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Author: Subject: OOfficial Discussion Thread for: RAW (July 18, 2016)
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 02:15 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Bro, Cena playing straight man is kind of amazing.


He is indeed adding gravitas to the proceedings. I don't know how to feel aboot that considering his time is going to be more limited than ever now. I hope he at least gets the title one more time. Ever since the U.S. Title Challenge he's been amazing.





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posted on 7-19-2016 at 02:16 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Perhaps one day, if we can find it in our hearts to do so, we can up the CENA SUCKS part of the dueling LET'S GO/SUCKS to CENA'S OKAY.





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posted on 7-19-2016 at 02:24 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Out of town visiting my Dad right now and watching the east coast feed. Haven't watched regularly with him since the Attitude Era (and the odd PPV during the modern era) so his insights are pretty telling, aside from the obvious "who the hell is that guy? Re: 95% of the roster.

"Who the hell is that Seth Rogan looking guy?"

(As KO is making his entrance) "What's his deal? Fan who won a contest?"

(Cesaros entrance) "So this guy is part James Bond part Magic Mike?"

"Wow. Bob Backlund is still alive. When did he start managing Nestle Quik Cena?"

(My favorite) "Is Miz's wive deaf?"

The catchphrase-a-palooza leading into the 12-man tag went over pretty well too.





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posted on 7-19-2016 at 02:26 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Cena reacted to Bray the same way our dog just reacted when a beetle ran across the living room hardwood.







You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know, that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 02:30 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Out of town visiting my Dad right now...


Crunkers, tell the Old Man he's awesome, *clap clap clapclapclap* and that Janerd approves of his commentary.


On second thought, just say he's IWC commentary approved. You don't need to get into the deets of who said it. Far too much to explain.

ETA: Jesus Christ! Clearly in this New Era of OO, gifs still work.

[Edited on 7-19-2016 by janerd75]





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posted on 7-19-2016 at 02:39 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
The draft chats are dumb, this isn't free agent recruiting. If you draft someone they are yours. Can the writers really be that disconnected from sports?





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posted on 7-19-2016 at 02:44 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
So all it took was "WWE pretend-fighting with itself" for us to get new/different/interesting TV presentation? (e.g. Seth's Empty Arena Promo, the Opening PreTaped Vignettes they've been doing on Smackdown, etc)

Or is this the result of all those Full Sail tv production grads getting a chance to play in the Big Leagues? (Did Bucky die and somehow we weren't made aware of the fact?)

ETmake a little more sense.

[Edited on 7-19-2016 by Count Zero]





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posted on 7-19-2016 at 02:50 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
That superhero comic cover-ish commercial they did for Battleground is pretty slick.





You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know, that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 02:54 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
More Papa Crunk commentary, this time regarding Baron Corbin: "Nice hair. He looks like a Lord of The Rings Orc."





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posted on 7-19-2016 at 02:56 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Was Bacon Coursin' (aka Corbin Bernsen, aka Baron Corbin) ever interesting? I mean in NXT before he got here. I'm asking honestly here, because I'm not sure I see what 'potential' required him to be the ArMbAr trophy winner.





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posted on 7-19-2016 at 02:56 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Are we done with Corbin Bersen yet? Fucking useless.





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posted on 7-19-2016 at 02:59 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
LOL. They skipped over the part where the ESPN graphic was written as "WWE mock draft".

ETA: noogies on the short big boobed gal? Hello McFly? Nice touch, Becks.

[Edited on 7/19/2016 by Paddlefoot]





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posted on 7-19-2016 at 03:03 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Was Bacon Coursin' (aka Corbin Bernsen, aka Baron Corbin) ever interesting? I mean in NXT before he got here. I'm asking honestly here, because I'm not sure I see what 'potential' required him to be the ArMbAr trophy winner.


He had his moments in NXT. His handling since his call-up has left a lot to be desired but he has proven in NXT that he can pull off having a character. That character is basically what a lot of us project on Roman Reigns: pro football washout with a look and a chip on his shoulder, no time for indy-darlings and an unearned superiority complex.





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posted on 7-19-2016 at 03:05 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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He had his moments in NXT. His handling since his call-up has left a lot to be desired but he has proven in NXT that he can pull off having a character. That character is basically what a lot of us project on Roman Reigns: pro football washout with a look and a chip on his shoulder, no time for indy-darlings and an unearned superiority complex.
So he's completely generic and replaceable? I'm not being sarcastic, really. I mean, a little, okay. But... He doesn't get to talk (presumably because he can't very well) and his matches are like Sunday Night Heat filler. He's got "skinny fat" flab. Who does he have pictures of?





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posted on 7-19-2016 at 03:05 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Don't worry, Baron Corbin will be a LOT more interesting when he shows up after the draft repackaged as a dirty nude man with a baby who hangs out on a beach.

Edit: I love when they come back from commercials and someone's already in the ring with their music playing at a point where it rarely ever gets to reach under normal circumstances.

[Edited on 7-19-2016 by Il Palazzo]





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posted on 7-19-2016 at 03:20 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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He had his moments in NXT. His handling since his call-up has left a lot to be desired but he has proven in NXT that he can pull off having a character. That character is basically what a lot of us project on Roman Reigns: pro football washout with a look and a chip on his shoulder, no time for indy-darlings and an unearned superiority complex.
So he's completely generic and replaceable?


Check. Mate.



Yeah, Corbin is kind of a load befitting his brown pants at this point. I had an affinity for the guy in NXT that not a whole lot of others shared, but I stood by it. The promotion hasn't done him any favors, though. I still think there IS a bit of potential that isn't being tapped, but he could only stay in NXT for so long before becoming an afterthought. I'd suggest watching Breaking Ground on The Network for a better understanding of the prickish aura he's capable of.

Kinda hard to take the guy seriously with that belly, that hair, and those pant though. You might say his character needs more definition, some growth, and something-something-not-the-brown-pants. Respectively, of course.





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posted on 7-19-2016 at 03:25 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Does the WWE currently have enough Cruiserweights to flesh out an entire division?

Kalisto
Sin Cara
Neville
Tyler Breeze
Sami Zayn (??)


And I think that is it for now, right? I assume Tajiri and Spanky will be kept to make the division a little bit deeper. And unless they bring a bunch of guys from the CWC to help out, I am not sure they have enough quality. I guess Finn Balor could come up and be the face of that division, but that seems like it would limit him on some level, if you did that. Austin Aries? A surprise signing of Riccochet?

I am just not sure if they have enough wrestlers currently to make for an interesting division.

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posted on 7-19-2016 at 03:28 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Counting tonight's multi-man tag match, John Cena is 0-3 since returning from his injury. Let's all ponder that, along with what horrific ramifications it may have on the universe and reality as a whole, for a moment.
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 03:31 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Corbin was the idiot version of Roman Reigns. Ridiculous clothing and phrases to try and look cool,and one-liners that didn't even make senses(''You should have stayed in Ring of Honor'-said to the guy who's never wrestled in ROH).

As a parody of the typical home grown big man wrestlers, he is a perfect foil to the high number of normal sized world traveleres currently in the roster.

EDIT: Also he had a fun little short run as the guy whose invincible streak ended as soon as he faced real competition, and thus tried to make up for it by challenging everybody else who had an undefeated streak going on, from Samoa Joe to guys who had just debuted and only had two matches under their wing. I feel a more developed version of this character could be really fun.

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posted on 7-19-2016 at 03:32 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Bernsen as a Wyatt or GTFO.







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posted on 7-19-2016 at 03:38 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Counting tonight's multi-man tag match, John Cena is 0-3 since returning from his injury. Let's all ponder that, along with what horrific ramifications it may have on the universe and reality as a whole, for a moment.
LolCenaWi....Wait, wut? I am suddenly afraid.





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posted on 7-19-2016 at 03:46 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
The crowd was pretty live tonight ... until the Ryder/Ziggler vs. Rusev/Seamus match. Not even Ambrose could get them back.

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posted on 7-19-2016 at 04:04 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Is there really any doubt with all the authority figures at ringside that we're not going to end up with some screwy finish where Steph & Mick recognize one guy as the winner, while Shane & Bryan recognize the other, thus splitting the title?

If not tonight then Sunday for sure?

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posted on 7-19-2016 at 04:06 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Is there really any doubt with all the authority figures at ringside that we're not going to end up with some screwy finish where Steph & Mick recognize one guy as the winner, while Shane & Bryan recognize the other, thus splitting the title?

If not tonight then Sunday for sure?
How's a Double-Pinfall for ya?





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posted on 7-19-2016 at 04:07 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Couldn't the referee just declare some sort of double-win that negates the title changing hands, or throw out the result? Either way! Eh. And I'm getting soooooo tired of Ambrose's Wacky Rebounding Clothesline. It was alright here and there when it fit in with the action. When he's actively bouncing off the ropes that way just for that purpose, not so much.





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