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Taken from 411mania.com
Director Ron Howard and Universal Pictures are reportedly looking at Javier Bardem to play Roland Deschain in their epic feature film-TV series
adaptation of Stephen King's The Dark Tower.
The New York Post says Bardem is "leading the pack" of contenders, "with Viggo Mortensen a close second."
Bardem was also announced today as in consideration for a role in Cogan's Trade.
I think I'd prefer Viggo over Bardem because when I think of Roland I don't see the scary guy from No Country for Old Men. That being
said, they are both fine actors and as someone that's read all the books and comics (and as someone whose fantasy football team was called "The
Little Sisters of Eluria") I look more and more forward to this everyday.
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Yeah, I actually think I'd prefer Viggo as well. Bardem wouldn't be bad though.
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Viggo!
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Further update on possible casting:
linkage:
http://www.411mania.com/movies/news/169247/%5BMovies%5D-Naomie-Harris-May-Be-Up-For-Dark-Tower-Role.htm
Pirates of the Caribbean actress may be playing Odetta Holmes�
Naomie Harris, who played Tia Dalma in the Pirates of the Caribbean films, may be playing the female lead in Ron Howard's film and television
adaptation of The Dark Tower. The New York Post reports that Harris is up for the role of Odetta Holmes, the legless woman with split personality who
ends up brought into Mid-World by Roland.
With a possible Roland (in Viggo of Javier) and now Susannah Dean it makes me wonder who they have for Eddie Dean. For some reason the last time I
read the books I had the dude from White Collar (Matt Bomer) in my head when I was reading about Eddie. Either or, it looks like their moving forward
with this full steam. I still don't know how it's going to translate and whether or not they'll keep the TV show aspect if the
first movie fails. Ever since they had the painting in The Mist I've wondered about whether or not this can work and it looks like
we're getting closer and closer.
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Christian Bale just basically played Eddie in The Fighter. Then again, that's just a small aspect of Eddie's character.
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posted on 1-27-2011 at 07:08 PM |
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This can not happen.
http://movies.ign.com/articles/114/1146182p1.html
quote: "A source said Dexter star Jennifer Carpenter is rising on the short list for the role of Susannah, as is French/Moroccan Ghita Tazi," the
Post added.
Susannah Dean is black. Her race is an integral part of her character. Changing her race would be changing her story. She would cease to be Susannah
from the Dark Tower series. This is not like Michael Clark Duncan playing Kingpin in the Daredevil movie... which i'm not admitting
I've seen.
I'm all for reimagining a character to freshen them up a bit, but in this case doing so would be a mistake IMO, moreso for the Susannah
character than Roland, Eddie, or any of the other characters from the series.
Now if they mean to have these actresses up for the role of "Susan" Delgado from Wizards and Glass rather than "Susannah" Dean then I have
no complaint.
[Edited on 1-27-2011 by Blown Spot]
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You are correct. If this is true, someone should call Al Sharpton so he can start yelling about white women stealing black roles. I'm not sure
why they would even make that change unless they think everyone will get their panties in a bunch over some black/white loving.
This is way dumber than a black superman or a black James Bond.
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Assuming they are changing her race they would probably be changing her back story too to make it less complex. If I remember right wasn't there
multiple personalities, abuse, hooking and a few other things in Susannah's makeup? Not too mention lots of vulgar language? Sometimes
characters do have to be simplified to make them more relateable to a mass audience
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I usually agree, but in this case Susanah needs her backstory and she needs to stay black in order for this film character to be at all true to the
book. I know there will be changes, and there always are, when a book becomes a live action movie, but this change would be a pretty big deal. If they
are afraid of contraversy it would be better to make Eddie a black guy, but I really didn't think that was a big issue these days
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posted on 1-28-2011 at 08:33 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Biff_Manly
Assuming they are changing her race they would probably be changing her back story too to make it less complex. If I remember right wasn't there
multiple personalities, abuse, hooking and a few other things in Susannah's makeup? Not too mention lots of vulgar language? Sometimes
characters do have to be simplified to make them more relateable to a mass audience
So you're suggesting they changed her race to make her backstory less complex thus making her more relatable to a mass audience?
Not buying that. I'd go even further to say if they were to omit Susannah's "multiple personalities, abuse, hooking,..." or any other
traits in her makeup just to appease a mass audience then they might as well change her name to Millicent, make her a New England aristocrat, with her
only handicap being a lisp, and a mild case of diabetes. Oh wait that's too complicated.
The whole story is complex. I'm sure they will simplify other parts of the story not to mention ignore entire plot points, but still, I'm
not crying racism here. I'm simply pointing out how THIS change is unnecessary and potentially damaging to the story as originally told by King.
It would be like changing Roland from a gunslinger to a Navy Seal, or The Man in Black into The Woman in Green, or when Stephen King inserts himself
in the story, Dan Brown shows up instead and gets run over by a Prius in Los Angeles because Maine is not mainstream enough an area for an author to
partake in a leisurely stroll.
[Edited on 1-28-2011 by Blown Spot]
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I'll take this with a grain of salt. I really don't see how you cast a white actress in the role of Susannah without heavily altering the
story and/or drawing a lot of controversy to the movie. Personally, I think switching an established character's race in a film is kinda stupid
in any case, whether it be a black Kingpin in Daredevil or a white Terry Fitzgerald in Spawn (okay, Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury may be the one
exception because he's badass and there's already some precedent with the Ultimate version of Nick Fury). As retarded as Hollywood can be,
I highly doubt we'll see a Dark Tower movie featuring a white Susannah.
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posted on 1-28-2011 at 08:26 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by Blown Spot
It would be like changing Roland from a gunslinger to a Navy Seal, or The Man in Black into The Woman in Green, or when Stephen King inserts himself
in the story, Dan Brown shows up instead and gets run over by a Prius in Los Angeles because Maine is not mainstream enough an area for an author to
partake in a leisurely stroll.
[Edited on 1-28-2011 by Blown Spot]
Can you explain to me how, in any way, that wouldn't be the most fantastic trainwreck of a movie ever?
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Maybe if I were to change Dan Brown to Stephenie Meyer... sure.
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I'll compromise: Dan Brown runs over Stephenie Meyer, goes to Stephen King for guidance on what to do with the body only for King to gun him
down, defile their bodies and then burn the both their bodies and the Prius using a jet dragster.
And then Bane breaks his back and hurls him off a cliff. Wrong thread.
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By the way, has anybody read the Dark Tower graphic novels? I#m up to the battle of Jerichos hill and these things are great. Nice new content, good
job keeping the voice right and the art is phenomenal.
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Javier Bardem is officially Roland.
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Damn. Cancelled.
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Not quite cancelled. Universal Pictures pulled out of the deal, but I saw something where Stephen King was quoted as saying that didn't come as
a total shock, and that he believes Ron Howard will find another studio to work with. My Hollywood Brother also confirms that while the project
currently doesn't have a home, there are still people who are employed on the project, which remains in development.
No guarantees of it sticking with the 3-movies/2-mini-series format, but the current King/Howard vision for the Dark Tower isn't dead yet.
Who knows? This could be a good thing. Universal would have had an interest in a "sanitized" version of the Dark Tower, as the two mini-series were
to air on NBC, where TV-14 is the limit. I'm sure any theatrical movies will still be limited to PG-13, no matter who's producing it, but
re-opening the negotiations could mean the mini-series end up somewhere where the edgier content of the saga can shine. And I'm not just talking
HBO or Showtime; AMC, FX, and even TNT have drama series that carry TV-M ratings...
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quote: Originally posted by theflammablemanimal
By the way, has anybody read the Dark Tower graphic novels? I#m up to the battle of Jerichos hill and these things are great. Nice new content, good
job keeping the voice right and the art is phenomenal.
I've been buying them as they come out in hardcover, as they are good enough that I can feel justified to spring for the nicer ones.
I miss Jae Lee doing all of the art, but I suppose as long as Isanove is doing all the digital colouring it still retains enough of a similar feel
throughout.
I'm wondering just how far they are going to go with these things. I know that despite some odd names and a bit of jumping around the Stand
comics Marvel is also publishing are intended to eventually add up to the whole of the novel. The DT graphic novels have so far (with the exception of
the LSOEluria arc) largely contented themselves with filling in gaps, or cobbling together threads from a few books to lay out the backstory, so
I'm not sure if they are going to dive into the DT books themselves or not.
Although I guess the question would be, why not? Peter David seems content to do only the scripting as it still lets him write other books. Robyn
Furth was King's long time assistant and has written, I do believe, 2 books on the series, so its not like she's breaking much of a sweat
doing the plottting. I was sad to see Jae Lee take a break/leave, but I get that with artists its always about the next challenge, and Jae
doesn't have any long tenures with any books he's done in the past (I think DT is a record for him). Lastly, Isanove seems to be in it for
the long haul and why not? He's the top colourist in the biz', and they've given him a chance to do some of the art as well, so
I'm sure he's happy.
End of the day everyone is probably making "easy" money off of this as King already blazed the trail, and his name probably keeps the books doing
good circulation/sales.
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I didn't realize how much King business Marvel was getting into. They have the Dark Tower series, plus a Stand series and apparently they just
did a series based off N, a random short story. I've got to pick those up too.
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I think only DT and the Stand are ongoing, and that "N" was just a 4 parter more based off his story as opposed to King having much else to do with
it. I haven't read the comic book version but did take a quick flip through the collected edition and was very impressed with Alex
Maleev's art in it... his kind of grainy and dark style really seemed to fit the tone of the story.
King has been a busy guy in the world of comic books of late, as last year he actually wrote part of one for himself as he helped launch Scott
Snyder's "American Vampire". The first five issues were split into two parts each issue with Snyder telling the story in the 1920's and
King tackling the origin aspects in the late 1800's.
For anyone sick of the current trend of prancing pretty boy vampire stories, American Vampire is worth checking out even if King is no longer
co-writing. Snyder (who also is doing an awesome job on Batman) is a great writer, and his take on vampires is both original and more in line with
real horror. Basically the approach he's taking is that evolution also happens with vampires, so you start to see different strands of vampirism
with unique features and powers. American Vampire tells the story of the birth of the American strain, and how other vamps and groups are dealing with
this.
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Just came across this news - not sure how old it is:
New Dark Tower book - The Wind through the Keyhole
quote: Dear Constant Readers,
At some point, while worrying over the copyedited manuscript of the next book (11/22/63, out November 8th), I started thinking�and dreaming�about
Mid-World again. The major story of Roland and his ka-tet was told, but I realized there was at least one hole in the narrative progression: what
happened to Roland, Jake, Eddie, Susannah, and Oy between the time they leave the Emerald City (the end of Wizard and Glass) and the time we pick them
up again, on the outskirts of Calla Bryn Sturgis (the beginning of Wolves of the Calla)?
There was a storm, I decided. One of sudden and vicious intensity. The kind to which billy-bumblers like Oy are particularly susceptible. Little by
little, a story began to take shape. I saw a line of riders, one of them Roland�s old mate, Jamie DeCurry, emerging from clouds of alkali dust thrown
by a high wind. I saw a severed head on a fencepost. I saw a swamp full of dangers and terrors. I saw just enough to want to see the rest. Long story
short, I went back to visit an-tet with my friends for awhile. The result is a novel called The Wind Through the Keyhole. It�s finished, and I expect
it will be published next year.
It won�t tell you much that�s new about Roland and his friends, but there�s a lot none of us knew about Mid-World, both past and present. The novel is
shorter than DT 2-7, but quite a bit longer than the first volume�call this one DT-4.5. It�s not going to change anybody�s life, but God, I had
fun.
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Sigh....Warner Bros
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BUMP because we have a Jan 2017 release date for
the first installment
(and no Will Smith is not in it)
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Dada chum, dada chick, this adaptation can suck my dick. Go now, there are other King adaptations than these. This is Sony, remember. Sony for
fuck's sake. Though I would love to give a good hoot and holler when they try to figure out how to do the parts where King injects himself into
the story, and the Warner Bros. owned Harry Potter (Golden Snitch) Sneeches, the Disney owned Star Wars Lightsabers, and the Fox owned Dr. Doom
costume all being an essential part of the narrative in the later books.
From The Gunslinger to Wizard and Glass, sure, nothing gets too weird then BAM, he gets hit by a car and shit took a weird turn. And one of the
critical motifs of the DT books were that they connected virtually every other one of his books. And if you can't reasonably explain those
connections, then how do they give full weight to Flagg's actions? HARRUMPH, I say!!!
If they give it the Lord of The Rings treatment, maybe. But I would think there's several orders of magnitude difference in degenerate nerd
interest between that and Dark Tower. Be better as an animated dealie, I think. Otherwise they're headed down the path Snyder tried with
Watchmen.
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