Cherokee Jack
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In the Raw match everyone was in before the first elimination.
In the Smackdown one R-Truth and Punk start, and Truth's gone before the first pod opens.
I know he's the least pushed, and I understand it would be insane to think he had a chance of winning, but (especially when it seems like
they've been trying to push him a bit as of late) why bother putting him in the match if that's all you're going to do? It does
nothing for Punk, who's already way above Truth's level, and only makes Truth stand out even more as the guy who doesn't belong.
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the goon
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I don't really get doing a Miz/MVP impromptu match for the second PPV in a row, with the exact same result. But I'm thinking this
Miz/Daniel Bryan stuff could be good and will be the main reason I check out NXT.
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LuckyLopez
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Its called "We only booked 4 matches and we had to kill an hour between Elimination Chambers."
This PPV has basically been an exercise in wasting time.
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The SD side of things sounded awesome in it's delivery and HBK-tainted result. Too bad the rest of it, especially a Divas match that could only
be described as execrable, sounded like it totally sucked
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the goon
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quote:
Originally posted by LuckyLopez
Its called "We only booked 4 matches and we had to kill an hour between Elimination Chambers."
Oh, I get that, I just don't get doing the exact same impromptu match from the Rumble (with Miz going over again). They could have at least done
a tag match, as some suggested earlier in the thread.
And I'm really glad the WWE didn't pull any more wacky swerves and played it safe with Michaels costing Taker the title and Jericho
becoming the new world champion. I'll definitely be looking forward to the next month of Jericho/Edge, Taker/Michaels, and even Cena/Batista
storylines.
EDIT: Interesting tidbit on WWE.com, that they have both Jericho and Batista listed as world/WWE champions on Smackdown, with no champion on RAW (and
I assume it will stay that way until Cena takes the WWE title back at WrestleMania). With the Divas title still vacated, Miz holds all titles on
RAW!
[Edited on 2-22-2010 by the goon]
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cardscott5
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I was disappointed by the Smackdown elimination chamber. People mentioned that Truth didn't make it past the opening 5, but Punk not making it
past the next 5 bothered me. All his early momentum was squandered for the second ppv in a row. The rest of the match seemed lacking something big.
I dug the RAW match, even though it ended with Cena/HHH. I was surprised HHH tapped. I don't think Cena/Batista needs to be for the title.
This is the 3rd year in a row Cena is going to be getting a title shot. In the era of diluted, and multiple titles, that may seem like nothing major,
but it's never been done before.
My brother flipped out when HBK interrupted and has already called this the most predictable WrestleMania of all time in terms of matches, and
winners, and one of the worst if MITB isn't on the card. I don't feel that strongly about it, but I wonder what some of you guys think?
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LuckyLopez
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He's not wrong, is he? I mean I couldn't get excited for HBK tonight because we basically all spent the match waiting for the end that we
all knew would happen for weeks.
Predictable can deliver, especially from the smarky/workrate sense, but the show definitely seems to lack much in the way of emotion and surprise
factor to me.
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Chris Is Good517
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quote:
Originally posted by cardscott5
I don't think Cena/Batista needs to be for the title.
It didn't, that's the thing! I know it only took the Bret-Vince thing one week to turn from pleasant distraction into three ring
clusterfuck with the car and whatnot, but that angle still had plenty of heat to carry the Batista-Cena match. I really have no idea why somebody
decided it needed to be for the title. On the other hand I'd rather have Cena chasing than defending, but I'm sick of both of those guys
and have no desire to see the title on either of them. At least Sheamus got to keep a shred of credibility, being one of the guys to start the match
and being the second to last eliminated, although honestly I don't know why he couldn't have been the last eliminated if he was going to
lose anyway. It's not like Triple H needs to be protected at this point. Whatever.
PPV sounded like a steaming pile of nothing. WWE needs to learn that McCool and Layla are not going to replicate the success of the Beautiful People
and ease up on shoving them down everyone's throats. At least Jericho gets another title reign, even if it looks destined to be short.
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cardscott5
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quote:
Originally posted by Chris Is Good517
I really have no idea why somebody decided it needed to be for the title.
I thought about it, and I've reached the conclusion that they gave the title to Bats because the match is going to be the main event. With Bret
and Vince and now the title, there is no way it can't be. With Vince getting his from Bret, and Cena winning the gold, it's going to be an
over the top Wrestlemania moment pushed down our throats for years.
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the goon
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While the match ups have ended up like most were predicting, I'm completely fine with all of them so far (as opposed to how I was with Triple
H/Orton and, to a lesser extent, Cena/Edge/Show last year). Kind of like I said in my last post, this is an instance where I'm okay with the WWE
going the safe and predictable route, as I really wanted Edge/Jericho and Taker/Michaels.
And I can certainly see the argument for Cena/Batista not needing the title, but I'm okay with it. For one, they've never done a title
match together, so this isn't like Triple H/Orton last year, where we've already seen it a million times (as far as I can recall,
they've wrestled each other once). And while it ain't exactly Rock/Austin, it's probably about the closest thing the WWE has
to it in this era, so I'm okay with them getting to do a WWE title program for WrestleMania. Also, Taker/Michaels will fit the bill as the "big
match that doesn't involve a title" for WrestleMania XXVI.
Now, if Vince and Bret Hart stay involved in this feud (and don't do their own feud/match), I could see the argument for it being overkill. But
then again, we did get the fatal fourway with a McMahon in every corner at WrestleMania 2000, so this would at least be less than that.
And the more I think about it, the more I could still see Triple H/Sheamus at WrestleMania, though it would really surprise me if Triple H took that
big of a step down the card. Since Triple H eliminated Sheamus from the match tonight, all it would take is Sheamus being pissed off and one beatdown
on Triple on RAW, and we have a feud.
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G-B
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I'm 100% against Cena-Batista involving the title. This WM was shaping up to be a very strong card outside of the title matches.
Cena-Batista (with Bret/Vince)
Punk-Rey (Hair v. Mask)
Taker-HBK II
Orton-Dibiase (with something doing for Rhodes)
ShowMiz tag title defense
MITB (hopefully)
The first three are fine by themselves, with tons of heat for all each. The other three are great for the undercard. HHH-Sheamus is much better with
the WWE title involved, and Edge-Jericho would go on last.
Now, if we get HHH-Sheamus, we'll care even less. And the WWE title will seem like an afterthought in a match that will likely go on last
between Cena & Batista.
Unless Vince was pissed that so many people had the WM card pegged in right before the Rumble, and is dicking around just to have the same result.
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G-B
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My bad on the double post/edit/quote. Which almost happened twice.
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hail2thesteve
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I thought the PPV overall was pretty enjoyable although the constant updates of the Team USA-Canada hockey game garnered more suspense amongst our
group. The ending of both Elimination Chambers felt flat, especially Raw where everyone was just seemingly eliminated in a matter of minutes. At
least we could've had a few minutes of Cena-Triple H reversing each other's finishers and Sheamus looking stronger.
I do agree that Punk needed to be in the Chamber match longer and the fact that he still continues to garner despite always getting beaten is a
testament to the strength of his character and mic skills. As someone else mentioned in another thread, he's approaching Jericho-esque levels
of maintaining his heat even though he always loses.
Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere in the thread but Taker apparently got set on fire by his pyro during his entrance, which is why he was
sweating head to toe while just hanging out in the pod and also why some of skin was charred pink. What a trooper.
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the goon
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On the subject of the potential Triple H/Sheamus match, I think the fact that it will be much more of a throwaway match without the WWE title is
balanced out by the fact that we won't have to see Triple H in his ninth WrestleMania title match since 2000 (you'd have to go back to
WrestleMania X-7 for the last time Triple H appeared on a WrestleMania card but not in a title match).
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cardscott5
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quote:
Originally posted by hail2thesteve
Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere in the thread but Taker apparently got set on fire by his pyro during his entrance, which is why he was
sweating head to toe while just hanging out in the pod and also why some of skin was charred pink. What a trooper.
I thought something was up the way he threw off his coat and ran down the ramp. I joked that his coat must have caught on fire, and apparently it did.
Off what Goon said, if it's HHH Sheamus, it will be the first WM since 15 where HHH wasn't even in the semi-main event. 17 was where he
lost to Taker if you didn't know. It would be bizarre to see HHH fighting in the first hour or so
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the goon
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Here are two live accounts (crappy grammar and all) I found about the Taker incident, from Wrestlezone and 411:
"I was at the Chamber PPV tonight. Just got home and read your results to see if there was any mention of the horrifying incident that happened.
In your notes, it was said that Undertaker "runs to the ring in a hurry." I'm assuming it didn't make the air, but the Undertaker indeed
ran to the ring...because the wall of fire that goes off when he's way down the aisle, went off as he was standing at the top of the ramp. It
literally engulfed him. Fire when up through his trenchcoat and all the way up. He shook around and dashed forward to get away from the source, threw
off his jacket, and luckily, the fire didn't catch anything that was on him. He got in the ring and was absolutely furious.
So yeah, Taker ran to the ring because he was on fire. But I tell ya what, he may actually be a Deadman, or have special powers because for all
intents and purposes, he should have been burned and burned badly. My theory is that the jacket ventilated him enough to save him. The flames went in
and around him inside of it and when he threw it off, it stopped fairly quickly.
We could have seen a real tragedy, but thankfully, Taker survived."
And the second:
"Undertaker's coat accidentally caught on fire during his entrance. He then ripped off his burning coat. While in his pod referee constantly
gave him bottled waters to pour down his arm. Not sure if this was seen on camera.
After it went the PPV went off air he stormed up the ramp staring directly at the pyrotechnic area, stopped at the top of the stage (right next to the
spot the pyro accidentally burned him) and yelled something at the pyrotechnics and made a threatening gesture before exiting the stage.
Also, when Undertaker left his pod, the door broke and couldn't be closed back. Referee's constantly tried to close is but was
unsuccessful. It was kinda funny because minutes later, the pod Jericho hid in also got jammed open and couldn't be closed."
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Gobshite
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Wouldn't suprise me if they hold a MitB match and have HHH win it, so that he can main event the new PPV later in the year.
My guess is that Vince got scared that with he and Bret seemingly the "big draw" this year, and TNA moving to Mondays, he has to have a killer WM
line up. Failure at this particular point would rest firmly on his shoulders, and he really doesn't seem to like that.
I guess this is why Bats walked out of his qualifying match?
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Iron Claw
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Any chance of a HBK/Taker/HHH three-way? I don't see HHH being a curtain jerfer at Mania.
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joepet
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Is it just me, or does he Elimination Chamber PPV report on the top page link to the old Royal Rumble report?
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Gobshite
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I was thinking of a HHH/HBK/Taker match too. HHH could get pissed that everyone forgets how close he came to beating Taker, wants the glory...
I don't see HHH jerking the curtain, but if he pulled out a good match out of sheamus mid card, it would have a greater benefit in the long run.
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Chris Is Good517
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Worth mentioning...
quote:
Undertaker suffered burns to his chest as a result of a pyrotechnic malfunction during his entrance when flames reached and burned his jacket as he
made his way ringside for his match at tonight's Elimination Chamber pay-per-view.
Upon catching on fire, he immediately ripped off his coat and sprinted towards the ring. He then doused himself with bottles of water before and
during his scheduled match in the Elimination Chamber.
Company sources indicate Taker was extremely upset about the situation upon returning to the locker room, though officials worked to calm him down.
Not that I'm laughing about what could have been a tragic situation but I am amused that the asshole had to cut his 10 minute entrance down to
less than a minute. But hey, if they want to do Kane vs. Undertaker part 2,319 here's the perfect setup
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TownOfDalem
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quote:
Originally posted by TownOfDalem
John Cena wins the other chamber because a world title is just what the Cena/Hart v Vince/Batista feud needs (sarcasm). And if Sheamus goes to
wrestlemania as champ it would be harder to call him the weakest booked world champion of all time.
There will probably also be something hyping NXT. Maybe the new guys will be shown backstage though it'll probably just be a video package.
Edit: I actually may be getting behind this Cena winning idea. Batista somehow sneaks into the chamber and knocks out Cena's opponent. Cena
gets to be upset that he won the title cheaply and it would make sense for Batista to want Cena to have the title. It would end up retroactively
making Batista's actions the last few weeks make sense.
Not to toot my own horn or anything but I called it. Toot Toot Bitches. There was no way WWE was going to have the main event of Wrestlemania
contain either Jericho or Sheamus as champion. I don't agree with the decision, but it is typical WWE think.
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Chris Is Good517
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Dalem, your av is one of the greatest things I've ever seen. I love it.
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Taker is also lucky he usually soaks his hair before coming out as well. If I was the pyro guy I think I'd have just left right then and walked
home.
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G-B
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I thought about Taker-HBK-HHH as well. And I think it makes perfect sense.
They've been teasing issues with HHH & HBK all throughout HBK's "chase" of Taker. Add than on to the fact that there have been reports
about Taker's health, and it makes perfect sense to go with the three-way.
And I think I'd rather see that than HBK-Taker II anyway--if Taker's really in bad shape. Working together, you know HHH & HBK will pull
out all the stops in a 'Mania match.
I guess that means Sheamus-Kofi on the undercard if there's no MITB?
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