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posted on 5-9-2016 at 10:04 PM
Stupid anonymous posting ate my original reply. Oh well. Short take:
1) Yeah, I don't really get the idea of using money to cross the border, either. Not in a zombie world.
2) I like how the actual border wall is being used in the last couple episodes. When you think about it, it really does safeguard you a fair bit, at
least from one direction, when you've got a 900 mile (or whatever) reinforced twenty feet wall already in place.
3) I laughed at the badguy kid asking the daughter, "Do you trust me?!?!" I mean, it's not bad writing. It's just silly how naive he
is in thinking that a girl he's talked to once and who he essentially kidnapped after attacking her family...How she'd somehow be all
Stockholm Syndrome'd out hours after it all happened.
4) The son who killed the dude with the bar in his torso? Yeah, that kid is going to create a lot of trouble soon in how he's going batshit
insane. He might even be the first family member to die. I mean, you gotta figure at least one of them must die this season, right?
5) Overall, a good episode. You see folks coming together a bit more as a cohesive group. I'd say on a personal 0-5 scale, it's about a
3. Maybe a 3.5 if I'm in a generous mood. Nothing that you'll likely remember, but nothing you wished you could forget.
[Edited on 5-9-2016 by Quentil]
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The latest episode is probably my favorite of the season. The whole worshipping the dead thing is a bit whatever, but I like the situation they are
in, and the fallout that's about to happen once the mother lady sees her kid with a bullet in the head. I like the setting, the little church
kids scene was kind of brutal. They didn't show the one girl getting her head cleaved, but I still flinched a bit when it happened, heh.
I'm not really sure if Nick is playing the old hispanic lady or not with his questions about the dead. I want to think he's smarter than
believing such a thing, but we'll see.
The little girl Zombie that Nick had to cleave. That scene with the zombie kids was probably one of my top 5 scenes from the series overall. It was
just well done, in my opinion.
[Edited on 5-17-2016 by Quentil]
[Edited on 5-24-2016 by Quentil]
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posted on 5-17-2016 at 06:45 AM
God, I hate Chris.
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posted on 5-17-2016 at 06:59 AM
Aww man, Thomas didn't get one more chance to...
Overall, I thought this episode was the tits. Probably the best of the series so far for me even though I figured they'd go through with it and
show the turn't kid getting cleaved. They went with a more psychological horror motif what with Daniel, Chris, and Nick having their pasts come
back to haunt them in one way or another. Nick's starting to grow on me so I hope he's playing abuela and not considering his first church
experience with the biters as any kind of sign or transcendent experience. Daniel, former paramilitary torturer that he was, got to revisit an old
kill memory as he pieced together what was really going on at the compound. Good stuff.
Things don't look too good for Chris and his budding serial killer ways starting to break through. He might be the best "Look at the flowers"
candidate so far among his group. Best keep his damn hands off Hot Daughter #1 though.
I fully anticipate Mama Loca unleashing the undead at some point on our group as payback for not letting Thomas, uh, live on as an undeadite. If only
they had heeded Coop's advice...
Line of the series thusfar: �If a woman says �come with me�, and doesn�t tell you where she�s going, she�s taking you to Jesus. It�s always Jesus.� -
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posted on 5-23-2016 at 07:12 AM
So I guess when people go to Mexico everything takes a severe left-turn, all that was established gets tossed out the window, and everyone starts
behaving like they've been drugged into insanity? I do not understand. I'm wondering if there's an imminent cancellation coming and
they just went "Bah, let's do the batshit to wrap it up".
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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posted on 5-23-2016 at 06:11 PM
That was incredibly bad, and even more disappointing given that the show had seemingly and finally found a good groove over the past couple episodes
leading into this. It's as if they had a drawing where some fan/ winner got to write the midseason finale, and produced this shit.
Where to begin.....
Salazar...... We knew he had a past and he seemingly had an ongoing struggle with it, but it went from simmer to full boil there. If this was
the path with him, this should have been much more in the forefront, at least through S2, so that it was a "finally pushed over the edge" thing
instead of a "WTF that escalated quickly." I have to assume he's dead as he was standing in the middle of the fire he set which got really
big really fast, but it's TV so maybe he has some scratches and first degree burn. It would be a shame if he got written off, but then again,
if last night's show was a more realistic view of what the future of the show holds, then good for him for getting out now.
Nick.... He has what, 2-3 conversations with Celia and suddenly he's an acolyte or something? His decision to not leave with his family
and stay behind and walk among the walkers was....crazy.
Travis is now tied with Chris as "most punchworthy" on the show.
On a positive note, Madison showed some ooomph when she locked Celia in with the zombies.
The show ends with folks split into 3 groups, 4 if somehow Salazar is still alive:
Strand, Madison et al
Travis and Chris
Nick
Salazar (????)
Which means we're going to potentially end up like WD where whole shows focus on one group. I'm going to "accidentally" erase the one
that focuses on Travis and Chris.
Out of all the season/midseason finales between TWD and FTWD, this one is by far the one that has me giving the least shits about what happens next
and thus best case completely indifferent to tuning in when it resumes.
I need to watch the Preacher debut I have on TiVo. Hoping that's good.
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posted on 5-23-2016 at 06:17 PM
Them all behaving like that spontaneously over the last two episodes came out of nowhere. Unless Celia was putting something in their food to make
them all go nuts at the same time it doesn't have the slightest bit of logic to it, and runs counter to practically every bit of character
development from the beginning of season one.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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posted on 5-23-2016 at 06:26 PM
I've read the "Celia putting stuff in their food" thing on a few sites as potential explanation, but there were a few folks who didn't
go all cray-cray though:
Strand (although you could argue she didn't need to poison his food because the poison wafer was supposed to take care of him)
Alycia
Ofelia
Anyhow...garbage. Just garbage. Which wouldn't have been as surprising and disappointing had the past couple episodes not been good and
seemingly pointed to the show finally getting on track and finding itself.
I've got nothing else to say about it. Well, until someone inevitably posts about how they liked it and it was a strong showing and what not.
Then I'll unleash.
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posted on 5-23-2016 at 06:56 PM
Having them continue at sea for at least a half season could have had a lot of potential to it. Seriously. Dead Sea. Avoiding marauders and reavers.
Going ashore for supplies. Some kind of contact with the US Navy. Encountering something like a cruise ship full of zombies but they have to go aboard
anyway to save someone/take something. Even the WWE writers could have pulled it off easily. Going on land for some kind of poorly thought-out surreal
Robert Rodriguez type of Mexican adventure though has been nothing short of terrible. I know the main show can do some odd and unpalatable things but
they've never done anything to self-sabotage the entire flow of the show the way FTWD has done in the last two episodes. I don't know if
they can recover from this because if the second half of the season continues on the same track then the show is going to finish up it's second
season as horribly as something like The Strain did.
I'm wondering if there's some kind of fight in the background with Kirkman and the producers and the wrong creative vision won out. Aside
from maybe going back all the way to the second season of Star Trek TNG for bad genre TV, and they at least had the 1988 writer's strike as an
excuse for it, I haven't seen a show collapse so quickly within the space of a couple of episodes as badly as FTWD has this month.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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posted on 5-23-2016 at 07:40 PM
Maybe we get a Dallas-esque "Pam sees Bobby in the shower and realizes the entire past season has all been a dream" thing that takes us back to the
beginning of season 2 and we do exactly what you just said.
Someone had a dream at Strand's house or just when they got on the boat and they wake up when Strand makes the call that they need to leave the
house NOW or people are trying to board the boat. Sad to say....but I'd be ok with a S2 H1 mulligan.
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posted on 5-24-2016 at 07:48 AM
That episode was so fucking bad. Just so full of stupid. I really don't think I'm coming back when the season returns. Really bad. I
don't care about any of these idiots anymore.
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I was kind of bored earlier in the season and then it started getting sorta good (but not great) but I just watched these last two episodes tonight
and what the fuck happened? God damn that was awful.
So many questions about idiots doing idiot things but why the heck would that lady walk into the zombie cage and turn her back to the blond chick who
had acces to the door and the fecking key? Before these past two episodes I hated Chris. Now I hate everyone but Strand and possibly the two young
chicks.
Why does it say I'm "never not logged in" but every time I try to post, I have to log back in?
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1) if you have the OO main page or OO forums saved in your favourites/bookmarks delete both of them
2) search OO via Google or whatever it is you use
3) go to the OO main page when your search brings up Online Onslaught then click on the forums tab
4) save the OO forums in your favourites again
5) log in again as normal
The same thing's happened to me several times, both on older and newer computers. I suspect there's something about some of the Windows
updates that doesn't like an older saved OO bookmark for some reason. Deleting the old bookmarks and starting afresh every once in a while is
the only way I know, courtesy of someone here who told me how to do this several years ago, of getting back in without having to log in again every
time.
ETA: did anyone else notice that the zombies just looked wrong too? Up until now the walkers looked the way they do in the main show or the newer
Romero films. The last two eps looked like they were half-assing it in make-up and FX, like they'd changed effects crews or something and the
new guys didn't know (or care) to do it to the existing standard. Maybe it was a cross-border thing where they had to use Mexican industry crew
in some kind of an association or film union deal and they just didn't know what to do.
So much going wrong in such a short period of time. I really want this show to make it, and it probably will on name recognition alone even without
me. But if there isn't a noticeable upturn in quality in the second half of the year I won't be returning to it either. Zombie-genre is
inexplicably one of my favourite ones but that doesn't mean I'll accept anything and be insulted by it.
[Edited on 5/24/2016 by Paddlefoot]
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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I can't say much about the finale other than it continues my general belief that Walking Dead (in general) is very good at starting (half)
seasons, but very mediocre about tying them together at the end. General thoughts follow in no particular order:
1) I liked the Mexican death cult lady being locked in with the zombies. That was the highlight of the episode for me.
2) Chris turning into a homicidal maniac? I like the concept of turning one of the kids crazy as a result of it all. It makes a ton of sense that
someone would crack and crack badly. The execution and rapid nature of it sort of sours the basic idea of it though.
3) Nick being a death cult follower who feels the zombies can't hurt him or whatever? Yeah, that was sort of dumb. But it's original,
I'll give them that. I think it's more annoying for me on a personal level because Nick was developing into one of my favorite characters
because of his ability to change with the situation. Let's hope it's only for an episode or two before he snaps out of it. Also, DOES he
just keep a bucket of zombie guts around at all times to cover himself with? I think someone mentioned it earlier, and it's pretty hilarious.
4) Daniel was my favorite character, and he sort of just went batshit insane our of the blue as well. If he's dead, I'll miss him. I
kind of hope that he is, because this episode sort of ruined him for me a bit as a character. I didn't mind his interactions with the cult
lady, but the ending was kind of wtf.
5) Strand I'm actually okay with still. I like Strand. He'll get a pass from me on this episode because he didn't really do
anything out of character or overly stupid.
6) The mother I think is a character I like and am invested in. Locking that door behind the cult lady cemented her as being that for me even
more.
7) Who else is there? Oh, the daughters. I really don't have much either way to say about them. Daniel's daughter seems to be better
suited to the new world, but the other one (Alicia, I guess) has been hit or miss for me. But there's enough hits to make me give her a shrug
and a pass into the next half-season without too much care. She's the Beth of the show for me.
Overall for the half-season? I liked the pirate episodes, and the one where they met the Ranger family was decent. The last episode was not as good,
and the churchgoer zombie scene when they arrived in Mexico is still one of my favorites of the series overall. The idea that they all went crazy
because of some delayed PSTD to end the half season sort of fizzled in execution, even if it looked plausible and good in theory.
I'll watch it when it come on again. I mean, this show isn't great, but it's no Under the Dome in suck, either.
I have a feeling when I get around to watching them all again, I'll probably enjoy them more. The same thing happened with season one.
[Edited on 5-24-2016 by Quentil]
[Edited on 5-26-2016 by Quentil]
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posted on 5-24-2016 at 06:22 PM
I am with all of you guys. WTF? Not much left to add... same thoughts about most all of the characters. I was loving the "junkie turned survivalist"
idea, but why did he have to become all born again? Is this because he was feeling given up on by those around him, and now he feels everyone is
giving up on the zombies?? I dunno. Nothing makes sense here.
And yea, there was a lot left to explore on the sea. The ideas of running into the Navy or a FUBAR cruise ship are both excellent. Perhaps budget
constraints make these difficult, but still I keep feeling like there is so much potential insanity being ignored in this show. Hell imagine if they
were able to rent out a retired Navy submarine for an episode... So much potential and so much WTF.
[Edited on 5-24-2016 by BBMN]
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quote:Originally posted by Paddlefoot
1) if you have the OO main page or OO forums saved in your favourites/bookmarks delete both of them
2) search OO via Google or whatever it is you use
3) go to the OO main page when your search brings up Online Onslaught then click on the forums tab
4) save the OO forums in your favourites again
5) log in again as normal
The same thing's happened to me several times, both on older and newer computers. I suspect there's something about some of the Windows
updates that doesn't like an older saved OO bookmark for some reason. Deleting the old bookmarks and starting afresh every once in a while is
the only way I know, courtesy of someone here who told me how to do this several years ago, of getting back in without having to log in again every
time.
ETA: did anyone else notice that the zombies just looked wrong too? Up until now the walkers looked the way they do in the main show or the newer
Romero films. The last two eps looked like they were half-assing it in make-up and FX, like they'd changed effects crews or something and the
new guys didn't know (or care) to do it to the existing standard. Maybe it was a cross-border thing where they had to use Mexican industry crew
in some kind of an association or film union deal and they just didn't know what to do.
So much going wrong in such a short period of time. I really want this show to make it, and it probably will on name recognition alone even without
me. But if there isn't a noticeable upturn in quality in the second half of the year I won't be returning to it either. Zombie-genre is
inexplicably one of my favourite ones but that doesn't mean I'll accept anything and be insulted by it.
[Edited on 5/24/2016 by Paddlefoot]
Thanks. I'll check it out but 99% of the time I'm online it's on my phone.
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quote:Originally posted by williamssl
I've got nothing else to say about it. Well, until someone inevitably posts about how they liked it and it was a strong showing and what not.
Then I'll unleash.
Well I liked it...until I let it sink in and then read some of youse louses posts and now I'm neutral to negative on the whole shebang. Note to
self: Don't invite surly jerkasses to your head movie party.
Daniel: I think what bummed me out the most was rock-solid former killer Daniel going off the rails so quickly. That they used the
"hallucinating dead people" conceit from the mothershow pissed me off the most because it was unearned. Rick lost his goddamned mind after his wife
was was gutted and killed by their son. Daniel, while they WWE writer-style dropped a hint or two that not only was he a former Salvadorian
gov't enforcer and was having some difficulty coming to terms with what he had done way back in the day and then WHAMMO, crazytown. Skip ahead,
skip ahead the 'realist' guy among the group other than Strand decides to save his daughter by burning the whole goddamn place down after
a 'that escalated quickly' talk with his dead wife? "This place is haunted and I need to save my daughter. I better light
everything on fire." Shit ending to a great character if he did go out with Celia and the rest of the walkers.
Nick: I get the junkie thing and the backsliding and getting taken in by a more powerful personality in Celia, but fuck's sake everything
I began to like about him went out the window when he did his own 'that escalated quickly' and told Madison he couldn't be harmed
and doesn't fear death. And I'd really like to know where he's hiding the Gut Goo Bag O'Convenience that he can just jump into
on a whim for his missions.
Chris and Travis: Again, this seems like a WWE writer thing where they brought up a character trait, didn't develop it, and then BOOM!
when it's needed it's all of a sudden the most important thing about them. Playing Devil's Advocate, yeah, they showed him having
trouble ganking that non-zombie guy in the wrecked plane and then shooting that guy in the face on the Abagail. But his leap to full throttle
potential Serial Killer, Jr. Shabadoo self-loathing was a bit of a stretch. Which is goddamn frustrating given the amount of time they had to
establish his character motivations when in actuality they only payed lip service to it until the supposed ZOMG! zany freakout necessary to move the
process along. Dunno, but I think at least one or both of them is on the chopping block for a "shocking" death at the finale. Hey Trav, nice work
out in the real world and away from the insular and theoretical academic cocoon, teach. Whatevs.
Alycia and Ofelia: The former basically got them in this situation with the pirate diversion and I'm not sure what the latter is there
for other than to provide her much more interesting father something to do. But, hot chicks, amirite?
Strand and Madison: Now that Nick reverted to junkie form or went off the rails or whatever, S and M are my go tos for reasonable behavior
and/or getting the fuck out of Dodge and not dicking around when all the tea leaves read bad times ahead. And despite Strand's protestations, I
think he sees her as a trustworthy friend of some importance to his overall survival and is (or will) come around to what she did to Celia.
Speaking of which, how the fuck did none of them hightail it outta there as soon as they discovered Celia was a crazy undead cult lady who was really
good at poisoning people? And how easy would it have been to have the writers make her peyote up their food to make them that much more suseptable to
the wacky religious hash she was slinging but also give a lot of the characters, especially Daniel, reasons for their erratic behavior?
TL;DR Tex is a stupidhead and used his mind control to make me dislike the mid-season finale.
ETA: Man, Nick really didn't like how it went down either.
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I was saving you from yourself. You're welcome.
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Two more minor things I was thinking about: I bet Ruben Blades (Daniel) only signed up for two seasons, that's why they just sharted him out
that quick after building him up. Makes no sense as all of that is set up in advance but then again, what happened didn't make sense either.
The other thing is did anyone smirk as Nick showered off all that blood while stil in his wife beater and got his white shirt looking like new again?
Jeez, Louise.
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quote:Originally posted by CVD39
The other thing is did anyone smirk as Nick showered off all that blood while stil in his wife beater and got his white shirt looking like new again?
Jeez, Louise.
Yup
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Was really looking forward to this show as I had originally enjoyed TWD so much (although at times it seemed WWE writer monkeys replaced some scripts
with their own handiwork)... but honestly if this show didn't come back from midseason or after the season ends, I wouldn't really care.
So much potential.....so little actually done
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I think they've already been approved for a season three. Unless the writing improves that means another season of increasing badness until
it's as wretched as The Strain or Shannara were. Not good, and Kirkman deserves a swift kick in the fat royalty-rich white ass if he's
going along with it and not doing anything to stop them.
I did a quick scan of the reviews for this season so far. Most at the beginning were saying "flawed, nowhere near as good as the main show, but lots
of potential if they can get on track". After the finale it was near unanimous "utter shit". How they could fuck up this badly after that
relatively good start, with the incredible scene of all of Los Angeles burning, is absolutely astounding.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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Well, it's back. It actually wasn't a bad episode for the most part. All-Nick wandering in the desert with adventures against cartel-type
goons, walkers, feral dogs, and panicky civilians. It was refreshing somewhat because the negative things that happened to him just happened on their
own, or because he was in the wrong place at the wrong moment, as opposed to the usual rushing off to do something idiotic that marked the first half
of the season. They used some minimal flashbacks to the past that didn't expand the character that much but didn't wreck him either;
apparently the source of his death-urge is his real dad getting killed in a car crash while Nick was in rehab and it messed him up even worse than his
addiction already had.
Focusing on the one character only, and the one least likely to do something really stupid just because, made for an alright show for the most part.
I'm still not on board with this quasi-mystical shit they're having the locals ascribe to the undead, mostly because it's cheap
peasant spirituality that to me seems too stereotypical and therefore insulting to Mexicans. But at least Nick seems to have fallen in with some
smarter folks that have their shit together for the most part. Still not perfect but a better start to the second half of the season than expected.
Maybe the vociferously negative reaction to the way the first half of the season ended smartened them up a bit. Regardless splitting the characters up
appears initially to be the right thing to do. By themselves or in a smaller group they can't encourage or amplify each other's flaws and
stupidity. If they can turn it around and have them come out of it a lot less goofy then maybe they can turn this show around by the time they all
meet up again.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
"This place is haunted and I need to save my daughter. I better light
everything on fire." Shit ending to a great character if he did go out with Celia and the rest of the walkers. 