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Subject: OOfficial Discussion Thread for: RAW (July 18, 2016)
Sam Is Neat
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 04:10 AM
quote:Originally posted by Il Palazzo
Couldn't the referee just declare some sort of double-win that negates the title changing hands, or throw out the result? Either way! Eh. And
I'm getting soooooo tired of Ambrose's Wacky Rebounding Clothesline. It was alright here and there when it fit in with the action. When
he's actively bouncing off the ropes that way just for that purpose, not so much.
It would go a long way if he fell through the ropes and onto the apron/floor, every once in a while. At least then, it would have some psychology
behind the move. As it stands right now, it is too slow and contrived to be taken seriously.
While we're at it, can we stop pretending that Big Cass's "Empire Elbow" is anything more than a regular jumping elbow?
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 04:14 AM
Similarly, I find their Rocket Launcher/Bada Boom Shaka Laka more than a bit silly as it never seems like Cass really assist's Enzo's
splash much. I suspect they could pull that off better.
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 05:27 AM
Yeah, the BoomShakaThing would be better if, for example, Enzo FrogSplashed after jumping off Cass' Shoulders or... Well, pretty much anything.
I like them, but that move (and the name) could use tweaking.
Originally posted by williamssl
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 05:39 AM
I understand the main event ending and know it's been done in similar ways over the years, but I still couldn't help yelling at the
referee to get up off his ass and do something while everyone was bickering and boasting about who the winner was. He recovered enough from the bump
to be aware of what was going on three minutes before the fade. He was talking to Shane or Bryan or whoever was coming over to him with questions or
concerns, but refused to stand up and set things straight. Whoever that ref was, I wouldn't be drafting him to my brand...
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 05:42 AM
3 hours, the cruiserweights, BS finishes, RAW...is...Nitro?
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 05:47 AM
quote:Originally posted by Matte
I understand the main event ending and know it's been done in similar ways over the years, but I still couldn't help yelling at the
referee to get up off his ass and do something while everyone was bickering and boasting about who the winner was. He recovered enough from the bump
to be aware of what was going on three minutes before the fade. He was talking to Shane or Bryan or whoever was coming over to him with questions or
concerns, but refused to stand up and set things straight. Whoever that ref was, I wouldn't be drafting him to my brand...
Shane declared the match a draw after RAW went off the air and the title was rewarded back to Dean Ambrose.
Paddlefoot
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 06:12 AM
I want to hack the Wyatt's entrance. The lights go out, the music hits, the fans break out their phones to provide the swamp-light effect, and
then every single one of their screens goes right to Goatse.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 06:45 AM
quote:Originally posted by Paddlefoot
I want to hack the Wyatt's entrance. The lights go out, the music hits, the fans break out their phones to provide the swamp-light effect, and
then every single one of their screens goes right to Goatse.
While you're going to that trouble why not make it play Cult Of Personality as well?
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 07:01 AM
Goatman goes better with that vaguely True Detective season one theme song the Wyatts use. I assume it's because there seems to be a lot of
ass-play type things going on in swampy areas at any given moment.
[Edited on 7/19/2016 by Paddlefoot]
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 11:23 AM
quote:Originally posted by Matte
I understand the main event ending and know it's been done in similar ways over the years, but I still couldn't help yelling at the
referee to get up off his ass and do something while everyone was bickering and boasting about who the winner was. He recovered enough from the bump
to be aware of what was going on three minutes before the fade. He was talking to Shane or Bryan or whoever was coming over to him with questions or
concerns, but refused to stand up and set things straight. Whoever that ref was, I wouldn't be drafting him to my brand...
Didn't you read the concussion thread? Refs get concussed all the time. They were probably going thru concussion protocol.
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 11:39 AM
quote:Originally posted by Il Palazzo
Couldn't the referee just declare some sort of double-win that negates the title changing hands, or throw out the result? Either way! Eh. And
I'm getting soooooo tired of Ambrose's Wacky Rebounding Clothesline. It was alright here and there when it fit in with the action. When
he's actively bouncing off the ropes that way just for that purpose, not so much.
This is exactly what they did... Afterwards, in a network exclusive. Eventually ref declared it a draw, Rollins gave the title back, then attacked
Ambrose, then went to leave, returned, and eventually Ambrose got the upper hand.
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 01:14 PM
One of the commentators should have really pushed the fact that Ambrose hooked Rollins leg and that both sets of shoulders were down.
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 01:47 PM
Me after Corbin vs. Sin Cara: "They couldn't even make it through an entire show before treating cruiserweights like they've always
treated cruiserweights."
Commentators totally missed Young using VINTAGE~! Backlund moves like the big atomic drop and bridging O'Connor Roll.
Women's revolution = two minutes, lame-ass DQ...at least they have two matches at Battleground. I fear Nia Jax as Sasha's partner. (Though
I am given to understand that she is, in fact, Not Like Most Girls(tm).)
Addendum: Anderson would reference his hot Asian wife in Japan, too.
[Edited on 7-19-2016 by PB-13]
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 08:31 PM
I didn't think it was possible, but Stephanie's never been more annoying than last night, even stating to Shane that she can do what she
wants and that there's nothing that he can do about it. And ad-libbing over other promos to add in her own two cents. Shut the fuck up and go
away, you raging egomaniac.
That basically sums up why I don't want her on TV. It's not that she's a bad villain, its that she's never going to get the
comeuppance that she has coming to her and she knows it. Say what you will about HHH, but he was willing to show ass a while back by taking a baseball
slide from Brie Bella and selling it. Even Vince at his most vile levels of heeldom would always get his comeuppance at the end, because that's
whats supposed to happen in wrestling. But Steph won't ever do that, and its hurting the product
[Edited on 7-19-2016 by anglefan85]
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 08:46 PM
Agree 100% with all that. What made it even worse at the end of the show was that Shane, Bryan and the ref did nothing about it. She just got away
with it as usual, while dancing around like a stupid annoying cunt.
[Edited on 7-19-2016 by punkerhardcore]
Is everyone mad here?
Of course they are, and you are too... otherwise, you wouldn't have come here.
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 08:58 PM
quote:Originally posted by anglefan85
I didn't think it was possible, but Stephanie's never been more annoying than last night, even stating to Shane that she can do what she
wants and that there's nothing that he can do about it. And ad-libbing over other promos to add in her own two cents. Shut the fuck up and go
away, you raging egomaniac.
That basically sums up why I don't want her on TV. It's not that she's a bad villain, its that she's never going to get the
comeuppance that she has coming to her and she knows it. Say what you will about HHH, but he was willing to show ass a while back by taking a baseball
slide from Brie Bella and selling it. Even Vince at his most vile levels of heeldom would always get his comeuppance at the end, because that's
whats supposed to happen in wrestling. But Steph won't ever do that, and its hurting the product
[Edited on 7-19-2016 by anglefan85]
QFT
I don't know what it is exactly about Steph that I dislike so much but you did a pretty good job of summing most of it up up there. Even as far
as comeuppance goes even that spear that she took from Reigns at Wrestlemania didn't seem like it was enough. Although I'm sure it could
be said that the hallowed halls of fandom would still be reverberating from the pop if it'd have been, say, a flying knee from D-Bry, or
anything from anybody who has a better connection with the fans than Reigns does. But this isn't about nitpicking RoRo, it's about
nitpicking Stephanie...
She doesn't seem to be interested in putting anyone other than herself over. Good antagonists are supposed to make for good protagonists but
that's not always the case with Stephanie. Especially when HHH isn't around to be the one showing ass for the roster.
Glad to see I wasn't the only one irritated by her ham-fisted ad-libbing last night. Especially when the memory of her raising hell a couple of
years back when Dusty Motherflippin' Rhodes had the audacity to go off script with her is still so fresh in my mind. In all honesty,
unless she's a Meryl Streep-caliber actress, I think she's been noticeably more than a little agitated on-screen ever since Shane came
back.
WWE seems to be an ego project for her, where she's more concerned with putting herself out there as the face of a lot of the good will
endeavors, and less with making sure that anyone who has had to feud with her comes out the other end of it a stronger character. I mean, look back at
those Connor videos from a couple years ago. Instead of Daniel Bryan, the one who Connor connected with, being made the focus (outside of Connor of
course) Stephanie practically highjacked the clip package and even closed it out with her own tearful testimony. Stuff like that drives me up the
wall. She just seems like a disingenuous, ballbusting, corporate shill who's only in it for her own gain...and I'm not sure if I'm
talking about the character or the person right now.
"X-Pac heat", to me, is Stephanie McMahon heat. Been that way for a long time, so maybe my perspective is a little skewed, but I think a LOT less of
her on TV can only be a good thing.
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 09:17 PM
But 2 things ...
Steph's titties.
[Edited on 7-19-2016 by DKBroiler]
Get off my lawn.
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 10:56 PM
Steph = Dixie?
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 11:02 PM
B-b-but ladypower guys...
Lol, what say you, Tom?
Steph is probably the greatest single reason I have for distaste of Authority storylines or anything involving her. As errbody's said, Haitch
actually shows ass once in a while. Hell, Vince did too en masse once upon a time, even as recent as the dumbass stuff he did with Reigns. When was
the last time Steph genuinely did the honors or ate shit for a reasonable amount of time for a story? The last thing I can really remember was her
getting slop tossed by an outgoing Vickie Guerrero.
Look, as one of the primer racisogynists of the bOOards, I would like nothing better than to see old skool Misogyny Trance Bubba Ray powerbomb her off
the top of the Titantron through aboot 10 flaming tables but I understand in this, The Sensitive Era , that shit ain't gonna happen, even
though they've otherwise marketed her as an exercise badass. If they could get away with a dude slapping her back, the only one "qualified"
would be Shane since he's family. Yes, I know that's not "right" but this is a hick sport and the metrics of justice work a bit
differently here. And if not Shane, why not have her eat ass for Sasha, Becky, or Paige? Besides, LU isn't all cunty aboot man on female action
and dear sweet Bayley just Bayley-to-Belly'd Bobby Roode the other day, so...the fuck was I rambling aboot...oh yeah, punching women in the
face. Right.
TL;DR - Steph is skewing the results of any and all physical conflicts in her favor by being untouchable and it is doing nothing of the same to anyone
she's opposing and it's fucking tiresome. Looks like I may be switching to Smackdown.
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 11:11 PM
quote:Originally posted by Katie Vick killer
One of the commentators should have really pushed the fact that Ambrose hooked Rollins leg and that both sets of shoulders were down.
Pretty sure throughout the entire after match shmozz, JBL (for reasons that boggle the mind, as the heel commentator) was saying just this...
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 11:21 PM
SD should draft Nia Jax with her sole role being to be the the chick who slaps Steph back.
Get off my lawn.
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posted on 7-19-2016 at 11:52 PM
quote:Originally posted by DKBroiler
But 2 things ...
Steph's titties.
[Edited on 7-19-2016 by DKBroiler]
Even those oversized silicone monstrosities combined can't match the overinflation of her own sense of self-worth. But hey, bewbs.
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posted on 7-20-2016 at 12:04 AM
quote:Originally posted by CM Crunk
quote:Originally posted by DKBroiler
But 2 things ...
Steph's titties.
[Edited on 7-19-2016 by DKBroiler]
Even those oversized silicone monstrosities combined can't match the overinflation of her own sense of self-worth. But hey, bewbs.
Agreed, errbody. Agreed.
Fuck Everybody
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posted on 7-20-2016 at 12:11 AM
quote:Originally posted by CM Crunk
quote:Originally posted by DKBroiler
But 2 things ...
Steph's titties.
[Edited on 7-19-2016 by DKBroiler]
Even those oversized silicone monstrosities combined can't match the overinflation of her own sense of self-worth. But hey, bewbs.
Ultimate big fake phoney funbags diss moment at about 6:10.
[Edited on 7/19/2016 by Paddlefoot]
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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posted on 7-20-2016 at 12:14 AM
Maybe John Cena can dust off his little black book and make some phone calls. Recast Stephanie with
Kendra Lust. (SFW-ish*)
*I can at least guarantee it's not someone flaunting their GI tract
, that shit ain't gonna happen, even
though they've otherwise marketed her as an exercise badass. If they could get away with a dude slapping her back, the only one "qualified"
would be Shane since he's family. Yes, I know that's not "right" but this is a hick sport and the metrics of justice work a bit
differently here. And if not Shane, why not have her eat ass for Sasha, Becky, or Paige? Besides, LU isn't all cunty aboot man on female action
and dear sweet Bayley just Bayley-to-Belly'd Bobby Roode the other day, so...the fuck was I rambling aboot...oh yeah, punching women in the
face. Right. 
