theflammablemanimal
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| posted on 2-25-2010 at 03:09 PM |
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I wonder if Shane would turn it down just to avoid seeing a video package of Dean Douglas.
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promoter2003
The Rowdy One
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| posted on 2-25-2010 at 04:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nOOb
Well, here's a more timeframe-friendly question: let's say Sting leaves TNA in the next year or two. When he leaves TNA, does WWE make
him show up on WWE TV before they would induct him in the HOF, or would they wait until they announced his induction to bring him on? Or would they
just induct him with no TV appearance required?
Rumor has it that Sting was going to be inducted last year I think until someone informed Vince he was still active in TNA LOL
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nOOb
The Rowdy One
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| posted on 2-25-2010 at 10:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by denverpunk
Hey, if Koko B. Ware can get in, anyone can get in. I'd say Shane's legacy is a hell of a lot higher than his, despite his short stint in
WWE.
Not for nothing, but Koko B. Ware was popular for a long span of time back in the 80's family friendly days of the WWF. His going into the Hall
was completely justified, because fans knew who he was, he sold merchandise, and kids always did the "bird wing" motion when he came to the ring.
He's in for the same reason I could see them inducting the Bushwhackers and not get pissed. Of course, if the Bushwhackers get in before the
Road Warriors or Demolition or even the Steiner Brothers, I'd be pissed, but all the same I could see them going in.
Hell, I guess there's another team I could see going in soon, and maybe even this year since:
1) Scott Steiner isn't in TNA anymore
2) Scott Steiner has been very vocal about WWE programming and his unwillingness to do the humiliating stuff
3) The Steiners were actually in the WWF for a while and did enough with them to justify being inducted.
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Biff_Manly
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| posted on 2-25-2010 at 10:57 PM |
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I don't see anything wrong with a smaller hall of fame class if people are being dicks about going in. I would rather have three worthwhile
people inducted than ten people that don't make sense.
Of course most hall of fames are bullshit popularity contests anyway. The WWE one is no more stupid then the voting done by other sports groups.
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denverpunk
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| posted on 2-25-2010 at 11:02 PM |
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All true points about Koko, and I know he had a successful career outside of WWE, too. That said, he was a jobber in WWE who never held a title or
seemed to be in a major program, so it wouldn't shock me if wrestlers like Douglas or Dreamer did eventually get in based on their more
influential achievements in ECW.
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nOOb
The Rowdy One
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| posted on 2-25-2010 at 11:31 PM |
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Tommy Dreamer, yeah, I could see him going in, and I could see WWE trying to make it seem like he was going in for all his ECW stuff, but really, the
reason he would go in would be kinda the same reason Koko or Greg Valentine went in: Dreamer was a stand-up guy with the WWE who was always helping
bring guys along and did pretty much everything that was asked of him at any given time. Say what you will about WWE, but they reward those "no
questions asked" kind of guys. Now, if Dreamer winds up being a visible part of TNA, then maybe he'll wind up waiting a while, but ultimately
I think Dreamer will get in.
Shane Douglas, on the other hand? When he was a part of the WWF, he did nothing of note and pissed some guys off. When he was in ECW, yeah, he was
pretty big, but nothing people outside the internet will remember. Same with WCW. When the WWF bought out WCW, they weren't interested in him,
and when Malenko, Saturn, and Guerrero left WCW and somehow managed to bring their title with them, the WWF didn't want him then either. And he
was just holding a decently sized role on TNA. None of those things help his cause, so I wouldn't expect to see him in the WWE HOF.
Of course, if WWE does have a theme this year of guys Vince screwed over over the years, then maybe Shane Douglas shows up as an induction. But I
really doubt it.
Everything about this girl is awesome. She's hot, she got kicked out of school for sucking too many dicks, she takes it in the ass and her body
gives itself abortions. -Punker on Lilly Allen's Miscarriage
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wings76fan
Creepy Little Bastard
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| posted on 2-28-2010 at 05:22 AM |
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If after a couple of years they decided to pay tribute to ECW, I could see that being the year they inducted Dreamer, Heyman, Douglas, Sunny, Joey
Styles and maybe RVD. (then again, you'd have to include Raven and The Dudleys ... but that whole TNA thing might get in the way).
They'd also probably want Lawler to interrupt the ceremony and ask why Vince is giving precious Hall of Fame spots to this group (I'll
never understand).
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LuckyLopez
Reeks of WCW 
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| posted on 2-28-2010 at 07:15 PM |
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The problem with WWE's Hall of Fame in terms of level of talent is that there's (a) its a yearly event they want a "main eventer" or 2
for and then round out the "card" with a bunch of "midcarders" and "undercarders", and (b) unlike sports there's no natural "X years
after retirement" rule you can implement. WWE runs the Hall of Fame out there every year and wants draws every year. So a Hall of Fame like
Cooperstown would in the first year induct EVERYONE eligible who should fit, within their own rules. The absolute best of the best would be in the
first few classes like Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, and Honus Wagner. Similarly the first class of wrestlers in '94 "should" have been guys like
Gorgeous George, Buddy Landell, Bruno Sammartino, and Lou Thesz. But because its a "WWE" Hall of Fame, because there are lots of political issues,
and because WWE wanted to make sure they had a big cast every year.
The way the MLB Hall of Fame works is that every year you look at everyone who became eligible in the last year and everyone one from the past ballot.
There are no lingering legends because they all got in pretty handily over the years. So in 2010 if there's no one the committee deems
eligible then they don't induct anyone. And if the 2010 class is headlined by pretty lackluster names like Alomar, McGriff, Dawson, and
Blyleven then so be it. Cooperstown doesn't retain big legends to draw a crowd, WWE does. Because its a marketing strategy.
Sting will go in as long as he wants to. He'll have to sign a deal with WWE that leaves them satisfied that he's not going to go run to
TNA, and I'm sure they counted on having Flair there for him. But if Sting wants to and doesn't mind showing up in WWE then he'll
get in. If he's willing to come in a do a dream story with someone like Taker? Even better. WWE wouldn't ignore money.
Dreamer could get in on one of the "undercard" Koko B Ware spots. Of course he has no real right being in the Hall of Fame over dozens and dozens
of legends. There's probably 100 more deserving people than him. But if he's in good standing with WWE and if they feel like boosting
some ECW DVD sales then he could get in. Heyman SHOULD go in by all rights. Douglas could maybe have a shot too if he didn't have so much
working against him in terms of his relationship and time with WWE.
Scott Steiner is one of those who should be in with his brother but Scott talks a lot of shit and specifically talks a lot of shit about HHH and HBK.
My guess is Scott won't get in until he's crippled or dead and can no longer throw a fit. Unless its all an elaborate work that Steiner
has pulled off wonderfully they won't give him a live microphone.
The TNA guys... who knows? They won't get in while TNA is alive unless its someone who jumps to WWE and has a whole equal or better career
there. But will AJ Styles ever get in primarily on his TNA work? If TNA is dead by that time and WWE owns the footage, sure, if they want to. But
as long as TNA is active or the "enemy" in any regard WWE won't validate them in such an extreme way. And really shouldn't from a
business sense.
Its just, you know, that's what makes the Hall of Fame "illegitimate" and would naturally lead someone to support a 3rd party Hall of Fame
because WWE's is more based on whose DVDs they want to sell, who will sell tickets, who is in bed with them, and who they don't want to
give time to than who "deserves" to get in.
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nOOb
The Rowdy One
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| posted on 2-28-2010 at 07:19 PM |
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Out of all the ECW guys, the only ones I'd see going in would be Heyman, Dreamer, and possibly RVD and the Dudleys (cause let's face it:
the Dudleys will probably wind up back in WWE in one or two years to end their career). Heyman had a long run as Paul E. Dangerously and had a good
business relation with the WWF when ECW was around, so they'd give him the spot strictly out of loyalty, kinda like Dreamer. Dreamer I already
outlined. RVD was insanely popular not just in ECW but the WWE as well, and he has yet to appear in TNA, so that might bode well for him. And the
Dudleys? Even knocking out the TNA tag titles from their history, they have a lot of title runs. Depending on where they retire, they could go into
the Hall.
Douglas I'm iffy about as mentioned. Raven? His big work was in ECW. His second biggest log of work was in WCW. His WWF/E stints have paled
compared to what they've done with him even in TNA. The one thing he has over Douglas is I don't think he's pissed off nearly as
big of names as Douglas did.
And Sunny? Her WWF work alone should get her in: she didn't wrestler, per say, but she set the standard as a sexual icon in modern wrestling,
so she should be set for a spot.
Everything about this girl is awesome. She's hot, she got kicked out of school for sucking too many dicks, she takes it in the ass and her body
gives itself abortions. -Punker on Lilly Allen's Miscarriage
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