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Author: Subject: OOfficial Discussion Thread for: RAW (April 17, 2017)
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posted on 4-17-2017 at 10:30 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
OOfficial Discussion Thread for: RAW (April 17, 2017)

Tonight on RAW: The Superstars have been Up-Shaken, and now we need to drill down and focus in on the line-up for Payback, in just 13 nights... interestingly, though this is a RAW-only PPV, it appears as though the top two matches will be for SD's two singles titles...

With Brock Lesnar (and thus, the WWEU Title) in a holding pattern, WWE has decided to have the WWE Title "House of Horrors" Match at Payback, with SD's Randy Orton defending it against RAW's Bray Wyatt... and SD acquired the US Title, but NOT necessarily the current champ Kevin Owens... Owens defends the title, as previously announced, agaynst Chris Jericho at Payback, and the holder of the title after that match becomes a full-time member of the SD roster...

This odd set of circumstances will certainly allow for Owens vs. Jericho to appear on RAW to advance their issue... but my guess is that Wyatt's presence on RAW will be more limited to one-sided promos -- something of a sidebar to lay the foundation for a feud with Finn Balor, perhaps, given last week's happenings, the unique possibilities of a "God" vs. "Demon" feud, and the fact that Balor himself will take it easy before launching the feud full-bore, due to being concussed last week by Jinder Mahal -- and his interactions with Orton logically limited to SD... we'll see..

The likely top match actually featuring only RAW stars is Roman Reigns vs. Braun Strowman... but it would not surprise me if they decided to hold off on that till the Extreme Rules PPV in 6 weeks, as that would allow them to add in a silly Ambulance Match stipulation, all while having Reigns take a week or two off to sell his "injuries".... it seems there are basically two camps with regards to the Reigns injury angle last week: (1) the kiddies and the true believers, who were truly horrified at how Strowman practically murderized Reigns, and (2) the rest of us who could see right through all the sloppy editing and overall campiness of the angle, but still decided to enjoy it on the grounds that pretending Roman Reigns is too injured to appear on TV is definitely grounds for suspension of disbelief....

So, see? Reigns taking a few weeks off satisfies BOTH camps! Let's do this, WWE! Six consecutive hours of RAW TV, and keep it mostly sunny with a 0% chance of Reigns!

In place of Reigns/Strowman, it'd be awesome to see Seth Rollins and Samoa Joe promoted to the top RAW-centric issue for a few weeks, possibly even serving as the main event at Payback (especially if the "House of Horrors" Match is overly gimmicky with pretapes and/or backstage/off-site bits)... it seems likely that new GM Kurt Angle will have a roll to play in this, as a huge supporter of Rollins, which naturally sets up for a return of HHH and Stephanie, and the ensuing power struggle...

IC Champ Dean Ambrose is now full-time on RAW... his non-title win over US Champ Owens last week was most likely a one-off thing... but his little scuffle with Miz probably wasn't... although Ambrose vs. Miz isn't exactly the freshest thing in the world, Miz is so red hot as a heel that having him win the IC Title would be a great start to elevating him to the main event level... and hey, you know what wouldn't suck as a lengthy show-opening verbal battle leading to a main event (either tonight or next Monday)? Ambrose & Jericho vs. Miz & Owens, that's what!

The Hardy Boyz are the tag champs, and so far, are mostly riding out a nostalgia vibe... but sooner or later, they'll have to let us in on what they can bring to the table, character- and story-wise (given TNA's attempted cockblocking)... regardless of how or if the Hardys freshen things up, it seems almost a given that the Revival are being groomed for a shot at the belts, with "Crazy Tables and Ladders Guys" going up against "Fists, Not Flips" in the Ultimate Battle of Stylistic Differences...

Bayley defending the Women's Title against Nia Jax seems like a done deal, at this point... the two had good chemsitry in NXT, and nothing's changed with regard to Bayley being the ultimate babyface and Jax being a Lady Beast.... wouldn't mind seeing Sasha Banks vs. Alexa Bliss develop as a major secondary women's feud; their paths never really crossed in NXT, and now with both strongly positioned, it's a rare Completely Fresh pairing of WWE's first generation of in-house female developmentals.... plus, it'd be a chance for Sasha to try a bunch of different tricks (kind of like the 1 time out of 100 that Shawn Michaels got to wrestle as the "big man" in a match)...

And also, the Cruiserweights... as champ Neville looks for an advantage over #1 Contender Austin Aries, he has managed to turn TJ Perkins to the dark side... the alliance may not last long, but Neville and Perkins vs. Aries and Jack Gallagher seems almost certain to happen (either tonight or tomorrow on "205")... Brian Kendrick vs. Akira Tozawa is moving along nicely, with Tozawa now scoring Cleverness Points after Kendrick out-schemed him for about 2 months straight (last week, Tozawa snuck in and took over as time keeper to cost Kendrick a match)... and the Rich Swann/Alicia Fox/Noam Dar triangle just keeps on keeping on, too....

That is all. End communication.

The flOOr is yours, OO Nation. Don't wait till after 11pm to post, either. Pre-show previewing and prognosticating is certainly welcome. So discuss, debate, and rate!

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posted on 4-17-2017 at 11:41 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
That thing I said about the Revival being pushed as #1 Contenders?

Forget I mentioned it.

Dash Wilder broke his jaw at a house show this weekend, and WWE just announced he's out of action for about 2 months. So.... either Gallows & Anderson, or Cesaro and Sheamus figure out a way to go full heel now that they are more and more on the same page, right?



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posted on 4-18-2017 at 01:04 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
It really does sometimes feel like WWE has the worst luck with sudden injuries derailing stuff. On the plus side, the most enjoyable show-starting recap video in a while!





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posted on 4-18-2017 at 01:08 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Can one of you Ohioites 'splain me why y'alls are so up each other's asses with that THE Ohio State University nonsense?

Also, yay! BLORRRG! for breaking ReBOO in half! The crowd also agrees!

Still so surreal to see Kurt there.





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posted on 4-18-2017 at 01:31 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
If Rollins is the Kingslayer, he had no excuse to not attack Booker. I DEMAND BETTER CONTINUITY!!!

Also, nice to see Golden Truth back! Clearly just an excuse to give us a bit of Finlay and Noble. I appreciate the effort.





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posted on 4-18-2017 at 01:53 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Geez, Enzo always gets ragdolled in a way that makes me extremely concerned for his health. Eating Shit The Dolph Ziggler Way But With 1/2 The Talent!





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posted on 4-18-2017 at 01:57 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
If they paired up Nia & Braun the same way as they have "Carmelsworth", what would they call them?

These are the ponderings I ponder when I have nothing else to ponder.

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I've been trying to come up with a sufficiently amusing name, and just can't do it.

Also, I guess Miz is Satan. Who knew?

Also II: Welcome to RAM, Kalisto!

Also III: Oh no! Big Show is going to derail BrAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHn's backstage fun. He still has so many other people to assault for no reason.





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If they paired up Nia & Braun the same way as they have "Carmelsworth", what would they call them?

These are the ponderings I ponder when I have nothing else to ponder.


Mah Ni-Strow? Gutz n' Slutz? Monster Dumpz?

And how in the fuck does a healthier Big Show somehow look unhealthier now?





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posted on 4-18-2017 at 02:17 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Damn Braun should have thrown Jack Gallagher in the dumpster instead. Got the wrong cruiserweight.
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I like Gallagher but the old chap needs a uniform change. Sheamus can rock that look, but he really cannot.

Also, I am looking forward to the day they apply Mysterio Rules to the cruisers and let them crossover to wrassle the larger fellows on the roster.





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posted on 4-18-2017 at 02:33 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
How do you think Renee feels about Deans love of black guys?





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How do you think Renee feels about Deans love of black guys?


This is the best question that's ever been raised ever in the history of OO. TBH, Dean's down with that foolishness, 'cause he's from Cleveland. Ohhhh geez, said too much agayn. It's Not My Fault 'Cause It's The Sauce Talkin' Baybee�!

Accept no substitutes!!!



Also, I wish the WWE would make more use of the Broken version of the Hardys.





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Is that gif like a Magic Eye version of goatse? If so, I'm glad I've never been able to make those magic-eye-pictures work.





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If you stare long enough, you can see the colon polyps!

Also, I adore Women's Midget Wrasslin'!

ETA: What's the over/under for Nia 'tard strength breaking one of the other girl's necks during this match?

ETA2: Fuck it, that was a great Lady Business Match! Kudos!

Mickie's like the HHH of female combatants compared to her Trish/Lita-Rock/Austin contemporaries in that while it might be awesomer to see them instead, Third Place ain't a bad place to be comparatively speaking.

[Edited on 4-18-2017 by janerd75]





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That was quite well-booked, especially the way Nia got to take Roman's Napsies at intervals. I say that with genuine goodwill, too. Until the girl gets cardioed-up like the better hoss-types (Kane, Samoa Joe, etc) we've seen, they need to figure out a way for her matches to contain microbreaks like those.





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If they paired up Nia & Braun the same way as they have "Carmelsworth", what would they call them?

These are the ponderings I ponder when I have nothing else to ponder.


Mah Ni-Strow? Gutz n' Slutz? Monster Dumpz?


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Coming soon: WWE's Nia Jax's 2017 Checkers Tournament. PROBLEM SOLVED.

Also, that's presumably one way to let Balor do stuff this week after getting walloped by Jinder Mahna Mahna last week.





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Can one of you Ohioites 'splain me why y'alls are so up each other's asses with that THE Ohio State University nonsense?


OSU decided it wanted to call itself that, and everyone goes along with it because Ohioans are required to support everything OSU does. They make you sign a contract to that effect when you get your driver's license.

It's not one-tenth as soul-destroyingly obnoxious as that awful "O-H!" "I-O!" chant.

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posted on 4-18-2017 at 03:21 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
The Drifter just made..



THE LIST!!!!!!~~~!!!!!!1111oneoneone


eta: It's skippity-bop storytime with Uncle Bray!

Etdigress upon universities: It's also strange that The U of Miami calls itself "THE U" because of the Miami-of-Ohio place. Florida and Ohio are linked at the colons?

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Finn's just a Cruiser whose reach exceeds his grasp and should be on 205 Live godit! There, I said it. You're welcome. Fuck outta here with that rough trade leather jacket faux tough guy preening.
I don't even care if you're just-janerdin-around here. I love every word of it.

[Edited on 4-18-2017 by Count Zero]





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Finn's just a Cruiser whose reach exceeds his grasp and should be on 205 Live godit! There, I said it. You're welcome. Fuck outta here with that rough trade leather jacket faux tough guy preening.

CROWBAR!!!! WHAT KIND OF MAN ARE YOUUUUU!

Mr. Bippity Boo Skibbity Bop up next! I wonder if he'll talk aboot spooky nonsense this time!!!

Word, GJJ. As a Gayturd with premium wins over T-OSU in bakketball and foosball, I appreciate the info yet give no shits aboot the transitionally Midwestern state of Ohio that likes to fuck up our electoral process for no good damn reason.

Also, is this Drifter guitar player dude the new "Hi, I'm Dolph Ziggler"?





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posted on 4-18-2017 at 03:28 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Only if he begins demanding everyone shake his guitar.

TONIGHT, ON BRAY WYATT'S SPOOKY DOOKY VARIETY HOUR ~~~ Something something something, I just saw the It teaser recently and figured I could sort of work with that.

Man, there's a GREAT way to freshen him up. He can start delivering his promos from inside storm drains, and then leave red balloons everywhere while stealing the occasional newspaper boat.





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Dump the M'Lady trilby, bring on the Whores, destroy shit and FUCKING GET TO RAPIN' BRAY!!!







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And instead of "Follow the buzzards", he starts saying "we all float down here."

LOVE IT~!





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Well, now, don't mistake my hatred of obnoxious-OSU-fan traditions for hatred of Ohio. That'd be like hating wrestling because I hate strap matches.
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