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posted on 2-2-2010 at 05:30 AM |
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Who will Punk save next?
Punk's performance at the Rumble has cemented The Straight Edge Society as a major story force for months to come, so who's next to be
saved?
Edge mentioned Jericho's arrest tonight ... and I thought the WWE would completely ignore the incident in their storylines ... but since the
elephant in the room has been addressed ... perhaps Hurricane Helms could be next for the Straight Edge Society - use the arrest as an angle, and have
Punk save The Hurricane
On a side note - I'd love to see Punk/Gallows/Bald Chick to start performing "Interventions" on those that need saving - by Interventions I
mean of course a severe beat down until the addicted admit they need/want to be saved
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Chris Is Good517
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posted on 2-2-2010 at 05:33 AM |
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I have to admit that I don't hate that idea at all, but I think Jericho is kind of too big of a star to play lackey to Punk and I'll be
pretty surprised if Helms gets to keep his job, since I've seen the newz sites reporting that he was told not to bother coming to work for the
Rumble.
But your idea of "Interventions" isn't bad. Hell, I'd honestly be OK with it if this is how they decide to debut Bryan Danielson.
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posted on 2-2-2010 at 05:54 AM |
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Thats actually a great idea Punk should be able to be gold for thath "I don't want to do this...but its for your own good...Im doing this
because I love you...."
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posted on 2-2-2010 at 05:56 AM |
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Hopefully it's Katie Lea and they shave her down as well because adopting the Persis Khambatta look would be nothing but a step up for her right
now. That retarded Blackie Lawless look they stuck on her is really starting to bore the hell out of me.
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posted on 2-2-2010 at 07:10 AM |
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The Intervention idea is pretty much how Raven brought guys like Billy Kidman, Van Hammer, and Scotty Riggs into the Flock in WCW. It worked well
then and I think it could work well in Punk's unique spin on the cult gimmick. The only problem would be that unlike WCW there isn't this
huge roster of dudes to choose from, and a guy like Joey Matthews showing up from out of nowhere and being jumped would be contrived. Then again
Kidman, Van Hammer, and Riggs were little more than jobbers when Raven did it.
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ashleyschafferbmw
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posted on 2-2-2010 at 01:32 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
I have to admit that I don't hate that idea at all, but I think Jericho is kind of too big of a star to play lackey to Punk and I'll be
pretty surprised if Helms gets to keep his job, since I've seen the newz sites reporting that he was told not to bother coming to work for the
Rumble.
But your idea of "Interventions" isn't bad. Hell, I'd honestly be OK with it if this is how they decide to debut Bryan Danielson.
I agree that Jericho shouldn't be involved- I only brought his name up, because the arrest was mentioned on RAW last night.
I too was wondering how/when they would unveil Danielson - and I like the idea of debuting him as a Punk follower - (leading to eventual breakup then
a Punk v. Danielson at WM 2011 - might be getting too far ahead ... lol)
Any other lower to mid card guys need a push?
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quote: Any other lower to mid card guys need a push?
I'd say Evan Bourne but there's probably too many "getting high" puns in that scenario for the writers to be trusted with.
Joking aside. It'd probably be an idea to get someone in who could tag with Gallows so Punk can distance himself from the tag scene. If he can
actually wrestle, I have no idea, have Gallows "save" his old pal Jesse from that horrible gimmick.
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posted on 2-2-2010 at 02:08 PM |
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Yeah, I'll agree that Jesse as Slam Master J is going nowhere fast and he's as good a candidate as any.
I was thinking about this more last night and if Helms doesn't get released I like this idea for him more and more, but I'd sort of like
to see him get "saved" by Punk as Hurricane rather than Helms, where Punk puts him in a new, different costume and bills him as "the Straight Edge
Superhero" or something.
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posted on 2-2-2010 at 02:38 PM |
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Joey Mercury.
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blackdragon
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posted on 2-2-2010 at 04:25 PM |
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Is Akio/Yang still on the roster? I'd like for guys like him that are already there to become part of the group first. Like Lucky said about
the Flock, they were jobbers before they joined, not so much brand new guys and I think it works better from a "before I saved you, you lost every
match you were in" sort of thing. Then, maybe the new recruit wants to make it up to Punk for showing him the light and then you debut a Danielson
and let him win a couple of matches before the new recruit decides he would make a good fit for the group. I'm good with whatever they do for
now as long as they keep it interesting.
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posted on 2-2-2010 at 04:27 PM |
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What about the first 2 guys he saved? They looked like wrestlers. I can't possibly imagine that he pulled completely random people out of the
crowd.
Does anyone know if they were they indy guys?
As a side note, Serena's boobs are yummy.
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C.MontgomeryPunk
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posted on 2-2-2010 at 04:34 PM |
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James was "Manbeast" Ted McNailer from OVW.
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posted on 2-2-2010 at 04:39 PM |
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Mcinailer? I barely know her!
Bring back Kevin Thorne to form a classic big guy team with Luke Gallows.
And speaking of Manbeasts, Rhyno would be perfect if he was done with TNA. (Is he? He and Jesse Neal seem to have been written off TV)
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posted on 2-2-2010 at 05:11 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by C.MontgomeryPunk
Joey Mercury.
This.
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quote: Originally posted by C.MontgomeryPunk
Joey Mercury.
On top of all the "real life" reasons it fits, Joseph's another good biblical name, to boot.
I'm pretty much for any conversion that gives Luke a decent tag team partner so they can be The Society's more full-time duo (but maybe
if/when they get the straps, it's still "Freebird Rules" so Punk can get involved when need be). I liked Paul Burchill, but mostly because of
the Katie Lea Factor that's no been rendered moot by Serena, I guess... the Straight Edge Reunion of Jesse and Festus works fine for me, too.
But the one thing Mercury would have going for him is that the Writer Monkeys could pull a little change-up on us heading into WM26... I'm not
all that keen on Punk/Rey Hair vs. Mask (because of the foregone conclusion-y-ness of it). But Punk vs. Johnny Morrison Hair vs. Hair, with a subtext
being that Morrison doesn't want his buddy falling for a cult leader and Mercury thinks Morrison hung him out to dry and drove him to drugs,
would be potentially outstanding.
Either guy could conceivably win. And if you ask me, if the prevailing theory that Morrison is in a booking rut because WWE's using him to
quickly "make" McIntyre before shoving him up to the next level is true, then nothing would be better than for him to get a goddamned haircut to
complete the make-over. Jobbing to Punk is certainly a step up from jobbing to Drew McIntyre, too, if it's gonna be your last act before being
made one of WWE's few "untouchables."
I know the whole point of the John Morrison name was because of the cosmetic similarities to Jim Morrison. But nobody really takes flakey arteesty
drama queen poetboys seriously (well, except for Jeff Hardy, apparently, who has the benefit of having not been dead for 40 years). So the best thing
that could happen in terms of John finally getting him some Masculine Gravitas would be to man up, drop the mincing hippie-dippie entrance/act, and
get a haircut that doesn't make the entire viewing audience think about ladyboys such as Fabio.
So yeah: I'll third Joseph Mercury, I guess...
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posted on 2-2-2010 at 05:50 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by OORick
On top of all the "real life" reasons it fits, Joseph's another good biblical name, to boot.
I think they decided to drop the biblical names when they saved a guy named Trevor.
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I think the biblical names was never an actual thing, just a happy coincidence that smarks ran with, as they tend to do.
Mercury leading to a Morrison feud seems really contrived to me but its wrestling so what can I expect? And I do think that I'd respect
Morrison twice as much if he didn't have that silly wind blown hair entrance.
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Consider me gay for Morrison then because I love the wind blown entrance. True, I guess he could have a less fabulous entrance and I'd get used
to it eventually. I miss when he would say they didn't have x in the palace of wisdom. Or that he allows people to go to church because he
didn't want people praying in the palace of wisdom.
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I'd worry about after 3 years, WWE caring to remind people who he was, as he was never THAT big in the first place, especially with the absense
of Melina from the storyline. It would be the best way to bring him back and have anyone care though.
It's too bad this whole thing isn't happening during another time of year...because if there was an actual DX-S.E.S. feud going on like
there sort of is now, bringing in Marty Jannetty and giving him one last shot as a much bigger guy that got thrown off to the side in a bigger way,
has many drug issues, has been to jail, etc, and has been relevant when even not being around the ring much over the past 10 years, would have a much
bigger affect for Punk and his crew.
Edit: And I'm pretty sure all of Morrison's personality is in his hair. Because it isn't coming from anywhere else. I'd
doubt it goes anywhere.
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posted on 2-2-2010 at 09:22 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by LuckyLopez
I think the biblical names was never an actual thing, just a happy coincidence that smarks ran with, as they tend to do.
Mercury leading to a Morrison feud seems really contrived to me but its wrestling so what can I expect?
You can probably expect it not to happen. I was mostly just riffing off of something others had mentioned (twice) in the thread. Like a smark, as I
tend to do.
But working BIG TIME in your favor, Lucky, is the simple fact that when WWE put out a Johnny Morrison DVD, they complete erased all traces of Johnny
Nitro. Mercury and MNM are nowhere to be seen. Hell, the DVD doesn't even start with his ECW Title win (well into his singles phase, but still
as Nitro); it kicks in the week after, when he cuts the promo the gives birth to Morrison.
Methinks the company either doesn't want us to remember that part of his career, or doesn't trust us to remember it without somehow
thinking less of what Johnny Morrison has become since his Nitro days. Either way, a Mercury-conversion-driven storyline leading to a Morrison/Punk
feud seems highly improbable.
Doesn't mean I don't like it. Like it a lot better than Punk/Rey. But if I knows me my WWE, my opinion don't mean jack...
Johnny's hair lives to fight another day~!
My most favoritest of ideas for Punk's biggest conversion (and the ideal tag partner for Luke) is wholly dependent on Jeff Hardy handling his
legal business, and then not being a tard and wanting to make money working for a company that actually tests his Wellness periodically. Because
Matthew isn't just ANOTHER good biblical name (sorry: I'm attached to that idea), it's the awesomest way I could imagine to make
Punk/Jeff a pretty fantastic mega-feud for some point later in the year.
And that's one even WWE has shown it'd be willing to do in terms of acknowledging the past/real life....
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PS: although, MHardy with his ugly ratface may not be ideally suited for a bald dome. That might frighten women and children even moreso than Kane
ever did. Then again: if he's a heel, who cares?
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Yeah, I'm not saying that I would hate Mercury being the next convert. In a vacuum I like the idea too. It just doesn't feel natural to
me. Punk brings in a guy we haven't seen in 2 years to mess with a guy he hasn't been involved with for 6 months and who has nothing to
get from? Mercury just shows up out of nowhere conveniently in time for Punk to pick on him?
Morrison just feels like such a side story to me at this time that Punk targeting him feels off. While Rey is at least still Rey, idol of millions,
so I can see Punk going after him. Hardy would work since Punk has a ton of history there. Morrison is former IC Champion who has his fans but
nothing special and never really claimed to be a hero or role model. Sure, the two have warred together in the past but not to a really notable level
to constitute serious character history, especially since they tagged together a couple of times right after Morrison turned face and no one mentioned
squat about their history in ECW. Plus if Punk grabs the tag belts then how does it work?
Maybe the best I can imagine is Punk and Gallows winning the gold and boasting no one can beat them, Morrison laying down the challenge and
introducing his old tag partner, and then Mercury turning on Morrison mid-match. It just doesn't feel terribly natural to me, and I think
Wrestlemania stories should have a nice natural flow to them since you have months to set them up.
I had no idea the Morrison DVD was so limited. That makes it a definite "don't bother." Gracias.
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So no Tough Enough footage? Getting cut the first year, and finally making it the next? I guess maybe they'll save the complete retrospective
for later in his career, with the current DVD more of a hype piece to get over his current character.
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Rey might be a possibility for Punk's next target. He has nothing to do with any major ongoing storyline after Taker destroyed him at RR, and
Bats has moved on to the long overdue clash with Cena, so Rey is up for grabs as a candidate. I'm kind of a Rey-hater right now (I am just so
fucking sick of the "little guy, big opponent, huge odds" storylines that Rey's constantly being put in) so it'd be good to me to see
Punk having some fun making Rey look like an idiot for a while.
If Edge is going to half-ass it for medical reasons so he stays safe until Mania, it leaves Jericho with nothing much to do, as they won't want
to risk any further damage to Edge in a feud that would just have to end before Mania anyway with another Jericho loss. At that stage I think that
means an upcoming Jericho work with Morrison might be more likely than Morrison interacting/feuding with Punk. They're going to make Jericho
really stale if they keep making him the loser at the end of feuds, so it would at least give him back some of his needlessly wasted gravitas by
letting a solid back-and-forther with Morrison build his reputation back up to where someone who gets paid that kind of main-eventer money should be.
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posted on 2-3-2010 at 07:43 PM |
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I appreciate he's not on their books at the moment, but how about Nick Dinsmore?
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theflammablemanimal
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posted on 2-3-2010 at 09:30 PM |
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I think 1 "drugs made me retarded" gimmick is enough.
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