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posted on 2-8-2016 at 10:53 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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WWE.com has confirmed the news.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/daniel-bryan-announces-retirement-28665119


I think this now deserves its own thread? Modsquad to the rescue?



i hope this is the greatest work in the history of works. i'm pretty sure it's not, but i -really really really- want to be wrong.

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posted on 2-8-2016 at 11:27 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Here's my own personal hope that Bryan is happy and healthy; grateful for his years of service, but would love to still have him around so long as he's able to do what he does so well in a safe manner that lets him to continue to enjoy life for many years when he decides to hang 'em up.

In saying that; the guy did just do a spot for Tide during the Superbowl. Now if it were me I'd point out that Tide isn't exactly a nothing company; and Bryan's not really the face of the WWE, or has that cross over appeal.... heck he's a year removed TV.... So it's kinda curious the timing and all..... Yeah it was a twitter spot (I think?), but still.... seems a bit too big for a guy of Bryan's rank in the company. Carrying on with that; his twitter comments seem kinda out of place against today's breaking news.... the doctors and WWE met with him on a Saturday, or Sunday?

I dunno; it's one of those things where it could go either way; shoot or legit; but there do seem to be some big threads just waiting to be pulled on sitting out there.

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posted on 2-8-2016 at 11:42 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Hall Of Famer? He was only in WWE for about four years and was an indie darling before that. He accomplished quite a bit in those four years, so I assume he gets in. And if so, do you put him in immediately at this year's Wrestlemania?
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posted on 2-8-2016 at 11:54 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Will he go in to the WWE HOF? Yes.

Should it be this year? Mabey?

On the one hand he is a sure fire bet...on the other...Sting is a pretty big name. Both Sting and Bryan are big enough to be headliners.

And yes anybody who won a WM main event is a sure fire HOF...with one exception for obvious reasons.

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posted on 2-9-2016 at 12:22 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Here's reaction from some WWE superstars. Worth noting this was WWE.com conducting the interviews, not an independent source like TMZ.

http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2016/2/8/10943436/watch-chris-jericho-becky-lynch-wwe-stars-talk-daniel-bryan-retirement-video

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posted on 2-9-2016 at 12:24 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Will he go in to the WWE HOF? Yes.

Should it be this year? Mabey?

On the one hand he is a sure fire bet...on the other...Sting is a pretty big name. Both Sting and Bryan are big enough to be headliners.

And yes anybody who won a WM main event is a sure fire HOF...with one exception for obvious reasons.


No question he's a HOFer. Beyond the fact that everyone who has ever wrestled will eventually get in (except Chris Benoit...and Jeff Jarrett), he main evented a Wrestlemania and won pretty much every available belt. So his plaque should fit in nicely next to Koko B. Ware's.

My guess is he shouldn't go in now. They sold out the Hall of Fame and WWE is running out of headliners, so there's no need to rush. I hated that they immediately put Edge in because there was no time to miss him/let him recollect on his own career. Maybe they worry he'll be elsewhere a year or two from now, but everyone eventually circles back. It would be a bit much to have him do two huge speeches in a two month span.

BTW, I figure we'll eventually make this into a favorite moments thread...so wanted to add one of my favorite underrated one's of his...from Saturday Morning Slam, when they weren't allowed to punch each other...so Daniel Bryan turned into a ball.

View post on imgur.com


Full Match


Tyson Kidd vs Daniel Bryan - Saturday Morning... by Wrestlingfan122

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posted on 2-9-2016 at 07:43 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
That match belongs on his eventual compilation DVD set: "How to entertain a crowd for five solid minutes without throwing a punch." I am even more in awe of Mr. Daniel Bryan than I was before. To borrow a line from a cranky, bloated texan... HE IS A WRESTLING.... GOD!
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posted on 2-9-2016 at 08:33 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Will he go in to the WWE HOF? Yes.

Should it be this year? Mabey?

On the one hand he is a sure fire bet...on the other...Sting is a pretty big name. Both Sting and Bryan are big enough to be headliners.

And yes anybody who won a WM main event is a sure fire HOF...with one exception for obvious reasons.


Agreed 100%. The Miz should NEVER go in the HOF.

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Ya know, the thing about wrestling is that very few people "retire" and stay "retired". Not saying it doesn't happen - look at Austin and Edge as examples. But it wouldn't surprise me to see Bryan wrestle again - not for the WWE obviously, but I can imagine a scenario where the itch is too strong not to scratch and his no compete clause with the WWE has expired and he seeks the opinion of yet more docs who give the thumbs up.

I'm not saying I WANT to see him risk injury and wrestle again. I just wouldn't be surprised if he climbs through the ropes again.

ETA: Any idea what this "new test" that Bryan had done that convinced him to retire was? He said he had CAT scans and MRIs and visited neuro-psychologists. I wonder what this new test was that he spoke about was. Any medical folks on the bOOards have a clue?

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posted on 2-9-2016 at 04:28 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Although Bryan probably could wrestle somewhere else, I really hope he doesn't at this point. Hell, Ziggler has had a lot of concussions but is still in there, so something else must be going on for WWE to make Bryan hang up the boots. The last thing I want to see is for Bryan to emulate Kurt Angle and go so far past his expiration date that he turns into a danger to himself. That never stopped Undertaker either, but this seems different.

More emotionally, I bring up Kurt Angle again. I loved him in WWE, but watching him in TNA has never been the same other than his initial runs with Samoa Joe and AJ. TNA just isn't WWE, nor is any other promotion. Seeing Daniel Bryan in TNA, Lucha Underground, or even Japan really wouldn't work for me. I hope Vince has made it clear that WWE is home for him.

I'm bummed and saddened that Bryan has had to retire, but like most of you have said, this could be a happy day for him too, and for us. We don't have to read future reports of Bryan murdering his wife and kids. Hopefully we won't have to read about the premature deaths of him and Edge. For his own health, I'm happy for him.


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posted on 2-9-2016 at 04:30 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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ETA: Any idea what this "new test" that Bryan had done that convinced him to retire was? He said he had CAT scans and MRIs and visited neuro-psychologists. I wonder what this new test was that he spoke about was. Any medical folks on the bOOards have a clue?


I've been wondering that too. For all of the Daniel Bryan discussion currently going on around the Internet, I haven't seen any specifics other than "he had new testing done a few weeks ago and the results weren't good" (not to mention Bryan himself didn't go into specifics during his speech last night). Having zero knowledge on brain/medical stuff, I'm just wondering what this new test could have revealed that all of the previous ones he took didn't.

And I think 10 to 15 years down the road, Daniel Bryan is going to have a really unique and kinda weird place in WWE history, just due to how popular he got, the struggle between the WWE brass and the fans to see him get a big push, and then how quickly it was all cut short. I'm just hard-pressed to think of another wrestler who basically went from midcarder to the biggest thing in wrestling to retired all within the span of about three years.

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And I think 10 to 15 years down the road, Daniel Bryan is going to have a really unique and kinda weird place in WWE history, just due to how popular he got, the struggle between the WWE brass and the fans to see him get a big push, and then how quickly it was all cut short. I'm just hard-pressed to think of another wrestler who basically went from midcarder to the biggest thing in wrestling to retired all within the span of about three years.


The closest I can think of are HBK and Brock, but they both came back (although Brock was always upper card). Had they stayed away, then maybe they'd be in that category.

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posted on 2-9-2016 at 07:31 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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BTW, I figure we'll eventually make this into a favorite moments thread...so wanted to add one of my favorite underrated one's of his...from Saturday Morning Slam, when they weren't allowed to punch each other...so Daniel Bryan turned into a ball.


His SMS stuff was hilarious. He had a whole thing about bears he kept doing when he was on commentary. I had forgotten about that until he did a callback to it in one of the WWE behind the scenes YouTube videos that they shot last night. Apparently there's a bear video they shot back then that never saw the light of day and he wants people to see it.

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ESPN SportsCenter with Scott Van Pelt reported on Bryan's retirement and even aired the final yes chant. Yep, a Monday Night Raw highlight on Sportscenter:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:14746328

Should add that earlier in the show SVP paid tribute to Bryan with the footage of the Michigan State Spatran fans doing the yes chant:

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:14744594

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For those of you who missed last night:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KzD06Wpofw (albeit a shorter version, for whatever reason)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-z0NuXSO-Y

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posted on 2-9-2016 at 10:10 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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ETA: Any idea what this "new test" that Bryan had done that convinced him to retire was? He said he had CAT scans and MRIs and visited neuro-psychologists. I wonder what this new test was that he spoke about was. Any medical folks on the bOOards have a clue?



I don't want to pile on with speculation regarding Bryan's condition, but outside of the concussion issue, of which there are varying degrees of pass/fail betwixt his and WWE's doctors, the first thing that came to my mind as the problem was some kind of underlying neurodegenerative issue they discovered and that would be Parkinson's Disease. The ultimate causal factors for getting it aren't known, but there are strong indicators a genetic predisposition combined with whatever possible environmental factors may help trigger it. Bryan's triggers could have been every time his head struck the mat.

As for him only being 34, Michael J. Fox was diagnosed at 31. Muhammed Ali at 42. Though I believe Ali has Parkinsonism and pugilistic dementia (like Forrest Griffin in the UFC), which is vaguely less bad than the real deal, but you're really just comparing Granny Smith with Red Delicious apples at that point. I hope I'm wrong but it wouldn't surprise me to hear in the next few months or years him announcing he has it well after he takes time off for himself before that whirlwind of publicity starts up. Because given who Bryan is, I've no doubt he would fight the good fight like Fox does.

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I was thinking that maybe Brie gave him HIV, but I like your idea better.





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And I think 10 to 15 years down the road, Daniel Bryan is going to have a really unique and kinda weird place in WWE history, just due to how popular he got, the struggle between the WWE brass and the fans to see him get a big push, and then how quickly it was all cut short. I'm just hard-pressed to think of another wrestler who basically went from midcarder to the biggest thing in wrestling to retired all within the span of about three years.


He doesn't meet the "biggest thing in wrestling" criterion, but the first name that came to mind for me was Magnum TA.

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Not for nothing, but according to previous comments made by Bryan, his current contract expires in summer of 2018. As with AJ Lee, Bryan cannot wrestle for any other company until his current deal with the WWE expires. Therefore, if Bryan does decide he wants to wrestle again, he will have to wait two and a half years to do so.





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So will Daniel Bryan go down in history as the only guy who beat Super Cena and didn't have to give the win back?

While things can always change, I think Bryan will stay retired. Unlike Flair, he likely won't have money troubles, unlike Foley this isn't a whim, and he's been given time to make peace with it.

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And I think 10 to 15 years down the road, Daniel Bryan is going to have a really unique and kinda weird place in WWE history, just due to how popular he got, the struggle between the WWE brass and the fans to see him get a big push, and then how quickly it was all cut short. I'm just hard-pressed to think of another wrestler who basically went from midcarder to the biggest thing in wrestling to retired all within the span of about three years.


He doesn't meet the "biggest thing in wrestling" criterion, but the first name that came to mind for me was Magnum TA.


Ultimate Warrior?





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Samoa Joe's wrote a nice little send off to Bryan; It's nice to see that Bryan was held in such high regard, and really does seem to be a genuinely good guy behind the scenes as well.

Don't know how to link to twitter, but it's on Joe's twitter feed.

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DB's condition was/is way worse than he led anyone to believe. Yow!

http://www.dailywrestlingnews.com/video-daniel-bryan-admits-he-hid-seizures-talks-his-future-concussions-leaving-wwe-more/

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Bryan said they have been able to document 10 concussions but there�s no way to document every single concussion he�s had through out his near-16 year career. Bryan said it�s also hard to define a concussion but it�s impossible to say exactly how many he�s had. Bryan talked about taking multiple tests and they all came out great but these recent tests found he had some swelling and a lesion on an area of the brain that causes seizures. Bryan admitted he has had post-concussion seizures that he�s kept hidden for a long time. He said there has been no evidence on why he was having these seizures but now they know. Bryan talked about how important it is to stay on top of potential concussions and get them checked out.


This is, like, not good.





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That is very scary to read, and probably terrifying to have lived (be living?) through. Even more than ever, I wish him & Brie the best with family plans, and I hope one day they do a "look who's sitting ringside at raw!" and it's Old Man Bryan with his grandkids -- all having the best time you're allowed to have on tv.
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