OORick
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OOfficial Discussion Thread for: RAW (February 1, 2016)
Tonight on RAW: WWE will be tasked with trying to fix the inane final revelation of last week's RAW, in which The Authority's
master plan to keep the WWE Title away from Roman Reigns involved just putting him straight into a #1 Contender Match at the next PPV, with absolutely
no motivation for doing something that is -- objectively, given their stated goal -- so incredibly stupid...
The most obvious way for WWE to distract from their braindead storytelling is to amp up tension between Reigns and Dean Ambrose.... the two former
Shield brothers have held together fairly well, but ultimately, unless that tension leads to a modified WWE Title Match (a three-way) at WrestleMania
and includes a full-on heel turn by somebody, it'll go for naught if they just tease a little bit here and there, and then everybody's
friends again after Fastlane...
The same basic problem exists if WWE intends to make Brock Lesnar (the third man in the #1 Contender Match) a serious obstacle to the seemingly
inevitable HHH/Reigns WM32 Main Event.... in WWE's very own, company approved hype for tonight's RAW, Lesnar's participation in the
#1 Contender match is mentioned in passing, but it's clear that his primary motivation is getting back at the Wyatt Family, because Lesnar/Wyatt
is also a seemingly inevitable WM32 match...
Boiling those two paragraphs down to the only possible solution I can think of: the Wyatts interrupt the Fastlane 3-way, and by attacking Lesnar,
there's no clear cut winner (think how NXT did the Zayn/Joe/Corbin #1 Contender Match).... as a result you get your Lesnar/Wyatts match AND you
upgrade the WWE Title Match to a HHH vs. Reigns vs. Ambrose three-way that might actually not get shat upon to epically... we'll see, it's
just that as is, there's way too much indefensible dumbness swirling around WWE's fundamentally flawed plans for the WM main event
picture....
Ambrose placed in the #1 Contender Match takes the IC belt out of play... new US Champ Kalisto would still owe Alberto del Rio a rematch, but word on
the street is that ADR is battling a neck issue and may need some time off.... ergo, it might be time to hand Kalisto off to ADR's pal, Sheamus,
who seems to excel when picking on the little fellas.... or Rusev works, too... it's a shame WWE doesn't usually do face-face title feuds,
because this would also be a perfect place for AJ Styles to showcase his strengths (high energy/action in-ring) and mask his weaknesses (anything that
requires much talking or drama)...
The Rock's antics last week were fun, in a vacuum, but it also seemed like they were ultimately designed to give legs to the New Day/Usos
feud.... perhaps even legs all the way to an ultimate pay-off match at WM, where Rocky would be at ringside, helping his cousins? I dunno, but he did
say "WE wills ee you at WrestleMania" at the end of that segment last Monday.... if the New Day need to mark time for Fastlane, you always have the
Dudleys, and you also have WWE getting suspiciously behind newly formed teams like Swagger/Henry (winners of the Rumble 4-way match) and
Goldust/R-Truth (the subject of multiple vignettes already)...
A Women's Title 3-way is also what most of us seem to endorse as the plan for WM32, but I'm not sure it's WWE's.... Becky
Lynch just was NOT supposed to be that good at being the easy-to-cheer babyface, I don't think, and now I get the distinct impression WWE would
prefer to squeeze her out, with all eyes on Charlotte vs. Sasha at WM.... in that scenario, you have Charlotte doing the heelish thing of sitting back
and watching others fight for her amusement (and for a shot at her title), setting up Sasha/Becky at Fastlane...
Ambrose's bogarting of the IC Title while he plays in the WWE Title scene has a trickle down, as now Kevin Owens is completely spinning his
wheels... if he's pulling Undertaker Duty this year, it wouldn't be bad to get that started sooner than later, as Taker's increased
activity in 2015 means there's a chance to do a real pro wrestling grudge match here, and not just a randomly generated story where two guys
point to the WM Logo; I don't think Taker's had one of those since the second HBK match... Ambrose's displacement also has Jericho
with nothing to do (he seemed like he might be scheming up a heel turn and an IC Title chase, given his recent history with Ambrose)... the same can
be said for a few higher up guys, like Ziggler and even fresh-faced AJ Styles, not all of whom deserve to be fodder for the Andre Battle Royale....
Speaking of that, the only other match that seems to be percolating for Fastlane is Big Show vs. Braun Strowmann, not because anybody gives a shit (we
don't), but because it can serve as the starting point of hyping said Battle Royale... whee?
That is all. End communication.
The flOOr is yours, OO Nation. Don't wait till after 11pm to post, either. Pre-show previewing and prognosticating is certainly welcome.
So discuss, debate, and rate!
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standrir
rOOkie 
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 12:14 AM |
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I think you can take the IC title off Ambrose sooner rather than later. Give it to the Y2J/AJ feud or even Ziggler would work. I think an
interesting End Game would be the Wyatt's taking Lesnar "out" of the 3-way writing his WrestleMania story. Then you have Ambrose win the
match outright, have Reigns finagle his way into the 3-way building the tension between the two, and then at Mania either have Reigns join the
Authority outright as champion or have Ambrose win the title for the WrestleMania moment and have Reigns turn on him the following night.
"Tell your story walking bitch." -Scott Steiner
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nOOb
The Man 
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 01:02 AM |
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Seeing how nothing they did made sense last week, I could see them pulling out the reasoning for putting Reigns in the match as "You can have a title
shot...but can you really fight your Shield brother??" You know, even though he already did to initially win the title.
"The Seahawks are cool. Me and Tubby here hung out with them once at a Bruno Mars concert."-Jay and Silent Bob representing the Broncos on FOX NFL
Sunday.
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S Kid J E T S 48
The Great One
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 01:09 AM |
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Reigns is kind of owned a rematch (no idea how this works post-RR-type loss, but I guess we make it up as we go along)...all WWE had to do was convey
this clause in the reasoning for putting him in the match (like Daniel Bryan at Fastlane last year) and 99% of the issues with this match go away.
ETA:
Ambrose-Brock confrontation...looked just right standing next to him. Nice start to the year of Ambrose.
[Edited on 2-2-2016 by S Kid J E T S 48]
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janerd75
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 01:33 AM |
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So, Del Rio looked pretty okay-ish, I guess?
Stories change culture. Sports lets you feel temporarily adjacently victorious. - Foxcalibur
He's "unknown" only in the bizzaro-verse kayfabe fuckface wonderland where WWE doesn't want to admit ROH/TNA/Japan even exist. -
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TonyTH
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 01:34 AM |
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I'm really REALLY hoping this is the time for Ambrose to get his shot. It WILL go over well. And Reigns still needs more time. He and HHH will
get boo'd hard if they go that route.
That said, if Dean wins at Fastline, have the Authority just fuck him over and lose the IC title in the build up to Mania. BS match after BS match
until he finally loses. Get's the Authority heat, and makes Ambrose look sympathetic.
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scott19buckeye
Turd Generation Superstar
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 01:34 AM |
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I like the way they are using Ambrose. I like that he is at or near the top of the roster all of the time. He main events or is involved in the main
event seemingly 75% of the time. He is the IC champion we've been wanting for years. He's been a quasi-believable World Champion contender
for sometime now.
His promo was spot on. No fear and take the beating.
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S Kid J E T S 48
The Great One
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 01:41 AM |
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Did Lillian just say "Grammy Award winning Usos"?
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janerd75
Man of a Thousand Holds
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 01:43 AM |
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I dunno why, but the Uso's entrance reminds me this. (Language warning)
Also, I liked Reigns intensely low-talking Steph. He'll make for a fine heel someday. I hope.
Stories change culture. Sports lets you feel temporarily adjacently victorious. - Foxcalibur
He's "unknown" only in the bizzaro-verse kayfabe fuckface wonderland where WWE doesn't want to admit ROH/TNA/Japan even exist. -
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Ortonmustdie
And I am AWESOME
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 01:45 AM |
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Even WWE threw her under the bus for that one!
Poor Lillian.
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LoveMuscle
Turd Generation Superstar
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 01:53 AM |
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So we get the Grammy Award-winning Usos vs. Axel Rose.
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janerd75
Man of a Thousand Holds
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 02:07 AM |
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Miz is a good soldier and fucking outstanding on the mic. Hope he gets another run with at least the IC or US title. Great segment. #RookieRedneck!
Stories change culture. Sports lets you feel temporarily adjacently victorious. - Foxcalibur
He's "unknown" only in the bizzaro-verse kayfabe fuckface wonderland where WWE doesn't want to admit ROH/TNA/Japan even exist. -
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S Kid J E T S 48
The Great One
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 02:09 AM |
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Yup...totally agree. Playbook promo from The Miz. Guy who knows exactly what he's there for and does it perfectly. So far so good on the AJ run
as well.
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janerd75
Man of a Thousand Holds
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 02:47 AM |
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Yay Dom's boy! Thanks for playing, Tyler. Though you have no one to blame but yourself by not being 6'3", 260lbs. 
ETA: If they ever do Ironman matches agayn, Owens and Ziggler go to the top of the "Wanty List" for sure.
[Edited on 2-2-2016 by janerd75]
Stories change culture. Sports lets you feel temporarily adjacently victorious. - Foxcalibur
He's "unknown" only in the bizzaro-verse kayfabe fuckface wonderland where WWE doesn't want to admit ROH/TNA/Japan even exist. -
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Count Zero
Showstopper 
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 03:05 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by janerd75
Yay Dom's boy! Thanks for playing, Tyler. Though you have no one to blame but yourself by not being 6'3", 260lbs.
Thank you for playing this week's edition of "What's Tyler Breeze Doing Now?"
You win a shiney new RON SIMMONS!!!!
ETA: You can pick him up after he's finished on the JBLegend Show.
[Edited on 2-2-2016 by Count Zero]
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bigfatgoalie
The Man
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 03:11 AM |
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Owens losing to Ziggler is the kind of stupid booking the WWE does. The Ziggler ship has sailed and it's not like he is important in the
immediate or long term term. Owens COULD be (and probably should be) but takes a loss in a random RAW match serving what purpose?
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the goon
Sister Act
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Man, fuck this crowd for chanting "What?" throughout both the Miz TV and Team B.A.D. segments.
Nash is only a few inches bigger than JBL and depending on how stiff he gets Punk should be able to take it. -JB King, meant in a totally non-sexual
way
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janerd75
Man of a Thousand Holds
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 03:26 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bigfatgoalie
Owens losing to Ziggler is the kind of stupid booking the WWE does. The Ziggler ship has sailed and it's not like he is important in the
immediate or long term term. Owens COULD be (and probably should be) but takes a loss in a random RAW match serving what purpose?
As with most things WWE, I just enjoyed the match and even the Ziggler win in a bubble, but yeah in the grand scheme of things it was kind of lolwut?
given that Dolph has essentially been "Ceiling'd". Unless there's a WM MITB afoot and they've got plans to build up a feud down
the r
Stories change culture. Sports lets you feel temporarily adjacently victorious. - Foxcalibur
He's "unknown" only in the bizzaro-verse kayfabe fuckface wonderland where WWE doesn't want to admit ROH/TNA/Japan even exist. -
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Ortonmustdie
And I am AWESOME
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 03:29 AM |
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So now Banks and Lynch can team up and be the Day-Glo Divas?
Neon Nymphs?
Neon Nymphos? (we wish?)
sorry, where was the door again???
(edit: Day-glo Divas....Team Double D?)
[Edited on 2-2-2016 by Ortonmustdie]
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Count Zero
Showstopper
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| posted on 2-2-2016 at 03:33 AM |
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Who the hell let Jericho wear a shirt tonight? 
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janerd75
Man of a Thousand Holds
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"Dawg, you got doodoo on yo foot." - R-Truth
Please bear in mind he hit that line soon after Goldust just slipped his foot into a toilet. Please let them be a tag team, Vince.
Please.
Stories change culture. Sports lets you feel temporarily adjacently victorious. - Foxcalibur
He's "unknown" only in the bizzaro-verse kayfabe fuckface wonderland where WWE doesn't want to admit ROH/TNA/Japan even exist. -
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Count Zero
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I agree with what he ^^^^^ said in tiny print. This tag team is....... I don't even know. It just IS. It needs to be.
eta: OMG... Sign of the month: "If Roman Wins, We Complain Online".
eta2: "What's fan-fiction?" 
[Edited on 2-2-2016 by Count Zero]
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Big Bank Hank
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quote:
Originally posted by janerd75
I dunno why, but the Uso's entrance reminds me this. (Language warning)
Dude, wut te FUCK is wrong wit you?
5 bananas, 7 bananas. No no no no no nowdn-wnv bananan
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janerd75
Man of a Thousand Holds
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So, so, so many things, but at least now you have a new reason to be excited aboot an Usos entrance. 
Stories change culture. Sports lets you feel temporarily adjacently victorious. - Foxcalibur
He's "unknown" only in the bizzaro-verse kayfabe fuckface wonderland where WWE doesn't want to admit ROH/TNA/Japan even exist. -
Pad L. Foot
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Ortonmustdie
And I am AWESOME
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quote:
Originally posted by janerd75
So, so, so many things, but at least now you have a new reason to be excited aboot an Usos entrance.
If nothing else, now you have a new earworm that will pop into your head at the worst times....
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