OORick
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PPV DISCUSSION: Money in the Bank 2016
WWE's calling it the best MitB PPV ever, and it's not much of a stretch. Only 2011 -- headlined by the ultra-tense Cena vs. Punk title
match, with a superlatively satisfying MitB win by Daniel Bryan -- can really make a better case, if you ask The Rick.
Tonight's show is top-to-bottom strong, but will be at its best during the three top matches, any one of which could step up to be the Match of
the Night. Here's the line-up:
Roman Reigns vs. Seth Rollins (WWE Title Match)
Dean Ambrose vs. Kevin Owens vs. Chris Jericho vs. Alberto del Rio vs. Sami Zayn vs. Cesaro (Money in the Bank Ladder Match)
John Cena vs. AJ Styles (15 Years in the Making OMG Dream Match)
The New Day vs. Gallows/Anderson vs. Enzo/Cass vs. the Vaudevillains (Tag Team Title Match)
Rusev vs. Titus O'Neil (US Title Match)
Becky Lynch & Natalya vs. Charlotte & Dana Brooke
Dolph Ziggler vs. Baron Corbin
Apollo Crews vs. Sheamus
The Golden Truth vs. Breezedango (Preshow)
The Lucha Dragons vs. the Dudley Boyz (Preshow)
And somewhere in there, it's very likely that Bray Wyatt makes his return, too; when he was last seen, he was forging a tenuous alliance with
Reigns.... certainly, reprising that would be an interesting way for Reigns to retain the title, while Rollins has a strong case for a rematch due to
Bray's interference.
Ambrose or Owens seem like the best bets to win MitB. Ambrose is your shortcut to a 3-way Shield Feud (he's even openly discussed cashing in on
the same night), while Owens would just be awesome fun.
I've got a sneaking suspicion Gallows/Anderson win the tag titles tonight. Spend July on the straight-up G&A; vs. New Day feud, and then
you've got Enzo & Cass in perfect position to get a huge crowd pleasing SummerSlam win in Brooklyn (on the one-year anniversary of their NXT
Title win, to boot!).
Rusev is a no-brainer, but I think the match will be better than expected. And unless Charlotte has another partner stashed away, the women's
tag seems a perfect set-up for Becky & Nattie to get the win thanks to superior teamwork/friendship, which in turn sets up the next #1 Contender
(it's Becky's turn, if you ask me). Then again, with both Naomi and Sasha Banks ready to return, run-ins and shenanigans are very much
possible.
The rest? Meh, two main card matches, both at risk of culling if the show starts to run long because nobody cares, and two preshow matches where the
only only silver lining is that I care way more about Golden Truth than I ever would have thought possible, but I still feel guilty about it.
Your turn, OO Nation! Debate, discuss, dissect, and I'll see you with the Main Page PPV Recap at some point around 11:30pm (eastern) later
tonight....
[Edited on 6-19-2016 by OORick]
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TexShark300
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Be sure to make your picks here
http://www.oowrestling.com/OOForums/viewthread.php?tid=31181
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DevilSoprano
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And chat here:
http://natecorbitt.proboards.com/page/chat
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CM Crunk
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Nitpicky correction: Enzo & Cass actually never won the NXT Tag Titles. They were involved in an 8-man tag at last years NXT Brooklyn with The Hype
Bros against American Alpha and The Revival. It was the Vaudevillains who won the tag titles off of Blake & Murphy. That said, I'm all for the
scenario you've pitched for the tag titles moving towards Summerslam.
I'm really hoping this show delivers as for whatever reason I'm having a hard time mustering up any excitement. Definitely has the makings
of a sleeper show, though. Honestly it really hinges upon the results of the MiTB match itself and Styles/Cena for me. Would love to see Ambrose or
Owens with the briefcase, but I fear that they'll end up just giving it to ADR because he has nothing going and they want to trick us into
giving a crap. Styles is in a must-win situation, IMO. He's been doing really well since his debut at the Rumble, but it seems like he's
come up short in all of his big matches so far. Him winning is way more interesting, and would be a nice way to maybe plant the seeds (not for a heel
turn, obviously) for a less confident John Cena who may have lost a step since his injury.
Rollins/Reigns is either going to end with LOLBROCKTOONWINZ, or maybe JUST MAYBE they'll do something interesting involving Bray, Dean cashing
in, or some sort of non-finish that'll help set the table for the title scene leading into the brand split. I still think there should be only
one champ EVEN if it is Vince's favorite Samoan.
Anyway, here's my picks from the Pick 'Em thread...
quote:
Originally posted by CM Crunk
Golden Truth
Dudleys
Baron Corbin
Apollo Crews
Charlotte & Dana Brooke
Rusev
AJ Styles
The Club
Ambrose
Seth/Roman No Contest/Double DQ/General Chicanery/Ambrose cash-in
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DKBroiler
SpeciASSl CUMedian
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Couple of things ...
- Shouldn't Paige be the woman's #1 contender with the win on Raw?
- I fully expect Ambrose to win, but what if Wyatt just comes out, has the Wyatt Family beat the fuck out of everyone and steals the case?
- This is an unfair night of TV with Game 7 and The Battle of the Bastards.
- I think Rollins wins and loses to Ambrose.
- Not sure if everyone saw in the rumor crap thread but Forbes is reporting that WWE just realized that the split needs more wrestlers and they are
calling all hands on deck. Angle, Goldberg, Jeff Hardy, Carlito, Mysterio and Shelton Benjamin have all supposedly been contacted about immediate
availability.
Get off my lawn.
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janerd75
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Bray, Bray, Bray...why's it gotta be him? Why ain't nobody hearing voices in their head aboot who it could otherwise be? #shitstirring
#pleasedeargodletitbehimeventhoughhe'sprobablygonnahelpJohnboywithTheClub
ETA: New Gay FTW. 
ETA2: Loud boring chants for Corbin/Ziggler. Neat.
Fuck's sake basketball is fundamentally useless from an entertainment perspective unless Steph Curry's wife goes nutzoid and y'alls
can record Ramsey/Snow buttfuckery on GoT.  #NewEra #HardInTheTaint  
[Edited on 6-20-2016 by janerd75]
Fuck Everybody
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Count Zero
Man of a Thousand Holds
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Was the crowd chanting "This is boring" or "Corbin Bernsen"? 
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TonyTH
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This show is laid out like ass.
Baron/Ziggler, Women's match, Appollo/Sheamus. All terrible builds. All in a row. Guess they're going with the big three main events being
the only ones that matter? But I'm getting tired, and much more into the basketball game.
Lay out the show better is what I'm saying, Christ.
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Count Zero
Man of a Thousand Holds
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JBL freaking out about AJ winning due to Club Shenanigans? I didn't expect that. Like, he really blew his top over that in full-JBL fashion.
What's -that- all about, I wonders?
Originally posted by williamssl
"That hasn't stopped us from doing this shit before!"
"Checkmate, sir. Checkmate"
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janerd75
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quote:
Originally posted by TonyTH
This show is laid out like ass.
Baron/Ziggler, Women's match, Appollo/Sheamus. All terrible builds. All in a row. Guess they're going with the big three main events being
the only ones that matter? But I'm getting tired, and much more into the basketball game.
Lay out the show better is what I'm saying, Christ.
So much ass. Fuggin' basketball. I hope Ramsey takes the Know Stopper to #Town. 
Fuck Everybody
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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quote:
Originally posted by Count Zero
Was the crowd chanting "This is boring" or "Corbin Bernsen"?
Like Kes said in her last appearance on Star Trek Voyager, "Corbin Bernsen" is my gift to you. 
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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Count Zero
Man of a Thousand Holds
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That's all the gift I get? 
Dammit.
Originally posted by williamssl
"That hasn't stopped us from doing this shit before!"
"Checkmate, sir. Checkmate"
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janerd75
The Rowdy One
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Jericho: Take the number 69, it's hilarious! *sweet Alex Lifeson riff* THEY CALL ME THE WORKIN' MAN!
ETA: Why is Corey Graves wearing a M'Lady hat?
Also, Renee is positively glistening and moist after Deano's win. #Town
[Edited on 6-20-2016 by janerd75]
Fuck Everybody
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OORick
Intellectual Savior of the Masses
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So yeah, stacking those three blandfests on top of each other for over an hour kinda killed my excitement level. But man alive, did Styles and Cena
ever tell a great story (right up to an including JBL's odd freak-out over the schmozz finish)... granted, Cena has a history of losing Chapter
One of a feud, and later chapters are entirely more predictable and bland, but for now, we're in a good place with those two.
I actually thought Cena/Styles might have secure MotN status. But then MitB happened, and was red hot. I think everybody but Jericho had TONS of fan
support and credibility for their teases. For me, Owens gets MVP of the match (also, Dumbass of the Match for that one Michinoku Driver bump), Cesaro
a close second, and NONE of that takes away from Ambrose winning and being a compelling MitB holder.
How are we still doing this Rusev match? Do Rollins and Reigns not even intend to TRY to top those two matches? It'll be 10:45 before they even
ring the bell on the WWE Title Match....
Rick
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Count Zero
Man of a Thousand Holds
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I really like that double-clothesline outside the ring spot. This is the 2nd or 3rd time I've seen it lately, although I can't remember
specifics.
ETA: Not only do you get to lose when WWE is in your hometown, if you're a dad, you eat the pin on Father's Day! 
[Edited on 6-20-2016 by Count Zero]
Originally posted by williamssl
"That hasn't stopped us from doing this shit before!"
"Checkmate, sir. Checkmate"
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TownOfDalem
Undisputibed Champion
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Am I the only one that forgot the Rusev/Titus existed?
OO's only mammal penguin
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Count Zero
Man of a Thousand Holds
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8 minutes until "end of show", and now it's The Guy vs The Man, buddy.
Originally posted by williamssl
"That hasn't stopped us from doing this shit before!"
"Checkmate, sir. Checkmate"
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Flash
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I guess with the network era they are no longer beholden to the 11pm finish time for PPV's.... still, there are those of us who have work
tomorrow bright and early on the east side of the continent, so for as awesome as I'm hoping Reigns vs Rollins is, I also hope they get to it
right quick and don't drag things out too late....
Although I suppose I could just always stop it and finish it off tomorrow, but it's just not the same.
Some thoughts:
*They probably should have opened with one of the big three; give the show a hot start. I think the Tag match would have been a great first hour B
match, and the other matches peppered in between the rest of the show probably would have felt a bit more lively.
*Cena versus AJ was well done... they did the finish I kind of figured they would... enough to protect Cena, while still putting him as the probable
winner, but allowing AJ to take home the win. Still... they made AJ look very strong at several spots, so fishy win or not, he's still walking
out looking like he's in John's league.
I'm kind of hoping that they deviate from the traditional rematch format and maybe go with a six man rematch between Cena and AJ at
Battleground... maybe JC calls on Samoa Joe for some help? You can then finish things off in a one on one rematch at Summer Slam.
Then again with the Brand Split coming up who knows how these things will work out....
*MITB was well done... hard to talk about big spot fest matches like this in a critical way, but this one lived up to the hype for the most part. I
think only really ADR or Y2J were the only one's that you maybe didn't want to win... but even both of them you could probably live with
as winners... Still, Ambrose winning is a feel good moment, and more importantly be it a cash in tonight, or at Battleground, you've got the
potential for a Shield three way for the title at Summer Slam... and that just screams huge match.
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Katie Vick killer
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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quote:
Originally posted by Count Zero
JBL freaking out about AJ winning due to Club Shenanigans? I didn't expect that. Like, he really blew his top over that in full-JBL fashion.
What's -that- all about, I wonders?
Remember when colour commentators used to say shit like
quote:
Jesse "The Body" Ventura
Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat
Good Times
On the subject of JBL, Rollins is the true Linear champion. Yet he didn't pin Lesnar. Also great Las Vegas fights = Wrestlemania IX #LOLs
quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
Like Kes said in her last appearance on Star Trek Voyager, "Corbin Bernsen" is my gift to you.
Unlike the "Gift" she gave to her neighbours kids http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/jennifer-lien-arrested-star-trek-voyager-1201594328/
Vote Bender
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Paddlefoot
Rocco Rock of Jabroni
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quote:
Originally posted by Count Zero
8 minutes until "end of show", and now it's The Guy vs The Man, buddy.
+5 for keeping it in context, fella. 
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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Paddlefoot
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quote:
Originally posted by Katie Vick killer
quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
Like Kes said in her last appearance on Star Trek Voyager, "Corbin Bernsen" is my gift to you.
Unlike the "Gift" she gave to her neighbours kids http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/jennifer-lien-arrested-star-trek-voyager-1201594328/
Meth + disappeared career is a hell of a drug. Probably be living in the same trailer park with Erin Moran and Tammy Sytch someday.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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Count Zero
Man of a Thousand Holds
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT
INTERNETSPLODES.
Originally posted by williamssl
"That hasn't stopped us from doing this shit before!"
"Checkmate, sir. Checkmate"
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williamssl
Steers and Queers
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On the subject of timing....
...the two shows that were on the pre-show were very late-breaking adds, pushing the 2 or 3 matches that were originally pre-show off and onto the
regular card.
Wow!! Guess we're getting our Shield triple threat! Very much looking forward to it. Well done!
Don't Mess With Texas
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Flash
The Rowdy One
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Holy shit.... and then holy shit again.
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TonyTH
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Ya know, there's times when shit is predictable and we all kinda see it happening. But that was a rare occourance where that was the case, and
it was still fucking awesome.
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