LuckyLopez
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OOfficial Ratings/Discussion Thread for: TNA Impact (April 19, 2010)
OO Nation: All discussion pertaining to Impact (airing April 19, 2010) should be done in this thread. It will remain pinned at the top of the
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Tonight on Impact: We're coming off a mixed review Lockdown but with a lot of fallout to deal with. From a Monday Night War perspective
Impact will be live but dealing with a weird RAW situation, as TNA might have lost access to its X Division Champion due to the volcano in Europe but
WWE lost most of its RAW roster for the time being. So Impact's going to have to deal with a naturally curious situation over on RAW.
But Impact is going to get slaughtered and the "War" is pretty meaningless anyway, so whatever. Lets focus on Impact. Last night Team Hogan stood
triumphant over Team Flair including seeing Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff on the same page for the first time in months. Will there be any revenge on
the minds of Flair and his crew or is this situation officially settled and the awesomeness of Team Flair no more? Flair's big gun AJ Styles
did retain his World Championship over D'Angelo Dinero, albeit it by some nefarious means. TNA is teasing that a former World Champion will
"step up" to challenge AJ for the title but is worded in a way which could mean a title match tonight or merely a match being scheduled or #1
contender match.
Kurt Angle ended his long feud with Mr Anderson last night and then announced that he'd be taking some time off, but coming off the brutal and
critically approved match Mr. Anderson has some momentum. The Dudleyz racked up another historic win as they knocked off The Outsiders when Syxx-Pac
no showed the event, but word is Syxx's absence was expected and the Band will be there tonight in full form. Kazarian is the new X Division
champion and sooner or later the stripped Douglas Williams will have a problem with that, but that won't be tonight since Williams is still
stranded in Europe. And Madison Rayne is the new Knockout Champion, making her the Miz of women's wrestling as she's also co holder of
the Knockout Tag Titles.
Which segue ways into our only announced match of the night as the Beautiful People are set to defend the belts against Daffney and a partner of her
choosing. Since the BP are rocking the Freebird rule Madison might sit this out so every lady has a belt, and with Tara turning heel last night she
seems to be a natural partner for the deranged Daffney. But that's all we have scheduled for tonight so the rest will either surface in the
next few hours or be a surprise.
Remember, kids. 8 PM. No ReAction this week but if you're really hard up for some extra TNA Hulk Hogan has a new show on Sirius at 7 PM on
Howard 101.
And as always Rick will be doing his show-to-show preview at OO proper and you should go and check that out at
http://www.oowrestling.com/columns/oo/20100419.shtml. If its not up when you click check back later and it will be.
The flOOr is yours, OO Nation. Let your voice be heard and your thoughts on Brand Supremacy be known. Don't wait till after 10pm to post,
either. Pre-show previewing and prognosticating is certainly welcome. So discuss, debate, and rate!
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quote: Originally posted by LuckyLopez
Flair's big gun AJ Styles did retain his World Championship over D'Angelo Dinero, albeit it by some nefarious means. TNA is teasing that
a former World Champion will "step up" to challenge AJ for the title but is worded in a way which could mean a title match tonight or merely a match
being scheduled or #1 contender match.
I'm pretty sure there's no big-name free agents left that are former World Champs. But RVD and Jeff Hardy are both former champs, and
either one of those guys versus AJ should be good. Then again, so is Abyss. And I have tired of him completely, and I rarely tire of anyone.
[Edited on 4-19-2010 by nOOb]
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Bischoff says there is going to be a special surprise whatever that means.
I'm with nOOb on the challenger. I hope it's RVD or Hardy, but it'll be Abyss or Rhino or something stupid. Maybe Hogan feels
it's time for him to become the TNA Champion.
What did you think of the ppv Lucky? You didn't say anything on the thread
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I just did over in the PPV thread.
Yeah, despite Bischoff promising a surprise I'm not expecting any surprise with that former champion. RVD, Hardy, Abyss, Rhino, Jarrett, Sting,
Joe, Nash, and Angle (even if he's supposed to be on vacation). Even Hogan and Flair. There's so many options that part of me suspects
we might start qualifying matches for King of The Mountain. You know what would be a GREAT idea? Having Bischoff say that even though there are 4
open slots for King of the Mountain only 1 of them will filled by a former champ and then he sticks all those guys into one match. Then the likes of
Anderson, Wolfe, Pope, Morgan, Hernandez, and Daniels if he's still employed can compete as Bischoff promises new opportunities.
But Slammiversary is 2 months away so they still need a challenger for this next PPV, so maybe not. The rumor of Hardy vs RVD tonight is being
mentioned around the web although its not being credited to anything. But I wouldn't object in the slightest bit to RVD vs AJ at the next
PPV.
EDIT: I'm sure I'll be expecting this every day until he shows back up, but I'll guess the surprise is Joe related with Tommy
Dreamer's no-compete running out sometime last week and Heyman rumors popping up last week. Not that I'm predicting Heyman and Dreamer,
just that I'm maybe anticipating something Joe/ECW related.
[Edited on 4-19-2010 by LuckyLopez]
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TNA just confirmed it was RVD on their "between the preceding show's last commercial break" teaser.
Everything about this girl is awesome. She's hot, she got kicked out of school for sucking too many dicks, she takes it in the ass and her body
gives itself abortions. -Punker on Lilly Allen's Miscarriage
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ROB VAN DAM!!!!!
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Wow, I dunno if TNA smelled blood when the Raw roster got stuck in Europe or if they had that show planned, but wow. The segments were all solidly
entertaining, and with the exception of the Abyss bits and poor production/timing on commercial breaks, this was easily one of TNA's better
efforts.
Everything about this girl is awesome. She's hot, she got kicked out of school for sucking too many dicks, she takes it in the ass and her body
gives itself abortions. -Punker on Lilly Allen's Miscarriage
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I liked tonight's Impact.
Good opening segment that nicely set up the night' proceedings. Along with a couple of others, those are the guys that TNA should be focusing on
in the world title scene (well, I guess Jeff is a little shaky given his current unknown legal situation).
Knockouts match wasn't great, but wasn't horrible either. Pretty standard I guess. I'm surprised more wasn't made of Madison
being the Knockouts champion, other than just accompanying Velvet and Lacey to the ring. And I guess Daffney is a face now?
I thought the segment setting up the rematch between Team Flair and Team Hogan was good, but I found two things funny: one, that the "rematch"
consisted of two guys who weren't actually on Team Hogan the night before and two, Rob Terry (who appears to have finished morphing into Batista
2.0 with the new trunks) fucking up the press slam on Wolfe and then falling over after kicking Sting. Man, he sucks.
Good match between RVD and Jeff. Maybe Jeff will get that victory over RVD one day.
The Team Flair/Team Hogan match was good and Joe coming out was a nice surprise (as I was racking my brain about who the fourth guy was going to be
and didn't even consider Joe). Glad to see him come in, kick ass, and leave. While I think TNA has fucked his character up pretty bad compared
to what he used to be, this looks like a step in the right direction.
Really solid main event, though maybe not quite the "dream match" it would appear on paper (though in their defense, the match didn't get a
ton of time, so I'd like to see them cut lose in a 30 minute match on PPV). My only problem is that for AJ having the title for seven months, I
thought the ending of the match was kind of anti-climatic. It reminded me of when JBL held the title for eight months and then just kind of lost out
of nowhere in unspectacular fashion in his match with Cena at WreslteMania 21. As an AJ mark I'm kind of sad to see his reign come to an end
like that, but I won't really complain about RVD being champion either. Barring him dropping it back to AJ in the near future, RVD/Joe and
RVD/Angle could be good stuff down the line.
Anyhow, good show tonight and the fact that guys like The Band weren't on TV and the usual Hogan/Bischoff stuff was kept to a decent minimum
didn't hurt. 3.6.
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The first hour was kinda empty, but god damn did the second hour bring it. I don't like Rob Terry a ton, but if he's going to be used like
the big bully he is, I guess it's cool. RVD v. Hardy was really good. It wasn't 2 this is awesome chants good, but it was very good.
RVD winning the title was a stunner. When AJ was down, I thought someone else would run out. I was pretty pumped when he got the 3. His song is
catchy, and since they've played it roughly 43 million times the past 2 nights, it's stuck in my head. I'm happy he's the
champ. I wish that match got a little more time.
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quote: Originally posted by the goon And I guess Daffney is a face now?
She could be, I dunno. But this probably goes back to the old standard. This isn't WWE. Heels can fight heels and heels can team with faces.
If its a long term thing or if there's a story involved it might mean something. If its a one time thing with as straight forward and logical
an answer as "they want to win a title" then that might be it.
I thought that was one of the strongest shows I've seen from either company in quite some time. There was a simple and focused feel to it.
There were TWO stories happening tonight. Team Hogan vs Team Flair and AJ/RVD/Hardy. Given how many people are involved with the Hogan/Flair story
that meant they didn't have to leave off too many people and they managed to effectively work Terry and Joe into it. Morgan and Moore got a
backstage segment which managed to advance both the X and Tag title situations and there was a Knockouts match. Otherwise there was no Russo-esque
ADD or an effort to squeeze everything in. I've gone on record as seeing the value in that booking and doing it this way meant leaving active
parts of the roster like X Champion Kaz, Anderson, Pope, MCMG, Angelina Love, Tara, Team 3D, and even The Band off the show entirely it did result in
a very focused and entertaining story for one night.
The Knockouts match WAS really bad, I think. I'm all for giving each BP a title as its a cool image and a nice piece of dominance... but if the
result is a Lacey/Velvet tag team that's not good. Velvet's fine and made well for tag work but Lacey is bad and hasn't worked much
at all in TNA to get any real chemistry or timing down. That was just a messy match where Velvet and Madison had found some good chemistry the last
few months. But it was short enough not to wear out its welcome and I'm fine with the BP getting a simple establishing win.
The Lethal Lockdown match was a little weird. I'm not one who is really against PPV rematches, especially when they're not really
rematches. That match obviously served some purposes. It got Rob Terry involved and elevated him a bit and brought Joe back in a good way. It might
have served to establish "Team Flair" as a stable, but I dunno. We'll see next week, I guess.
Joe was Joe. The old Joe. Old tights, slimmed down a bit, old towel, old attitude. That's all very good. If they can stick with that then
its good. Maybe someone in TNA finally said "Remember when Joe was super over? Lets just have him be THAT guy" rather than constantly trying to
fix what wasn't broken.
I don't know what to think about Rob Terry. He sucks a lot of the time. Sometimes he shows signs of competency. He's probably not worth
the time and if he was doing more than squashing midcarders with a relatively valueless belt and serving as one part of an 8 man tag I'd
probably mind him. There are guys worth this push more than him, for sure, and in another world it seems like the push designed for Morgan or
Hernandez. But he still hasn't done enough to either annoy me or strike me as irredeemable. But I'm almost certainly being generous with
him.
Moore's a punk and I'd really like to know how he keeps getting title shots but Morgan is gonna kick his head off next week.
And Bischoff remembered the rankings! And even kind of apologized for not mentioning them for weeks!
And I pretty much enjoyed everything involving the World Title. As we bitch about WWE reducing its World Titles to borderline midcard belts and it
seems to be the norm for world champs to be unover midcarders taking losses I think the Hogan/Bischoff Era has put a real emphasis on the World Title.
It was a bit bittersweet to see AJ's 7 month title run end but I have no problem with RVD winning. The celebration ceremony was forced and
felt a big phony, but I was effectively convinced in chat that it was trying to emphasize the point that winning the World Title is a big deal.
RVD/Hardy and RVD/AJ were both really good matches and RVD would easily be my MVP of the week after wrestling 4 matches in 2 nights, 3 of them good
singles matches. RVD/AJ obviously could have been more but I have to assume we're getting a rematch at Sacrifice and that's hopefully
where that dream match really happens.
My only big complaint on the night was Pope's absence. Seems like you could have worked him into Team Hogan and given JJ the night off but
either way I didn't love his absence. Then again the new X champ was missing and the clearly involved in stories Kennedy and Band were missing
so I'm not reading too much into it. Pope did take a pen to the eye less than 24 hours before Impact so maybe he was in the hospital. Still,
his absence was notable and that's a shame when so much of his momentum had disappeared over the last 2 months.
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2 RVD matches and he's got the title. I hope TMZ is following him around to film his 420 celebrations.
-5.0
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I am totally happy and fine with RVD winning the title, but I didn't like at all how they handled the post match celebration. It would've
bothered me a lot less if he got the belt right away, and then all that other stuff happening - as it were, Hogan and Dixie carried the thing to him,
and Hogan seemed to have it in his hands longer than RVD did at the end of the show. It felt like "He's our new golden boy now," and unless
that's the angle, RVD shouldn't be getting the golden boy treatment. Hell, I can even buy them having the confetti (in his tight colors,
no less), just in case something big happened... but the match was setup as a bit of a surprise, and they didn't treat that like a surprise win
at all.
Raw's trainwreck potential had me mostly watching it instead of TNA, so I can't rate the show tonight.
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I didn't get the post match celebration thing for RVD either. I kept expecting Mike Tenay to say "His amazing two hour odyssey has finally led
him to the TNA World Heavyweight Championship!".
Even though the entire show felt like TNA creative condensed a long term RVD push into two matches and a promo, it was a pretty good show.
AJ's promo to open the show reminded me an awful lot of an old school, heel HBK and that's a good thing.
Rob Terry is awful and not at all ready for anything they have planned for him.
Joe coming back and destroying Team Flair was a nice surprise. That's exactly the way I like seeing Joe presented and it was nice to see him
treated as a very destructive force.
All in all, this show is an easy 4.0 but I think it is going to seriously hinder their booking plans going into Sacrifice.
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quote: Originally posted by LuckyLopez
Joe was Joe. The old Joe. Old tights, slimmed down a bit, old towel, old attitude. That's all very good. If they can stick with that then
its good. Maybe someone in TNA finally said "Remember when Joe was super over? Lets just have him be THAT guy" rather than constantly trying to
fix what wasn't broken.
Exactly, and you beat me to almost everything else I was going to say.
I also agree with JDC that the celebration was little over-the-top (though not "necessarily" planned since the confetti colors were Hogan colors). I
know most of those guys were RVD's friends but Team Hogan and Dixie were overkill (especially since Dixie couldn't get in the ring). That
just seemed like the type of celebration you should only in 3 situations: Dethroning a dominant heel champ (like HHH), beating the head of a dominant
stable (like the MEM, NWO, Alliance) or someone finally overcoming everything and reaching the top of the mountain. Even though AJ's reign was 7
months, it was kind of a quiet 7 months. I don't think most people realize just how long his title reign is, partly because people might think
back to his heel turn as the beginning of his reign (and that was only 4 months ago or so).
I did like how they acknowledged Hardy/RVD's history. As horrible as it might turn out, it made me wish there was some no overarching, yet
hands-off, wrestling company that would allow everyone to have access to all the librarys, just so we could have seen clips of their hardcore
matches
And Wicked, don't forget the 2 cage matches RVD had the night before. I can't recall such a run since Benoit did 2 out of 3 falls with
Angle then Tag Team Turmoil on a Sunday PPV, beat the 2 Man Power Trip on Monday, and then had a TLC match on Thursday.
2 things I didn't like about the LL rematch: 1) I know the timed entrances was needed for the drama of Joe's entrance, but it means that
there was 14 minutes of no-drama since nothing could happen until he was in the ring. 2) I will always hate noDQ tag matches. It's okay for
Sting/Jarrett to beat each other with chairs (wait, why weren't they unconscious?) but no one is willing to get into the ring without tagging?
Stupid in this match and every other noDQ tag match. (Plus it seemed ridiculous that every one was able to tag in as soon as they entered)
And I do have to wonder if they planned this show or if they actually decided to try to go after RAW.
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All I've seen so far is about the last 10 minutes but I agree with the comment above that the whole celebration seemed a bit odd. For the
reasons mentioned above. It's not like he's been struggling to win the title for 5 years. I guess they were pushing it more in a sense
that "Yes, A.J. has finally been beaten!!" but still. It seemed a bit much. But either way, I was glad as hell to see RVD get the belt!
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TNA really likes the confetti drop for title wins. When AJ won the belt for this reign, there was confetti and the crowd and wrestlers stormed the
ring. When Christian won the title, the fans stormed the ring. I'm pretty certain when Joe won the title, there was confetti. TNA loves
themselves confetti championship celebrations
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WWE reject as champ= bush league.
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Don't forget the lower than WWE production values, constant timeslot changes, southern- vs. northern-style booking, giving away big matches for
free, and the lack of touring.
BUSH.
LEAGUE.
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Lets not forget who was governor of Florida when they started filming there.
BUSH LEAGUE
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I actually enjoyed TNA a lot this week. It seemed the right mix of old and new, and if they can continue that, then cool.
Rating: 4.0
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quote: Originally posted by cardscott5
TNA really likes the confetti drop for title wins. When AJ won the belt for this reign, there was confetti and the crowd and wrestlers stormed the
ring. When Christian won the title, the fans stormed the ring. I'm pretty certain when Joe won the title, there was confetti. TNA loves
themselves confetti championship celebrations
Those situations at least almost warranted it. AJ won his title by beating The Godfather of the MEM. Joe had been around for a while and I think had
several failed attempts at a title. I don't remember Christian's situation, but that was also his first title after years in the business
(and it also makes sense if he beat the hated Jarrett).
Of course, it could just be like you said that TNA loves confetti for Face Champions.
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AJ WAS the heel champ who had been retaining in all sorts of old school ways and screwing over guys like Pope, Abyss, and Angle. And was part of the
larger Team Flair that had been running over people with cars, setting them on fire, and generally running roughshod over TNA's faces. I took
it as one giant "Team Flair is dead" celebration from Lockdown to last night, but I agree it was forced. We, the audience, weren't all "DAMN
AJ! DAMN TEAM FLAIR!" so it didn't come naturally for us, even if I think that might have been what TNA was going for.
But as others tried to convince me, it also might be as simple as TNA trying to treat a World Title change as a huge deal because they happen
relatively rarely in TNA. Its the first title change of the Hogan/Bischoff era so I dunno. That's one we'll probably just have to wait
and see. But whatever the reason I agree that it just came off over the top for the context we had.
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The problem I have with the ending of the show is that they treated it like RVD made some sort of career defining moment.
That just doesn't work for someone like RVD because he's already won a world title. His career has been pretty well defined although the
way back to ECW in the mid 90's.
The same would apply to Jeff Hardy. The kind of celebration they performed would have been more appropriate for some one like Pope who
hasn't had that kind of history.
That would have been a career moment for him and even had all the back story as he's been chasing AJ and the belt for awhile now.
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quote: Originally posted by LuckyLopez
AJ WAS the heel champ who had been retaining in all sorts of old school ways and screwing over guys like Pope, Abyss, and Angle.
Yeah, but he was only heel for 4 months. His reign didn't have the HHH'esque feel to it. And even though he was part of Team Flair, he
always seemed kind of distanced from it. Not as much as say Sting from the rest of the MEM shenanigans, but still, AJ wasn't actually part of
the Team Flair and didn't take part in any of the serious stuff.
Plus, all this Team Flair stuff has only been going on for 3 weeks or so and they've only been serious/dangerous assholes for the last week or
2. They really didn't live up to the "Team Flair is going to tear TNA apart" rhetoric that Hulk and the announcers were going for.
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AJ's been pretty extensively involved with the Flair and Wolfe attacks on Hogan, Abyss, Pope, etc. Last week's show ended with Team Flair
kicking the ass of AJ's opponent, not "Team Hogan." So I don't really see how you argue he's been distanced from them when the
entire reason for Lethal Lockdown essentially started with him. And realistically Flair's assault on TNA goes back to March with him fucking
over Angle, them constantly attacking Pope, and all the Abyss ring stuff. The actual Lethal Lockdown "Team Flair" stuff was only a few weeks but it
was pretty well told for months including very logically working Beer Money's isolated heel assaults on JJ, RVD, and Hardy into the mix and
Sting's somewhat isolated heel assaults on Hogan and RVD. While they haven't been any kind of official stable its pretty accurate to say
that Ric Flair, AJ Styles, Beer Money, Desmond Wolfe, and Sting have been doing a lot of damage to Hogan, Abyss, RVD, Hardy, JJ, Pope, Lethal, etc the
last few months. And that the combined act of beating Team Flair in Lethal Lockdown (and again the next night) and then taking the belt off AJ was a
big deal for TNA's faces.
But again, I'm not actually disagreeing with you guys. I too think it was forced and awkward. I just disagree with what you see it as. I
think the story was there. It just wasn't as big a deal to us as it was to them.
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