BBMN
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| posted on 6-19-2016 at 03:15 PM |
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To me it's not a Team A for Team B topic. The MRAs are sometimes god awful pieces of garbage. The SJWs are sometimes garbage too. There's
too many members of each group for me to generalize them all, but there is a distinct difference between them.
SJWs (at least the most vocal members) tend to have this idea in place that is very much anti-freedom of speech. And I mean that in a very literal
sense. When given the choice between proving their ideology is correct, vs simply shutting down any dissenting voices, they generally (and loudly)
seem to choose the latter. They're entirely unable to express opinions on complex issues in an open and fair environment, without resorting to
the most base and anti-intellectual impulses of our primate grey matter. Yell! Scream! Pull a fire alarm! Call people names! Anything besides act like
an adult with a defendable position.
And this is what kills me, as a bit of a Lefty. I have spent my entire adult life learning to discuss and debate and defend my ideology, and these
children come in and demand "everyone shut the fuck up, because fuck you, shitlord."
It's peak anti-intellectualism and I can't fucking take this shit. The shittiest of the MRAs at least have self awareness.
I struggle to keep my mouth shut online with this shit. On Facebook the other day a friend (very nice, cool, young black female) got into an argument
with one of her friends over the confederate flag. They went at it ALL DAY. After like 70+ replies I interjected. Her opponent (young white male) said
that the Civil War was not about slavery. I posted a series of quotes taken directly from Confederates, and from their (states') declarations of
secession, that showed how blatantly uninformed he was. His response? Nothing. He took his ball and went home defeated.
Her response - "I guess he might have listened to me if I was also a white male, but he couldn't do that since I'm a black female."
I was so close to replying "Actually he was forced to concede the argument because I posted factually accurate information that holds true no matter
the gender or ethnicity of who presents it. My ethnicity and genitals had nothing do with if my post was valid or not, likewise for him. The notion
that I was gifted a "win" here is insulting to my understanding of American history, and my ability to simply engage in basic discourse sans
identity politics. He lost the argument not because of anyone's identity. He lost because he was shown to be wrong with facts."
I didn't post it... because I would be the bad guy for daring to explain how facts work. Probably would've pissed her off for good and
been called a mansplainer... By someone I largely side with.
I give up....
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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| posted on 6-19-2016 at 03:43 PM |
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Gamergate is probably the biggest example of not trying to defeat a genuine social ill but of attacking someone simply because they don't like
the harmless way in which they enjoy themselves, that they have to be "shamed" into becoming what the hard left thinks is a better person. I'm
not a gamer so it doesn't affect me in the slightest but AFAIK those guys were perfectly content in their silly little world of martial arts
combat games where they could make up characters with adjustable breast sizes. More bounce, less bounce to the titties, whatever. Do what you like if
it floats your boat, trilby, as long as you're not out physically attacking real women.
That these guys were even aware of feminist games is doubtful, and irrelevant. They weren't the ones that said "no, you can't play any
videogames that might hurt my feelings!". All I know is all of a sudden they felt they were under attack by intruders who were saying exactly that,
that some SJW's out there appointed themselves game-thought-police, and began telling them what they could play and that their games had to
reflect basically campus feminism's idea of what an acceptable type of fun is. These guys got angry and, with a hell of a lot of them being
4chan and Reddit types, they fought back hard and they fought back dirty. Yes, what some of them did with the doxxing of their opponents, and sending
death threats and such, was way over the top. The fact remains though that they were quite content in their own little world and resented it badly
when the SJW's got in their faces. They didn't start the fight but they brought the hammer down when someone brought the fight to them.
That's the thing with the SJW's right there. They're on a grand moral crusade to build what they consider to be a utopia. And,
pretty much just the temperance types of a hundred and forty years ago, they're not above using shaming tactics and thought policing to do it.
Back then it was "Jesus hates you for drinking, bad man", today it's "you're a racist/facist/cis-shitlord for playing big-boobed video
games, and WE will make you pay for violating our safe spaces". SJW is actually entirely inaccurate of a term to use with them. They aren't
interested in social justice of any sort. They're just another totalitarian cult that's granted itself the limitless right to police
behaviour they don't approve of. For as stupid and shitty and lame as a lot of those guys are, Gamergate was vitally important because it was
the first time in a long time that someone took a hard shot back at the SJW's and made them back the fuck off. They have to be fought because if
they aren't there's that much more freedom, even if it's small silly freedoms, that are lost to them and their no-fun-allowed
utopianism.
[Edited on 6/19/2016 by Paddlefoot]
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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Chris Is Good517
Best There Is Was or Ever Will Be 
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| posted on 6-19-2016 at 09:29 PM |
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That's not even remotely what Gamergate was about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamergate_controversy
Monday Night Flaw, a podcast about professional wrestling starring OO's own
Figure Foreskin as Andy the Smarmy Host and Chris Is Good517 as Cousin Balki.
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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| posted on 6-19-2016 at 09:53 PM |
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That's the stock answer. It started with the alleged biased reviews and moved on from there. Other reports since stated that the Japanese game
producers won't sell some of their games in North America. Japan doesn't have the same issue at home with the graphic and hardcore games
they make but it's too much of a hassle for them to try to sell them in the US because of censorship laws. There was also recently where a major
US game company parted ways with female developer, if I recall correctly, because not only was she trying to excessively censor the games they were
making but also because she'd been some kind of advocate for "artistic expressions" of pedophilia in her activities outside of work. She was
on GG's target list because of this, that she was censoring their pastime while engaging in a much more serious violation of her own.
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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BBMN
HAVES A CROOKED DICK!! !
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| posted on 6-20-2016 at 12:41 AM |
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You're referring to some lady that worked for Nintendo named Allison Rapp.
I can track down the article, but pulling from memory, it appears that dudes decided that she was the blame for censoring/altering content on Japanese
games being imported and released stateside. There was no proof it was her. In fact, her work in college showed that she fully understood that the
Japanese market/culture was vastly different from ours, and argued that it should be respected and left unaltered.
So that's fucking amazing. She fought for not censoring content, and was labled as the main person behind content being censored, was doxed,
threatened by NAZIS, and Nintendo eventually had enough of the fucking headache and let her go, despite appearing to the last person to blame.
Wonderful. It appears that all the attention shown on her exposed her working a second job (perhaps a dancer), which was the stated reason she was let
go. Of course none of this would've come to light if a bunch of obsessed dudes had actually understood what she was doing (or rather not doing)
at her gaming job.
The pedo attack is 100% pure insanity and a page straight outta the SJW handbook. She was arguing against games like Fire Emblam Fates having their
content altered. Said content by Japanese standards was normal. By ours it was a bit much.... teen girls were fairly sexualized and she apparently
argued for that to remain in the game.
She had apparently posted some contradictory tweets about men liking teen girls, but I can't know what she was getting at without knowing the
full context. None of this would've been an issue if the guys in charge of attacking her, had simply understood that she was more or less on the
side of not changing Japanese games to fit into Western culture. Fucking embarrassing.
Here it is - http://kotaku.com/nintendo-employee-terminated-after-smear-campaign-over-1768100368
[Edited on 6-19-2016 by BBMN]
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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| posted on 6-20-2016 at 03:05 AM |
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Thanks for the elucidation. I read the same article but forgot most of the details. Like I said I'm not a gamer so most of the terms and a lot
of what turned GG into such a shitstorm was alien to me because on the surface it looks like just a bunch of nerds who take videogames way too
seriously barking at each other. It just seemed, with the way Gawker/Jezebel took the lead in defending Sarkeesian/Wu/Quinn and went after the other
side of GG that there was some kind of censorship in the air because it's not like Nick Denton's hellish little empire of snark
doesn't have a pretty vicious attitude of their own towards their ideological enemies. Jezebel, for example, is all but openly in favour of
getting rid of the investigative/trial portions of the law and proceeding directly to sentencing when it comes to sexual assault accusations so I
think I'm fairly safe in describing them as one of the more open examples of the totalitarian mindset. Even after the UVA/Rolling Stone debacle
from last year blew up in their faces they're still at it with the same malignant ferocity.
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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merc
Showstopper
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| posted on 6-20-2016 at 11:26 PM |
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So my iPad won't open page 1, too much memory use. Janerd found a way to silence me. 
What is a MRA? I ask with a straight face (I looked up SJW btw).
They are called "letters" when put together they make "words". Words make moving photos unnecessary.
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janerd75
The Rowdy One
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| posted on 6-20-2016 at 11:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by merc
So my iPad won't open page 1, too much memory use. Janerd found a way to silence me.
What is a MRA? I ask with a straight face (I looked up SJW btw).
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=MRA
http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/magnetic-resonance-angiogram-mra
https://youtu.be/hOxaZBJQdv0
 
#Denial
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