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posted on 7-9-2006 at 07:18 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
So yeah, popping into the sports forum for the second time ever just to comment about the PPV tonight.

I hated the Sylvia/Arlovski fight. For two guys who have had great battles before, even if they do have mutual respect now, nobody paid to see them box for 25 minutes. That was bullshit!

I'm torn on Ortiz/Shamrock. Unlike a lot of people I've met, I love Tito Ortiz. Sure, he's an asshole, but at least he doesn't pretend he's not, like Shamrock does. One part of me thinks that Herb should not have stopped the fight so soon, but the other part looked at the replay and saw how Tito was bashing him with elbows and Ken clearly wasn't protecting himself. So I'm stuck between wanting to see these two guys give a great fight and not wanting one of them to get seriously injured. However, I do think Shamrock should retire.

The doctors made a good decision on the Stevenson fight. Yves was bleeding like a stuck pig.

Question, why the hell did they put the Burkman fight after Ortiz/Shamrock? Was it just for a palette cleanser or was there another reason?





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Yeah, Court, it is a palette clenser. The UFC calls it the "swing fight". They have one for every PPV.





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The "swing fight" is one that might not be on the PPV, time permitting. Since the Tito-Shamrock fight ended so fast, they put it on. It may have been taped earlier, I'm not sure. The order may get changed on the DVD, not sure if UFC does that.

From the UFC website:

"Q: What Does "May not be broadcast" mean? What is a "Swing Fight"?

A. Fights labeled as "may not be broadcast" are scheduled to take place before the live broadcast begins. These pre-recorded fights are inserted into the broadcast if time permits. However, due to broadcast time constraints some of these undercard bouts may not be seen on a broadcast. These additional bouts can be found as bonus footage on the event DVD and online at http://video.ufc.com.

A "Swing Fight" is a bout scheduled during the live event, but under very rare circumstances, may not be shown. Swing Fights may also take place out of order from listed programming."


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Originally posted by courtney

I'm torn on Ortiz/Shamrock. Unlike a lot of people I've met, I love Tito Ortiz. Sure, he's an asshole, but at least he doesn't pretend he's not, like Shamrock does.


Apparently my mother and father were in Atlantic City on Thursday night and they somehow ended up sharing an elevator with Kenny Shamrock. According to the folks Mr. Shamrock was quite the gentleman and spent 10 minutes chatting them up about his fight, so maybe he�s not actually the biggest dick face in the world.

Anyway just wanted throw that out there because it seems like there is a lot of negativity about Shamrock in this thread.


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It's just any time I see him in an interview or on TV, he's just comes across as a guy who thinks too much of himself. At least to me anyways.





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"Here's a quick list of the Light Heavyweight division:
Michael Bisping
Stephan Bonnar
Rashad Evans
Forrest Griffin
Matt Hamill
Sam Hoger
Keith Jardine
Chuck Liddell
Dean Lister
Tito Ortiz
Ken Shamrock

That's a ridiculous list of quality fighters at that weight class. No wonder Rich Franklin is staying in the Middleweight class. And honestly, I don't see Kendall Grove staying there, either. It just doesn't look like a comfortable weight for him, being 6'6" and all. But hey, if he can stay there he's got a much better chance than he does at Light Heavyweight. "

You forgot to list Babalu (whos got the next shot at Chuck) and Brandon "The Truth" Vera. Personaly I wonder how long Rich Franklin will be able to make 185? At the wheigh ins he allways looks gaunt.

I think the best thing for kendal to do would to try add about 10-15lbs of muscle and then stay at LHW by dropping water wheight. He jsut looks too skinny to be fighting at Heavywheight.

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Franklin's not leaving 185. If you look at the first time he went to 185 at UFC 50, he looked bad. If you look at him at UFC 53, 56 or 58, he looks good. They got the weight cutting down pat.





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Ken vs Tito 3

From Sherdog.com


"As Sherdog.com reported on Friday, the Ultimate Fighting Championship has been negotiating with Tito Ortiz (Pictures) and Ken Shamrock (Pictures) to promote a third installment of their blood-feud.

Apparently the talks went well.

UFC president Dana White is quoted in Sunday�s Las Vegas Review-Journal that the trilogy-making bout will take place.

�[Ortiz-Shamrock II] had a lot of buildup and a lot of hype and it ended in a minute,� White told Kevin Iole. �Nobody got to see the fight they paid to come to see, so we�re going to give it to them.�

Sherdog.com has learned through sources close to both fighters that the show was scheduled for October 10 at the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Hollywood, Fla., and would have aired live on SpikeTV.

However, there has been a holdup on securing the venue and the particulars of the event remain up in the air at this time.

According to one source, the card has been finalized but no contracts have been sent out to any of the fighters due to the venue issues.

It would seem likely that the show could be held at the Red Rock Resort in Las Vegas � where Diego Sanchez (Pictures) fights Karo Parisyan (Pictures) on August 17�s UFC Fight Night � if things are not resolved in Florida. The resort is the newest piece of UFC owners Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta�s hotel and casino empire. "

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posted on 8-8-2006 at 06:47 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
On Aug 17th we get the lates installment of Ultimate Fight Night followed by TUF4:The Comeback.

The card for UFN has Diego Sanchez Vs. Karo Parisyan and Chris Leben Vs. Jorge Santiago on top. (Leben is sure coming back quickly from that KO) also fighting are Dean Lister (Tito's grappling coach on TUF),Jason Von Flue Vs. Joe Riggs, and Josh Koscheck Vs. Jonathan Goulet . Another solid card allright.

TUF 4 has fighters who have all ready been in the UFC returning with the winner of the whole thing getting a title shot. Some of the more notable fighters are Matt Serra (who trains Luke Cummo), Shonnie Carter (whos in his 40's), and Gideon Ray. Randy Couture and George St. Pierre (whos fighting Matt Hughs at UFC 63 so this will be used to promote that card) are the coaches this season.

UFC 62 has a great pair main events in Babalu vs Chuck Liddell for the world lightheavy wheight strap. Liddell knocked out Babalu a few years ago and since then Babalu has been on a ten win tear with 3 of those wins being inside the UFC.

Also on this card is the rematch of Bonnar and Griffen. With both men coming off loses (Griffen to Tito and Bonnar to Rashad) this could be a bit if a cross roads fight with the winner going towards an eventual title shot and the loser going back to the drawing board.

UFC 62 has allmost nothing of note on the undercard altho there is rumor of a Frank Mir vs Brandon Vera fight.

Another rumor circulating the net is that the next fight for heavywheight Tim Sylvia will be against Jeff Monsoon. UFC 64 will possibly feature Rich Franklin (who will be coming off a broken hand) defending against Anderson Silva (the fellow who knocked out Leben) also rumored is the fight for the vacant light wheight title between Sean Sherk and Kenny Florian (Florian wanted more time to train so the bout got pushed back)

The IFL returns to FSN in september. I'm not sure exactly when it will air.

The Outdoor Living Network has signed a deal with top rank promotions to show live fights on thursday nights. This week features Oylimpian Brian �Hawaiian Punch� Viloria vs Omar Nino for the WBC Light Flywheight title plus the undercard.
Viloria has been featured on ESPN's friday night fights and is allways fun to watch.

OLN (which is changing its name to Versus in september) is showing live fights on alternate thursdays and "Legends of the Ring" which will feature past superstar of the sport. Tonight at 11 there is an Ali vs. Bonavena match.

Finally the Oxygen network is showing a two hour documentary "Fight Girls" about several young ladies training to go to Tailand to fight for Muy Tai championships. Its very good and well produced. Its shot in a similar "reality show" style that is used by The Contender and TUF. I watched it last night and highly recomend it to anyone whos a fight fan.

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Holy crap was UFC Fight Night exciting! Probably the best installment to this point.

Diego Sanchez has earned my respect. His fights with Nick Diaz and now Karo Parisyan have been two of the best fights of the past year. I had my first markout MMA moment today with Karo's judo throws. Usually, I'm reserved and concentrating watching fights, but those throws nearly had me out of my seat. Despite the L, Karo freaking rocks.

Diego was very, very explosive the whole fight. I cannot believe the twats over at Sherdog are actually complaining about this decision. I can understand being annoyed over the judge scoring it 30-26 for Diego, that's brutal, but the other two scored it exactly as I did, 29-28 Diego. Diego took round one, Karo took the second and Diego dominated the third. I love these exciting technical bouts.

Josh Koscheck made quick work of Jonathan Goulet, which, if you were basing it off the odds, would not seem like that big of a surprise, but Goulet is a solid fighter. It seems that Koscheck has improved a lot since the last time we saw him on TV in October when he was pretty much KO'd by a last minute knee by Drew Fickett and choked out. I will now look forward to seeing his name on the main card.

The Lister/Sasaki fight was pretty cool and technical. My favorite part, though, by far, was Joe Rogan saying that Lister had "blown his wad" after two rounds from all the submission attempts.

I had the same feeling during the Leben/Santiago fight that I had during Liddell/Couture III. I was nervous for Leben, especially when he took that hard shot that staggered him early in the fight and kept keeping his hands down. But he came back and scored one of the biggest KTFO's of the year.

And color me surprised by the Diesel! Who knew he could choke somebody out?

All in all, an awesome card. It was made even better when they announced that they will be broadcasting the UFC 62 weigh-ins live next Friday at 10 pm on Spike, in which they will officially announce (presumebly) Tito-Ken III for the Oct. 10 SpikeTV card.

Sweet.

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I thought it was a very good UFN.

I had the frist two rounds of Sanchez vs Parisyan to close to call. However Diego took the fight with the final round. Possible fight of the year right there.

Lister vs. Sasaki was dramatic. Lister has bad standup and Yuki has a bad ground game. I was watching to see if list was going to be able to avoid getting knocked out. I thought Lister took the frist two rounds and Yuki took the third. However I was thinking that the judges might have given the second to the Karate Kid bcause they often seem to value striking more than grappling.

These last two fights have exposed Chris Leben. Sure hes got sledgehammers for arms but he has not technique. If he was to fight some one like Franklin he'd either get knocked out or picked arpart over the course of the fight for a desision loss.

Josh Korcheck was impressive but I haven't seen too many of his fights to see how good he really is. Zuffa does seem to be giveing him the "Leben" push as well so I guess Ill have to wait and see.

TUF4 should be good. I don't think that theres going to be that complete and udder lack of heart as disiplayed on the last season.

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The UFC top ten raking according to JHEATON. The opinions expressed in here in are mine and mine alone.

Heavyweight

Champ Tim Sylvia
1. Jeff Monson
2. Andre Arlovski
3. Brandon Vera
4. Mario Cruz
5. Frank Mir
6. Gabriel Gonzaga
7. Paul Buentello
8. Dan Christison
9. Brad Imes
10. Brandon lee Hinkle

Comments: After Sylvia regaining the title Arlovski drops to number 2 behind Monsoon. Brandon Vera is number three he would be higher if he decided to stick with a weight class. Marico �Pe De Pano� Cruz is in 4th due to his win over form champ Mir. The rest are just sort of filling out a weak weight class, Paul Buentello trying to comeback after being knocked out by The Pitbull, Christison , and Imes are trying to make a name for themselves after coming off TUF.

Light heavy Weight

Champ Chuck Liddell
1. Rento Sorbral
2. Tito Ortiz
3. Forrest Griffen
4. Rashad Evans
5. Stephan Bonner
6. Brandon Vera
7. Keith Jardine
8. Jason Lambert
9. James Irvin
10. Michael Bisbing

Comments: Bablua is fighting this month for the title. Tito Ortiz is number 2 after his close win Forrest Griffen. Forrest is at 3 where I feel that his lose legitimized him. Rashad takes the fourth spot with a win over Bonnar. Brandon Vera could be higher but he fights in two divisions. Keith Jardine has a close loss to Bonnar but a good win following that. Jason Lamebert is a potential sleeper at 8 with two wins in the octagon one over Rob MacDonald. James the Sandman Irvin has a knock out win against Terry Martin and loss against Bonnar. Michael Bisbing rounds out the list with his win of the TUF contract all thou in doing so he beat two fighter who weren�t that good (Ross and Christian) and one that should be fighting at 185 or 170 (Josh). All in all this is probably the strongest division in the UFC with major shake ups coming with the rematches on Bonnar Griffen and Babalu Iceman.

Middleweight

Champ Rich Franklin
1. Jeremy Horn
2. Anderson Silva
3. Chris Leben
4. Mike Swick
5. Nate Marquardt
6. Evan Tanner
7. Dean Lister
8. David Loiseau
9. David Terrell
10. Kendal Grove

Comments: Another solid division in the UFC. Rich is champ. I put Horn at number one even thou he won�t fight Franklin. He might be done with the UFC as he�s fighting Matt Lindland at the IFL. Anderson Silva made a huge debut by knocking out top ranked contender Chris Leben. Silva is rumored to get the next title shot at Rich Franklin. Chris Leben ends up at 3 with his long winning streak coming to an end at the hands of Silva. Swick is a young up and comer whose 3 and 0 in the UFC. Nate Marquardt is the same story as Swick being two and 0 in the octagon. Evan Tanner looked strong in his victory over Levens. Dean Lister is two and o in the UFC and is a possible contender. David Loiseau has been inactive since his defeat at the (broken) hands of Franklin. Kendal Grove is 20 with his win over Angry Ed at the TUF final.

Welterweight

Champ Matt Hughes
1. George St. Pierre
2. Diego Sanchez
3. Karo Parisian
4. Josh Burkman
5. Josh Neer
6. Josh Koscheck
7. Joe Stevenson
8. Joe Riggs
9. Thiago Alves
10. Nick Diaz



Comments: Matt Hughes is scheduled to face #1 contender GSP in the long awaited rematch at UFC 63. Diego Sanchez will apparently get the next shot after that by defeating Karo Parisian who will have to wait that much longer for his shot. Josh Burkman stopped the win streak of Josh Neer so he�s at number 4. Josh Koscheck is at six with his win at UFN. Joe Riggs is trying to climb the rankings with his win over Jason Von Flue and win over Nick Diaz. Thiago Alves was on a role until he lost at UFN and Nick Diaz is on a three fight losing streak no matter and may be out of the UFC. If BJ Penn fights in this division again then he could make the rankings. Until then he hasn�t won so he out.

Lightweight
Champ Vacant
1. Kenny Florian
1. Sean Sherk
3 Sam Stout
4 Spenser Fisher
5 Jens Pulver
6 Mark Hommick
7 Yevs Edwards
8 Vacant
9 Vacant
10 Vacant


There still re building this division so it�s hard to rank it. Florian and Sherk will be fighting for the Vacant UFC light heavy weight title At UFC 64. Sam Stout has lost to Florian but beat Fisher. Jens Pulver has yet to fight in his return but he never lost the title to begin with, However I can�t justify ranking him above the fighter who are actually fighting. Mark Hommick beat Yevs Edwards at UFC 58 in a 155lbs contest. Its going to be interesting to see which welterweights drop down (Melvin Guilard and Diego have been rumored but I don�t think Diego will with him getting a WW title shot in the future)and what talent get brought in. TUF 5 may have lightweights (I think they should do LW and HW as both those divisions need to be built up) with Jens Pulver as a coach. The whole season will build towards Jens getting a title shot. Also BJ Penn has said he�s going to drop down but with him who knows.

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GimmickMan's Realistic (And Correctly Spelled) Top-5 (or more) UFC Rankings:

Heavyweight - Tim Sylvia, Champion
1) Jeff Monson
2) Brandon Vera
3) Frank Mir
4) Andrei Arlovski
5) Cheick Kongo

Light-Heavyweight - Chuck Liddell, Champion
1) Babalu
2) Tito Ortiz
T-5) Forrest Griffin
T-5) Jason Lambert
T-5) Rashad Evans

Middleweight - Rich Franklin, Champion
1) Nathan Marquardt
2) Anderson Silva
3) Mike Swick
4) Evan Tanner
5) David Terrell
6) Dean Lister
7) David Loiseau
8) Chris Leben
9) TUF4 Winner

Welterweight - Matt Hughes, Champion
1) Georges St. Pierre
2) BJ Penn
3) Diego Sanchez
4) Karo Parisyan
5) Jon Fitch
6) Joe Riggs
7) Josh Burkman
8) Josh Neer
9) TUF4 Winner

Lightweight - Vacant
1) Sean Sherk
2) Spencer Fisher
3) Mark Hominick
4) Kenny Florian
5) Jens Pulver
6) Melvin Guillard
7) Joe Stevenson
8) Hermes Franca
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Well, with bad news comes some decent good news.

The bad news: Georges St. Pierre had to pull out of his Sept. 23 Welterweight Title fight against Matt Hughes with a severe groin pull.

The decent good news: Taking his place:



That is the man who never actually lost the Welterweight Title after beating Hughes in Jan. 2004, BJ Penn.

SHOULD BE A GOOD ONE!!!





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Tomorrow (Sunday Aug.17) Fox Sports Net is airing Pride Bushido. (check your locl scedual for air times). Featured on the card are Dennis Kang, Takanori Gomi, Dan Henderson, Akihiro Gono, Gilbert Melendez.

All the fights are welter weight or below so there should be lots of action and excitement. FUN WILL BE HAD BY ALL~!

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Quick UFC 62 thoughts.

Babalu Vs Chuck. Babalu got knocked the F out. I couldn't believe that he went down that fast. I ahd thought that this would be a late round stoppage or desicion for Chuck. I like Babalu and I kinda feel bad for him that he lost in this fashion. I wonder if Dana will keep him around after a loss like that.

Griffen vs Bonnar. Griffen proved to be the supior fighter. Not the war that the frist fight was but not a bad fight either. Bonnar may have more tools in his tool box but Griffen is simply better. Griffen moves up in another step towards the elite LHW. Bonnar will probably be keep around, hes still a draw and his personality and heart will keep him fans.

Nick Diaz finally lived up the "future of the welterweight division" that Mike Goldberg says ever time he fights. neither Diaz or Josn Neer are ever in a bad fight and this was no exeption.

The undercard was quite good. Kongo looks like a solid addittion to the HW scene.Hermes Franca Vs. Jamie Varner was good and I'd like to see more from both men. Wilson Gouveia looked impressive coming off his loss to Jardine.

On a personal note this was actually the frist UFC PPV I've ever seen live. Every other on that I've seen was either on Video or A PPV rerun. Me and a couple of fellows went to hooters and drank a ton of beer (the table behind us had a group of girls who seemed intent on engaging their homoerotic fanticys everythim the fighter fought on the ground, They practically lost it when one of the fighters took rear mount). I went home at 1 got up at 7 and ran a 5K in 21:30.

Anyone else see the PPV?


Also Hughes vs GSP is now Hughes vs Penn. And the PPV after that is now Franklin vs Silva and Sherk vs Florian for the lightweight title.

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I didn't get to see the PPV, but my GOD did Edwin Dewees lose more blood than anybody else I have ever seen in any sport. I wish the boards weren't sucking all week so I could HIGHLY recommend to anybody out there to catch a replay from last Thursday's episode.

Seriously, think Flair times 10. It just started SPURTING out onto the mat.

Edit: Here are a coupla pics from the fight, and even these don't do justice to the amount of bloodshed.





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MIRKO CROCOP!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2006 PRIDE Open-Weight Grand Prix Champion.



GOOD NIGHT NOW!

As he says:

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Left kick: Cemetery

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Hell yes. Cro Cop is ridiculously bad ass. Poor Silva just got put OUT by the kick. You know it's coming, but shit, it doesn't make one bit of difference. That kick was gorgeous. And Barnett is a bitch, so it was awesome to see him get some. In the post-fight interview he was already making excuses. Oh, I might have over trained, oh, he accidentally hit me in the eye, all kinds of shit except "I'm a loser and Cro Crop hit me so hard I went blind." (Also, "Oh, I had his knee and heard him yelling, I thought I submitted him" shut the fuck up, dude.) Hopefully Cro Cop vs. Fedor for the New Years show does happen, because my two favorite fighters going at it would make me pretty happy.

Other thoughts: Is it just me, or do Pride refs wait considerably longer than UFC refs to stop a fight? Aleksander was murdering the other russian THEN hit some knees before the ref was in there. I guess Pride doesn't have to worry about proving itself as a safe, legit sport like UFC does.

Diabate's pre-fight interview was hilarious. Talking about how his biggest asset was his brain, and how Shogun probably has better kicks and knees and shit. He got brought in to get killed and he knew it. And sure enough, a stomp to the face spells doom for him. My buddy was over, and he had never seen Pride before. I told him before it started, "Less elbows, more stomps." Even after it happened, he couldn't believe that man would just stomp on that other man's face like that.

Overeem talks a good game, but that doesn't do him much good as Arona does exactly what he was accused of doing - controls the fight on the ground. Then Overeem's leg explodes, so he gives up.

As much as I like ragging on Barnett (and I really do because he is a crybaby and a loser) his fight with Nog was tons of fun, a great fight, and I was impressed with his performance in the final.

I throughly enjoyed this presentation of the fighting and look forward to the next show I will watch. (Which is first, The Real Deal, or the next UFC? Speaking of The Real Deal, Mark Coleman: The only fighter with THE COURAGE to face Fedor.





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Upcoming schedule:

Sept. 23 - UFC 63: Hughes vs. Penn
Oct. 10 - UFC Fight Night: The Final Chapter, Ortiz vs. Shamrock
Oct. 14 - UFC 64: Franklin vs. Silva/Sherk vs. Florian
Oct. 21 - PRIDE 32: The Real Deal - Fedor vs. Coleman/Shogun vs. Randleman
Nov. 5 - PRIDE Bushido 13: Welterweight GP Finals
Nov. 11 - The Ultimate Fighter 4 Finale
Nov. 19 - UFC 65: Sylvia vs. Monson
Dec. 30 - UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz
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posted on 9-11-2006 at 09:12 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Thanks for that schedule, Gimmick. Fedor/Coleman is all of a sudden non-title, which lends itself to Fedor/Cro Cop for the title at Shockwave.





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posted on 9-14-2006 at 10:46 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Get pumped for UFC 63 with my faux UFC 63 video intro video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZJhXDgzd5A

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posted on 9-14-2006 at 11:55 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Originally, I was just going to tell you to fuck off folby, but I am actually kind of interested in your point of view. Barnett is my favorite fighterbecause he shows actual personality outside of the ring and seems to be areally cool guy. I think that he is very determined and good at what he does. I will admit that I don't know nearly as much about MMA as I do wrestling, but I have never seen any article where Barnett comes off as a baby. You seem t makiung him out to be the Matt Hardy of MMA, which would not be good. What really threw me for a loop was that I thought you would be proud of Barnett. I mena he is showing the pro-wrestling/shoot wrestling/catch wrestling (whatever you want to call it) is a viable style and you are all about bringing tremendous realism to wrestling. And Barnett is raising the stock of pro-wrestling realism.

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posted on 9-15-2006 at 12:00 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I got the same exact impression that folby got from Barnett, Chip, but I still like him.





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posted on 9-23-2006 at 03:37 AM Edit Post Reply With Quote
UFC 63 Weigh-In Results:

Matt Hughes (170) vs BJ Penn (166.5)
Mike Swick (184) vs David Loiseau (185.5)
Gabe Ruediger (155) vs Melvin Guillard (156)
Jason Lambert (205.5) vs Rashad Evans (204)
Joe Lauzon (155.5) vs Jens Pulver (154)
Jason Dent (155.5) vs Roger Huerta (155)
Mario Neto (235.5) vs Eddie Sanchez (223)
Danny Abbadi (155.5) vs Jorge Gurgel (154)
David Lee (153.5) vs Tyson Griffin (155)





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