phansett
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I feel like Shayna Baszler and Baron Corbin share A LOT of DNA.
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The Rowdy One
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Was this the first time a WWE crowd chants a commentator's catchphrase? There were some pretty loud ''Mama Mia'' chants
in the Black/Cole match. I know ECW did it ffor Joey.
Makes me wish NXT had Prime JR with the crowd barking his Southernisms.''Good Gawd Almighty!''
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Nobledictator1278
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Well that last match was fun.....
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DKBroiler
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That match was crazy as hell.
Gargano is MONEY.
Drew Gulak guy.
Former and current Braun Strowman guy.
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Nobledictator1278
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If they were going to have Ciampa attack they should have had him screw Johnny G out of the title match. The story was already there.....he climbs
mountain and then gets fucked over by his best friend. With that said though the last match was easily great.
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JRWReich
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I was impressed both by Mr.Wrestling III and Rey Mysterio the 3rd, but the girl's stole the match.
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bigfatgoalie
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Gargano vs Almas was fantastic. Both guys brought it. Predictable outcome (Gargano is a face/underdog) as Almas vs Black will likely headline the
Mania Takeover. Plus Gargano vs Ciampa doesn't need the title.
Not really sure what they do with Adam Cole (Velveteen Dream?), EC 3, or Ricochet. But NXT continues to over deliver.
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DevilSoprano
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quote:
Originally posted by Nobledictator1278
If they were going to have Ciampa attack they should have had him screw Johnny G out of the title match. The story was already there.....he climbs
mountain and then gets fucked over by his best friend. With that said though the last match was easily great.
The Ciampa attack costing Gargano the title would make sense, but it also would hurt Almas a bit. Now, Almas looks even more like a legit champ,
Gargano continues to look like the best selling babyface and best hope spot in wrestling, and Ciampa's back as the post-credits attack to rub
salt in the wounds.
Mania Takeover with Almas/Black, Gargano/Ciampa, Undisputed/Sanity, Ember/Shayna/Sane/Peyton, and then a Dream/Cole or Dream/Lars match if they wanna
put Cole into the tag titles and make it a 6-man with the belts on the line.
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the goon
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I was playing catch-up with tonight's NXT Takeover because I started watching about an hour late and for some reason, right before the main
event, it booted me back to the pre-show and I couldn't get the actual PPV pulled back up. So I saw the entire show except for the fucking main
event. 
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JRWReich
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quote:
Originally posted by DKBroiler
I really want Gargano to lose a 25 minute classic so I can watch him for 58 minutes in the Rumble tomorrow.
I think you nailed it.
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Columbo
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quote:
Originally posted by the goon
I was playing catch-up with tonight's NXT Takeover because I started watching about an hour late and for some reason, right before the main
event, it booted me back to the pre-show and I couldn't get the actual PPV pulled back up. So I saw the entire show except for the fucking main
event.
You didn't miss much just one of the top 2 or 3 Takeover matches ever. 
"The North Cafeteria, named after Admiral William North, is located in the western portion of East Hall, gateway to the western half of North Hall,
which is named, not after William North, but for its position above the South Wall. It is the most contested and confusing battlefield on Greendale�s
campus, next to the English Memorial Spanish Center, named after English Memorial, a Portuguese sailor that discovered Greendale while looking for a
fountain that cured syphilis."
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OORick
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FWIW, goon, I had some strange connectivity/archival issues tonight, too.
I intentionally meant to get started watching an hour late (a little after 8pm eastern, but I meant to watch the preshow), and neither the Takeover
nor the pre-show was listed for viewing under "In Ring." But I went to "Schedule" and was able to "Watch from Beginning" both, and I FF'd
some bits, and I got kicked out of the main "Takeover" somewhere around halfway through.
Again, I couldn't find it by going to "In Ring." But I went to "Schedule" and was able to "Watch from Beginning" and then FF to where I
wanted to be. As of now (1am-ish, eastern), all appears normal for WWE Network's archives, but that's the first time it hiccupped at me
trying to shave an hour or so off a PPV/Takeover. Weird.
Good show. A lot of NXT's value is its "pass through" value; that is to say, it's a skill check before you get tot he main roster.
Somebody like me, I view it almost exclusively that way; I am incapable of viewing cable-access-caliber indie shows or non-English youtubes without
applying the filter of "Hmmmm, I wonder how this act would play in WWE?" And the fact that I view almost all non-WWE wrestling as "scouting"
rather than as "entertainment" changes my filter a lot.
NXT has evaded that filter over the past 4 years, but rarely as well as they did in the two main title matches. Cien vs. Johnny was incredibly
well-crafted, and if you didn't feel that story (even before Candice went all Latter Day Bad Ass Miss Elizabeth), I don't know how to help
you. Using Ciampa as the tag ending just added to the tale. Moon vs. Bayszler wasn't the same type of craftsmanship, but it executed the same
type of "serving more than one purpose" magic. Moon was already "made," but maybe some folks didn't care; now they do. And also, now Shayna
is made, too.
Cole/Black was good, too. I'm the contrary one here, and I don't quite "get" Black as anything more than a good hand who's really
hard to insta-like unless you're so into the Baron Corbin-y thing that you can't hate that look, and am more of a lean towards Adam Cole
BayBay. But they sure as hell busted ass in the name of entertainment. I'm flexible on these things (witness: me not much liking CM Punk until
"The Summer of Punk" before he jumped to WWE), but I do take convincing.
As previously noted, AoP HAVE to be done now, right? Only question is, does Ellering follow them up to the main roster? Or has he done his job?
Velveteen Dream needs to make people re-hate him. He's so fun right now, as the wacky mostly-bad-guy who is more entertaining than his
straight-man-good-guy opponent. But that makes him half-dimensional, at best. If he gets called up to the main roster before he completes that level,
it will not last. I very much think he can do it. BOOK IT.
Rick
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GodEatGod
Man of a Thousand Holds 
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Ellering probably doesn't come up with AoP - he's up there in years and mainly can do NXT because it's near his home and he
doesn't have to travel. Probably why they've had AoP cut more of their own promos lately.
The main event was fucking magnificent - the only knock I'd have against it is simply my really wishing Johnny had won, but that's just
the mark in me. Early MotY candidate. I couldn't love Candice LeRae more and popped like crazy for her jumping Vega. Long term, I think
there's money in Shayna vs. Candice, as Mrs. Wrestling is just as much an awesome babyface as her husband.
Aleister/Cole was a different kind of awesome. I can see some issues as it was disjointed here and there, in part because of them having to try to
handle the unexpected blood. That chair spot on Cole was BRUTAL, though, and I loved the double knees through the table. Both guys can be huge stars,
although Cole is really small for the kind of guy WWE would push.
Shayna/Ember told a great story, even if the match itself was only kind of there. Ember's clearly living on borrowed time, but giving her the
win here made her look tough and keeps her reign from seeming like a fluke.
Dream's hugely over, but is in that weird place where you have to figure out how to turn him babyface without taking away what makes him great.
He's still pretty green, too, as you could see him struggling now and then out there tonight. Nothing wrong with building him and letting him
develop organically given his youth.
I've honestly yet to be disappointed in a Takeover. They're always good.
"It is an impressively arrogant move to conclude that just because you don't like something, it is empirically not good. I don't like
Chinese food, but I don't write articles trying to prove it doesn't exist." - Tina Fey
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CVD39
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Man, I'm really enjoying these Takeovers.
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SpiNNeR72
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Yep, another great Takeover.
One of the nice things is the relative unpredictability. I mean, we were all sure Ciampa was going to show up, so the clean finish was a great
surprise.
I also believe they (Takeover shows) must be doing a service in giving the main roster something to follow.
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DKBroiler
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quote:
Originally posted by SpiNNeR72
Yep, another great Takeover.
One of the nice things is the relative unpredictability. I mean, we were all sure Ciampa was going to show up, so the clean finish was a great
surprise.
I also believe they (Takeover shows) must be doing a service in giving the main roster something to follow.
Just throwing it out there ... what if Ciampa is still too hurt to have the blowoff at Take Over: New Orleans? Wouldn�t calling up Gargano tonight
and blowing off their feud around SummerSlam on the main roster work just as well?
Drew Gulak guy.
Former and current Braun Strowman guy.
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SpiNNeR72
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That would be a great crossover, and I can't think of anyone hotter than Gargano to call from NXT right now.
On the subject of callups - a rumble entry doesn't always mean they've moved to the main roster full time, so I wouldn't be
surprised to see Black make an appearance (main roster move would be ok just now too)
The women's division is interesting now. Do they draw out Moon/Baizler till New Orleans?
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LoveMuscle
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quote:
Originally posted by OORick
"Hmmmm, I wonder how this act would play in WWE?"
I'm going to take Rick's quote out of context here to express my thoughts on The Velveteen Dream. To me, he clearly has "it" and with a
little more seasoning should at worst be a quality upper-card performer for many years, and potentially with the right angle/gimmick that resonates
with the fans could reach levels not seen since the heyday of Rock & Austin. High praise, I know; but I severely doubt that the "Velveteen Dream"
character will be as successful connecting with the main WWE audience. I worry for him that they'll bring him up to the main show as-is without
any sort of back story or weeks of hype videos, and he'll flop miserably (think Emma's initial call-up).
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Matte
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quote:
Originally posted by DKBroiler
Wouldn�t calling up Gargano tonight and blowing off their feud around SummerSlam on the main roster work just as well?
Nothing from NXT works just as well on the main roster.
"I'm a professional. I know exactly what I'm doing." - Jeff Hardy
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SpiNNeR72
Showstopper
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quote:
Originally posted by LoveMuscle
quote:
Originally posted by OORick
"Hmmmm, I wonder how this act would play in WWE?"
I'm going to take Rick's quote out of context here to express my thoughts on The Velveteen Dream. To me, he clearly has "it" and with a
little more seasoning should at worst be a quality upper-card performer for many years, and potentially with the right angle/gimmick that resonates
with the fans could reach levels not seen since the heyday of Rock & Austin. High praise, I know; but I severely doubt that the "Velveteen Dream"
character will be as successful connecting with the main WWE audience. I worry for him that they'll bring him up to the main show as-is without
any sort of back story or weeks of hype videos, and he'll flop miserably (think Emma's initial call-up).
I think he has the advantage of a lot of history from tough enough and inevitable performance centre video archive, so a lot of people already know he
is Patrick Clark, and so it may be easier for him to move on from Velveteen Dream to "The Dream". Like Hunter Hearst Helmsley did.
The lengthy history and his determination to make it also means he's a safer bet to push, which I am sure must be becoming more and more of a
factor.
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