LoveMuscle
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quote:
Originally posted by janerd75
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Originally posted by LoveMuscle
I was only halfway paying attention to the announcers hyping NXT, but I could have swore Byron Saxton called him "Shitstain Nakamura". I had to do a
double-take.
I thought my...tendencies...made me hear that. I'm glad someone else has the sickness as well.
[Edited on 6-7-2016 by janerd75]
I hope we didn't just give someone an idea for a new character ... if a guy named Shitstain Stevenson shows up in TNA soon, we'll never
hear the end of it.
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Paddlefoot
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Hey, what's Skidmarks Takahashi doing in the Impact Zone, Josh?!?!?!? 
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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janerd75
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quote:
Originally posted by LoveMuscle
quote:
Originally posted by janerd75
quote:
Originally posted by LoveMuscle
I was only halfway paying attention to the announcers hyping NXT, but I could have swore Byron Saxton called him "Shitstain Nakamura". I had to do a
double-take.
I thought my...tendencies...made me hear that. I'm glad someone else has the sickness as well.
[Edited on 6-7-2016 by janerd75]
I hope we didn't just give someone an idea for a new character ... if a guy named Shitstain Stevenson shows up in TNA soon, we'll never
hear the end of it.
Well, in that case they could call him Brother Neg...
�If only Africa had more mosquito nets, then every year we could save millions of mosquitoes from dying needlessly of A.I.D.S.� - Jimmy Carr
As per Count Zero's lovely transciption:
Jericho: "You better watch it."
Owens: "Yeah? Watch what?"
Jericho: "...It."
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Jumbie
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Based on their exchanges in the ring tonight, I hope we get Kofi/AJ in a long match as part of this feud. Kofi as a singles competitor has been gone
too long.
[Edited on 6-7-2016 by Jumbie]
"I'm a team player."
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OORick
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quote:
Originally posted by Jumbie
Based on their exchanges in the ring tonight, I hope we get Kofi/AJ in a long match as part of this feud. Kofi as a singles competitor has been gone
too long.
Ummmm, you know SmackDown isn't this entirely new show coming to USA on July 19, right? It currently exists, and did that exact thing you said
last Thursday. [/hesaidwithlove]
Kinda liked the show tonight, despite the crutch of FF'able recap segments (if I already paid $9.99 for the privilege of seeing that Seth
Rollins special, why did I just have to watch it again for free on a Monday?)... good wrestling, and I'll second the notion that there seemed to
be a LOT of "hey, no scripts, we'll just point a camera at you, and trust that you'll come up with something that fits your character and
story," too.
This is a very good thing. Unless you are Teddy Long (who really did amuse me, even if he was kinda just repeating all his own greatest hits in a very
obvious writer-y sort of way). Or Randall Orton, on the cusp of a return.
Rick
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First 9
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"You couldn't even beat Roman Reigns, you expect to beat John Cena?"
That had to be ad-libbed by Cena, and I loved it. Cena's probably the one guy who'd get away with feuding against Reigns without
backhandely kissing his ass.
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Jumbie
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I noticed during the Jericho match (I think) the camera was doing a kind of periscope view of a rest hold from over the ring apron and right away it
felt fresh. So yeah, definitely some experimentation going on with the angles.
"I'm a team player."
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Jumbie
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quote:
Originally posted by OORick
\
Ummmm, you know SmackDown isn't this entirely new show coming to USA on July 19, right? It currently exists, and did that exact thing you said
last Thursday. [/hesaidwithlove]
Rick
I often just don't remember to watch. It'll be like 10:30 and I'll look up from my e-book or computer and realise, 'oh crap,
Smackdown was on.'
Was AJ/Kofi any good? Usually I'd check the OO report to see if it's worth tracking down, but SOMEONE's dropping the ball on those
and the front page doesn't show anything fresher that 2 weeks ago /healsosaidwithlove
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Frank Lloyd Wright
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I thought AJ held his own with Cena in that back and forth exchange. The line "you lose to Cena, you get buried", was brilliant yet true at the
same time.
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the goon
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quote:
Originally posted by Jumbie
Was AJ/Kofi any good?
I gave the match kudos for being a good main event in the Smackdown thread (which I think is normally inhabited by me and like two other people) last
week, so it's definitely worth a watch in my opinion.
quote:
Originally posted by Frank Lloyd Wright
I thought AJ held his own with Cena in that back and forth exchange. The line "you lose to Cena, you get buried", was brilliant yet true at the
same time.
I had to go re-watch that part on WWE.com for AJ's exact quote, but it was "Everybody who knows this place knows that once you wrestle John
Cena and lose, it's time to get out the shovels because guys like you bury guys like me." Definitely a brilliant line though and it's
kind of funny that that very topic was being discussed here recently.
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royberto
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quote:
Originally posted by Frank Lloyd Wright
I thought AJ held his own with Cena in that back and forth exchange. The line "you lose to Cena, you get buried", was brilliant yet true at the
same time.
Except that it actually made absolutely no sense in a kayfabe environment. In kayfabe, Why does Cena actually bury anyone? Because
he wins? It was really stupid on AJ's part.
quote:
Originally posted by Count Zero
"Dude, your jokes are as outdated as my jorts." OW. SICK BURN CENA!!!!
I mean that. He really -did- nail it.
add to that the line "You couldn't beat Roman Reigns and now you think you can beat me?" and I
agree, that was some of Cena's best work in awhile.
As for the opening segment, I loved it. Jericho was absolutely on fire. From "Stupid Idiotville" to "I know you are, but what am I?" to
"I'm from Winnipeg, you idiot!" all while sitting on top of the ladder in the most ridiculous way, it was glorious. You had Kevin Owens
destroy ADR's entire promo with "Ooh, Spanish". and Cesaro responding to Jericho's "Stupid Idiotville" with "So, that''s
the name of your hometown?". and Sami Zayn calling Jericho's bluff on his claim of winning the MITB before. It was awesome and hilarious.
[Edited on 6-7-2016 by royberto]
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Nobledictator1278
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AJ was at his best when he was talking about how he had been all over the world, and was selling out all over the world....but John Cena could only do
it here. But he did hurt himself hard with the comment about getting buried by Cena....it really didn't make sense in what they were trying to
accomplish.
It was like he was trying to serve internet fans....and do the wrestling schtick at same time...it doesn't work. If your going to pipe
bomb....you got to pipe bomb all the way not just part of it.
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Paddlefoot
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Apple.....Appleton......Big Apple.
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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Jumbie
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Can't be a coincidence they were playing ads for Red's Apple Ale.
CONFIRMED: Jericho is a shill for Big Apple.
"I'm a team player."
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First 9
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A lot of shit doesn't make sense if you try to think in kayfabe terms, it was line met to get a pop to people who would get it with enough faith
that AJ's delivery would carry it for people who didn't. The fact that Cena actually busted out the acting chops and bothered to sell it
says they all felt it was a great line.
If you want to kayfabe it, WWE like a lot of real fight promoters have their bread and butter and then there' just guys who are meant to be the
interchangeable foils. The company favorites can lose and still be featured while there's other guys who have their head above the water and are
just one or two losses from dropping down in stock because they don't have the outside influence a guy like Cena has.
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williamssl
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I have unilaterally decided that the AJ/Cena promo was good and that both individuals came off as very solid in it. The subject is now closed. If
you choose to continue the discussion, and especially if you don't share in this decision, you are doing so in vain and wasting your time and
should really reconsider your priorities and your life.
Carry on.
Don't Mess With Texas
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GodEatGod
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I enjoyed that segment with Xavier Woods on fire leading up to AJ having to snuff him out on the floor with the Styles Clash. I'm a big fan of
Woods and it was nice to see him get some shine. Presumably, him getting knocked out will lead to another six man next week, this time with Cena
filling in for Woods.
I'm a Reigns supporter, but the video packages definitely did him no favors. Rollins came off as selfish, yes, but determined and unapologetic.
Roman complaining about his family being there for his WM moment definitely seemed kind of entitled and bitchy.
More Breeze-Dango, please.
"It is an impressively arrogant move to conclude that just because you don't like something, it is empirically not good. I don't like
Chinese food, but I don't write articles trying to prove it doesn't exist." - Tina Fey
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Count Zero
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quote:
Originally posted by williamssl
I have unilaterally decided that the AJ/Cena promo was good and that both individuals came off as very solid in it. The subject is now closed. If
you choose to continue the discussion, and especially if you don't share in this decision, you are doing so in vain and wasting your time and
should really reconsider your priorities and your life.
Carry on.
Perhaps we could start a thread devoted to the discussion and resolution of the matter? 
BROCKTOOOOOOOOONNNNNNN
Originally posted by williamssl
"That hasn't stopped us from doing this shit before!"
"Checkmate, sir. Checkmate"
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CM Crunk
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Honestly I don't get the hate for the opening segment. While it was for the most part built on a typical show opening promo template they
switched things up a bit and I think it was way more entertaining than some are giving it credit for here. The fact that the humor that was blended
into this segment ACTUALLY WORKED speaks volumes to the rumors of things getting shaken up a bit backstage. I don't know if that means that the
participants had more free reign on the stick, or if the former comedy writers backstage were allowed to write actual, y'know, comedy
that doesn't just play to Vince's juvenile comedic sensibilities or some combination of the two.
Either way I think it worked, and anyone saying that this is the worst opener in recent memory needs to go back and revisit the Shane, Steph and New
Day opening the show LAST WEEK with their "Brand Split and What Iz Draft" telethon that accomplished nothing.
Add in all of the different camera flourishes and tweaks to the standard formulas that we experienced last night, I almost think we MIIIGHT be on the
precipice of some positive changes being made to the product. I don't know about you guys but I'm all for a more progressive style of
presentation as the current formats that they've been going with were beaten to death with their own shoe a good 5 years ago. And even then the
format was pretty stale.
Raw wasn't a complete home run by any stretch of the imagination and had just as many thuds as it did hits. I just appreciate the fact that at
least it seems like they're trying to switch things up a little bit.
The optimistic side of me sees this as a good thing. Even if it's just weeeeeee baby steps right now.
The pro-wrestling fan side of me is just waiting for Vince to get cold feet or have one of his trademark changes of heart and revert things to their
normal stagnancy.
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Paddlefoot
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Probably an over-reaction on my part to Teddy bolloxing up his part of the opener and making the whole thing look lame. In hindsight all the trash
talk was pretty good for the most part. That dead crowd didn't help either though. They barely reacted to anything all night except for Cena and
Charlotte mouthing off at them.
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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janerd75
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quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
Probably an over-reaction on my part to Teddy bolloxing up his part of the opener and making the whole thing look lame. In hindsight all the trash
talk was pretty good for the most part. That dead crowd didn't help either though. They barely reacted to anything all night except for Cena and
Charlotte mouthing off at them.
That's pretty much my assessment. The crowd wasn't exactly shit, but they seemed to have a stilted stop/start approach to cheering as
opposed to those universally dull crowds that make things a chore. Maybe even they were thrown by the clear change in presentation that's been
creeping in post-Shane. I think if that attempt were in a hot spot like in the Northeast somewhere it would have vibed it up a bit. But then agayn, as
good as The Canadiennes were in the opener, I'm far too much of an asshole to not be frustrated there weren't a few racy double entendres
or borderline R-rated comments. Fuggin' Canadians can't even Edge me to completion, can you?  Regardless, I like the old Muppet Show
motif that seems to be taking over.
Also, Teddy Long. That [REDACTED] should be put on a [REDACTED] in a [REDACTED] and sent back to [REDACTED]*.
*'Playa', 'Legends Contract', 'timely fashion', 'craft services where he can interact with younger
talent as well as read his scripts more thoroughly so as to avoid any verbal mixups while on live tv'. What? That's exactly what I meant.
Look, I can't help it if you're projecting something sinister.
�If only Africa had more mosquito nets, then every year we could save millions of mosquitoes from dying needlessly of A.I.D.S.� - Jimmy Carr
As per Count Zero's lovely transciption:
Jericho: "You better watch it."
Owens: "Yeah? Watch what?"
Jericho: "...It."
Evil Canadians 4 Life!
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Paddlefoot
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Yow. That came close. Damn close. 
Owens. Zayn. Jericho. If they do the turn for Sami, like in Montreal where the place would fucking explode, that's one hell of a good
foundation for a heel Team Canada stable if they want to revive the idea someday. Maybe toss in Miz & Maryse as well for more numbers plus hot chick.
You are a bastard. A daughter-fucking wildling bastard.
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janerd75
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Yeah, they came close a couple times to throwing out some over-the-line zingers, like Owens did with the 'Oh, Spanish' comment, but I
guess relatively gentle puns and zingers will have to do. It's not like a Canadian's gonna get all sordid on the mic or, like, have
simulated intercourse in the ring or something ridiculous like that. But a NuHart foundation and/or Canadian faction made up of you gentle creatures
would be the fucking tits at this point. Oh, I can just hear the goddamn delightful about/aboat/aboot riffs now.
Yes yes, so, so, so very close...
�If only Africa had more mosquito nets, then every year we could save millions of mosquitoes from dying needlessly of A.I.D.S.� - Jimmy Carr
As per Count Zero's lovely transciption:
Jericho: "You better watch it."
Owens: "Yeah? Watch what?"
Jericho: "...It."
Evil Canadians 4 Life!
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merc
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quote:
Originally posted by Count Zero
Perhaps we could start a thread devoted to the discussion and resolution of the matter?
BROCKTOOOOOOOOONNNNNNN
IMPOSSIBLE! No one starts threads anymore, just post in the rumor thread.
quote:
Originally posted by CM Crunk
Honestly I don't get the hate for the opening segment...
Either way I think it worked, and anyone saying that this is the worst opener in recent memory needs to go back and revisit the Shane, Steph and New
Day opening the show LAST WEEK with their "Brand Split and What Iz Draft" telethon that accomplished nothing.
I be the hater... here's why.
The show opens with five guys on ladders. Now, these guys have had assorted reasons to want to kick each others asses over the last few weeks.
However, they sit peacefully atop their respective precarious perches.
Let's take Zayn & Owens. How does it make sense that either of them would politely climb up a latter trusting the other wouldn't launch
him into the other ladders, you know kinda like what happened several minutes later? 
Sticking with Owens and how he has played his character. Why would he even participate in randomly walking in and climbing a ladder to talk?
Jericho's been the asshole star this go round. He has set himself above the rest of this group (in his own mind "best there is at..."). He
would participate in this little orgy why?
Cesaro sadly has not developed a personality outside of his (getting redundant) ring work. With everyone else already in fight gear, why is he
wearing the tear away suit still? Is he both stupid and bland?
Del Rio? OK he's being turned into a lemming who will follow anything. So why not climb a ladder and see what happens. Great
destruction of someone capable of so much more. So my hating here goes more to how the talent is being wasted, as a character I am clueless to what
is driving him. Credit WWE Writer Monkeys for that malaise.
Zayn..I don't get his character...unless he is playing the dude with no memory. Otherwise how the hell do you climb a ladder with a guy who has
pearl harbored you multiple times in the last several weeks right beside you?
So... hate is plentiful before Ambrose starts the walk down. But let's see this thru...
The lunatic fringe walks down aisle. The ONLY move for his character is to lay out the five ladders. Period. How'd that work out?
Anything after these fails is irrelevant. The set up has fucked the majority of the players in the ring. It fails at every turn of kayfabe logic.
It sucks the character out of the characters.
I will bow at the alter of anyone who draws up a logical reason for five combatants to peacefully set up six ladders in a ring and climb them; whilst
awaiting a "lunatic" to wander down to "chat".
It was stupid...stupid...stupid. and I hate stupid. I never got to word one and had written the segment off as stupid. The set up was so stupid
that Einstein, Jobs and Belichik couldn't save it. I got one word for it and I gonnna SPELL IT OUT for you!
S
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STOOOOOOOOOPIIIIIIIID
I'd suggest starting a thread to talk about stupid, but threads are so 2014.
I hope that helps with understanding the hate. 
They are called "letters" when put together they make "words". Words make moving photos unnecessary.
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Count Zero
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quote:
Originally posted by merc
I will bow at the alter of anyone who draws up a logical reason for five combatants to peacefully set up six ladders in a ring and climb them; whilst
awaiting a "lunatic" to wander down to "chat".
I gotcher reason right here, and it's the same reason a lot of people are forced to do
stupid things on a daily basis despite their knowing better:
Because "The Boss" said to do it, so I do it or I don't get paid.
/thread.
I don't just mean that in the backstage sense either, but "in continuity" all Steph/Shane has to do is say "Okay, this is how we are opening
the program, and you 6 WILL do what we tell you to do, or that will be the end of your MiTB match opportunity. Good day." Yes, if 'the average
person's boss' sent them out to wait for a lunatic, it probably wouldn't happen. These people are professional-fighter-types who
deal with 'lunatic behavior' every week. Their risk assessment criteria are different, and so when the boss says "Do this thing which is
no less or more risky than what I normally have you do, or you are in trouble and lose privileges", they would be inclined to climb the ladders &
wait for the tv show to start, no?
And to fend off any "well why didn't they tell us this on camera?" discussions, let's examine the following statement: "They stop
treating us like kids and let us figure something out for ourselves without spelling it out in a probably overlong promo, but it's stupid
because they don't explain it to us!" I don't think anybody would want to be found willingly in possession of that argument.
However, in the macrocosm, this is a terribly minute thing to debate this extensively, especially in a fictional realm that is plagued with larger
outbreaks of stupid. I'm going back to my coffee & cricket replays. 
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