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posted on 3-22-2016 at 12:04 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
OOfficial Discussion Thread for: RAW (March 21, 2016)

Tonight on RAW: for better or for worse, the WWE Title feud between Triple H and Roman Reigns will be the primary throughline... no Brock, no Taker, coin flip on whether Shane appears on camera or not (though he will be in the building), so at best, the other two prongs of WWE's three-headed Top of the Card fork will have to be dealt with indirectly... since Brock and Ambrose are already both slated for their showdown tomorrow on SmackDown, they could easily be left out of the equation, altogether (save for a hype video and a reminder that everybody should actually watch SD this week).... but you can't do the same for TWO WM32 matches, and expect to get away with it; Shane/Taker will require actual value-add of some kind, not just a FF-able video package...

While WWE will no doubt focus on HHH/Reigns, and seeing if there is anyway to undo the trainwreck of their own making that is Reigns' uber-face push to the title, tonight will also be a chance to establish whatever they're going to be doing with the IC Title....

A big multi-way, with Kevin Owens forced into a match against a slew of his recent thorns-in-his-side, seemed all but certain, but rumors surfaced last week of WWE considering last second changes to the card... Owens/Zayn as a one-on-one could be the new plan, or new personnel in the multi-way might be the play (due to Neville's injury)... I, personally, champion a move to "marry" the Owens/Zayn and Jericho/Styles feuds, so that those four are involved in a multi-way IC Title Scramble of some kind... after last week's SD (in which Styles called Owens a "jackass," but then Owens got a cheap win over Styles in the main event), it'd be as easy as getting Styles/Zayn in a tag match against Jericho/Owens, and then having Owens do his new trick of walking out on his tag partner, and VOILA~!, now Jericho hates Owens, too, while Styles hates Jericho AND Owens, and Zayn dislikes Owens, but hates no one because he's a happy-go-lucky nice guy... you can add Ziggler and one more (maybe Miz), if you want, and the ladder is optional...

Big Show might also still be in play for a multi-way, as he returned to "action" over the weekend on house shows.... I put "action" in quotes, because he was in tag matches with Kane, and didn't seem to do much.... the rumor was he injured a knee several weeks ago, and would be out of action for months, but this would suggest he's trying to tough it out to be available for WM, and might be a viable choice for any match in which he can be "hidden" be it a 6-way, or be it the Andre Battle Royale...

Speaking of which, the Andre Battle Royale was finally made official last week, but as of now, the only entrants are the Social Outcasts, so expect more to declare tonight.... Usos vs. Dudleys was also confirmed for the WM line-up, but it might be open to the addition of the Golden Truth, after an angle on SD; tonight should provide an indication on whether or not the Goldust/Truth team will be "ready" by WM32, or if they're on a trajectory to finally unite after WM... New Day vs. the League of Nations is pretty much ready to serve after last week's vicious beatdown, and the notion of the New Day being on the wrong end of the Numbers Game for the first time; while this does mean the tag titles are dormant for WM, it should still be a fun and compelling affair that doesn't require much additional work between now and WM... the women's title triple threat was an unexpected highlight of last week's SD, with Charlotte, Becky, and Sasha all getting to play to their individual strengths in a promo, before a compelling three-way brawl; again, only basic maintenance should be necessary for this one.... Kalisto/Ryback is happening, for the US Title, and while this presumably sets up Ryback for a last ditch push as a top heel, it might be more interesting to keep an eye on whether this is also somehow setting up a heel turn for Sin "How much more black could it be? None. The answer is none more black" Cara.... and who can forget that WWE is also planning a 6- or 8-woman Total Divas Showcase tag match (depending on whether Nattie and Eva Marie get added to the current configuration)? Oh right, we ALL would love to forget that, but WWE's forging ahead, anyway, in a last ditch effort to save said "reality" show even though ratings are half what they used to be for E! "network"....

Stan Hansen is the last member of the Class of 2016 for the Hall of Fame (as spoiled several weeks ago by a WWE magazine), and will probably be announced tonight.... that leaves this year's "celebrity wing" inductee to be announced next week, and as yet, WWE hasn't finalized that choice, though Regis Philbin (many guest spots at WrestleManias in the 80s and 90s) and Joan Lunden (partner with WWE in the breast cancer awareness biz) have been discussed....

That is all. End communication.

The flOOr is yours, OO Nation. Don't wait till after 11pm to post, either. Pre-show previewing and prognosticating is certainly welcome. So discuss, debate, and rate!

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posted on 3-22-2016 at 12:14 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I'd like to see this tonight on RAW. It would sure put some sizzle on the Bucky&Vince; (the Assholey Alliance?) vs StepHHH match..



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posted on 3-22-2016 at 12:23 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Apologies in advance, but bastardizing this space to quickly bring up...

The OO Fantasy Baseball League is back for 2016! All are invited, whether an OO vet or lurker or spam account. We like to get as many in there as possible, so give it a try.

Info is here: http://www.oowrestling.com/OOForums/viewthread.php?tid=31051

Free league and we try to do division play to make it interesting.


On the IC/US title front - was championing before they kinda set these matches that Owens-Zayn as one and multi-man as the other made a whole lot more sense than giving Ryback and Kalisto their own misplaced match on the show.

As much as I don't hate Ryback, you can't sleep on a guy with no storylines for most of the year and expect people to buy into his match at Mania. Wrestlemania is 4 hours, so playing the numbers game, I'd rather have 3 matches including the AJ-Jericho stuff than combine things (although Rick's idea will probably create one hell of a match).

It feels like the guys getting left out of the main card who WWE wants to get on it are Ziggler and Miz, and they're pretty easy to lump in there with Ryback-Kalisto as "smaller-types" that Ryback is focusing on. Would definitely make for a better match on that end, and Ryback knocking off all-3, including some veterans, would make it more impressive (and maybe a slight bit less obvious of a result.)

[Edited on 3-21-2016 by S Kid J E T S 48]

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posted on 3-22-2016 at 12:52 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I'm beginning to think more and more that Ziggler will factor into the championship match at Mania.

Is that a waste of his talent? Yeah. He'd do well in whatever spot-fest-y match they wanted to run.

But his constant headbutting with the Authority....
...the presumed "Vince and Steph/HHH are on the same side since Shane is the common enemy"


..this would be a way for him to get back at them and in so doing help Shane out (or further explain a UT loss).

HHH looks to get himself involved in the match by doing something to Shane.....and Ziggler neutralizes that by taking out HHH.

Or something.





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posted on 3-22-2016 at 01:06 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Who was that "in memoriam" for? I didn't recognize the person/name.





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No idea what the connection is, but after a google search...this seems to be her.

http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article67261127.html



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Their desire to make AJ Styles vs. Kevin Owens old before they actually get to pay it off on a PPV is admirable...or whatever the complete opposite word is.

[Edited on 3-22-2016 by S Kid J E T S 48]

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posted on 3-22-2016 at 01:18 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Neat. Team BOO-EIGNS or Team BOO-PHANIE anyone?

quote:
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I'm beginning to think more and more that Ziggler will factor into the championship match at Mania.



If this happens, I will find you. I will thank you.

Reigns what now? Fuck that noise, it's time for Owens/A.J.





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quote:
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No idea what the connection is, but after a google search...this seems to be her.

http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article67261127.html

I'm presuming the guy in the picture with her is employed by the Titan Sports Empire in some fashion... uncle, dad, grandpa, etc. This is -total- speculation, however. Just logicking I done by m'self.

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..this would be a way for him to get back at them and in so doing help Shane out (or further explain a UT loss).

HHH looks to get himself involved in the match by doing something to Shane.....and Ziggler neutralizes that by taking out HHH.
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If we're to believe in WWE Advanced Plans and Strategy (c):

Shane's opening promo two weeks ago talked about wrestlers who didn't deserve it being pushed and those with real talent being held back.

Assuming in order to qualify for that, you have to be on the WWE roster (only way it makes sense for an over pushed in the same realm as under pushed), what are the wrestlers who would qualify?

First would probably be Cesaro...second...Ziggler.

So....you could be on to something...

Again, if we believe in Advanced Plans and Strategy.

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The visual problem with RR is he dresses in black and looks the heel part. I know....overly simplistic but that's where it starts.

Otherwise how does his "shhhh" not bring down the house?





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posted on 3-22-2016 at 01:32 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
KO + AJ = OMGWTFBBQHDTV

That match... This is .. a phenomenal fight?

ETChangeVerbTense.

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posted on 3-22-2016 at 01:33 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by S Kid J E T S 48
No idea what the connection is, but after a google search...this seems to be her.

http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article67261127.html

I'm presuming the guy in the picture with her is employed by the Titan Sports Empire in some fashion... uncle, dad, grandpa, etc. This is -total- speculation, however. Just logicking I done by m'self.


She worked for bullhorn creative. Based off of this
http://bullhorncreative.com/branding-refresh/

It appears they work with the Roman Reigns character








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quote:
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She worked for bullhorn creative. Based off of this
http://bullhorncreative.com/branding-refresh/

It appears they work with the Roman Reigns character



Hmm. I figured that the old guy had to be involved too, otherwise they'da just used a solo picture of her. That was pretty much the extent of my logic. #secretsrevealed





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Today Canada, you were a bastard. Can't wait to see them do that agayn.





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Their desire to make AJ Styles vs. Kevin Owens old before they actually get to pay it off on a PPV is admirable...or whatever the complete opposite word is.



Scratch that. They won't let it get old.


Wow was that a match.

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Today Canada, you were a bastard. Can't wait to see them do that agayn.


To amend my previous equation, should we hope for:

AJ + KO + Y2J + (S + D + M^(i))Z = WM32

Double word score! Yahtzee!!!

My math teacher would be so proud of me right now.

[Edited on 3-22-2016 by Count Zero]





Originally posted by williamssl
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posted on 3-22-2016 at 01:44 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
If that were the entire uppercard of the WWE fighting over the Heavyweight Title instead of the I.C., I would not be displeased at all. Okay, you can add Ambrose and Braaaaaack too.

FUNKER!!!!

ETA: I hope BBMN was watching that to get more pointers on his sanding project.

[Edited on 3-22-2016 by janerd75]





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Ambrose's path to WrestleMania is starting to turn into some kind of Legend of Zelda/Castlevania/Metroid gear collecting thing. I'd almost hope he shows up with all of this stuff for the match.
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posted on 3-22-2016 at 01:47 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Now Main Eventing Wrestlemania:

A HOMICIDE!



No not you dammit.



[Edited on 3-22-2016 by S Kid J E T S 48]

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quote:
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Ambrose's path to WrestleMania is starting to turn into some kind of Legend of Zelda/Castlevania/Metroid gear collecting thing.
I realize that it's still early in the night, but I enjoy that videogame-style enough that I award you this week's Horn of Unicorn



Wear it with pride, good bOOardie!





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I know this is probably the height of nitpickery, especially since I'm enjoying Ambrose's build to 'Mania, but would it have killed them to have Funk give him the old branding iron? What, couldn't get clearance from the fire marshall to light it on fire inside the bar? Or are we supposed to imagine that Chainsaw Charlie was the most iconic stage of Terry Funk's career?





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Woohoo! I shall wear the horn with pride.

It's becoming increasingly weird to have Barrett around knowing he's headed out over the summer.

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quote:
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Their desire to make AJ Styles vs. Kevin Owens old before they actually get to pay it off on a PPV is admirable...or whatever the complete opposite word is.

Scratch that. They won't let it get old.


Wow was that a match.

I was going to comment on your first post. Is someone complaining about AJ/KO being on Raw? Complaining about one of the most entertaining matches they could throw out there for us? Glad to see they changed your mind.





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posted on 3-22-2016 at 02:24 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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No idea what the connection is, but after a google search...this seems to be her.

http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article67261127.html





Well the young lady's mother answered the question in the comments within the article you posted. Her father has been working for WWE for over 20 years.

I remember the WWF (yes it was the F back then) doing a little mention for one of the victims of the Columbine massacare (and in doing so neglecting to give a tribute to the only wrestler to appear on Raw and Nitro in the same evening, who died on that fateful day in April 1999).

In any event that was a nice tribute from Vince and company.

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posted on 3-22-2016 at 02:33 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Fandangostein... IT'S AAALIIIIIIIVE!

ETA: who actually reads articles anyway? Jeez. That's, like... Reading is hard, mmkay? #iwuzrite

[Edited on 3-22-2016 by Count Zero]





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