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Trump's Cabinet Picks
Thought maybe we could get a separate thread for all of his picks...?
One that caught my is Rick Perry being a possibility for The Dept of Energy. Here is a fantastic and depressing looking into this option.
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/rick-perrys-glasses-qualify-him-for-important-science-p-1790028725
"The former Texas governor sits on two corporate boards - one of them is Energy Transfer Partners - and that may present a confirmation issue.
Energy Transfer Partners has a subsidiary known as Dakota Access LLC, which is attempting to build the Dakota Access Pipeline.
In other words, Rick Perry is a figurehead on a few boards that very tangentially have to do with �energy.�
And how does that compare to the current Secretary of Energy�s qualifications? Ernest Moniz, a former professor at MIT, �served as Head of the
Department of Physics and as Director of the Bates Linear Accelerator Center. His principal research contributions have been in theoretical nuclear
physics and in energy technology and policy studies.� So, you know, basically the same thing."
Edit - Serious question - Do any conservatives here look at this and say "What the fucking fuck?" Like is disdain for Clinton so high that nobody
cares what he does. Shit like this just makes me scratch my head.
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merc
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Before I start, since I'm recognized as a 'conservative" on these boards. I did a google search to see what the list was. The first two
pages of results were all how we are doomed by nominees type sites. I never did find a fox news list, so there ya go - another example of political
influencing in an area you'd never consider- the good folks at Google.
The first list I found was halfway down page 3, so via National Public Radio, not exactly a neutral perspective here is their summary of nominees so
far (my comments in parenthesis):
The following is a list of key cabinet and other nominations made so far by Trump, who takes office on Jan. 20:
Cabinet
Attorney General: Jeff Sessions, 69
One of Trump's earliest supporters during the campaign, the anti-immigration senator from Alabama has a much-criticized record on race relations
and was once denied a judgeship amid concerns over past comments about blacks. The attorney general heads the department of justice.
(merc comment- I am opposed; there are som many better choices. His worst pick so far)
Commerce: Wilbur Ross, 79
A US asset investor and billionaire, Ross is best known for investing in failing steel and coal firms and selling them for profit. He was once known
as the "king of bankruptcy" for his history of investing in such businesses.
(mc- I am a fan of Ross, having watched him for years on CNBC. His insights are common sense. But 79 is awfully old and "commerce" may not be
what it was when he was in his hey day. I'd put him as an ugrade to the current Secretary, a billionaire, daughter of the Hyatt founder, hedge
fund operator and Obama buddy from Chicago.)
Defense: James Mattis, 66
A retired four-star Marine general, Mattis commanded US forces in the Middle East and Southwest Asia from 2010 to 2013, capping a career as a combat
commander that earned him the nickname "Mad Dog." A scholar of warfare, he is said to have a particular interest in the challenge posed by Iran. To
become secretary of defense, Mattis would have to get a congressional waiver from a law that bars generals from serving as defense secretary for seven
years after leaving active duty.
(mc- as written this description seems like a good nominee. I am uneducated to have an opinion on better options)
Education: Betsy DeVos, 58
A wealthy activist and Republican megadonor from Michigan, DeVos is a champion of alternatives to local government schools, backing a movement that
advocates the use of tax credits and vouchers to allow parents to opt out of the public school system.
(mc- as a product of public schools I see nothing wrong with them or the newer concept of magnet schools. Tax vouchers don't offend me either.
So someone who supports all options is fine. I'd rather see money allocated closer to the community than DC.)
Health and Human Services: Tom Price, 62
The Georgia lawmaker and former orthopedic surgeon is a robust critic of President Barack Obama's signature health care reform law, the
Affordable Care Act, which has provided health coverage to 20 million Americans.
(mc- missing from this analysis is the man's credentials as an opponent who has presented different options to ACA. I think this is
Trump's most solid nomination - based on background for job description - as opposed to political slant)
Homeland Security: John Kelly, 66
The retired Marine general most recently led the US Southern Command, which covers US military operations in Central and South America. He is expected
to be very tough on illegal immigration and the illicit drugs trade. He also has been shaped by the death of his son, a Marine, in Afghanistan in
2010.
(mc- this is a department I opposed from day 1. It is a waste of taxpayer money. Anyone not interested in eliminating it I dislike)
Housing and Urban Development: Ben Carson, 65
The retired neurosurgeon and onetime rival to Trump for the Republican presidential nomination are so far the only African American named to
Trump's cabinet. The religious conservative with no experience in elective office, who grew up poor in Detroit, will be tasked with turning
around America's troubled inner cities.
(mc- I like Dr. Carson- had a chance to meet him during primary season. He seemed thoughtful and interested in life experiences. That said, I
WTF'd this nomination)
Labor: Andrew Puzder, 66
The chief executive of CKE Restaurants, which owns fast food chains Carl's Jr and Hardee's, is opposed to raising the national minimum
wage. He also backs the increasing use of automated technology to keep labor costs down. Puzder also supports a path to legal status for undocumented
immigrants.
(mc- no need for a national minimum wage, free markets are driving it up on their own, technology has always reduced labor costs, there should be a
way for illegal imigrants to obtain legal status without leaving the country. So I guess I like this guy)
Transportation: Elaine Chao, 63
The Taiwan-born former US labor secretary under president George W. Bush also served as the deputy secretary of transportation in his administration.
She was the first Asian-American woman to serve in the cabinet and is the wife of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.
(mc- Brilliant nominee! If Price isn't his best, then Chao is)
Treasury: Steven Mnuchin, 53
The Wall Street veteran was a partner at Goldman Sachs before he launched an investment fund backed by Democratic Party supporter George Soros and
financed Hollywood blockbusters like "Avatar" and "Suicide Squad."
(mc- there are far better people on the surface. Maybe his far left ties add value to moving the agenda?)
end of website comments
So that's the actual nominee list so far. As I count is I am 3 good, 2 bad and 5 neutral with 5 to go. For comp purposes there are 4 Obama
cabinet members I think were good choices, 4 I dislike and 7 mehs.
As to Perry, he's an oil guy; any Secretary with a singular focus is a bad pick. I'd suggest you did a little deeper into Moniz instead
of accepting what a liberal agenda website published. It might help you understand why the Obama administration has propped up Solar power. Sadly,
nothing is ever as simple as it seems.
ETA BBCode was screwing with me
[Edited on 12-13-2016 by merc]
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BBMN
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I guess that answered my question. Even a fairly well read and rational Conservative can look at Perry's potential pick and be like "Well you
see.... Obama...."
Seriously? That's your answer? Rick Perry being a possible pick elicits no true confusion, disgust, or negativity. It all comes back to Obama.
I'm trying to be civil here dude, but for fuck's sake... Seriously. A corporate board man with no true understanding of nuclear weaponry
might be put in charge of the largest and most terrifying nuclear stockpile on Earth, as a replacement to a physicist from MIT, and your first thought
is "Liberal media" following closely by "Obama...."
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merc
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Sorry if that's all you got out of it.
Me think Rick Perry bad choice to work government.
That easier for,you to understand?
FFS
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Attorney General: Jeff Sessions, 69
A man deemed so racist that he lost his nomination to be a U.S. Circuit Court judge. He was accused of calling the NAACP and the ACLU "un-American",
repeatedly called an African-American assistant U.S. attorney "boy", and said that he thought the "KKK was OK until I heard they smoke marijuana".
He's also fervently anti-immigration, anti-gay, and anti-choice. He also was supportive of Trump even after Trump's "grab them by the
pussy" controversy, saying it was merely "improper language".
He's a hateful throwback to the 1950's and he can suck a bag of dicks for all I care.
Commerce: Wilbur Ross, 79
A Palm Beach socialite and billionaire best known for buying the Sago coal mine in West Virginia, breaking up the union, and then watching as 13
miners died because this greedy cunt cut costs by reducing safety standards.
In 2005, the feds had cited Sago Mine Number One for 208 safety violations, 96 considered �serious and substantial,� including roof falls, improper
ventilation, blocked escape passages and piles of combustible materials. Nineteen days before catastrophe struck, a federal inspector had cited the
company for �a high degree of negligence� for allowing potentially explosive coal dust to accumulate in the mine.
He never made any comment after the mine explosion and never offered condolences to the miners' families. He's made billions of dollars on
the backs of the working man, but couldn't give two shits about them.
Again, this guy can fuck right off and when he gets there he can fuck right off again.
Defense: James Mattis, 66
I'm guessing he was chosen because Trump thought his nickname "Mad Dog" sounded cool. He was fired by Obama as Commander of CentCom for
reasons described as "murky". Also, the idea of a recently retired general running a civilian agency muddies the water of "civilian control of the
military".
Not the worst choice, but not the best.
Education: Betsy DeVos, 58
This bitch right here...
Another millionaire on Trump's "populist" cabinet. She is arguably the most conservative on his whole cabinet. Her family is arguably the most
responsible for the rise of the Christian Right, and that ultra-conservative Christian worldview informs her choices. She has stated that "public
education reform is a way to advance God's kingdom". She supports the school voucher program because she despises secularism and believes that
public school's teach godless liberalism. Public school reform and schools vouchers are merely a way to undermine public education so that
everyone has to attend private Christian schools where they are taught that gays and non-believers are evil and liberal ideas are the Devil's
work.
Please keep in mind that Jerry Fucking Falwell Jr. was Trump's first choice for this position.
Fuck her with a flaming dildo.
Health and Human Services: Tom Price, 62
This is a man who is hellbent on systematically destroying any health safety net for the American people.
He wants to dismantle the ACA, supports slashing Medicare and Medicaid, and wants to withdraw federal funding for Planned Parenthood which provides
affordable health services to millions of poor women.
I hope he gets herpes in his throat.
Homeland Security: John Kelly, 66
Another former general heading up a civilian agency. A minor quibble, but nevertheless.
He is another fervent opponent of immigration especially from Mexico and the Middle East. He is on record as stating "Colombia showed us the way" in
regards to bringing about peace, prosperity, and stability. Meanwhile, after a 30 year civil war, Colombia has 7 million of their population
displaced, anda heavily funded paramilitary and death squads that act with impunity to "keep order". He believes in a fusion of police and military
which should make everyone who thinks blacks lives DON'T matter very happy.
He's also quite outspoken about opposing "political correctness" which means he is upset that he can't act and talk like and asshole all
the time.
He's Trump's Heinrich Himmler.
Housing and Urban Development: Ben Carson, 65
Really? I mean really? Did Trump see the word "urban" and immediately think of the first black guy?
This man originally turned down a cabinet position because he said he "lacked experience" in the federal government. However, he tried to run for
president. He is a medical doctor with no experience in government and no experience in funding grants, housing, or city planning.
Doesn't he know the only black guy in the horror movie is always the first one to die?
Labor: Andrew Puzder, 66
His company has been frequently cited for "serious" violations of worker safety laws. His company is also notorious for failing to pay his workers
overtime. He opposes a national minimum wage and hates unions.
Oh, and he was accused of domestic assault for throwing his estranged wife to ground and punching her repeatedly
Just another billionaire asshole who I am just suuuureee will work hard for the working man.
Transportation: Elaine Chao, 63
Senator Mitch McConnell's wife. A classic Washington insider, she has moved back and forth between government jobs, banks, and think tanks. She
once worked as an investment banker, which ranks just below human sex trafficker on the list of most evil occupations in the world.
For a president-elect who claimed he was going to "drain the swamp", he sure has a lot of billionaires, millionaires, generals, and Washington
insiders in his cabinet.
Treasury: Steven Mnuchin, 53
He's a banker and hedge fund manager (ew!). He has zero experience in government. (Remember when conservatives knocked Obama for "lack of
experience" HAHAHA). We also know NOTHING about his views - political or otherwise.
Moreover, there is nothing that differentiates him from any of the other hundreds and hundreds of bankers and hedge fund managers with similar resumes
other than he served as Trump's chief fundraising manager during the campaign.
He's probably going to be another pro-Wall Street shill like most everyone else in Trump's administration.
Secretary of State: Rex Tillerson, 64
Another billionaire. He's the CEO of Exxon Mobil. He's best buds with Vlad Putin - even winning the "Order of Friendship" medal from
him. He has strong, troubling ties to Russia through his numerous oil deals with the government there. He's another climate change denier saying
that he �doesn�t trust any models that predict certain changes in global temperatures and climate."
I mean this is such a bad pick that even Republicans like Marco Rubio are preparing to challenge his appointment.
Environment Protection Agency: Scott Pruitt, 48
The man hates the EPA. He is actually SUING the agency that he has been picked to run.
He has close ties to the fossil fuel industry. He is an outspoken climate change denier and wants to roll back the Clean Power Plan. He has tried to
block federal protections against toxic pollutants by claiming they are "bad for business".
Again, he is so bad that the former head of the EPA under George W. Bush - hardly a tree hugger - has criticized his nomination.
The guy is a scumbag asshole, and I hope he chokes on a glob of toxic tar.
So for all of Trump's promises of "draining the swamp" and fighting for the working class, he has populated his administration with
billionaires, millionaires, and retired generals. They all hate poor people, gay people, brown and black people, and non-evangelical Christian
people.
This is the least diverse cabinet since 1989. Almost all white males.
The good news is....well, fuck it...
[Edited on 12-13-2016 by CCharger]
[Edited on 12-13-2016 by CCharger]
"She was warned. She was given an explanation. Nevertheless, she persisted."
"The powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned."
--- Stephen Miller, Trump senior White House advisor, Feb. 12, 2017
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This might be useful for tracking purposes:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-administration-appointee-tracker/database/
Since you missed a couple
Environmental Protection Agency
Administrator
Scott Pruitt
Small Business Administration
Administrator
Linda McMahon
Central Intelligence Agency
Director
Michael Pompeo
2017 where Nazis are defended and being against Fascism is a bad thing.
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BBMN
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quote:
Originally posted by merc
Sorry if that's all you got out of it.
Me think Rick Perry bad choice to work government.
That easier for,you to understand?
FFS
Then why mention Moniz, "liberal agenda", and Obama?
As for being a bad pick... that's like saying going from a brand new Rolls Royce to a used Ford Tempo is a bad move. And then babbling something
about "Obama and those damn liberals!"
I truly thought this mention of Perry being in the running for anything would be met by disgust and disdain by all. But it's just kinda bad I
guess in your eyes. You basically spent the entire post not discussing this insanity, only to tack it on at the end, and you had to toss a cherry on
top with Obama.
How you don't understand this to be bizarre and frustrating is beyond my ability, unless I'm supposed to simply understand that you really
don't have any shock or disgust or disdain by this potential move. On a scale of 1 to WTF, Perry is about an 8 for me, whereas he registers as
"not good & Obama & liberals" for you... I guess that equates to maybe a 4?
CAN YOU DISCUSS PERRY WITHOUT REFERENCING LIBERALS, LIBERAL AGENDA, or OBAMA?
The answer is no. No you can not. And this I can not grasp. OBAMA IS NOT THE NEXT PRESIDENT IN CASE YOU MISSED THAT. THERE IS NO INHERENT NEED TO LINK
EVERYTHING BACK TO HIM IN A NEVER ENDING GAME OF RED VS BLUE. PLEASE STOP THAT. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO MENTION HIM IN THIS THREAD. THERE IS NO PURPOSE
OTHER THAN DEFLECTION AND IT IS NOT WORKING.
It numbs the mind.
"Man it's so cold out.... can't feel my face. Obama"
"Sure, The Walking Dead kinda sucks now, but still, Obama sucks too."
"This steak is burnt. Something something... liberal media agenda bias Obama!"
Edit - "That easier for,you to understand?"
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Paddlefoot
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I'm glad Mattis is there. When a coup d'etat becomes inevitable, and necessary too, he'll be there to guide it through with a firm
and steady hand. I almost hate saying it*, but at this stage a military take-over of the US might be necessary given that republican democracy,
baby-boomers and afterwards, has pretty much completely failed. The military is one of the few institutions remaining that isn't completely
disgraced, as opposed to Congress, so military rule might not be that bad. Maintain control for a decade or so, force a second Constitutional
convention to rebuild the institutions, re-regulate the financial & corporate sectors under the harshest rules requires, and most of all drive the
big-money out of the system altogether.
Look up "Steve Mnuchin foreclosure factory" just for laughs. I guess punishing Goldman Sachs as Trump kept saying on the campaign trail really meant
giving governmental control to one of it's most vicious and heinous executives.
* nah, I don't hate saying it at all, the first stage of American democracy is over; a renewal needs to happen, not to keep it from falling into
fascism but to get rid of that infestation of plutocracy that's been spreading out from the financial sector since Reagan - what the fuck did
you guys kick the British out for if you were just going to make up an aristocracy of bankers to take over and wreck everything for you later?
[Edited on 12/14/2016 by Paddlefoot]
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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bopol
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CC hit most of the highlights. Of the ones I know, the choices aren't good. Perry is dumber than a brick, so it makes sense that a guy that
failed sophomore organic chemistry will be running the agency that manages our national labs. Carson is an idiot savant, but he was nice to merc, so
two strikes against him (just kidding merc, you know I love you). DeVos is the type that makes a name for herself by 'fighting that liberal
agenda' and will ignore the data that says that private schools do not yield better results than public schools. Ditto Price on healthcare.
Sessions has a history of racism.
Some of the others I don't know much about. Like CC, I'm not a big fan of military leaders in civilian roles (especially after the
failures of Colin Powell). Honestly, corporate guys are hard to read because it is often times to separate within a particular corporate culture to
whether or not they can effectively manage a different type of organization. The Tillerson pick just baffles me because I can't really make
sense on why he would be a good pick for SoS given his background.
If the Democrats have a clue (TBD if they do), they should be able to make some political hay during the hearings and define these guys as elitist,
out of touch with America (or in Perry's case, just plain stupid). Since many don't have national reputations, this will be their first
impression on Americans and that likely will stick. That said, Democrats.
To the original post, do Conservatives care if the picks are bad? No. It's their team. The players on their team are the good guys (even if
they go home and beat their wives) and the players on the other team are the bad guys (even if they go visit sick kids in hospitals). American
politics has been reduced to the Yankees vs. the Red Sox.
I only signed up so I can read the forum.
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merc
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Actually BBMN I was trying to give a point of reference, as I'm really not a conservative, nor am I thrilled with who will be future president.
I've accepted the reality and moved on. A point of reference would be like comparing people to cars, only picking the one you like as a British
car in the showroom and the opponent to a college kids car in lot e of The university of Florida. If a person pretends they are not lamenting pro/con
about the shiny British car is not only transparent, but hypocritical.
As to our future president Some of his nominees seem really bizarre, which in politics is B.A.D. I just don't throw FUCK AND ASSHOLE AND CUNT
around like people who have a hard time controlling their emotions and difficulty communicating civilly without attacking others.
if you read each word, which I typed very slowly just for you, you would have understood that I don't hate all current president cabinet, nor
like most of future president. I also don't use inflammatory descriptors of people I don't actually interact with. So "bad", "not
good", & "disappointing" are about as harsh as you will get from me about his political selections.
I typed the preceding really really slowly. Hopefully you looked beyond labels and got it. Regardless, I'm done engaging with you on this
topic.
Bo, who are the Yankees?
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janerd75
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And here we see Mr. Trump meeting with another prospective HHS cabinet pick. Mr. West's expertise lies in psychiatric care. It has also been
verified by reliable sources that his "life is dope and he does dope shit."
"It will happen when it happens and not a moment before." - Me
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bopol
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quote:
Originally posted by merc
Actually BBMN I was trying to give a point of reference, as I'm really not a conservative, nor am I thrilled with who will be future president.
I've accepted the reality and moved on. A point of reference would be like comparing people to cars, only picking the one you like as a British
car in the showroom and the opponent to a college kids car in lot e of The university of Florida. If a person pretends they are not lamenting pro/con
about the shiny British car is not only transparent, but hypocritical.
As to our future president Some of his nominees seem really bizarre, which in politics is B.A.D. I just don't throw FUCK AND ASSHOLE AND CUNT
around like people who have a hard time controlling their emotions and difficulty communicating civilly without attacking others.
if you read each word, which I typed very slowly just for you, you would have understood that I don't hate all current president cabinet, nor
like most of future president. I also don't use inflammatory descriptors of people I don't actually interact with. So "bad", "not
good", & "disappointing" are about as harsh as you will get from me about his political selections.
I typed the preceding really really slowly. Hopefully you looked beyond labels and got it. Regardless, I'm done engaging with you on this
topic.
Bo, who are the Yankees?
A baseball team that plays in New York City.
I only signed up so I can read the forum.
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GodEatGod
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I don't get outraged by the picks because they're exactly what I expected. This is the package Trump advertised. Private business people
with no government experience, hawkish foreign policy and defense positions, retrograde stances on social issues. Once Trump was elected (and yeah,
there's obviously shady Russian bullshit there, but that's not what this thread is about), then he gets to pick who he hires. Congress
will get to approve 'em, but, guess what, the electorate put a Republican congress in, too.
Beyond the partisan and position issues, the most egregious ones are probably Carson, Perry, Sessions and the guy he picked today for Secretary of
State. Sessions because he's a racist piece of shit. The other three because they have no experience in the areas to which they're being
appointed and don't seem like they have any understanding of the issues involved with the jobs.
"It is an impressively arrogant move to conclude that just because you don't like something, it is empirically not good. I don't like
Chinese food, but I don't write articles trying to prove it doesn't exist." - Tina Fey
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Paddlefoot
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quote:
Originally posted by GodEatGod The other three because they have no experience in the areas to which they're being appointed and
don't seem like they have any understanding of the issues involved with the jobs.
Given the prevailing meta is to make as much money as possible I doubt any of them even care about the issues. The only fun that's going to come
out of any of this is if one of them makes a decision or cuts a deal or whatever and then Trump arbitrarily wipes out their effort completely with an
insane late-night tweetstorm.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
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bopol
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quote:
Originally posted by Paddlefoot
quote:
Originally posted by GodEatGod The other three because they have no experience in the areas to which they're being appointed and
don't seem like they have any understanding of the issues involved with the jobs.
Given the prevailing meta is to make as much money as possible I doubt any of them even care about the issues. The only fun that's going to come
out of any of this is if one of them makes a decision or cuts a deal or whatever and then Trump arbitrarily wipes out their effort completely with an
insane late-night tweetstorm.
Don't underestimate the rich thinking they know more about anyone else on everything because they are rich. I have yet to find a rich person
that concedes they were lucky in any way in getting their wealth. It was all them and all hard work. Joining the right company at the right time
under the right boss didn't ever have anything to do with it.
I only signed up so I can read the forum.
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Paddlefoot
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The plutocracy is living proof that the United States are long overdue for an appearance by a home-grown Robespierre. And has been for a long time
too, like back when the Civil War created too many vile millionaires who made their money selling their garbage products to the Union Army. As the
song goes, if I had my way I'd have all of them shot. And I'm not even a communist either. I'm just someone who knows thoroughgoing
bastards when I smell one.
You know, everyone says it's not supposed to make sense, like that's the whole point, dude. And I'm just saying, you know,
that's like an excuse for lazy storytelling. Just don't sell me shite and tell me it's gold, all right? I might be stoned, but
I'm not high. You know what I mean?
- Cassidy from Preacher, commenting on The Big Lebowski and/or professional wrestling
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CCharger
The Great One
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Jeez, merc...I didn't think conservatives got triggered. Maybe you need to find a "safe space". Where do conservatives go for a "safe
space"? A cross burning? A "Pray the Gay Away" seminar? A dramatic reading of "Atlas Shrugged"?
Also, why is it that when conservatives are given facts that they don't agree with they immediately attack how those facts are conveyed? You
didn't respond at all to my post; you just complained I was too mean and used some no-no words.
"She was warned. She was given an explanation. Nevertheless, she persisted."
"The powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned."
--- Stephen Miller, Trump senior White House advisor, Feb. 12, 2017
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OOMike
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This isn't a cabinet pick, but Flynn as National Security Advisor, first the third ex-General, that has to be near a record. Plus he has been
known to mishandle classified information, knowingly sharing it with his mistress, how is the right that railed against Hillary for unknowingly
handling classified information on her private server, okay with this guy being the filter for all the US Intelligence?
2017 where Nazis are defended and being against Fascism is a bad thing.
Prejudices are rarely overcome by argument; not being founded in reason they cannot be destroyed by logic � Tryon Edwards
Never let the facts interfere with a good rant.
The only OO columnist that has never written a column.
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bopol
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quote:
Originally posted by OOMike
This isn't a cabinet pick, but Flynn as National Security Advisor, first the third ex-General, that has to be near a record. Plus he has been
known to mishandle classified information, knowingly sharing it with his mistress, how is the right that railed against Hillary for unknowingly
handling classified information on her private server, okay with this guy being the filter for all the US Intelligence?
She's a Democrat.
He's a Republican.
Sports Teams.
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Matte
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http://thehill.com/policy/technology/310321-trump-names-elon-musk-uber-ceo-to-advisory-team
quote:
Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk will join an advisory team for President-elect Donald Trump, Trump�s transition office announced Wednesday.
Uber CEO Travis Kalanick and Pepsi CEO Indra Nooyi will also join the President�s Strategic and Policy Forum.
"I'm a professional. I know exactly what I'm doing." - Jeff Hardy
Ultimate Finishing Move Showdown
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CCharger
The Great One
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All these CEOs and billionaire socialites....
The transition from democracy to corporatocracy has officially begun.
"She was warned. She was given an explanation. Nevertheless, she persisted."
"The powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned."
--- Stephen Miller, Trump senior White House advisor, Feb. 12, 2017
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merc
Man of a Thousand Holds
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quote:
Originally posted by bopol
quote:
Originally posted by merc
Bo, who are the Yankees?
A baseball team that plays in New York City.
OK I laughed at this. If you meant it sarcastically WELL PLAYED! If not, I meant which side do the Yankees represent D or R?
CC no conservative here to be triggered. But if I ignored your post, I sincerely hope you don't take offense to it. It had nothing to do with
this post, I've ignored most of your non-wrestling posts since tater tot passed.
"I wish sarcasm was available as a font." John Stuart Mill
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CCharger
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RIP TATER TOT
"She was warned. She was given an explanation. Nevertheless, she persisted."
"The powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned."
--- Stephen Miller, Trump senior White House advisor, Feb. 12, 2017
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Quentil
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Eh, his cabinet picks are exactly what any person with modest intelligence figured they would be: A bunch of mostly old white rich people who made
their money destroying the middle class and the environment. An equal mix of oil barons and military hacks, along with a dose of white supremacist.
Putting people into offices they want to destroy, just so they can destroy them within the system without having to worry about votes.
It is what it is. It's the new world nationalist way, paving the road for the inevitable next big war.
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bopol
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quote:
Originally posted by merc
quote:
Originally posted by bopol
quote:
Originally posted by merc
Bo, who are the Yankees?
A baseball team that plays in New York City.
OK I laughed at this. If you meant it sarcastically WELL PLAYED! If not, I meant which side do the Yankees represent D or R?
I wondered if you really didn't know what the Yankees were.
Given your geographic location and my impression of your politics, I would guess that the Red Sox would be Democrats and the Yankees Republican.
[Edited on 12-16-2016 by bopol]
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