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Subject: OOfficial Ratings/Discussion Thread for: RAW (June 14, 2010)
gobbledygooker
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posted on 6-15-2010 at 03:54 PM
quote:Originally posted by Bonestein
Now, I don't worry about things like why wrestlers are wearing their wrestling outfits.
If you can suspend disbelief to where it doesn't bother you that these guys are apparently walking around in public wearing the equivalent of
underwear and boots, more power to you.
I keep comparing it to Stone Cold years ago. When he was throwing Rock's belt off a bridge and crushing cars in a monster truck, he was dressed
like a regular dude. He wasn't running around doing that stuff in his little black wrestling shorts. That would've just been retarded.
Joeldacat
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posted on 6-15-2010 at 04:05 PM
I remember about a year ago, CM Punk said awhile back he would always appear in his wrestling outfits so that people would identify him, even for
promos.
It seems a little silly if you think too hard; but for right now, it's the right call. They'd be really unidentifiable thugs if they
weren't in their trunks. We're used to seeing them in their ring gear, so in a jumbled shot of all seven of them, we can still make them
out.
In a reference only Nintendo dorks will get: I also like the one dude who wears the bandana face mask, 'cause it reminds me of Baby Bowser mixed
in with a pack of Koopa Kids.
quote:Originally posted by Bonestein
Now, I don't worry about things like why wrestlers are wearing their wrestling outfits.
If you can suspend disbelief to where it doesn't bother you that these guys are apparently walking around in public wearing the equivalent of
underwear and boots, more power to you.
I keep comparing it to Stone Cold years ago. When he was throwing Rock's belt off a bridge and crushing cars in a monster truck, he was dressed
like a regular dude. He wasn't running around doing that stuff in his little black wrestling shorts. That would've just been retarded.
NXT should have been dressed in street clothes.
Barrett should have started RAW by coming out in ring gear to his *new* entrance music.
He could have started his monologue then called out the remaining NXTers from the crowd -- dressed in street clothes.
Security would have intervened and a brawl between NXT and WWE security and staff could have erupted.
Hart could then come out and fire them.
This angle died almost immediately for me last night -- without an explanation as to how and why these guys (other than Barrett) are allowed in the
building... I couldn't buy into the rest of storyline.
As some already have stated, I agree -- it will probably be McMahon revealed as the limo driver. I'm ok with that, it makes sense from a
plotline perspective. I just wish there were better ways to get over angles than without these "movie style" finishes.
The suspension of belief is tough, because every week we hear about NBA, NFL, etc athletes who arrested for DUI or beating a girlfriend or wife or
accused of rape. Surely the smashing of 4 or 5 costly cars would be dealt with quickly -- especially considering there is VIDEO FUCKING EVIDENCE and
5 million witnesses. Anyone trashing a car and parking lot like that would be locked up immediately by law enforcement.
quote:Originally posted by Joeldacat
I remember about a year ago, CM Punk said awhile back he would always appear in his wrestling outfits so that people would identify him, even for
promos.
I'm pretty sure he said McMahon told him to always be dressed in ring gear because no one would recognize him otherwise. In hindsight,
that's probably why Cody and Ted were always in gear when they were Orton's lackeys.
[Edited on 6-15-2010 by TheMakerSaidTaker]
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posted on 6-15-2010 at 04:27 PM
quote:Originally posted by TheMakerSaidTaker
This angle died almost immediately for me last night -- without an explanation as to how and why these guys (other than Barrett) are allowed in the
building...
They explained it. Barrett said that Bret demanded they all show up and apologize for their actions the previous week.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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posted on 6-15-2010 at 04:28 PM
For the first time ever I recorded Raw (went to Dish if you're keeping up with doctorb's saga of hating comcast and being in a valley that
blocks free signals) and didn't start watching until quarter to 10. So plus points for the NXT gang making me care enough to dvr it instead of
just watching what's on when I'm available like usual. I think I watched it all in 45 minutes, though. That's gotta be minus a lot
of points.
The four way was good, but should have been better.
Did Gail Kim even get in the ring? And do they only have those 4 divas? Well, besides the Bellas. Is that it?
Agreed with everyone else who says the united locker room really kills the angle. There had to be a decent way to get 4 or 5 of the nxt guys into a
decent stable, lose the dead weight, and keep the heels as heels. Maybe Lawler could have beat one in a match and the other 6 kick him out, then
Santino beats another so he's gone. Something. Anything besides "we want a private locker room - waaah!" "You're fired." Whole Raw
roster chases them out.
Sucks.
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posted on 6-15-2010 at 04:42 PM
But if Vince IS the guy behind it, THEY WILL all get contracts and their own dressing room. They are not the best or most deserving guys in the world
- far from it. But this could be the new nWo type angle that kick starts a new boom period.
Because HHH will be due back soon. Maybe he was driving the limo. He wants 'his' WWE back - the WWE where HE is king, and has an army of
loyal followers to help him with his dirty work. He's sick of Orton and Cena hogging the title. It's time to take his baby back!!
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posted on 6-15-2010 at 05:10 PM
For the most part I didn't mind the progression of the NXT storyline. The bottom line is that the RAW roster was had once again.
In regards to Sheamus coming out during the brawl, his backstage interview with Josh Matthews seemed to explain his reasoning for being there.
Protecting his interest in the Fatal 4-Way. If Cena is injured by the hands of NXT......no championship match. He lost no heat or credibility, as
far as I'm concerned.
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Stu
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posted on 6-15-2010 at 05:15 PM
quote:Originally posted by LuckyLopez
The limo implies to me that they've have a rich benefactor.
Or that they just beat up the driver to Ted Dibiase's limo and hijacked it.
I didn't think they handled the NXT situation too badly all things considered, but I'm disappointed as ever by the wwe's lack of any
sort of grey area to address the NXT guys' claims. What the WWE Pros did to the series 2 rookies last week backs up the "treated like animals"
thing to an extent, but WWE with stuff like this just paints one side as "right" and one side as "wrong".
A couple of things that made me laugh:
-Virgil being introduced before Ted when they came out for the tag team match
-When Bret came out after the Santino/Regal match and said "I'm not going to let history repeat itself", I thought for a second he was
comparing Santino beating Regal with cheating to the Montreal Screwjob.
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posted on 6-15-2010 at 05:30 PM
I agree with Stu when I heard Bret come out after the Santino match saying that he wasn't going to let history repeat itself. Kozlov, Regal,
and Santino walked up the ramp very slowly and they looked like children ready to be scolded by a teacher.
-The one thing that made me laugh in the beginning of the show was when Bret addressed the NXT guys saying something to the effect of "where
I'm from a 7 on 1 fight isn't right." How quickly Bret forgot that's similar to how he beat Vince at Wrestlemania.
-The second thing was the limo driver. While I'm sure they'll never reveal who it was, maybe it was Rikishi, but the camera did catch a
slight glimpse of the face. I thought it looked like Bryan Danielson wearing a hooded sweatshirt/jacket. The face was very similar, but granted, it
was a split second on screen. That's just what I saw.
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posted on 6-15-2010 at 05:59 PM
I realize its pointless. Those who believe this COULD be a work will believe it until there's no way they can't. But doesn't kinda
looking like Bryan Danielson mean being white?
quote:Originally posted by Gobshite
But this could be the new nWo type angle that kick starts a new boom period.
It COULD be. Anything COULD be. But is there a real reason to suggest that? The nWo involved some of the biggest names in wrestling and one of the
most unique events in wrestling history. The nWo involved parties jumping companies and confusing fans, playing up on a war we all wanted to see.
NXT came out of the gates hot but is there any real reason I should believe Skip Sheffield might one day in part be responsible for the great boom of
2010?
He smiled.
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posted on 6-15-2010 at 06:10 PM
quote:Originally posted by doctorb
Agreed with everyone else who says the united locker room really kills the angle. There had to be a decent way to get 4 or 5 of the nxt guys into a
decent stable, lose the dead weight, and keep the heels as heels.
The Universe already heard your request when Danielson got canned ;_;
lz4005
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posted on 6-15-2010 at 06:47 PM
quote:Originally posted by Wickedfrost
Two things that entertained me. The first time the nxt guys were being run out of the building they were all running past Mark Henry. How did he get
up front and why didn't he try to stop them?
I wondered about that too. In the replay you can see as soon as the NXT guys go into the crowd Mark starts running up the ramp. Plausible that
he'd try a different route to cut them off. Unbelievably retarded that he'd get there before most of them and still keep running (slowly)
in the same direction.
TomS
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posted on 6-15-2010 at 07:28 PM
The limo driver looked like he was wearing one of these:
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posted on 6-15-2010 at 09:38 PM
So over the weekend the entire internet exploded over some incident that involved epic fails and massive chokes.
No not that one�
Not that one either�
There you go. So it seems as if Daniel(son) has got the boot for making good television. That�s okay, maybe they can play into this like an episode of
the Simpsons ala Kamp Krusty. Wade Barrett can come out and show everyone that Daniel Bryan is still employed. As people cheer out comes a inebriated
Trevor Murdoch is maroon tights. Then some guy yells out �That�s not Daniel Bryan!� Followed by Murdoch�s response of, �No Bart, I am too Darrell
Brandon�BURRRRRRRRRP!� Followed by massive riots of �WE WANT DRAGON! WE WANT DRAGON!� with Murdoch eventually joining in �YEAH WE WANT WAGONS WE WANT
WAGONS!� Ahhh good times, oh well lets see what we get this week. Besides Im tired of watching Deadliest Warriors while waiting for more E3
coverage.
Ok, So now we kick off Raw with NXT. Wade Barrett comes out and says that management demand an apology from then more making kids cry and wearing
kryptonite knee pads. All 8 er 7 of them come out and basically give a good old fuck you to the audience. And because old people don�t like fowl
language, Bret Hart comes in to give em a talking to. Bret comes out and mumbles some weird syntax which I think was suppose to be English. Coming
from a guy that butchers it on the vestitubes that�s gotta be an insult. Anyway, Barrett says Daniel(son) is a pussy so we swept him under the rug
along with Benoit and the crazy guy from the Hart foundation that shot Austin. Bret takes offense to this. Otunga then wants kontrax for all of his
homies. And you better hurry because skipshefield looks like hes ready to rape someone and I don�t think Justin Roberts can cope. Anyway Grandpa
kicks them out of the WWF (is that an error or a loophole? You decide) for being useless with Daniel(son).
Now that silliness is upon us. We get a match that I thought was on the PPV card. Cool. Way to book there guys. We get Miz, Jo-Mo, Zack and Token. Now
Truth is in his hometown so you know what that means. Christ this whole week is full of scapegoats, yeah im looking at you Michael Hayes. In
retrospect this was still a very fun and entertaining match to watch. And I swear I thought Ryder was going to steal one with the way he was getting
treated throughout the whole match. End game came when Morrsion hit SP and Miz takes advantage. So R-Truth, the most over midcard in the WWE just lost
his belt already. Awesome. Come to think of it I think Miz is 332-0 against Jo-Mo but im too lazy to check.
Backstage Josh Matthews (minus a tie) bothers Orton for 3 minutes with dumb questions. Moving on. Raw decides to fill their quota of suck by having
the guest GM from Royal Pains. Bella twins nod their heads and we all go for a snack. So Main Event Mark turns around and sees the new Santino of RAW,
Ted DiBiase. MEM punks Teddy and Virg and challenges them to a fucking tag-match before having a spaz on camera. Big Show appears from fat-air and
laughs and carries him away as the Bella�s go 4 weeks without blowing the guest host. Darn. Its like Big Show is the genie from Alladin but with less
freedom, yikes.
Just so we don�t confuse anyone, we have a wrestling match on RAW. So we have Chris Jericho vs the 8 year old cashing in his make-a-wish, Evan Bourne.
What? Don�t believe me? He tags with Cena and now wrestles Y2J? You make the connections. In all seriousness, Im not sure if WWE was going in the
direction to push Evan or continue to bury Jericho. Meh, might as well kill two birds with one stone. Again though in all seriousness this was a good
match, that is if you could get past the horrible puns Cole and King throw at you. Christ, I rather listen to African horns for 90 minutes then this 5
year old humor. While typin this, I think we all did a double take when Evan kicked out of the code breaker. Chris gets pissy and attacks Bourne til
DQ. But then Bourne comes back and hits the prettiest move 2 years running to send the kids home happy�to the snackbar.
Up next is John Cena doing a bad Denzel Washington speech. He thanks Bret for not caving in to terrorism er �bunch of radicals� ( I nominated Tarver
for using moppy). There sure was a lot of interesting puns from �Firing people doesn�t solve the problem.� And �This is sacred ground, and now
everyone wants your head.� Which is weird since only CM Punk finds things holy and sacred.
Thanks Punk. Anyway, NXT comes out again and tries to make good television but John Cena throws a wild card by having a few jobbers from the RAW
locker room help him. Then the rest of the locker room come out and eventually clear the ring. Santino uses the cobra to chase them out of the
building only because Henry can waddle that fast. Seriously, he is the worst person to run someone out of anywhere.
Well lets even things out by having a Divas tag match. All four �athletes� compete in order to get ready for the initial piss break at the PPV. While
Cole and King talk about Maryse�s hotness. So much that Frenchy looks away while Alicia Fox tries to tag her in with her boot. Oops. Eve cleans up
(and I use that term loosely) with a very sloppy (see) neckbreaker for the 3.
Ugh. More crap. Big Show and MEM face DiBiase and In-door slave. Usual antics by Big Show which always puts a smile on your face. Poor Teddy�s chest.
Ted DiBiase lets the IWC have one by tagging in Virgil. And Show decides to play a game of hangman 1847 style before the initial lynching begins. Poor
Virgil. Chokeslam followed by a modified worm. Ugh. I guess this was Virgil�s swan song. God Bless Buddy, see you in FCW.
Looks like we have a very short match with Santino Regal and Zangief. Ill spare you, Santino got the tights and won. But even Bret doesn�t give a shit
as he comes out and says that all the superstars will be on the entrance ramp instead of making it a lumberjack match or something to you know, block
the barricade where they�ve been coming in from and not the entrance, whatever.
So we are suppose to enjoy the tag match between Viper, Cena, Mayo and Edge. Nothing wrong with the match per say. There were some fun spots and a lot
of the usual antics made by all four men. EEnd game came when Cena went for his 4 moves of doom but then the lights went out. I guess Taker woke up?
Nope, instead we see the NXT 7 attack Bret Hart while enjoying his Raisin Bran Cereal. Those Bastards! Bret pleads with them not to do anything
because a small spot will kill him. But they don�t listen and throw him in a limo an crash it a few times. After the brutality, Barrett wants a
contract by Sunday, but Bret is in too much pain to do anything, well except fix his hair mid-pain. Yikes.
What a strange RAW. For a throwaway show it was decent. There were some memorable matches and some fun conflict but it wasn�t that of last week, Which
is kind of a duh. But all in all Ill give it a 3.3 for all the fun pics and fodder. Oh well, back to soccer and E3. Peace
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posted on 6-15-2010 at 09:51 PM
quote:Originally posted by JB KING
"Skittles! Come back Skittles!"
You fucking rule, dude.
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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posted on 6-15-2010 at 09:57 PM
And if somebody makes that "Deadliest Warrior" mock-up their av, they'll be in the running for av of the year. Well done.
**Actually never mind on the av suggestion, it doesn't resize well.
[Edited on 6-15-2010 by C.MontgomeryPunk]
What's with the Karate Kid? Mr. Myagi tells Daniel-san to whack off, and now Jackie Chan is telling Jaden Smith to Jack it off...
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posted on 6-16-2010 at 12:00 AM
Speaking of The Worm, why don't they give Orton that move, and just rename it The Slither?
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posted on 6-16-2010 at 12:48 AM
wow... Lynching jokes.....that's state of the art, right there.
[DevSop] god your sex life scares me
[SeamusMcNasty] And that is why I hate the Miz. He's got potential, but he just doesn't live up to it. Unlike Randy Orton, who has no
potential and lives right up to that.
MHJ: "if it is kinky, depraved, erotic, or a fetish, you will find it"
theflammabledouchimal: By the way, I heard that house shows have Morrison and Mcintyre teaming up to take on the team of Baretta/Croft, with Jericho
as special ref.
JB KING
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posted on 6-16-2010 at 01:41 AM
If that's all you got out of it, I pity you.
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posted on 6-16-2010 at 01:53 AM
Well, she could have gotten the slaves, token, and all the other racist comments as well, but the lynching was probably the one that pushed her over
the line. Keep up the awesome work bro. Moron.
LuckyLopez
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posted on 6-16-2010 at 01:55 AM
In fairness, the constant offensive comments is only about 20% of what I take from JB's recaps. 50% is images I've already seen on other
websites.
He smiled.
firewoman
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posted on 6-16-2010 at 02:03 AM
Well, we're even then, because I pity a writer who has to resort to tired stereotypes in lieu of humor.
[DevSop] god your sex life scares me
[SeamusMcNasty] And that is why I hate the Miz. He's got potential, but he just doesn't live up to it. Unlike Randy Orton, who has no
potential and lives right up to that.
MHJ: "if it is kinky, depraved, erotic, or a fetish, you will find it"
theflammabledouchimal: By the way, I heard that house shows have Morrison and Mcintyre teaming up to take on the team of Baretta/Croft, with Jericho
as special ref.
Ortonmustdie
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posted on 6-16-2010 at 01:35 PM
quote:Originally posted by firewoman.... tired stereotypes in lieu of humor.
Hey, it worked for Don Rickles....
RawIsDan
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posted on 6-16-2010 at 02:21 PM
lol on the pics. nice job.
quote:Originally posted by JB KING
Qonas
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posted on 6-16-2010 at 07:24 PM
Wait, so, now we're not fans of offensive jokes? I thought we were all able to be mature and take it in the manner intended: humor.
