Qonas
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posted on 4-1-2011 at 03:38 PM |
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That Air Force/Oregon game would've been hilarious to watch. And see? Not only would the playoffs be riveting, but they gave Wisconsin a second
chance to beat Michigan State and stake a claim as the real Big 10 champs.
Why Don't You Put Out an APB - an Ask Pam Beesly!
So the pop culture zeitgeist of this shitty age I find myself living in doesn't just compel me to love these piggish oafs, but I now also
have to admit that they're the equivalent to hard-working people who've earned legitimate acting careers? Fuck that noise, junior. -
Paddlefoot
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Chris Is Good517
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posted on 5-9-2011 at 02:59 AM |
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Lengthy and naively optimistic article from my boy Pete Fiutak over at College Football News, but an
enjoyable one, even though it doesn't really break new ground. Apparently ol' Petey really thinks that this time the government is going
to come down on the BCS. I wish I shared his good faith. Time will tell.
quote:
Now that Bin Laden has been found, no, the United States government really doesn�t have anything better to do than figure out why college football
doesn�t have an adequate playoff system.
The BCS has been criticized from the start of the 1998 season as exclusionary, bizarre, and disappointing in the way it determines a national
champion, and now it also might be illegal.
The Justice Department, speared on by a push from the Utah attorney general, Mark Shurtleff, and headed up by U.S. Assistant Attorney General,
Christine Varney, is taking a serious look at whether or not the Bowl Championship Series violates federal antitrust laws because 1) some conferences
� currently the MAC, Mountain West, Sun Belt, Conference USA, and WAC � have to jump through hoops to get into one of the big money bowl games, and 2)
because there�s such a major discrepancy in the money and the payouts between the haves and the have-nots. Basically, the Department of Justice has
the same questions that most fans have had for more than a decade.
Why the heck is there a BCS and why isn�t there some sort of a playoff?
While this might not seem like some sort of a major national injustice, the BCS and college football bowls are multi-million dollar businesses. And
when the outcomes of big football games affects the bottom lines of taxpayer-funded universities, and when some schools are getting paid more than
others, questions start to get asked.
For the 2010 season, every ACC, Big East, and Big 12 school made $21.2 million from the BCS. Every Big Ten, SEC, and Pac-10 school got $27.2 million,
making more because the three conferences each had two teams in the BCS games. On the flip side, every non-AQ conference, not school, conference, got
$24.72 million.
While the BCS has put in rules to make it easier for the teams from non-automatic qualifier conferences to get one team automatically eligible for one
of the five BCS games, there are those who believe the system might technically be a monopoly. Now Varney and others are asking the NCAA to figure out
some way to change things up.
The process began with a sour grapes argument coming from Utah, whose politicians, particularly Senator Orrin Hatch, have been in a frenzy over the
BCS system since the University of Utah was famously spurned from the national title process in 2008. The Utes went undefeated, upset Alabama in the
Sugar Bowl, and finished behind a one-loss Florida in the final pecking order and didn't get its chance for the title. That Utah is now in the
club as a member of the Pac-12 has nothing to do with the fight, and this probably wouldn�t be on the table if the Utes had been blown away by the
Tide in the 2009 Sugar Bowl, but Shurtleff is still going after the antitrust lawsuit.
Shurtleff got the ball rolling, and the Department of Justice is stepping up with the muscle with Varney�s letter to NCAA President Mark Emmert asking
why college football doesn�t have a playoff at the highest level. But this might not really be an NCAA issue.
Unlike the wildly popular men�s basketball tournament, the final determining factor in the college football national championship process is run by
the FBS (Football Bowl Subdivision) schools with the university presidents and athletic directors running the show more than the NCAA. Technically,
there really isn�t any form of a college football post-season as run by the NCAA, but that doesn�t mean the organization isn�t being asked to show why
there isn�t a better system that could do a better job of including all 120 members in the process.
For the BCS, its proponents, and the bowl system in general, it�s a case of bad timing and worse luck that the lawsuit and the anti-BCS movement is
able to gather momentum, and now, the BCS and its cockamamie system could be on the brink of non-existence. This all could�ve been moot if one 45-yard
field goal attempt had gone a few feet the other way.
In 2009, TCU, a non-AQ school, was neck-and-neck with Cincinnati, from the BCS�s Big East, in a fight to jump into one of the coveted top two spots in
the final BCS rankings, which would�ve assured a place in the BCS Championship. All the Horned Frogs and Bearcats needed to wage the battle in the
polls and computers was for unbeaten Texas to lose the Big 12 Championship game against Nebraska, and it almost happened.
The Longhorns kept the regular season perfect when Hunter Lawrence hit a bomb of a game-winning field goal in the final moments to secure a spot in
the BCS Championship game against Alabama. Had Texas lost, TCU would�ve had an honest chance to beat out Cincinnati to play for the title and a non-AQ
program would've had its day in the sun. The 2010 Horned Frogs came close, too, finishing third in the final BCS rankings. They would�ve had a
shot at playing for the national title if Auburn had lost the SEC Championship to South Carolina or if Oregon had lost the regular season finale
against Oregon State.
Had TCU played in either one of the last two BCS Championship games, it would�ve been a hard sell for the BCS-is-exclusionary fight and would�ve been
a blow for those desperate for a real, live college football playoff. But now, because of the legal system, fans clamoring for some semblance of a
playoff to determine the national championship on the field instead of by a slew of voters and wacky formulas are closer than ever to their dream
coming true. But the Football Bowl Association and the BCS types like things the way they are because the rich old guys in the silly yellow bowl
jackets want to keep all the power and all the money for themselves. They�re not going to go down quietly.
School presidents and athletic directors like the bowl system because it keeps the alumni happy, coaches employed, and the pressure off. If there are
35 bowl games, 35 teams end their season on a happy high note. There�s only one winner in a playoff, and if you�re a big-wig at Ohio State, Alabama,
Auburn, Florida, LSU, Oklahoma, Florida State or some other football powerhouse who ended the 2010 season with a huge bowl victory, the last thing you
need is a grouchy fan base cranking up the heat after the football team flamed out in the second round of a tournament. But that�s life in a playoff,
and most fans will accept that if it means an honest shot at a national title through some sort of tournament.
So now it�s up to the BCS and the NCAA to figure out its next move, and both can easily save face, avoid the costly lawsuit, make gobs of money, make
fans happy, and even turn the system more in its favor with just a few tweaks. Here are two very easy ways to make this all go away, but neither idea
will happen because of the egos involved.
1) Throw out the criteria to get into a BCS game.
Going back to the TCU argument of the last few seasons, a non-AQ team was this close to playing in each of the last two national championships. NCAA
and BCS, that�s your defense. How could the system be a monopoly and exclusionary when a non-AQ team was closer to playing for the title than Ohio
State, Oklahoma, or several other big-name BCS-league schools?
But that�s not going to fly with the feds, so to get rid of the exclusionary aspect of the BCS, simply eliminate the idea of the automatic qualifiers.
There are ten spots in five bowl games, so simplify it: the top ten ranked teams are in no matter what the conference affiliation.
No. 1 vs. No. 2 plays for the national title, and the other eight teams in the top ten get a spot in one of the big money games. Don�t like it, Sun
Belt? Neither will the Big East or the ACC. Mountain West and Conference USA, if you want the money, then make sure you have a few teams good enough
to be in the top ten. The argument then could be that, in theory, four Mountain West teams could be in BCS games if they�re good enough. In reality,
four SEC teams might be in the money every year, but at least the system would no longer delineate between the BCS schools and the little guys.
Everyone has an equal shot. Go 12-0, and you're almost certainly going to be in the top ten.
Or �
2) NCAA, just make an easy playoff system.
Here�s the little secret that BCS executive director Bill Hancock and his minions don�t want the world to figure out. College football can have a
playoff and the bowl system can stay in place.
People who watched the Ticketcity.com Bowl last year are still going to watch if there�s a playoff. Have the normal minor, non-BCS bowl season as it
stands now. The same people who didn�t go to the Little Caesar�s Bowl before will still keep Ford Field empty, and New Year�s Day could still have its
smorgasbord of games like fans have always enjoyed. The difference would be that the current BCS games would take on more importance.
The top eight ranked conference champions would be in a playoff. If you�re the MAC, Sun Belt, or WAC, and if you have a problem with this, then get
better. In most seasons, the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, and SEC would be almost assured a spot, and the Mountain West and Conference USA
would likely get the other two spots. (And as for Notre Dame, enough is enough with the preferential treatment. Join a conference if you want to be a
part of the fun.)
Starting on the Saturday night on the weekend closest to Christmas � forget about Sunday since college football, even with a playoff, doesn�t want to
compete with the NFL � it�s Round One of an eight team playoff. The Final Four would be played the following Saturday, and the National Championship
would be played on the Monday nine days later with the game being played roughly around the day it�s currently scheduled.
There would be seven total playoff games that would rotate among six bowl games � Cotton, Fiesta, Orange, Rose, Sugar, and a new bowl to be played in
Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis, to give the Midwest fans an easy chance to get to a game � with the national championship rotating in an extra game
among the six. For those who think the game would have a hard time bringing in fans, it wouldn�t be any different than the first round of the NCAA
Basketball Tournament; these games would take on a life of their own.
The season would end at the same time it does now; all the student-athletes would be on winter break and wouldn't miss any school; the national
championship combatants would only play two more games than they would under normal circumstances; and the integrity of the regular season would
remain intact, since winning a conference title would mean everything.
How would the big conferences react to not getting two teams in a tournament? Simple. Get to the national championship and get three BCS-bowl paydays
instead of the maximum of two a league can currently get. The SEC would take that chance in a heartbeat.
But for now, the NCAA and the BCS are going to use their flimsy defenses to try to fight the U.S. Department of Justice, and they�re going to lose and
lose big unless they change things up in a big hurry.
The call has gone out to the BCS to adapt and change or die, and college football fans everywhere will eventually rejoice because of it.
Gee, I wish I was still alive- LuckyLopez R.I.P.
Bachmann: "I haven't had a gaffe... when it comes to the best Republican who take
on Barack Obama and not have any clunker in my record to be able to take him on, it's me."
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Qonas
Showstopper
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posted on 5-11-2011 at 07:10 PM |
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So the cheaters at Ohio State are in yet more trouble. Their hookup for cars to "student"-athletes is now under investigation for tax evasion, and
the investigation has brought up a slew of red flags. The most damnable and set-in-stone proof is
this, where
a kid got a car for 10k under Kelly Blue Book current prices and about 20k under KBB prices at the time of "purchase". This leaves the Kniffin dude
(the car guy) with a choice between declaring the number correct - hello benefits violation - and declaring it incorrect - hello tax evasion.
Meanwhile, I have discovered why RichRod was fired in place of a MAC coach who has won literally nothing: http://hokepoints.tumblr.com/
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Chris Is Good517
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posted on 5-30-2011 at 03:25 PM |
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Jim Tressel has resigned from Ohio State
It sounds more like he might have been asked/told to step down, but either way, big news that potentially changes the Big Ten landscape, but if
I'm a betting man (I'm not, but if I was...) I think Urban Meyer leads the Buckeyes into September.
Nobody should be happier to hear this than Michigan.
Gee, I wish I was still alive- LuckyLopez R.I.P.
Bachmann: "I haven't had a gaffe... when it comes to the best Republican who take
on Barack Obama and not have any clunker in my record to be able to take him on, it's me."
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theflammablemanimal
The Man
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posted on 5-30-2011 at 06:45 PM |
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I'd be enjoying this more if it wasn't the only thing being talked about on Sportscenter.
The first undisputed OO draft champion of the world
Get the pistons pumping and let the pigeons loose on my yambag
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OOMike
Man of a Thousand Holds
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posted on 5-31-2011 at 01:13 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
but if I'm a betting man (I'm not, but if I was...) I think Urban Meyer leads the Buckeyes into September.
Nobody should be happier to hear this than Michigan.
Don't make that bet, I doubt he will take the job even if offered. OSU still has to deal with their starting QB, RB, WR all sitting for 5
games. What will most likely happen is that they will have an interim coach this year, then go after Meyer after the season wraps up 6-5ish and they
play in the Tidy-Bowl.
And as a Michigan fan, I am very happy....would be going nuts if they brought back John Cooper...
The movie "Idiocracy" was really a documentary.
Never let the facts interfere with a good rant.
The only OO columnist that has never written a column.
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Chris Is Good517
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posted on 5-31-2011 at 02:54 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by OOMike
Don't make that bet, I doubt he will take the job even if offered. OSU still has to deal with their starting QB, RB, WR all sitting for 5
games. What will most likely happen is that they will have an interim coach this year, then go after Meyer after the season wraps up 6-5ish and they
play in the Tidy-Bowl.
Probably. But given the furthur shitstorm about to hit Ohio State, this time centered
around Terrell Pryor and the Tat Five, there's always
the possibility that
those kids say "fuck it" and declare for the supplemental draft. It would be a really awful decision for them to do that as I can't
imagine many NFL front offices would want to go within a mile of any of those guys, but you never know. And considering that the guy that they made
the commitment to stay in school and serve that suspension for is gone, what incentive do they really have now?
Gee, I wish I was still alive- LuckyLopez R.I.P.
Bachmann: "I haven't had a gaffe... when it comes to the best Republican who take
on Barack Obama and not have any clunker in my record to be able to take him on, it's me."
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OOMike
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posted on 5-31-2011 at 04:29 PM |
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Which just adds to the reason not to go this year for Meyer... OSU does not have a real back up for those three. They could get by the first 5 games
since they really don't play anyone decent excpet for Colorado. They could be 4-1 after those 5 games, but try to play the Big 1(2)0 schedule
without them... they may not make a bowl (if they are 3-2 especially)
The movie "Idiocracy" was really a documentary.
Never let the facts interfere with a good rant.
The only OO columnist that has never written a column.
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Chris Is Good517
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posted on 6-1-2011 at 04:10 PM |
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Oh, LSUfreek, I've missed you
Anyway, quote: Which just adds to the reason not to go this year for Meyer... OSU does not have a real back up for those three. They could get by the
first 5 games since they really don't play anyone decent excpet for Colorado. They could be 4-1 after those 5 games, but try to play the Big
1(2)0 schedule without them... they may not make a bowl (if they are 3-2 especially)
Look, Colorado is an okay team but I'm fairly confident that as is the case with 75% of D-I college football, Ohio State's backups >
Colorado's starters. Colorado is actually among the least of the Buckeyes' worries, that opening 5 game stretch is
Akron
Toledo
@Miami FL.
Colorado
Michigan St.
So 4 out of 5 of those games are home games and Michigan State is probably the most serious threat, although obviously Miami is probably capable of
getting them, too.
There's a lot of speculation going around right now that with all of these new allegations, Pryor probably won't be back at all.
Gee, I wish I was still alive- LuckyLopez R.I.P.
Bachmann: "I haven't had a gaffe... when it comes to the best Republican who take
on Barack Obama and not have any clunker in my record to be able to take him on, it's me."
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atothej
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posted on 6-6-2011 at 08:26 PM |
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I'm just going to assume that CiG and Tex are too busy dancing in the streets/otherwise celebrating to post this:
BCS strips Southern California of
2004 national championship
Well, now they're a dynasty with no legit National Titles. Interesting.
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williamssl
Steers and Queers
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posted on 6-6-2011 at 08:52 PM |
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Don't Mess With Texas
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Qonas
Showstopper
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posted on 6-6-2011 at 09:27 PM |
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This offseason is making the past 8 years of hell so, so worth it.
Why Don't You Put Out an APB - an Ask Pam Beesly!
So the pop culture zeitgeist of this shitty age I find myself living in doesn't just compel me to love these piggish oafs, but I now also
have to admit that they're the equivalent to hard-working people who've earned legitimate acting careers? Fuck that noise, junior. -
Paddlefoot
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salmonjunkie
American Dream
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posted on 6-7-2011 at 06:36 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by atothej
I'm just going to assume that CiG and Tex are too busy dancing in the streets/otherwise celebrating to post this:
BCS strips Southern California of
2004 national championship
Well, now they're a dynasty with no legit National Titles. Interesting.
me too! Fuck SC!
Personally, I think he�s a [freaking homosexual].
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Frank Lloyd Wright
Man of a Thousand Holds
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posted on 6-9-2011 at 04:54 AM |
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Not that I really care, but they are still the AP National Champs for 2004. They can give a rats ass if you've cheated or not. Good example
was the 1974 Sooners who finished undefeated and were on probation at the time. The AP voted them as National Champions.
I have two ambitions in life: one is to drink every pub dry, the other is to sleep with every woman on earth -- Oliver Reed
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