like Rick, Meltzer, and Alvarez and what stories they choose to share with us. If Meltzer tells us that someone is selfish then
that's what we've got. If they want to, they can hold back stories they deem irrelevant or even stories that make guys they like look
bad. And it works the other way as we can hear about how Randy Orton smokes in the back or hits on a lot of women, stuff that probably holds true
about any number of wrestlers who don't already have the bad rep Orton has so there's less momentum going for the bad stories.
But lets be fair, performance and skill has SOMETHING to do with that. Maybe not with you, but certainly with some like Rick. And I wouldn't
even blame you since its pretty basic human nature to defend someone who you enjoy or to give him more leeway because he's "earned it" by
entertaining you. Someone who doesn't entertain you is pretty easy to discard because you're only improving the product for yourself.
Jericho getting a Wellness slap would just be bad for his fans.
So, sure, there's no real evidence to condemn Jericho and Helms but there's no real good reason to distance them from blame either.
Presuming innocence because of past behavior or reputation is as much bias as presuming guilt because he's an asshole. And its a pretty
pointless game when we know so incredibly little about these guys.
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Originally posted by atothej
Damn, man, when did FistHiccups start writing your posts?
Fucking ouch, dude!
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Jericho gets the benefit of the doubt because he generally hasn't had a history of being a dick. Orton does, and the stories have been
substantiated. Given Jericho's recent incidents, perhaps that view of the two will change. Nevertheless, Orton doesn't get the same
benefit of the doubt because he has behaved like a total dick in the past.
I'm sure this goes without saying because I'm positive you already knew this, but the Orton comment was purely for the LOLs. As to your
point about Jericho getting the benefit of the doubt for not having the checkered record that Orton has, I ask you in all seriousness and no
smarkiness: how many times are we going to have to hear about Jericho acting like this before we finally start saying "well, maybe he is a
petulant asshole too?". As Sean pointed out at the beginning of this thread, this is hardly the first time we've heard of an incident involving
Jericho in the last few years.
Now granted, based on what TMZ is offering up it sounds like maybe this time around Jericho was being the voice of reason and was just in the wrong
place with the wrong guy at the wrong time, in which case I'll eat some crow and admit that my sarcasm-dipped post was premature and maybe an
overreaction, but I still stand by my point (and I think Lucky's point, though I don't want to put words in his mouth) that most of us are
far too quick to make excuses for the poor decisions made by the guys we like, even when evidence starts building that maybe these guys are regular
joes like us with tempers and prejudices and real-life problems and not saints who belong on the pedastals we tend to put them upon.
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Pure objectivity and logic sucks anyway. If I wanted to be 100% neutral on anything I'd re-locate my silly ass to Vulcan.
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