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posted on 2-2-2016 at 04:01 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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If nothing else, now you have a new earworm that will pop into your head at the worst times....
Man am I =ever= glad I didn't click. I'm really REALLY succeptible to earworms. Thank you for taking one for the team.

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So...um...I hope no one was looking forward to a Rockers reunion one day...


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posted on 2-2-2016 at 04:09 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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If nothing else, now you have a new earworm that will pop into your head at the worst times....
Man am I =ever= glad I didn't click. I'm really REALLY succeptible to earworms. Thank you for taking one for the team.


I can't tell for sure if Janard is a genius, or just completely broken.... In another life, I could probably have partied with him when I was younger.

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posted on 2-2-2016 at 04:15 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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I can't tell for sure if Janard is a genius, or just completely broken.... In another life, I could probably have partied with him when I was younger.


There is a fine line between genius & insanity. On that line, there is a tollbooth. Janners WORKS at that tollbooth.

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posted on 2-2-2016 at 04:18 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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So...um...I hope no one was looking forward to a Rockers reunion one day...




I think my favorite part of that post is "biitch" and "hurrd."

And tonight's RAW made me realize something: Lesnar/Reigns/Ambrose would have been a viable WrestleMania main event and I would take that over whatever we're going to get involving Triple H. There's a lot of good dynamics between the three and if it were taking place at WrestleMania for the title, a legit case could be made for any of them walking out as champion.





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posted on 2-2-2016 at 04:42 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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I can't tell for sure if Janard is a genius, or just completely broken.... In another life, I could probably have partied with him when I was younger.


There is a fine line between genius & insanity. On that line, there is a tollbooth. Janners WORKS at that tollbooth.


I am but a simple man tumbling aimlessly down the highway of life...



And yes to what goon suggested, though I am getting a bit worn out from WM Triple Threat title matches. Bryan-Orton-Bats for 30, Rollins-Reigns-Lesnar for 31, and now conceivably Reigns-HHH-To Be Determined if shit goes sideways at Fastlane.





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And tonight's RAW made me realize something: Lesnar/Reigns/Ambrose would have been a viable WrestleMania main event and I would take that over whatever we're going to get involving Triple H. There's a lot of good dynamics between the three and if it were taking place at WrestleMania for the title, a legit case could be made for any of them walking out as champion.


I know I've been "Reigns-HHH is fine" guy, but just watching Raw...it seems like they're warming up to the idea of a bigger Ambrose part at Mania...especially if you look at Jericho moving away from the hinted program (he's probably not losing to AJ and then getting an IC title match).

Still stuck on how you remove the Wyatts from the equation, though it's been completely separate so far (and WWE believes everyone forgets everything)...so...there's at least a chance perhaps they can half-ass their way into a 4-way at Mania...which I think everyone would be happy for.

We'll seeeeeeeee

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I am but a simple man tumbling aimlessly down the highway of life...


Let's see if I can do this right.. (I tried to find The Rock/Big Show from backstage-last week, but this guy's gonna have to do.)


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posted on 2-2-2016 at 05:35 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Still stuck on how you remove the Wyatts from the equation, though it's been completely separate so far (and WWE believes everyone forgets everything)...so...there's at least a chance perhaps they can half-ass their way into a 4-way at Mania...which I think everyone would be happy for.

We'll seeeeeeeee


I think you under estimate the snark some of the anti-Triple H/anti-Reigns folks have. They could be told that after Reigns wins the title at WrestleMania, Daniel Bryan will come out for the impromptu match and will get the victory...while a Diva of their choice (or Darren Young) fellates them. And they would still be angry.

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So was the kid in the Bullet Club t shirt in the New Day promo foreshadowing something??? Because, you know...
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That was actually Machine Gun Anderson, but y'know, everybody looks smaller in WWE.





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posted on 2-2-2016 at 11:22 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
This Raw to me was just sort of the epitome of middle of the road. Nothing awful, nothing spectacular. The highlight was probably the Miz bit and Ambrose standing up in Brock's face at the beginning. Oh, and the Goldust/Truth stuff because god damn is Dustin Rhodes committed to being the weirdest fucking guy and I love it.

But I mean, it was nothing I'd rewatch. It was fine. Perfectly pleasant way to pass the time.





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Owens won pretty much every prior TV meeting with Dolph; I was okay with Ziggler getting the win here. I imagine Owens regains the I-C between now and Fastlane and retains against Dolph there, going on to defend against Zayn or Styles or both at Mania.

WWE priorities, in order of importance.
1) Mock Lillian's gaffes.
2) FIGURE OUT HOW TO BOOK MANIA WITH A TON OF GUYS HURT.

I like how JBL talked up the importance of winning on the road to Mania. Yeah, get some wins and you'll get on the card; lose and you'll probably get on the card anyway through the now-traditional battle royal and ladder schmozz.

At least it made sense that no one tried to save Big Show. How many times has he turned on, well, everybody?

I don't like Sasha going face, but if they're set on Charlotte-Sasha for Mania, someone has to be a face. At least Naomi has something to do now.

I am given to understand that one is a horrible sexist individual if one doesn't believe that the Bellas are God's gift to women's wrestling and I offer no further comment.

They REALLY don't want A.J. to talk.

The fans aren't booing; they're chanting ROOOOO-MAN.

Liked the Ambrose stuff with Brock.

I honestly don't understand why they mention Daniel Bryan's name on TV or do anything to encourage possible chants in that regard (like Mrs. Bryan doing the kick sequence).





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For the record: Yes, I've accepted that I'll probably never be truly satisfied with WWE's current product. Let them(hell, any wrestling promotion) do as they see fit and let the business side of things decide who's doing it "right" or "wrong".





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They are handling AJ Styles really well. He is clearly over with the crowd. Miz was absolutely brilliant in that segment. He pretty much sat there and read off AJ's wrestling resume off the top of his head. If you didn't know who he was before, you do now!

This was a good episode for the simple fact that there was plenty of wrestling content. When I lose count of how many matches there were over a 3 hour show, you won't see me complain.

Anyone know why the brothers Bo Dallas and Brey Wyatt weren't on the show? Family Wedding...funeral????

[Edited on 2-2-2016 by Frank Lloyd Wright]

After a little bit of investigation, There were reports that Bo and his brother Bray Wyatt left Raw because their grandpa Blackjack Mulligan is in poor health, so the family (including their father Mike Rotunda/IRS) is all together to be by his side.

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posted on 2-2-2016 at 03:20 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Blackjack Mulligan, Bray and Bo's gramps, apparently isn't doing well and they and their road agent dad Mike "IRS" Rotunda took time off to go visit with him.

ETA: Sadness Investigation Feedback Loop confirmed.

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Great babyface promo by Ambrose; made him seem like he belonged & should be taken as a legit threat to win the match. Here's hoping they cleverly get the IC title onto Owens in the next few weeks so it won't seem like as much of an afterthought as it did tonight. I'm not as high on his in-ring work as others but he's a tremendous promo, let the guy keep talking.

Agreed that the Miz & AJ stuff was awesome too. Can Miz just have his own Heenan like family yet? He'd be so perfect for that role & I feel like they keep teasing us with but haven't gone all in yet. Jericho followed that segment with a great, understated promo as well. WWE could do worse than Y2J v AJ at Mania this year.

I'm not as high on the New Day as a lot of others but, motherfuck, when did Kofi Kingston become so strong on the mic!? Something clicked with me regarding him the last couple week, & while all 3 feel natural & comfortable, Kofi has made such huge strides we may need to reevaluate his ceiling because I think he certainly has the most upside of the 3.





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Owens losing to Ziggler is the kind of stupid booking the WWE does. The Ziggler ship has sailed and it's not like he is important in the immediate or long term term. Owens COULD be (and probably should be) but takes a loss in a random RAW match serving what purpose?


As with most things WWE, I just enjoyed the match and even the Ziggler win in a bubble, but yeah in the grand scheme of things it was kind of lolwut? given that Dolph has essentially been "Ceiling'd". Unless there's a WM MITB afoot and they've got plans to build up a feud down the r

Or they are taking two supremely talented guys and slowly building an epic feud between the two that could elevate both of their careers? I know Owens is the Official IWC Wanker Wrestler Du Jour, but Ziggler is equally talented and both of these guys could use a feud with each other to help themselves. Ziggler's neon personality and fantastic selling contrasts perfectly with KO's rough-around-the-edges brawling style. I for one welcome repeated matches that go back and forth with these two. Don't you think it's a little to pull the plug on Ziggler? Shit...

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Still stuck on how you remove the Wyatts from the equation, though it's been completely separate so far (and WWE believes everyone forgets everything)...so...there's at least a chance perhaps they can half-ass their way into a 4-way at Mania...which I think everyone would be happy for.

We'll seeeeeeeee


I think you under estimate the snark some of the anti-Triple H/anti-Reigns folks have. They could be told that after Reigns wins the title at WrestleMania, Daniel Bryan will come out for the impromptu match and will get the victory...while a Diva of their choice (or Darren Young) fellates them. And they would still be angry.

I'm sorry. Is snark not appropriate here? You have a guy that the WWE has tried and failed to get over for going on two solid years against a guy who wrestles once or twice a year and most recently (and literally) put himself over on THE ENTIRE ROSTER.

If head-shaking, eye-rolling, teeth-sucking snark isn't called for here, I don't know what is.





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WWE priorities, in order of importance.
1) Mock Lillian's gaffes.
2) FIGURE OUT HOW TO BOOK MANIA WITH A TON OF GUYS HURT.


It was doubly awful since it didn't even happen on live TV. They made it a point to replay something that happened during the commercial, just so Cole and JBL could rip on her during the whole match. Jesus, this company is run by fucking 13-year-olds.

Of course Vince looking like a gigantic pussy and not being able to unscrew some plastic balls a few weeks ago was never made fun of or mentioned again.

And just like those dudes dressed as the wrestlers last week... if this company could stop focusing on stupid, petty bullshit like this, maybe they could actually spend their energy on making sure Fastlane and Wrestlemania won't be goddamn boring thuds.





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Actually Lilian did mess up with the "Grammy Award Winning" line on live TV.

I heard it and had to rewind the DVR, since Raw had me in a vegetative state, much like The Undertaker around 5 years ago.

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Not sure what the big deal is with Ziggler winning once in a while, especially here at OO where one of the most common complaints is that he doesn't win enough. I doubt it's leading to much of a program for him anyway. Most likely they're just tossing him a bone for crossover purposes because he's prominently featured as this season's troublemaker on that wretched Bella-centric show on E that I will not name.





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Actually Lilian did mess up with the "Grammy Award Winning" line on live TV.

I heard it and had to rewind the DVR, since Raw had me in a vegetative state, much like The Undertaker around 5 years ago.



Huh. Well that shows you how much I was paying attention, because I didn't even notice it until they made it a point to say, "HAHAHAH LOOK WHAT SHE DID."

This is how I picture Vince and Bucky in the back:







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if this company could stop focusing on stupid, petty bullshit like this, maybe they could actually spend their energy on making sure Fastlane and Wrestlemania won't be goddamn boring thuds.

Another example for you incoming...
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OMG... Sign of the month: "If Roman Wins, We Complain Online".

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Obviously, that's what this guy gets for being snarky.





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posted on 2-2-2016 at 07:47 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I just wanted to drop in and do my usual swinging from the balls of The New Day. Goddamn those guys are just on fire right now. The double-dutch entrance is just fantastic. As is what we now know as the Stampede and Kofi/Woods' perfectly timed kick/trombone accompaniment. If they keep going at this rate, they are going to be the de facto face in whatever WrestleMania program they find themselves in.

Also - Glad to see them pulling the trigger on Sasha getting out of Team B.A.D. It wasn't quite the epic beatdown I hoped for but I'll take what I can get.

And just to round out the only other part of Raw I really cared about - I will echo the awesomeness (no pun intended) of Miz TV with AJ. Between that and Miz's hilarious antics with New Day when they've teamed up the last few weeks, he is on quite the roll at the moment.





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