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posted on 5-15-2017 at 08:45 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
www.wwe.com/shows/raw/article/braun-strowman-undergoes-surgery?sf78971426=1

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During the procedure, it was revealed, among his other injuries, that Strowman's elbow had been shattered, and he is expected to miss up to six months of action as a result.


Well....shit.





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posted on 5-15-2017 at 08:47 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
mep, beat me to it

[Edited on 5/15/2017 by Paddlefoot]





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posted on 5-15-2017 at 09:01 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
"And #30 in the Royal Rumble is? By GAWD King, It's Braun Strowman!!! We haven't seen him for about six months!!"





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posted on 5-15-2017 at 10:33 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
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Wait, SD is kicking RAW's ass in live tours?

Anyway, lol at Orton randomly deciding to shit on indy marks.
Agree. And people getting their panties in a twist over it on twitter. Speaking of which




Much irony in Low Ki calling someone out on attitude issues.



[Edited on 5-15-2017 by royberto]

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posted on 5-16-2017 at 12:04 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
On SD not really beating RAW...

Wel,, that's dissapointing. I'd like to see the difference in quality lead up to a concrete win for SD in some way. Then again, ever since the Shake Up, SD has been a meh.

EDIT: The Pro-Indy guys are really coming off as sensitive brats. The WWE Style gets shit on all the time and it's no big deal. Also, come on guys. Orton wrestled a match to a silent arena WM two months ago and it ain't the first time. There's your ammo right there.



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posted on 5-16-2017 at 01:26 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I'm not exactly trying to play devil's advocate here, but...

Orton doesn't strike me as the world's most self-aware guy, so it's entirely possible that he's 100% clueless that he's been handed literally everything in his career on a silver platter. But he also has to know that the vast majority of guys he's worked with over the years were indy dudes at one point or another, right? What I'm saying is it's very possible that he's just trying to get a rise out of internet wrestling fans. Present company included, we aren't exactly the most difficult fandom to ruffle the feathers of. Just last week one of those dudes from that Kings of Leon band got annihilated by Wrestling Twitter for making a dumb comment about how adults shouldn't watch wrestling. We've all been guilty from time to time of swatting at flies with missiles. Orton is on social media and knows this. I don't know that he's so incredibly dense that he thinks indy wrestling is just a bunch of flips in front of 35 people (although he might! I don't know). I think Orton is just a guy who enjoys the occasional troll through social media.





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posted on 5-16-2017 at 02:56 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Agreed. Orton's had certain moments when he's known exactly when to ramp up the douchebaggery for public consumption. This is all probably being done on purpose because he saw he got a rise out of some of the indy guys and their fans with the initial comment and decided to have some more fun with them. No different really than when Lawler used to shit all over ECW with the "drunks, drug addicts, and bowling alleys" kind of remarks. That smarks and fans of the flippy shit, who've generally not hidden their disrespect for Orton over the years, are taking the bait is probably fairly amusing to him. Things like the comment about how much he gets paid are probably something a lot of the other WWE guys who aren't favourites of the purists either also most likely agree with too.

What makes it inadvertently more funny is that Orton's initial comment was so poorly written that it made it seem he was criticizing Rip Rogers as much as he was the flippy guys. C'mon Lisa, it's Ralph, err, Randy.





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posted on 5-16-2017 at 03:28 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
My feeling has always been that you should always "punch up, not down". Meaning if you are a guy like Orton who is at the very top of the wrestling industry, why should you shit on indy guys making $50 a weekend and eating Ramen noodles in their car? Especially a guy like Orton who probably wouldn't be where he is if his dad wasn't Bob Orton.

The only time you "punch down" is if you are "in character and playing a heel. If Orton's doing that, and trying to get heel heat, then fine!

But if Orton is just being himself and shitting on hard-working indy guys, then he can go fuck himself with Batista's dick.





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posted on 5-16-2017 at 03:57 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Low-Ki.....pot meet kettle! What a moron! Orton is trolling big time!

[Edited on 5-16-2017 by Frank Lloyd Wright]





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posted on 5-16-2017 at 05:23 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Low Ki's problem is that he thinks pro wrestling is real.
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posted on 5-16-2017 at 06:32 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I love Low Ki as a wrestler, and I love that he respects kayfabe, but sometimes he needs to just not talk about other people being pussies or whatever, as he is quite a known shithead when it comes to dealing with promoters because he doesn't like losing matches.

Heck, Super Dragon admitted in his Q&A; from 2012 that he loves Low Ki's work, but working with him behind the scenes is a completely different story (in 2011, a long-anticipated rematch between Hero and Ki was to take place at Eight, their anniversary show. The week of the show, he was taken off the card, and he was never advertised on another PWG show again).

Here's the quote and the interview:

"Very difficult. He's set in his ways and doesn't like to lose. Which makes it incredibly difficult to book him. One of my biggest wrestling accomplishments was having him lose to Claudio! It's unfortunate, because I think he is a very talented wrestler, and we could have done some great things together."

http://www.prowrestlingguerrilla.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t;=3934&start;=200

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posted on 5-16-2017 at 08:13 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Nowadays, it feels like everyone's trying to troll everyone. I'm getting scared to express opinions because it'll just result in the typical "TROLOLOL U GOT WERKED U DUM MARK".





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Part of the problem is that Orton's not entirely wrong. He starts off with some legit criticism of indy wrestling being too reliant on high spots and not enough on ring psychology and pacing. The problem is the he then starts bragging about how much money he makes and mocking indy guys for working in front of 150 people at an American Legion Hall.





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posted on 5-17-2017 at 07:17 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I have this weird mindset of trying to appreciate each product of wrestling for what it is. Dumb, right?







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I have this weird mindset of trying to appreciate each product of wrestling for what it is. Dumb, right?



Do you appreciate Impact Wrestling for what it is?





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posted on 5-17-2017 at 03:24 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Al Snow was arrested in Winchester KY last night on an outstanding warrant for.....unpaid traffic tickets.

He cooperated, paid a small fine and was released.

Al is boring.



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posted on 5-17-2017 at 03:54 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Foley should have a field day with that in his next book.

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I have this weird mindset of trying to appreciate each product of wrestling for what it is. Dumb, right?



Do you appreciate Impact Wrestling for what it is?


Amazingly, yes. Commentary is hot garbage nowadays but the in-ring content is still pretty good.





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Do you appreciate Impact Wrestling for what it is?


Amazingly, yes. Commentary is hot garbage nowadays but the in-ring content is still pretty good.
I can second this, on both fronts. Josh Matthews needs to go straight to hell, and they still have a pretty decent roster of athletes despite not-great booking/storyline decisions.

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Sorry if this got lost in the avalanche of Orton stuff, but the word is that WWE is largely working us on the scope and severity of Braun's injury and he's still penciled in to wrestle Brock at SummerSlam.





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Were I the WWE I'd strongly consider still keeping Braun around through his legit/embellished injury and still have him just do bad shit to others backstage, with the occasional in ring attack... really sell the idea that if this guy can still kick all kinds of ass one armed, then how destructive can/will he be once he's 100%.

Like no matches, but you could gimmick some stuff like the ambulance... have him push a wall over onto someone, and just generally do dickish stuff to people.

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Were I the WWE I'd strongly consider still keeping Braun around through his legit/embellished injury and still have him just do bad shit to others backstage, with the occasional in ring attack... really sell the idea that if this guy can still kick all kinds of ass one armed, then how destructive can/will he be once he's 100%.

Like no matches, but you could gimmick some stuff like the ambulance... have him push a wall over onto someone, and just generally do dickish stuff to people.

Like shitting in their luggage?





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posted on 5-19-2017 at 05:15 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Wouldn't RKO get upset about somebody stealing his move?
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This is absolutely fantastic. If Gulak weaves this into his angle it could be gold.

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