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Subject: OOfficial Discussion Thread for: SmackDown LIVE (July 26, 2016)
G. Jonah Jameson
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 02:59 AM
Oh snap. With a rubber match fairly inevitable for John Cena and AJ Styles, I figured that match was Bray Wyatt's to lose. So the participants
in the title matches at Summerslam are Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, Dolph Ziggler and Finn Balor. Somebody go back in time and tell early-2014
"Batista wins the Royal Rumble" IWC to be patient.
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 02:59 AM
I'm a bit behind on DVR.
Eva Marie ... Super Heel. For the love of God put her with ReBoooo.
Get off my lawn.
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 03:03 AM
I'm not upset that Ziggler won, though it doesn't really have a "Big 4" feel to it. But, more than anything, I really hope they get the
endings right for Smackdown. That 7 minutes after the match kept making me think something was going to happen and...nothing. Hopefully in a few
episodes after they realize they aren't taped anymore they'll get it right.
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 03:04 AM
A guy resusciating his career in one night makes just as much sense as a new guy shocking the world and beating most of the top guys in one night.Not
quite as exciting, but it's not breaking the suspension of disbelief either.
Also, Eddie Guerrero went from feuding with Chavo in an 8 minute ppv match to facing Brock fucking Lesnar for the WWE Championship. So whatever,
janerd75
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 03:05 AM
quote:Originally posted by DKBroiler
I'm a bit behind on DVR.
Eva Marie ... Super Heel. For the love of God put her with ReBoooo.
ReBoob. And that, kids, is how it's done.
The science is settled: Fuck Everybody
Old Man Crunk with an early candidate for line of the night re: Nia Jaxx. "Face like Pam Grier, body like Rosey Grier."
CM Crunk
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 03:08 AM
Well, that was... something. Kinda hard to top last nights Raw, but as was mentioned earlier by others, the strength of Smackdown's roster
isn't quite at Raw's level. At least not yet. Aside from some new faces, teases for returning and debuting ones, and a genuinely
surprising finish to the main event it kinda just felt "samey."
Was really waiting for the other shoe to drop with that awkward post-main event celebration. Mainly for Ziggler to superkick Dean, or something. Kinda
felt weird having Bryan and Shane shoehorn themselves into the celebration as well. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for Ziggler and hope
this is the start of a reboot for him but I was still left wanting more.
I wonder if I'd feel differently if Raw RAM hadn't knocked it out of the park last night.
The issue was that SD was hyped as being something different to make up for the lack of star power. Instead it was the same feel with just different
guys.
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 03:20 AM
Studying Eva Marie's moveset in detail.
Plus the thread needed more boobies.
Edit: Janerd had the same idea, only better. Whatever. Can't really have too many boobies.
[Edited on 7-27-2016 by Quentil]
merc
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 03:21 AM
Color me confused OO wankers. Wasn't Dolph the guy declared future world champion right here on the interwebs? Then ya'll saw something
new and shiney and forgots about him...
You F'n new penny whores.
I'm not a huge fan, but glad he gets a shot, he deserves it.
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 03:23 AM
quote:Originally posted by CM Crunk
Kinda felt weird having Bryan and Shane shoehorn themselves into the celebration as well.
Their glad-handing and ultra-cheery "rah rah" vibe is aleady starting to annoy me. Although I'm also entertained by the "Ambiguously Gay
Duo" vibe I also get from them. So there's that.
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 03:26 AM
I'll agree to that sentiment and say by the end of the show, I was already wishing Bryan would stop leading a "Yes" chant every time he came
out. It's much nicer when spontaneous, or at least used a bit more sparingly.
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 03:29 AM
I'm not going to criticize the start of a show that already has Ambrose, Bray, AJ, Ziggles, Miz, Cena, and now Shelton on it. It's like a
Richter-scale level of exponential spot-fests in the making just from adding Shelton, and Rhyno too, to it. Time to admit that despite some of the
booking problems they will have, because they've always had booking problems and probably always will, that both weekly shows now have the
potential to become very good, if not excellent if they stay on course. Fine tuning will occur as time goes by but the legendary Smackdown Six of yore
didn't happen overnight either. SD will need a couple of weeks or months to shake off the doldrums of the old taped format but there's no
reason to think that it won't find it's own feet in due order.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 03:31 AM
quote:Originally posted by merc
Color me confused OO wankers. Wasn't Dolph the guy declared future world champion right here on the interwebs? Then ya'll saw something
new and shiney and forgots about him...
You F'n new penny whores.
I'm not a huge fan, but glad he gets a shot, he deserves it.
Ha! See that's what I'm feeling right now. Like I should be much happier. But while I have absolutely NO problem with them hotshotting
Dolph into a World Title program, I just have a hard time truly enjoying the moment since he's been marginalized for so long. This is simply an
act of kneejerkery on my part, but I still welcome the build in front of us. Ziggler has all the ability needed to make this work, and if they decide
to veer him off into heeldom, I see no reason why Dean vs. Dolph couldn't be a sleeper match come Summerfest.
Also just let me say that even though I was a little underwhelmed by tonights inaugural episode, I am FAR from writing the show off as so many in the
OOutside IWC seem to be right now. RAM may have come out swinging last night -- and here's hoping they can sustain that momentum -- but I have a
feeling we'll have a better idea of what Smackdown is going to be once we get into the split-PPVs. Nothing wrong with a slow burn.
I think the lukewarm reaction is to be expected. Ziggler just hadn't had a good year so far, this is a great jumping point to move past it but
it'll take time to fully get the jobber to the stars stink off him.
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 03:46 AM
I will agree about Dolph. I -want- him to really vault into the main event at last and stay there, but boy, he's been circling around it for a
long, long time and it's hard to believe that this time it's for real. My heart was with Bray, so anyone other than him was going to be
disappointing, but Dolph's not the worst option by any means.
Having only watched NXT sporadically, has Eva Marie always had that voiceover entrance? Because that shit is heel gold right there. Her coming out to
that and just showing her body rather than cutting a promo was, in fact, a very effective intro to her character. Kudos.
Rhyno and his stubby T-rex arms were welcome back. I see a Shelton Benjamin superkick in Heath's future.
[Edited on 7-27-2016 by GodEatGod]
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 03:47 AM
I'll give Smackdown a break in finding their footing, especially in comparison to last night's RAM, but otherwise my feelings aboot both
shows and wrasslin' in general right now can be summed up by this moving picture here:
ETA: Also, this. For the children:
[Edited on 7-27-2016 by janerd75]
The science is settled: Fuck Everybody
Old Man Crunk with an early candidate for line of the night re: Nia Jaxx. "Face like Pam Grier, body like Rosey Grier."
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 04:20 AM
May I also say I fully co-sign on Eva Marie's low-rider-to-the-point-of-almost-showing-the-vag ring shorts.
Will be interested to see what Shelton brings. They were showing all of his amazing MitB spots but I'm wondering if he'll still be the
same guy 10 or so years later. Although I guess guys like Hardy (and AJ for that matter) are still doing their flippy shit near 40 so who knows.
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 04:22 AM
A cursory glance of the interwebz indicates that tonights Smackdown was the worst thing to happen in the history of ever. Geez. Csonka over on 411,
who is normally pretty hyper-critical in even the best of moods, is stating that Smackdown "shit the bed." I don't know. This all seems a
wee-bit reactionary.
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 04:36 AM
quote:Originally posted by GodEatGod
Having only watched NXT sporadically, has Eva Marie always had that voiceover entrance? Because that shit is heel gold right there. Her coming out to
that and just showing her body rather than cutting a promo was, in fact, a very effective intro to her character. Kudos.
[Edited on 7-27-2016 by GodEatGod]
I will totally second this. That Mister Moviephone Voiceover Of Gold was so brilliantly over-the-top that
I hope she finally has the boo....er moves to go with it.
Originally posted by williamssl
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 04:45 AM
As one of the few inhabitants of the old Smackdown thread, it's still a little weird seeing the show generate this much discussion. Ziggler and
Balor wrestling for the WWE titles at SummerSlam? Rhyno and Shelton Benjamin back in the WWE? People actually talking about Smackdown? These are
strange times, strange times indeed.
And I agree with most of what's been said so far, that tonight's show wasn't as "knock it out of the park" good as RAW was, but
there's still a lot of potential. I was pulling for Styles in the main event, but no complaints here about Ziggler. It was definitely from out
of nowhere, but it's great to see him actually put in a high-profile spot and there's any number of ways they can go with him against
Ambrose.
Also, say what you want about Eva Marie's wrestling/talking abilities, or lack thereof, but after that entrance tonight I'm, uh, okay with
her being on my TV.
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 04:53 AM
Almost everything about SD was ''wait and see''
The Women stand off, the rapid fire repush for Dolph, the weird drawn out segment to end the show. Mixed in with the same old boring presentation and
the huge expectations leads to some negative results.
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 05:06 AM
Full post-Natalya burial. Eva Marie entrance at 1:40
Don't Mess With Texas
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 07:39 AM
Smackdown discussion is three pages in almost five hours after the end of the show. It was a pretty dang good show too. I agree with whoever said the
Smackdown Six didn't happen overnight. Give this split a second. I wish they had held off until after Summer Slam though. And am I wrong, or
did they announce that the first Smackdown Network Exclusive Special Backlash! was on the same week as opening week of the NFL? I would say that looks
short sided at the very least. If you're going against the biggest dog, go with your biggest dog, right?
And RAM is still the biggest dog kids....
nOOb
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 11:42 AM
I guess here's my biggest reason for not really caring about the Ziggler win: it took a brand split for him to get the shot. If this was
happening, say, after a Big 4 PPV where he was on a team and, while being on that team (which may or may not have been fighting to change who
controlled Raw...because Raw was still a thing before this hot new RAM show), he wound up overcoming 4-on-1 odds to become the sole survivor, then I
would say that World Title shot would be very well written.
But, to the best of my knowledge, WWE has never had such a match and, if they did, they would probably just have had him feud with Luke Harper for the
IC Title instead.
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posted on 7-27-2016 at 07:35 PM
quote:Originally posted by Count Zero
quote:Originally posted by GodEatGod
Having only watched NXT sporadically, has Eva Marie always had that voiceover entrance? Because that shit is heel gold right there. Her coming out to
that and just showing her body rather than cutting a promo was, in fact, a very effective intro to her character. Kudos.
[Edited on 7-27-2016 by GodEatGod]
I will totally second this. That Mister Moviephone Voiceover Of Gold was so brilliantly over-the-top that
I hope she finally has the boo....er moves to go with it.
Well, we now know Cryme Tyme's voiceover guy still has a job in
WWE.
Anyway, it was a solid show. Eva Marie's entrance was spectacular, Randy Orton has shown more personalty the last 2 nights than he has in his
entire career and Dolph wins setting up him vs. Ambrose, which I can get into. The new camera angles and panning were nice added touches to give it a
different feel from a typical WWE show. No ramp way and a couple of other slight changes so you can essentially keep the same set for cost effect
purposes, but have some differences between shows.
Now for the not so good. Battle royals are what they are. The lack of titles show that this brand will go downhill in a hurry and become boring real
fast.
The whole womens match + post-segment(Eva Marie's glorious entrance excluded) describes WWE's shitty creative in a nuthshell. You have a
rematch from the PPV which had absolutely no reason to exist because they idiotically jobbed Becky clean, never bothered to give a reason why these
two are fighting again, and then do a finish which should have been the finish to the PPV match. To top it all off, you do the post segment which,
while a solid way to introduce all your female talent, makes the match pointless. Just use the Smackdown finish at Battleground, so you can then have
Becky come out on Smackdown, say she is looking for a fight and then have each woman interrupt and introduce themselves. YOu have a top face looking
strong with a new bunch of challengers ready to battle. What we got was a pointless match at Battleground, Nattie going out and absolutely stinking up
the joint on Smackdown, and Becky's win rendered forgotten because of the post match stuff. They could not have booked that more lazily. Calling
that half-assed would be generous.
